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Chuck Gould November 14th 06 06:45 AM

More info on the Charts CD
 
Here is some additional information on the charts CD I mentioned a
couple of weeks ago.
Might make a great stocking stuffer for the holidays.
I looked at the West Coast version, but there is also a CD for the East
Coast.
Considering that it used to be commonplace to spend $15-30 for one
single chart, this really is a deal.

Follows:


We recently fielded a call from a gentleman named Mark Doyle. "Would
you like to know about our product?" he asked. "We have put all the
NOAA charts for the West Coast of the United States, Alaska, and the
Pacific Islands, all onto a single CD, readable in both PC or MAC
format, and compatible with virtually all of the computer navigation
software programs. In addition, the CD contains various government
publications such as Coast Pilots, Light Lists, and Chart #1. Oh, and
we also include trial versions of several PC software systems so that
folks who don't have a nav system on their PC can try out a few of
the industry leaders before making a final decision concerning which
system to purchase."

"Wow!" we replied. "That's a pretty ambitious CD. What does
that sell for? Maybe $150, or $200?"

"No, and that's what's so incredible about this product," said
Mark. "As a lot of people are probably aware, this year the
government began allowing the public to download raster navigation
charts free of charge. That only makes sense because the taxpayers'
money was spent to make these charts to begin with. Unfortunately,
trying to download, catalog, and organize an entire library of charts
can take an incredible amount of time. What's more, to stay up to
date the process really needs to be repeated once per year. Because the
charts are free to begin with, our customers are simply paying for the
downloading and cataloging service. The CD sells for $24.95"

"What? For $24.95 you provide every chart for the W Coast of the US,
Alaska, and the Pacific Islands, along with trial versions of different
software programs, light lists, and Coast Pilots? Heck, send us one!"

When the CD titled "Managing the Waterway" arrived from Mark's
company (semi-local productions LLC) we loaded it up onto the
editor's PC to explore the content. The CD does indeed contain
everything promised, including several versions of PC Nav systems.
The PC nav systems are all trial versions (with the exception of a
public domain program called "Sea Clear") and are either designed
to operate for a limited number of days after activation or have some
of the more interesting features disabled. Users will have a chance to
compare, hands on, several systems before identifying a particular
favorite and arranging to purchase a permanent or fully functional
licensed copy.

If we were to offer any criticism at all of "Managing the
Waterway," it might be that the CD is a bit light on step-by-step
instructions for getting the system set up. We began by downloading all
of the 184* series charts onto our hard drive and then downloading one
of the sample PC Nav systems. One of the menu selections on the nav
system screen was
"get charts" and a browse option was included. We browsed up the
folder containing all of the 184* series charts, and within less than
another minute we had every NOAA chart pertaining to the Pacific NW
available for planning purposes.

Not bad for $24.95!

Semi-local productions also offers (for a slightly greater price) an
even more comprehensive CD with every NOAA chart for the entire US.

Looking for a stocking stuffer or a useful gift appropriate for a
boating buddy this holiday season? Check out Managing the Waterway at
www.managingthewaterway.com

********************


Jim November 14th 06 12:42 PM

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"Chuck Gould" wrote in message
ups.com...
Here is some additional information on the charts CD I mentioned a
couple of weeks ago.
Might make a great stocking stuffer for the holidays.
I looked at the West Coast version, but there is also a CD for the East
Coast.
Considering that it used to be commonplace to spend $15-30 for one
single chart, this really is a deal.

Follows:


We recently fielded a call from a gentleman named Mark Doyle. "Would
you like to know about our product?" he asked. "We have put all the
NOAA charts for the West Coast of the United States, Alaska, and the
Pacific Islands, all onto a single CD, readable in both PC or MAC
format, and compatible with virtually all of the computer navigation
software programs. In addition, the CD contains various government
publications such as Coast Pilots, Light Lists, and Chart #1. Oh, and
we also include trial versions of several PC software systems so that
folks who don't have a nav system on their PC can try out a few of
the industry leaders before making a final decision concerning which
system to purchase."

"Wow!" we replied. "That's a pretty ambitious CD. What does
that sell for? Maybe $150, or $200?"

