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"Chuck Gould" wrote in message
oups.com... This was in this morning's email. Presented here as an interesting idea, so the specific contact details for additional information or purchase information have been eliminated from this post. In the unlikely event that somebody would be interested in contacting the firm that makes this device, Email me at and I'll send the contact info via that route: ********* Hi Chuck, Have you heard of or covered a great boatig/water safety device called the Safety Turtle? Must-have for any boater with children and/or pets. Advocated by many boating and water safety organizations, such as the Shuswap Houseboating Association, the YMCA and the Canadian Federation of Humane Societies. It is a device that is worn either around the child's wrist or on their lifevest or around the pet's collar or lifevest and sends a wireless signal to a base station (positioned anywhere on the boat) if the child or pet falls overboard. The base station then alarms loudly so that the adults on board know immediately that there is a child/pet that has fallen overboard and can rush to help. I've included further info below and have hi-res images and samples available for consideration. What do you think? Have a great day! Grant Grant Landis Amicus Public Relations I'd use something like that if I had a little kid on the boat. Not for a dog, though. |
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JoeSpareBedroom wrote: I'd use something like that if I had a little kid on the boat. Not for a dog, though. There are a lot of boaters who cruise with dogs and who really pamper them. Empty nesters seem to be the worst. (If it's a bad thing, which it probably is not). I know of several boating couples in their 50's, 60's, and 70's who consider their dog almost as close to heart as one of their own kids, and maybe only a half step behind a grandkid. If they find a market for this thing, don't be surprised if a lot of people hook up their doggy life vests, etc. One of the best attended seminars at the last boat show we had in town here was "How to Cruise with Your Dog". |
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"Chuck Gould" wrote in message
ps.com... JoeSpareBedroom wrote: I'd use something like that if I had a little kid on the boat. Not for a dog, though. There are a lot of boaters who cruise with dogs and who really pamper them. Empty nesters seem to be the worst. (If it's a bad thing, which it probably is not). I know of several boating couples in their 50's, 60's, and 70's who consider their dog almost as close to heart as one of their own kids, and maybe only a half step behind a grandkid. If they find a market for this thing, don't be surprised if a lot of people hook up their doggy life vests, etc. One of the best attended seminars at the last boat show we had in town here was "How to Cruise with Your Dog". Oy. |
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"Chuck Gould" wrote in message oups.com... This was in this morning's email. Presented here as an interesting idea, so the specific contact details for additional information or purchase information have been eliminated from this post. In the unlikely event that somebody would be interested in contacting the firm that makes this device, Email me at and I'll send the contact info via that route: ********* Hi Chuck, snip Grant Chuck, remind me again how this is not SPAM. |
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JimH wrote: "Chuck Gould" wrote in message oups.com... This was in this morning's email. Presented here as an interesting idea, so the specific contact details for additional information or purchase information have been eliminated from this post. In the unlikely event that somebody would be interested in contacting the firm that makes this device, Email me at and I'll send the contact info via that route: ********* Hi Chuck, snip Grant Chuck, remind me again how this is not SPAM. Gladly: 1) I have no financial interest of any kind in the item described. 2) There is no pricing or commercial contact information included, (in fact, it was deleted), merely a description of a new product. 3) I do have contact information available to anybody interested via email- but I didn't post that here to *avoid* falling into a spam category. Spam is a commercial solicitation in a non-commercial venue. If somebody wants the commercial solicitation, I will put them on the track to get it- but it isn't appearing here. 4) There is no personal endorsement or recommendation that anybody actually purchase one of these for any purpose, merely an invitation to discuss whether such a device by this or some other manufacturer with a similar concept might be a useful safety device. It would be tough to discuss whether or not people consider a new device potentially useful as a safety system without at least describing the device. As I have never seen one in person, I forwarded a description that I received. How about you, Jim? Do you take a dog or young kids out with you when you use your boat? What would you think of a system that could sound an alarm the instant one of them fell overboard? I see one use for this, depending on the range of the transmitter, that isn't addressed in the original description. I hate to see it, but it's a common practice for some boaters to put kids as young as 5 or 6 years old in a PFD and then turn them loose to run around the docks in