jabadoodle wrote:
"JimH" wrote in message
oups.com...

I understand. I would have had no problem with Chucks post...

You're an idiot. And wrong. And boring.




I haven't seen you here before, but from your summation, it appears you
have been reading rec.boats.

JimH wrote:
JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
" JimH" not telling you @ pffftt.com wrote in message
. ..

"Chuck Gould" wrote in message
oups.com...
This was in this morning's email.

Presented here as an interesting idea, so the specific contact details
for additional information or purchase information have been eliminated
from this post. In the unlikely event that somebody would be interested
in contacting the firm that makes this device, Email me at

and I'll send the contact info via that route:

*********

Hi Chuck,
snip

Grant


Chuck, remind me again how this is not SPAM.

Chuck works for a magazine. Magazines have new product pages which are
nothing but a brief mention of thing that might be interesting to readers.

I understand. I would have had no problem with Chucks post if he did
not copy an email he received from a manufacturer specifically
mentioning their products name and with Chuck offering to act as
middleman to facilitate the sale of the stuff.


??????????????

I offered to pass along the website, etc, that I deleted from the
original product description.
I have no reason to "facilitate the sale" of this product. No skin off
my nose one way or the other if everybody buys one, nobody buys one,
etc.

JimH wrote:



According to the replies I have been overwhelmingly overruled.

Fair enough.

My apologies for the Spam allegations Chuck.

Accepted. No big deal.

JimH wrote:
"Chuck Gould" wrote in message
ps.com...
JimH wrote:
"Chuck Gould" wrote in message
oups.com...
This was in this morning's email.

Presented here as an interesting idea, so the specific contact details
for additional information or purchase information have been eliminated
from this post. In the unlikely event that somebody would be interested
in contacting the firm that makes this device, Email me at

and I'll send the contact info via that route:

*********

Hi Chuck,
snip
Grant

Chuck, remind me again how this is not SPAM.
Gladly:

1) I have no financial interest of any kind in the item described.
2) There is no pricing or commercial contact information included, (in
fact, it was deleted), merely a description of a new product.
3) I do have contact information available to anybody interested via
email- but I didn't post that here to *avoid* falling into a spam
category. Spam is a commercial solicitation in a non-commercial venue.
If somebody wants the commercial solicitation, I will put them on the
track to get it- but it isn't appearing here.
4) There is no personal endorsement or recommendation that anybody
actually purchase one of these for any purpose, merely an invitation to
discuss whether such a device by this or some other manufacturer with a
similar concept might be a useful safety device.


1. You mentioned the manufacturer
2. The manufacturer mentioned the specific product by name
3. You offered to act as a distributor for the manufacturer

If it smells like a duck and quacks like a duck...........

What you should have said:

======================
"I received an email from my brother in law........ummm....I mean a
manufacturer of a safety product for boaters and would like your opinions on
it.

The company manufactures a device that is worn either around the child's
wrist or on their lifevest or around the pet's collar or lifevest and sends
a wireless signal to a base station (positioned anywhere on the boat) if the
child or pet falls overboard. The base station then alarms loudly so that
the adults on board know immediately
that there is a child/pet that has fallen overboard and can rush to help."

What do you think?

============================

Personally I think that anyone who leaves a child unsupervised around water,
even for a minute, is insane.



Get a life.

Bert Robbins wrote:
JimH wrote:
"Chuck Gould" wrote in message
ps.com...
JimH wrote:
"Chuck Gould" wrote in message
oups.com...
This was in this morning's email.

Presented here as an interesting idea, so the specific contact details
for additional information or purchase information have been
eliminated
from this post. In the unlikely event that somebody would be
interested
in contacting the firm that makes this device, Email me at

and I'll send the contact info via that route:

*********

Hi Chuck,
snip
Grant

Chuck, remind me again how this is not SPAM.
Gladly:

1) I have no financial interest of any kind in the item described.
2) There is no pricing or commercial contact information included, (in
fact, it was deleted), merely a description of a new product.
3) I do have contact information available to anybody interested via
email- but I didn't post that here to *avoid* falling into a spam
category. Spam is a commercial solicitation in a non-commercial venue.
If somebody wants the commercial solicitation, I will put them on the
track to get it- but it isn't appearing here.
4) There is no personal endorsement or recommendation that anybody
actually purchase one of these for any purpose, merely an invitation to
discuss whether such a device by this or some other manufacturer with a
similar concept might be a useful safety device.


1. You mentioned the manufacturer
2. The manufacturer mentioned the specific product by name
3. You offered to act as a distributor for the manufacturer

If it smells like a duck and quacks like a duck...........