"No, and that's what's so incredible about this product," said
Mark. "As a lot of people are probably aware, this year the
government began allowing the public to download raster navigation
charts free of charge. That only makes sense because the taxpayers'
money was spent to make these charts to begin with. Unfortunately,
trying to download, catalog, and organize an entire library of charts
can take an incredible amount of time. What's more, to stay up to
date the process really needs to be repeated once per year. Because the
charts are free to begin with, our customers are simply paying for the
downloading and cataloging service. The CD sells for $24.95"

"What? For $24.95 you provide every chart for the W Coast of the US,
Alaska, and the Pacific Islands, along with trial versions of different
software programs, light lists, and Coast Pilots? Heck, send us one!"

When the CD titled "Managing the Waterway" arrived from Mark's
company (semi-local productions LLC) we loaded it up onto the
editor's PC to explore the content. The CD does indeed contain
everything promised, including several versions of PC Nav systems.
The PC nav systems are all trial versions (with the exception of a
public domain program called "Sea Clear") and are either designed
to operate for a limited number of days after activation or have some
of the more interesting features disabled. Users will have a chance to
compare, hands on, several systems before identifying a particular
favorite and arranging to purchase a permanent or fully functional
licensed copy.

If we were to offer any criticism at all of "Managing the
Waterway," it might be that the CD is a bit light on step-by-step
instructions for getting the system set up. We began by downloading all
of the 184* series charts onto our hard drive and then downloading one
of the sample PC Nav systems. One of the menu selections on the nav
system screen was
"get charts" and a browse option was included. We browsed up the
folder containing all of the 184* series charts, and within less than
another minute we had every NOAA chart pertaining to the Pacific NW
available for planning purposes.

Not bad for $24.95!

Semi-local productions also offers (for a slightly greater price) an
even more comprehensive CD with every NOAA chart for the entire US.

Looking for a stocking stuffer or a useful gift appropriate for a
boating buddy this holiday season? Check out Managing the Waterway at
www.managingthewaterway.com

********************


P.S. Don't forget to mention Chuck's name when you place the order. I'm sure
he would appreciate it.



[email protected] November 14th 06 12:45 PM

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It does sound like a great deal. that is if I was a blue water boater.
But no. that isn't a bad price.



Chuck Gould wrote:
Here is some additional information on the charts CD I mentioned a
couple of weeks ago.
Might make a great stocking stuffer for the holidays.
I looked at the West Coast version, but there is also a CD for the East
Coast.
Considering that it used to be commonplace to spend $15-30 for one
single chart, this really is a deal.

Follows:


We recently fielded a call from a gentleman named Mark Doyle. "Would
you like to know about our product?" he asked. "We have put all the
NOAA charts for the West Coast of the United States, Alaska, and the
Pacific Islands, all onto a single CD, readable in both PC or MAC
format, and compatible with virtually all of the computer navigation
software programs. In addition, the CD contains various government
publications such as Coast Pilots, Light Lists, and Chart #1. Oh, and
we also include trial versions of several PC software systems so that
folks who don't have a nav system on their PC can try out a few of
the industry leaders before making a final decision concerning which
system to purchase."

"Wow!" we replied. "That's a pretty ambitious CD. What does
that sell for? Maybe $150, or $200?"

"No, and that's what's so incredible about this product," said
Mark. "As a lot of people are probably aware, this year the
government began allowing the public to download raster navigation
charts free of charge. That only makes sense because the taxpayers'
money was spent to make these charts to begin with. Unfortunately,
trying to download, catalog, and organize an entire library of charts
can take an incredible amount of time. What's more, to stay up to
date the process really needs to be repeated once per year. Because the
charts are free to begin with, our customers are simply paying for the
downloading and cataloging service. The CD sells for $24.95"

"What? For $24.95 you provide every chart for the W Coast of the US,
Alaska, and the Pacific Islands, along with trial versions of different
software programs, light lists, and Coast Pilots? Heck, send us one!"

When the CD titled "Managing the Waterway" arrived from Mark's
company (semi-local productions LLC) we loaded it up onto the
editor's PC to explore the content. The CD does indeed contain
everything promised, including several versions of PC Nav systems.
The PC nav systems are all trial versions (with the exception of a
public domain program called "Sea Clear") and are either designed
to operate for a limited number of days after activation or have some
of the more interesting features disabled. Users will have a chance to
compare, hands on, several systems before identifying a particular
favorite and arranging to purchase a permanent or fully functional
licensed copy.