a marina. They are usually goofing off trying to snag a pile perch with a miniature fishing pole or hauling critters up to the dock with a dip net. Sometimes these kids get several slips away from their own boat and there may or may not actually be somebody on deck keeping a constant eye on them. In such a case, knowing that your kindergartner has fallen off the dock at least somewhere nearby would be better than not knowing until the next 10-15 minute interval when the parents put down their martinis and take a visual check. I could probably post something like "Make sure you shred your bills so the local ID thieves don't profit by skimming your garbage", and it would make a nice follow up to the "crooks jotting down numbers on gift cards" post that appeared here recently, but I try to keep the threads I start in the NG related to boating. But I could be wrong. Anybody besides by good friend in Ohio object to the original post as "spam"? I'm not to stubborn to learn from the errors of my ways and if the majority of the NG feels that a description of a new, boating related product is inappropriate in the NG I won't offer that kind of content in the future. |
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Chuck Gould wrote: This was in this morning's email. Presented here as an interesting idea, so the specific contact details for additional information or purchase information have been eliminated from this post. In the unlikely event that somebody would be interested in contacting the firm that makes this device, Email me at and I'll send the contact info via that route: ********* Hi Chuck, snip Grant Grant Landis How long has Grant Landis been married to your sister Chuck? SPAM. |
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JimH wrote:
Chuck Gould wrote: This was in this morning's email. Presented here as an interesting idea, so the specific contact details for additional information or purchase information have been eliminated from this post. In the unlikely event that somebody would be interested in contacting the firm that makes this device, Email me at and I'll send the contact info via that route: ********* Hi Chuck, snip Grant Grant Landis How long has Grant Landis been married to your sister Chuck? SPAM. who appointed you sheriff of this newsgroup. giddy up |
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On 30 Nov 2006 12:07:41 -0800, "Chuck Gould"
wrote: JimH wrote: "Chuck Gould" wrote in message oups.com... This was in this morning's email. Presented here as an interesting idea, so the specific contact details for additional information or purchase information have been eliminated from this post. In the unlikely event that somebody would be interested in contacting the firm that makes this device, Email me at and I'll send the contact info via that route: ********* Hi Chuck, snip Grant Chuck, remind me again how this is not SPAM. Gladly: 1) I have no financial interest of any kind in the item described. 2) There is no pricing or commercial contact information included, (in fact, it was deleted), merely a description of a new product. 3) I do have contact information available to anybody interested via email- but I didn't post that here to *avoid* falling into a spam category. Spam is a commercial solicitation in a non-commercial venue. If somebody wants the commercial solicitation, I will put them on the track to get it- but it isn't appearing here. 4) There is no personal endorsement or recommendation that anybody actually purchase one of these for any purpose, merely an invitation to discuss whether such a device by this or some other manufacturer with a similar concept might be a useful safety device. It would be tough to discuss whether or not people consider a new device potentially useful as a safety system without at least describing the device. As I have never seen one in person, I forwarded a description that I received. How about you, Jim? Do you take a dog or young kids out with you when you use your boat? What would you think of a system that could sound an alarm the instant one of them fell overboard? I see one use for this, depending on the range of the transmitter, that isn't addressed in the original description. I hate to see it, but it's a common practice for some boaters to put kids as young as 5 or 6 years old in a PFD and then turn them loose to run around the docks in a marina. They are usually goofing off trying to snag a pile perch with a miniature fishing pole or hauling critters up to the dock with a dip net. Sometimes these kids get several slips away from their own boat and there may or may not actually be somebody on deck keeping a constant eye on them. In such a case, knowing that your kindergartner has fallen off the dock at least somewhere nearby would be better than not knowing until the next 10-15 minute interval when the parents put down their martinis and take a visual check. I could probably post something like "Make sure you shred your bills so the local ID thieves don't profit by skimming your garbage", and it would make a nice follow up to the "crooks jotting down numbers on gift cards" post that appeared here recently, but I try to keep the threads I start in the NG related to boating. But I could be wrong. Anybody besides by good friend in Ohio object to the original post as "spam"? I'm not to stubborn to learn from the errors of my ways and if the majority of the NG feels that a description of a new, boating related product is inappropriate in the NG I won't offer that kind of content in the future. FWIW, I took it as a purely informative post about a new product. Your "good friend in Ohio" is trying hard to become the group a-hole again. |