What you should have said:

======================
"I received an email from my brother in law........ummm....I mean a
manufacturer of a safety product for boaters and would like your
opinions on it.

The company manufactures a device that is worn either around the
child's wrist or on their lifevest or around the pet's collar or
lifevest and sends a wireless signal to a base station (positioned
anywhere on the boat) if the child or pet falls overboard. The base
station then alarms loudly so that the adults on board know immediately
that there is a child/pet that has fallen overboard and can rush to
help."

What do you think?

============================

Personally I think that anyone who leaves a child unsupervised around
water, even for a minute, is insane.


Get a life.

These words of wisdom comes from someone who didn't replace his impeller
on a used boat, that no one knew how long it had been since the impeller
was changed. Then was surprised when the impeller broke and the engine
overheated.

Based upon last years season of boating, JimH should make everyone who
steps aboard his boat use one of these. Heck, he really should install
one on his boat.

I couldn't quite figure out your cryptic reference to your email
address.

Since Reggie has also expressed an interest in the additional contact
information, I'll go ahead and list it here.

Quote:

Safety Turtle (www.safetyturtle.com)

The Safety Turtle Wireless Alarm is an ingenious combination of
wireless signal-outfitted wristbands/collarbands and a wireless base
station receiver that sounds an alarm the instant a child or pet falls
or ventures into water. The base station can be positioned anywhere
between 200 and 1500 feet away from the water(depending on model
desired). Safety Turtle retails for $235 and can be purchased online at
safetyturtle.com or at retail stores throughout the U.S and Canada.

So there ya go. I don't know anything more about this than what we have
all read here, but for those interested in additional investigation
that would be the starting point.

"Reginald P. Smithers III" wrote in message
...
Chuck,
I missed this post the first time, so I am glad it was repeated. I would
like to hear more about the device.

Is it available today?
What price is the safety alarm?
Is there a web page I might be able to see the product?

http://www.smarthome.com/3220B.html

I have seen it in the Leslie's Pool store also.

"JimH" wrote in message
ups.com...

Calif Bill wrote:
" JimH" not telling you @ pffftt.com wrote in message
. ..

"Chuck Gould" wrote in message
oups.com...
This was in this morning's email.

Presented here as an interesting idea, so the specific contact details
for additional information or purchase information have been
eliminated
from this post. In the unlikely event that somebody would be
interested
in contacting the firm that makes this device, Email me at

and I'll send the contact info via that route:

*********

Hi Chuck,
snip

Grant


Chuck, remind me again how this is not SPAM.




Sheriff, get outa town. Is boating related, and you can go to any pool
supply store and see one. There are cases of kids falling off boats and
not
being noticed as missing for a time.

I understand that. And the parents of those dead kids are idiots for
leaving their children unattended...even for a few seconds.


And you were never inattentive to your kids? My children went to Drown
Proofing class as early as was possible. The were in diapers, and we had a
house with a pool several years before kids. We had oldest crawl out the
front door and down the street and around the corner. They are fast. We
lived on a court off a dead end street and she did stay on the sidewalk.
Yes I am a bad parent. Beat you to it. Also let my kids drive the dune
buggy when they were about 7 years old on private land. Slow and first gear
only.

"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 30 Nov 2006 17:13:06 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III"
wrote:

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On 30 Nov 2006 10:24:57 -0800, "Chuck Gould"
wrote:

This was in this morning's email.

Presented here as an interesting idea, so the specific contact details
for additional information or purchase information have been eliminated
from this post. In the unlikely event that somebody would be interested
in contacting the firm that makes this device, Email me at

and I'll send the contact info via that route:

Please - usual address info (at) swsports - dot - org.
Tom,
when you get the info, can you repost it here.

ROTFL!!!

Hey - your wish is my command. :)

http://www.smarthome.com/3220B.html
http://babyproducts.about.com/od/rec...fetyturtle.htm

"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 30 Nov 2006 18:16:27 -0500, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Thu, 30 Nov 2006 21:22:41 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:

I can think of several other
applications in which this could be very useful.

Absolutely. Without naming any names or getting to specific, I can
think of a few adults who could/would benefit from such a device.

Anybody else ever retrieved a party animal at dockside?

LOL!!

More than once.

Of course my favorite was a guy I took striper fishing off Martha's at
SW Ledge.

Fighting a large striper walked right off the bow of the Ranger.

It was really funny.

My favorite, was I was about 9 and we came back from a day of salmon fishing
on a friends 63'er. Bill Rodgers, a small guy is getting off the boat with
a case of beer in one arm and an open beer in the other. Slips and goes
between the boat and dock, Shortly came up and only lost the open beer.
Over 50 years ago and still laugh about it.