If we were to offer any criticism at all of "Managing the
Waterway," it might be that the CD is a bit light on step-by-step
instructions for getting the system set up. We began by downloading all
of the 184* series charts onto our hard drive and then downloading one
of the sample PC Nav systems. One of the menu selections on the nav
system screen was
"get charts" and a browse option was included. We browsed up the
folder containing all of the 184* series charts, and within less than
another minute we had every NOAA chart pertaining to the Pacific NW
available for planning purposes.

Not bad for $24.95!

Semi-local productions also offers (for a slightly greater price) an
even more comprehensive CD with every NOAA chart for the entire US.

Looking for a stocking stuffer or a useful gift appropriate for a
boating buddy this holiday season? Check out Managing the Waterway at
www.managingthewaterway.com

********************



JohnH November 14th 06 01:11 PM

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On Tue, 14 Nov 2006 12:42:34 GMT, "Jim" wrote:


"Chuck Gould" wrote in message
oups.com...
Here is some additional information on the charts CD I mentioned a
couple of weeks ago.
Might make a great stocking stuffer for the holidays.
I looked at the West Coast version, but there is also a CD for the East
Coast.
Considering that it used to be commonplace to spend $15-30 for one
single chart, this really is a deal.

Follows:


We recently fielded a call from a gentleman named Mark Doyle. "Would
you like to know about our product?" he asked. "We have put all the
NOAA charts for the West Coast of the United States, Alaska, and the
Pacific Islands, all onto a single CD, readable in both PC or MAC
format, and compatible with virtually all of the computer navigation
software programs. In addition, the CD contains various government
publications such as Coast Pilots, Light Lists, and Chart #1. Oh, and
we also include trial versions of several PC software systems so that
folks who don't have a nav system on their PC can try out a few of
the industry leaders before making a final decision concerning which

Snippage

P.S. Don't forget to mention Chuck's name when you place the order. I'm sure
he would appreciate it.


I didn't see a place to do so on the order form, but it's a nice idea!

JimH November 14th 06 01:11 PM

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"Chuck Gould" wrote in message
ups.com...
Here is some additional information on the charts CD I mentioned a
couple of weeks ago.
Might make a great stocking stuffer for the holidays.
I looked at the West Coast version, but there is also a CD for the East
Coast.
Considering that it used to be commonplace to spend $15-30 for one
single chart, this really is a deal.

Follows:


the rest of the shameless spam was snipped

When did your brother start this company Chuck?



Don White November 14th 06 01:34 PM

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JimH wrote:
"Chuck Gould" wrote in message
ups.com...

Here is some additional information on the charts CD I mentioned a
couple of weeks ago.
Might make a great stocking stuffer for the holidays.
I looked at the West Coast version, but there is also a CD for the East
Coast.
Considering that it used to be commonplace to spend $15-30 for one
single chart, this really is a deal.

Follows:



the rest of the shameless spam was snipped

When did your brother start this company Chuck?


Actually, it's not a bad little 'gig' Chuck has going for himself. A
little plug or promo here & there seems to bring truckloads of freebies.
If the products are as good as claimed, I suppose it could be a win win
situation.

Chuck Gould November 14th 06 03:13 PM

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JimH wrote:
"Chuck Gould" wrote in message
ups.com...
Here is some additional information on the charts CD I mentioned a
couple of weeks ago.
Might make a great stocking stuffer for the holidays.
I looked at the West Coast version, but there is also a CD for the East
Coast.
Considering that it used to be commonplace to spend $15-30 for one
single chart, this really is a deal.

Follows:


the rest of the shameless spam was snipped

When did your brother start this company Chuck?


You're probably right. I really should post about the latest lens I
bought for my camera, where I got it, and how much I paid. The general
consensus seems to be that posts about politics and cameras, boasts
about major purchases not even related to boating, etc are more
appropriate for rec.boats than information about something available
for the price of a half decent bottle of wine and that might prove
useful to a boater.

I deserve all the criticism you'd care to heap on. The nerve! I should
have been posting about
"the greatest war movie ever filmed" or some such drivel, rather than
reporting on a new product that actually has to do with boating. What
was I thinking?


Chuck Gould November 14th 06 03:15 PM

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Jim wrote:


P.S. Don't forget to mention Chuck's name when you place the order. I'm sure
he would appreciate it.


Go ahead and order one, Jim. I don't make a cent on the sale of these
things, but if it isn't *exactly* as described I'll personally send you
a full refund.