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On Thu, 30 Nov 2006 15:30:36 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III"
wrote: JimH wrote: Chuck Gould wrote: This was in this morning's email. Presented here as an interesting idea, so the specific contact details for additional information or purchase information have been eliminated from this post. In the unlikely event that somebody would be interested in contacting the firm that makes this device, Email me at and I'll send the contact info via that route: ********* Hi Chuck, snip Grant Grant Landis How long has Grant Landis been married to your sister Chuck? SPAM. who appointed you sheriff of this newsgroup. giddy up LOL! -- John H *Have a great Christmas and a spectacular New Year!* |
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"Chuck Gould" wrote in message ps.com... JimH wrote: "Chuck Gould" wrote in message oups.com... This was in this morning's email. Presented here as an interesting idea, so the specific contact details for additional information or purchase information have been eliminated from this post. In the unlikely event that somebody would be interested in contacting the firm that makes this device, Email me at and I'll send the contact info via that route: ********* Hi Chuck, snip Grant Chuck, remind me again how this is not SPAM. Gladly: 1) I have no financial interest of any kind in the item described. 2) There is no pricing or commercial contact information included, (in fact, it was deleted), merely a description of a new product. 3) I do have contact information available to anybody interested via email- but I didn't post that here to *avoid* falling into a spam category. Spam is a commercial solicitation in a non-commercial venue. If somebody wants the commercial solicitation, I will put them on the track to get it- but it isn't appearing here. 4) There is no personal endorsement or recommendation that anybody actually purchase one of these for any purpose, merely an invitation to discuss whether such a device by this or some other manufacturer with a similar concept might be a useful safety device. 1. You mentioned the manufacturer 2. The manufacturer mentioned the specific product by name 3. You offered to act as a distributor for the manufacturer If it smells like a duck and quacks like a duck........... What you should have said: ====================== "I received an email from my brother in law........ummm....I mean a manufacturer of a safety product for boaters and would like your opinions on it. The company manufactures a device that is worn either around the child's wrist or on their lifevest or around the pet's collar or lifevest and sends a wireless signal to a base station (positioned anywhere on the boat) if the child or pet falls overboard. The base station then alarms loudly so that the adults on board know immediately that there is a child/pet that has fallen overboard and can rush to help." What do you think? ============================ Personally I think that anyone who leaves a child unsupervised around water, even for a minute, is insane. |
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JimH wrote:
"Chuck Gould" wrote in message ps.com... JimH wrote: "Chuck Gould" wrote in message oups.com... This was in this morning's email. Presented here as an interesting idea, so the specific contact details for additional information or purchase information have been eliminated from this post. In the unlikely event that somebody would be interested in contacting the firm that makes this device, Email me at and I'll send the contact info via that route: ********* Hi Chuck, snip Grant Chuck, remind me again how this is not SPAM. Gladly: 1) I have no financial interest of any kind in the item described. 2) There is no pricing or commercial contact information included, (in fact, it was deleted), merely a description of a new product. 3) I do have contact information available to anybody interested via email- but I didn't post that here to *avoid* falling into a spam category. Spam is a commercial solicitation in a non-commercial venue. If somebody wants the commercial solicitation, I will put them on the track to get it- but it isn't appearing here. 4) There is no personal endorsement or recommendation that anybody actually purchase one of these for any purpose, merely an invitation to discuss whether such a device by this or some other manufacturer with a similar concept might be a useful safety device. 1. You mentioned the manufacturer 2. The manufacturer mentioned the specific product by name 3. You offered to act as a distributor for the manufacturer If it smells like a duck and quacks like a duck........... What you should have said: ====================== "I received an email from my brother in law........ummm....I mean a manufacturer of a safety product for boaters and would like your opinions on it. The company manufactures a device that is worn either around the child's wrist or on their lifevest or around the pet's collar or lifevest and sends a wireless signal to a base station (positioned anywhere on the boat) if the child or pet falls overboard. The base station then alarms loudly so that the adults on board know immediately that there is a child/pet that has fallen overboard and can rush to help." What do you think? ============================ Personally I think that anyone who leaves a child unsupervised around water, even for a minute, is insane. JimH, I wish you would stop being the NG net nanny, no one likes that. Your netcopping has repeated the same post many times more than Chuck did. |
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JohnH wrote: On 30 Nov 2006 12:07:41 -0800, "Chuck Gould" wrote: Your "good friend in Ohio" is trying hard to become the group a-hole again. See how posting spam results in some members here having to start with the name calling Chuck? Sort of like political threads.......eh? BTW: JohnH, no one will take your title away from you. Don't sweat it guy! |
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Chuck,
I missed this post the first time, so I am glad it was repeated. I would like to hear more about the device. Is it available today? What price is the safety alarm? Is there a web page I might be able to see the product? |
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" JimH" not telling you @ pffftt.com wrote in message
. .. "Chuck Gould" wrote in message oups.com... This was in this morning's email. Presented here as an interesting idea, so the specific contact details for additional information or purchase information have been eliminated from this post. In the unlikely event that somebody would be interested in contacting the firm that makes this device, Email me at and I'll send the contact info via that route: ********* Hi Chuck, snip Grant Chuck, remind me again how this is not SPAM. Chuck works for a magazine. Magazines have new product pages which are nothing but a brief mention of thing that might be interesting to readers. |
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"Chuck Gould" wrote in message ps.com... JoeSpareBedroom wrote: I'd use something like that if I had a little kid on the boat. Not for a dog, though. There are a lot of boaters who cruise with dogs and who really pamper them. Empty nesters seem to be the worst. (If it's a bad thing, which it probably is not). I know of several boating couples in their 50's, 60's, and 70's who consider their dog almost as close to heart as one of their own kids, and maybe only a half step behind a grandkid. If they find a market for this thing, don't be surprised if a lot of people hook up their doggy life vests, etc. One of the best attended seminars at the last boat show we had in town here was "How to Cruise with Your Dog". They sell them for swimming pool safety. When the God Babies were out for daughters wedding this summer, I looked at them, but went for a pool alarm instead. The kid may not be wearing the bracelet when she went outside. Might be great for a boat. |
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" JimH" not telling you @ pffftt.com wrote in message . .. "Chuck Gould" wrote in message oups.com... This was in this morning's email. Presented here as an interesting idea, so the specific contact details for additional information or purchase information have been eliminated from this post. In the unlikely event that somebody would be interested in contacting the firm that makes this device, Email me at and I'll send the contact info via that route: ********* Hi Chuck, snip Grant Chuck, remind me again how this is not SPAM. Sheriff, get outa town. Is boating related, and you can go to any pool supply store and see one. There are cases of kids falling off boats and not being noticed as missing for a time. |
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JoeSpareBedroom wrote: " JimH" not telling you @ pffftt.com wrote in message . .. "Chuck Gould" wrote in message oups.com... This was in this morning's email. Presented here as an interesting idea, so the specific contact details for additional information or purchase information have been eliminated from this post. In the unlikely event that somebody would be interested in contacting the firm that makes this device, Email me at and I'll send the contact info via that route: ********* Hi Chuck, snip Grant Chuck, remind me again how this is not SPAM. Chuck works for a magazine. Magazines have new product pages which are nothing but a brief mention of thing that might be interesting to readers. I understand. I would have had no problem with Chucks post if he did not copy an email he received from a manufacturer specifically mentioning their products name and with Chuck offering to act as middleman to facilitate the sale of the stuff. As it stood his post was pure Spam and as Head Sheriff of the NG he should have know that and modified his post as I suggested. I am just reminding him of the rules so he learns to walk the walk. It is interesting to see his deputies come to his rescue though. (not you Doug). ;-) |
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Calif Bill wrote: " JimH" not telling you @ pffftt.com wrote in message . .. "Chuck Gould" wrote in message oups.com... This was in this morning's email. Presented here as an interesting idea, so the specific contact details for additional information or purchase information have been eliminated from this post. In the unlikely event that somebody would be interested in contacting the firm that makes this device, Email me at and I'll send the contact info via that route: ********* Hi Chuck, snip Grant Chuck, remind me again how this is not SPAM. Sheriff, get outa town. Is boating related, and you can go to any pool supply store and see one. There are cases of kids falling off boats and not being noticed as missing for a time. I understand that. And the parents of those dead kids are idiots for leaving their children unattended...even for a few seconds. |