Chuck Gould November 14th 06 03:25 PM

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Don White wrote:

Actually, it's not a bad little 'gig' Chuck has going for himself. A
little plug or promo here & there seems to bring truckloads of freebies.
If the products are as good as claimed, I suppose it could be a win win
situation.


I do get a bit of free stuff here and there. Most of it is completely
unsolicited, and in the vast majority of cases I'll never write a line
about it. Things that go unmentioned are small items that I can't
personally test out, things without an actual and practical value (i.e.
"new, revolutionary, curved profile fender brush") or things that
testing and inspection show do *not* live up to their billing.

Too bad you Canadians aren't more liberal with chart distribution. Lack
of BC charts leaves a "hole" in the middle of the Puget Sound to Alaska
cruising grounds favored by many boaters in this region, but for $25 a
Pac NW boater can have every US chart he or she will ever need.


JimH November 14th 06 03:59 PM

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"Chuck Gould" wrote in message
ups.com...

JimH wrote:
"Chuck Gould" wrote in message
ups.com...
Here is some additional information on the charts CD I mentioned a
couple of weeks ago.
Might make a great stocking stuffer for the holidays.
I looked at the West Coast version, but there is also a CD for the East
Coast.
Considering that it used to be commonplace to spend $15-30 for one
single chart, this really is a deal.

Follows:


the rest of the shameless spam was snipped

When did your brother start this company Chuck?


You're probably right. I really should post about the latest lens I
bought for my camera, where I got it, and how much I paid. The general
consensus seems to be that posts about politics and cameras, boasts
about major purchases not even related to boating, etc are more
appropriate for rec.boats than information about something available
for the price of a half decent bottle of wine and that might prove
useful to a boater.

I deserve all the criticism you'd care to heap on. The nerve! I should
have been posting about
"the greatest war movie ever filmed" or some such drivel, rather than
reporting on a new product that actually has to do with boating. What
was I thinking?


sigh

Boats are in your life 24x7. Most of us have more varied interests.

I find your 2,000 word advertisements here far more objectionable than a
discussion about war movies on Veterans Day.

The OT threads you object to usually turn south only after you and your
deputies ride to enforce *your* laws.







Jim November 14th 06 04:12 PM

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"Chuck Gould" wrote in message
ups.com...

Jim wrote:


P.S. Don't forget to mention Chuck's name when you place the order. I'm
sure
he would appreciate it.


Go ahead and order one, Jim. I don't make a cent on the sale of these
things, but if it isn't *exactly* as described I'll personally send you
a full refund.

Hmmmm...................















Chuck Gould November 14th 06 05:14 PM

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JimH wrote:


Boats are in your life 24x7. Most of us have more varied interests.


Then wouldn't it be appropriate to participate in a variety of
newsgroups, rather than impose your personal interests on a group
gathered for another, specific purpose? Anybody ever experiment with
posting boating related items to the photography newsgroup? How did
that go? How about the TCM discussion group- are boating items well
received over there?
Maybe a discussion about the advantages and disadvantages of various
docklines would be
useful in either the Bush.is.a.blithering.idiot group or the
Liberals.and.democrats.should.all.be.taken.out.and .lynched forum.

I find your 2,000 word advertisements here far more objectionable than a
discussion about war movies on Veterans Day.


What does a "war movie" have to do with Veterans' Day? I've never been
in a war, (and as far as I know neither have you), but I'd be willing
to bet a pretty pile that the actual experience is a lot different than
the stuff you see on a movie screen. The more appropriate question;
what does a war movie have to do with recreational boating?


The OT threads you object to usually turn south only after you and your
deputies ride to enforce *your* laws.


Nobody can enforce anything, Jim. You are free to post your political
opinions here, just as I am free to comment on whether or not I think
they are appropriate for a boating newsgroup.
You irritate me with your political cut 'n pastes and personal attack
threads trolled through a boating newsgroup, and I irritate you by
making boating related posts to the same forum. Looks like one of us
has a screwed up agenda. Somehow, I suspect that referring to the title
of the NG might provide some insight regarding who might be confused
here- but again that would only be my opinion and you're free to
disagree and post whatever you want.


JimH November 14th 06 05:34 PM

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"Chuck Gould" wrote in message
oups.com...

JimH wrote:


Boats are in your life 24x7. Most of us have more varied interests.