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"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message ... On Thu, 30 Nov 2006 14:37:01 -0500, " JimH" not telling you @ pffftt.com wrote: "Chuck Gould" wrote in message groups.com... This was in this morning's email. Presented here as an interesting idea, so the specific contact details for additional information or purchase information have been eliminated from this post. In the unlikely event that somebody would be interested in contacting the firm that makes this device, Email me at and I'll send the contact info via that route: Chuck, remind me again how this is not SPAM. Allow me Chuck. It pertains to me because I boat with my dogs and occasionally have children aboard not to mention my nieces. If I am distracted for some reason, it would be an additional piece of safety alert that could be very important in certain situations. Others may have that interest also and I can think of several other applications in which this could be very useful. According to the replies I have been overwhelmingly overruled. Fair enough. My apologies for the Spam allegations Chuck. |
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"JimH" wrote in message
oups.com... JoeSpareBedroom wrote: " JimH" not telling you @ pffftt.com wrote in message . .. "Chuck Gould" wrote in message oups.com... This was in this morning's email. Presented here as an interesting idea, so the specific contact details for additional information or purchase information have been eliminated from this post. In the unlikely event that somebody would be interested in contacting the firm that makes this device, Email me at and I'll send the contact info via that route: ********* Hi Chuck, snip Grant Chuck, remind me again how this is not SPAM. Chuck works for a magazine. Magazines have new product pages which are nothing but a brief mention of thing that might be interesting to readers. I understand. I would have had no problem with Chucks post if he did not copy an email he received from a manufacturer specifically mentioning their products name and with Chuck offering to act as middleman to facilitate the sale of the stuff. As it stood his post was pure Spam and as Head Sheriff of the NG he should have know that and modified his post as I suggested. I am just reminding him of the rules so he learns to walk the walk. It is interesting to see his deputies come to his rescue though. (not you Doug). ;-) Maybe he's trying to decide whether to give it space in the magazine. But, that doesn't matter. If you don't like certain messages, DON'T ****IN' LOOK AT THEM, PUSS WAD. |
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Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On 30 Nov 2006 10:24:57 -0800, "Chuck Gould" wrote: This was in this morning's email. Presented here as an interesting idea, so the specific contact details for additional information or purchase information have been eliminated from this post. In the unlikely event that somebody would be interested in contacting the firm that makes this device, Email me at and I'll send the contact info via that route: Please - usual address info (at) swsports - dot - org. Tom, when you get the info, can you repost it here. |
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On Thu, 30 Nov 2006 21:27:20 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote: "JimH" wrote in message roups.com... JoeSpareBedroom wrote: " JimH" not telling you @ pffftt.com wrote in message . .. "Chuck Gould" wrote in message oups.com... This was in this morning's email. Presented here as an interesting idea, so the specific contact details for additional information or purchase information have been eliminated from this post. In the unlikely event that somebody would be interested in contacting the firm that makes this device, Email me at and I'll send the contact info via that route: ********* Hi Chuck, snip Grant Chuck, remind me again how this is not SPAM. Chuck works for a magazine. Magazines have new product pages which are nothing but a brief mention of thing that might be interesting to readers. I understand. I would have had no problem with Chucks post if he did not copy an email he received from a manufacturer specifically mentioning their products name and with Chuck offering to act as middleman to facilitate the sale of the stuff. As it stood his post was pure Spam and as Head Sheriff of the NG he should have know that and modified his post as I suggested. I am just reminding him of the rules so he learns to walk the walk. It is interesting to see his deputies come to his rescue though. (not you Doug). ;-) Maybe he's trying to decide whether to give it space in the magazine. But, that doesn't matter. If you don't like certain messages, DON'T ****IN' LOOK AT THEM, PUSS WAD. Be nice. He's trying hard to be liked. -- John H *Have a great Christmas and a spectacular New Year!* |
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"JohnH" wrote in message
... On Thu, 30 Nov 2006 21:27:20 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote: "JimH" wrote in message groups.com... JoeSpareBedroom wrote: " JimH" not telling you @ pffftt.com wrote in message . .. "Chuck Gould" wrote in message oups.com... This was in this morning's email. Presented here as an interesting idea, so the specific contact details for additional information or purchase information have been eliminated from this post. In the unlikely event that somebody would be interested in contacting the firm that makes this device, Email me at and I'll send the contact info via that route: ********* Hi Chuck, snip Grant Chuck, remind me again how this is not SPAM. Chuck works for a magazine. Magazines have new product pages which are nothing but a brief mention of thing that might be interesting to readers. I understand. I would have had no problem with Chucks post if he did not copy an email he received from a manufacturer specifically mentioning their products name and with Chuck offering to act as middleman to facilitate the sale of the stuff. As it stood his post was pure Spam and as Head Sheriff of the NG he should have know that and modified his post as I suggested. I am just reminding him of the rules so he learns to walk the walk. It is interesting to see his deputies come to his rescue though. (not you Doug). ;-) Maybe he's trying to decide whether to give it space in the magazine. But, that doesn't matter. If you don't like certain messages, DON'T ****IN' LOOK AT THEM, PUSS WAD. Be nice. He's trying hard to be liked. It's pathetic, John. |
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JoeSpareBedroom wrote: "JohnH" wrote in message ... Maybe he's trying to decide whether to give it space in the magazine. But, that doesn't matter. If you don't like certain messages, DON'T ****IN' LOOK AT THEM, PUSS WAD. Be nice. He's trying hard to be liked. It's pathetic, John. Remind me again.........how old did you guys say you are? |
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"JimH" wrote in message
ups.com... JoeSpareBedroom wrote: "JohnH" wrote in message ... Maybe he's trying to decide whether to give it space in the magazine. But, that doesn't matter. If you don't like certain messages, DON'T ****IN' LOOK AT THEM, PUSS WAD. Be nice. He's trying hard to be liked. It's pathetic, John. Remind me again.........how old did you guys say you are? Genius knows no age, puss wad. |
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"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message ... On Thu, 30 Nov 2006 17:13:06 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III" wrote: Short Wave Sportfishing wrote: On 30 Nov 2006 10:24:57 -0800, "Chuck Gould" wrote: This was in this morning's email. Presented here as an interesting idea, so the specific contact details for additional information or purchase information have been eliminated from this post. In the unlikely event that somebody would be interested in contacting the firm that makes this device, Email me at and I'll send the contact info via that route: Please - usual address info (at) swsports - dot - org. Tom, when you get the info, can you repost it here. ROTFL!!! Hey - your wish is my command. :) OK......OK..........I surrender. ;-) |
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"JimH" wrote in message oups.com... I understand. I would have had no problem with Chucks post... You're an idiot. And wrong. And boring. |
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On Thu, 30 Nov 2006 18:01:35 -0500, "jabadoodle"
wrote: "JimH" wrote in message roups.com... I understand. I would have had no problem with Chucks post... You're an idiot. And wrong. And boring. Stay tuned. Soon he'll probably post another apology. He'll be up to about #32 then. -- John H *Have a great Christmas and a spectacular New Year!* |
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On Thu, 30 Nov 2006 21:22:41 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote: I can think of several other applications in which this could be very useful. Absolutely. Without naming any names or getting to specific, I can think of a few adults who could/would benefit from such a device. Anybody else ever retrieved a party animal at dockside? |
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jabadoodle wrote:
"JimH" wrote in message oups.com... I understand. I would have had no problem with Chucks post... You're an idiot. And wrong. And boring. I haven't seen you here before, but from your summation, it appears you have been reading rec.boats. |
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JimH wrote: JoeSpareBedroom wrote: " JimH" not telling you @ pffftt.com wrote in message . .. "Chuck Gould" wrote in message oups.com... This was in this morning's email. Presented here as an interesting idea, so the specific contact details for additional information or purchase information have been eliminated from this post. In the unlikely event that somebody would be interested in contacting the firm that makes this device, Email me at and I'll send the contact info via that route: ********* Hi Chuck, snip Grant Chuck, remind me again how this is not SPAM. Chuck works for a magazine. Magazines have new product pages which are nothing but a brief mention of thing that might be interesting to readers. I understand. I would have had no problem with Chucks post if he did not copy an email he received from a manufacturer specifically mentioning their products name and with Chuck offering to act as middleman to facilitate the sale of the stuff. ?????????????? I offered to pass along the website, etc, that I deleted from the original product description. I have no reason to "facilitate the sale" of this product. No skin off my nose one way or the other if everybody buys one, nobody buys one, etc. |