Then wouldn't it be appropriate to participate in a variety of
newsgroups, rather than impose your personal interests on a group
gathered for another, specific purpose? Anybody ever experiment with
posting boating related items to the photography newsgroup? How did
that go? How about the TCM discussion group- are boating items well
received over there?
Maybe a discussion about the advantages and disadvantages of various
docklines would be
useful in either the Bush.is.a.blithering.idiot group or the
Liberals.and.democrats.should.all.be.taken.out.and .lynched forum.

I find your 2,000 word advertisements here far more objectionable than a
discussion about war movies on Veterans Day.


What does a "war movie" have to do with Veterans' Day? I've never been
in a war, (and as far as I know neither have you), but I'd be willing
to bet a pretty pile that the actual experience is a lot different than
the stuff you see on a movie screen. The more appropriate question;
what does a war movie have to do with recreational boating?


The OT threads you object to usually turn south only after you and your
deputies ride to enforce *your* laws.


Nobody can enforce anything, Jim. You are free to post your political
opinions here, just as I am free to comment on whether or not I think
they are appropriate for a boating newsgroup.
You irritate me with your political cut 'n pastes and personal attack
threads trolled through a boating newsgroup, and I irritate you by
making boating related posts to the same forum. Looks like one of us
has a screwed up agenda. Somehow, I suspect that referring to the title
of the NG might provide some insight regarding who might be confused
here- but again that would only be my opinion and you're free to
disagree and post whatever you want.


I only post a personal attack after being attacked. I also do not get into
the gutter with foul language as several members here do. Yesterday's foul
mouthed personal attack on me by JohnH is an example.

I also do not start many political threads. In fact I doubt you will find
more than 3 or so over the past few months. You, on the other hand,
participate in the political stuff with your comments and 2,000 word
editorials, then get back on your pony telling others not do what you just
did.

I would not have a problem with your sheriffing if you at least followed
your own rules Chuck. Giddyup!



Chuck Gould November 14th 06 06:00 PM

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JimH wrote:

I would not have a problem with your sheriffing if you at least followed
your own rules Chuck. Giddyup!


I don't make or enforce any rules. Anybody posting political nonsense
to the boating NG, or participating in discussion of politics, is (in
my opinion) behaving in a manner that is contrary to the long term
health and vitality of the NG. That would absolutely include me on the
ocassions when I succumb to the temptation, so please feel free to
citicize my behavior when I participate in OT political threads. I'll
deserve it.

We're not that different, JimH. You can't see how you're out of sync
with the stated purpose of a boating newsgroup with threads like "Who's
the weirdest character ever to post to this NG?" or "I hope you're
happy (now that the Democrats won congress and the terrorists will be
coming ashore in droves)" or "The Greatest War Movie Ever Filmed!" and
I can't see how I'm out of sync posting about boats, boating, and
boating related products and services.

My suggestion was since if you have a variety of interests, you
might be less frustrated posting to a variety of newsgroups. You have
been known to make an interesting boating related post or two, and
undoubtedly your posts about your other interests would be even more
appreciated in forums where people gather to discuss those subjects as
well.


Wayne.B November 14th 06 06:06 PM

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On 14 Nov 2006 07:25:49 -0800, "Chuck Gould"
wrote:

for $25 a
Pac NW boater can have every US chart he or she will ever need.


That's a great deal since you can get them for nothing in exchange for
a little download time on your computer. I'd like to see the
Canadians improve upon that price since they seem to value their
charts very highly.


JohnH November 14th 06 06:28 PM

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On Tue, 14 Nov 2006 16:41:08 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:

On 14 Nov 2006 07:13:18 -0800, "Chuck Gould"
wrote:

I really should post about the latest lens I
bought for my camera, where I got it, and how much I paid.


Speaking of relatives and cameras, I just had the best lunch I've had
in a while.

Stopped at a new deli in town - run by real deli guys from Neeew York
City and had the veggie cheese spread on a whole rye bagel, fresh made
potato salad on a bed of romaine lettuce, half sour pickles (three of
them) and a small taster bowl of cole slaw.

I'm telling you, that sandwich was unbelievable. It was a base cream
cheese mixed with chopped pieces of carrot, tomato, green/red/yellow
pepper, celery and what I think was pimento with just a hint of garlic
- mixed it right up in front of me. The fresh rye bagel had a couple
of leafs of lettuce on it. The potato salad was made with baby red
potatoes with onions, green peppers, celery and hard boiled egg with a
very light olive oil dressing and another slight hint of garlic.

Cole slaw is cole slaw but this was different - that same light olive
oil dressing.