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JimH wrote: According to the replies I have been overwhelmingly overruled. Fair enough. My apologies for the Spam allegations Chuck. Accepted. No big deal. |
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JimH wrote:
"Chuck Gould" wrote in message ps.com... JimH wrote: "Chuck Gould" wrote in message oups.com... This was in this morning's email. Presented here as an interesting idea, so the specific contact details for additional information or purchase information have been eliminated from this post. In the unlikely event that somebody would be interested in contacting the firm that makes this device, Email me at and I'll send the contact info via that route: ********* Hi Chuck, snip Grant Chuck, remind me again how this is not SPAM. Gladly: 1) I have no financial interest of any kind in the item described. 2) There is no pricing or commercial contact information included, (in fact, it was deleted), merely a description of a new product. 3) I do have contact information available to anybody interested via email- but I didn't post that here to *avoid* falling into a spam category. Spam is a commercial solicitation in a non-commercial venue. If somebody wants the commercial solicitation, I will put them on the track to get it- but it isn't appearing here. 4) There is no personal endorsement or recommendation that anybody actually purchase one of these for any purpose, merely an invitation to discuss whether such a device by this or some other manufacturer with a similar concept might be a useful safety device. 1. You mentioned the manufacturer 2. The manufacturer mentioned the specific product by name 3. You offered to act as a distributor for the manufacturer If it smells like a duck and quacks like a duck........... What you should have said: ====================== "I received an email from my brother in law........ummm....I mean a manufacturer of a safety product for boaters and would like your opinions on it. The company manufactures a device that is worn either around the child's wrist or on their lifevest or around the pet's collar or lifevest and sends a wireless signal to a base station (positioned anywhere on the boat) if the child or pet falls overboard. The base station then alarms loudly so that the adults on board know immediately that there is a child/pet that has fallen overboard and can rush to help." What do you think? ============================ Personally I think that anyone who leaves a child unsupervised around water, even for a minute, is insane. Get a life. |
Useful safety concept?
Bert Robbins wrote:
JimH wrote: "Chuck Gould" wrote in message ps.com... JimH wrote: "Chuck Gould" wrote in message oups.com... This was in this morning's email. Presented here as an interesting idea, so the specific contact details for additional information or purchase information have been eliminated from this post. In the unlikely event that somebody would be interested in contacting the firm that makes this device, Email me at and I'll send the contact info via that route: ********* Hi Chuck, snip Grant Chuck, remind me again how this is not SPAM. Gladly: 1) I have no financial interest of any kind in the item described. 2) There is no pricing or commercial contact information included, (in fact, it was deleted), merely a description of a new product. 3) I do have contact information available to anybody interested via email- but I didn't post that here to *avoid* falling into a spam category. Spam is a commercial solicitation in a non-commercial venue. If somebody wants the commercial solicitation, I will put them on the track to get it- but it isn't appearing here. 4) There is no personal endorsement or recommendation that anybody actually purchase one of these for any purpose, merely an invitation to discuss whether such a device by this or some other manufacturer with a similar concept might be a useful safety device. 1. You mentioned the manufacturer 2. The manufacturer mentioned the specific product by name 3. You offered to act as a distributor for the manufacturer If it smells like a duck and quacks like a duck........... What you should have said: ====================== "I received an email from my brother in law........ummm....I mean a manufacturer of a safety product for boaters and would like your opinions on it. The company manufactures a device that is worn either around the child's wrist or on their lifevest or around the pet's collar or lifevest and sends a wireless signal to a base station (positioned anywhere on the boat) if the child or pet falls overboard. The base station then alarms loudly so that the adults on board know immediately that there is a child/pet that has fallen overboard and can rush to help." What do you think? ============================ Personally I think that anyone who leaves a child unsupervised around water, even for a minute, is insane. Get a life. These words of wisdom comes from someone who didn't replace his impeller on a used boat, that no one knew how long it had been since the impeller was changed. Then was surprised when the impeller broke and the engine overheated. Based upon last years season of boating, JimH should make everyone who steps aboard his boat use one of these. Heck, he really should install one on his boat. |
Useful safety concept?
I couldn't quite figure out your cryptic reference to your email address. Since Reggie has also expressed an interest in the additional contact information, I'll go ahead and list it here. Quote: Safety Turtle (www.safetyturtle.com) The Safety Turtle Wireless Alarm is an ingenious combination of wireless signal-outfitted wristbands/collarbands and a wireless base station receiver that sounds an alarm the instant a child or pet falls or ventures into water. The base station can be positioned anywhere between 200 and 1500 feet away from the water(depending on model desired). Safety Turtle retails for $235 and can be purchased online at safetyturtle.com or at retail stores throughout the U.S and Canada. So there ya go. I don't know anything more about this than what we have all read here, but for those interested in additional investigation that would be the starting point. |
Useful safety concept?
"Reginald P. Smithers III" wrote in message ... Chuck, I missed this post the first time, so I am glad it was repeated. I would like to hear more about the device. Is it available today? What price is the safety alarm? Is there a web page I might be able to see the product? http://www.smarthome.com/3220B.html I have seen it in the Leslie's Pool store also. |
Useful safety concept?
"JimH" wrote in message ups.com... Calif Bill wrote: " JimH" not telling you @ pffftt.com wrote in message . .. "Chuck Gould" wrote in message oups.com... This was in this morning's email. Presented here as an interesting idea, so the specific contact details for additional information or purchase information have been eliminated from this post. In the unlikely event that somebody would be interested in contacting the firm that makes this device, Email me at and I'll send the contact info via that route: ********* Hi Chuck, snip Grant Chuck, remind me again how this is not SPAM. Sheriff, get outa town. Is boating related, and you can go to any pool supply store and see one. There are cases of kids falling off boats and not being noticed as missing for a time. I understand that. And the parents of those dead kids are idiots for leaving their children unattended...even for a few seconds. And you were never inattentive to your kids? My children went to Drown Proofing class as early as was possible. The were in diapers, and we had a house with a pool several years before kids. We had oldest crawl out the front door and down the street and around the corner. They are fast. We lived on a court off a dead end street and she did stay on the sidewalk. Yes I am a bad parent. Beat you to it. Also let my kids drive the dune buggy when they were about 7 years old on private land. Slow and first gear only. |
Useful safety concept?
"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message ... On Thu, 30 Nov 2006 17:13:06 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III" wrote: Short Wave Sportfishing wrote: On 30 Nov 2006 10:24:57 -0800, "Chuck Gould" wrote: This was in this morning's email. Presented here as an interesting idea, so the specific contact details for additional information or purchase information have been eliminated from this post. In the unlikely event that somebody would be interested in contacting the firm that makes this device, Email me at and I'll send the contact info via that route: Please - usual address info (at) swsports - dot - org. Tom, when you get the info, can you repost it here. ROTFL!!! Hey - your wish is my command. :) http://www.smarthome.com/3220B.html http://babyproducts.about.com/od/rec...fetyturtle.htm |
Useful safety concept?
"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message ... On Thu, 30 Nov 2006 18:16:27 -0500, Wayne.B wrote: On Thu, 30 Nov 2006 21:22:41 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing wrote: I can think of several other applications in which this could be very useful. Absolutely. Without naming any names or getting to specific, I can think of a few adults who could/would benefit from such a device. Anybody else ever retrieved a party animal at dockside? LOL!! More than once. Of course my favorite was a guy I took striper fishing off Martha's at SW Ledge. Fighting a large striper walked right off the bow of the Ranger. It was really funny. My favorite, was I was about 9 and we came back from a day of salmon fishing on a friends 63'er. Bill Rodgers, a small guy is getting off the boat with a case of beer in one arm and an open beer in the other. Slips and goes between the boat and dock, Shortly came up and only lost the open beer. Over 50 years ago and still laugh about it. |
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