Man, that was a good lunch.

Finished it off with a one liter bottle of Diet Pepsi - perfect. :)

So, what did you have for lunch Chuck?

Oh wait, it's not lunch time out in the Great North West.

What 'cha have for breakfast? :)


You should have had some anchovies on that sandwich. Yummy.

Eisboch November 14th 06 06:56 PM

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rec.b-o-a-t-s

bored, ornery and thinking summer



JimH November 14th 06 07:04 PM

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"Eisboch" wrote in message
...

rec.b-o-a-t-s

bored, ornery and thinking summer



It's all Duke Nukem's fault!



Calif Bill November 14th 06 07:11 PM

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"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...
On 14 Nov 2006 07:13:18 -0800, "Chuck Gould"
wrote:

I really should post about the latest lens I
bought for my camera, where I got it, and how much I paid.


Speaking of relatives and cameras, I just had the best lunch I've had
in a while.

Stopped at a new deli in town - run by real deli guys from Neeew York
City and had the veggie cheese spread on a whole rye bagel, fresh made
potato salad on a bed of romaine lettuce, half sour pickles (three of
them) and a small taster bowl of cole slaw.

I'm telling you, that sandwich was unbelievable. It was a base cream
cheese mixed with chopped pieces of carrot, tomato, green/red/yellow
pepper, celery and what I think was pimento with just a hint of garlic
- mixed it right up in front of me. The fresh rye bagel had a couple
of leafs of lettuce on it. The potato salad was made with baby red
potatoes with onions, green peppers, celery and hard boiled egg with a
very light olive oil dressing and another slight hint of garlic.

Cole slaw is cole slaw but this was different - that same light olive
oil dressing.

Man, that was a good lunch.

Finished it off with a one liter bottle of Diet Pepsi - perfect. :)

So, what did you have for lunch Chuck?

Oh wait, it's not lunch time out in the Great North West.

What 'cha have for breakfast? :)


Cole slaw is not just cole slaw. So many different variations of the
dressing. My preferred is the vinegar / brown sugar used in the south in
BB! joints.



JohnH November 14th 06 08:46 PM

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On Tue, 14 Nov 2006 19:11:01 GMT, "Calif Bill"
wrote:


"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
.. .
On 14 Nov 2006 07:13:18 -0800, "Chuck Gould"
wrote:

I really should post about the latest lens I
bought for my camera, where I got it, and how much I paid.


Speaking of relatives and cameras, I just had the best lunch I've had
in a while.

Stopped at a new deli in town - run by real deli guys from Neeew York
City and had the veggie cheese spread on a whole rye bagel, fresh made
potato salad on a bed of romaine lettuce, half sour pickles (three of
them) and a small taster bowl of cole slaw.

I'm telling you, that sandwich was unbelievable. It was a base cream
cheese mixed with chopped pieces of carrot, tomato, green/red/yellow
pepper, celery and what I think was pimento with just a hint of garlic
- mixed it right up in front of me. The fresh rye bagel had a couple
of leafs of lettuce on it. The potato salad was made with baby red
potatoes with onions, green peppers, celery and hard boiled egg with a
very light olive oil dressing and another slight hint of garlic.

Cole slaw is cole slaw but this was different - that same light olive
oil dressing.

Man, that was a good lunch.

Finished it off with a one liter bottle of Diet Pepsi - perfect. :)

So, what did you have for lunch Chuck?

Oh wait, it's not lunch time out in the Great North West.

What 'cha have for breakfast? :)


Cole slaw is not just cole slaw. So many different variations of the
dressing. My preferred is the vinegar / brown sugar used in the south in
BB! joints.


Here is a great cole slaw recipe, right from this group - but I don't
remember who.

Cole Slaw

1 ½ lb shredded cabbage
1 teaspoon salt (usually more needed)
2/3 cup sugar
1/3 cup vinegar
1 cup whipping cream
¼ teaspoon coarse ground pepper (or more!)

Place shredded cabbage in a covered dish in refrigerator for several hours.
Mix ingredients in order given 30 minutes before serving. Chill and serve.

Now, where's the recipe for the brown sugar stuff?

JohnH November 14th 06 09:44 PM

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On Tue, 14 Nov 2006 21:24:46 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:

On Tue, 14 Nov 2006 13:28:10 -0500, JohnH wrote:

On Tue, 14 Nov 2006 16:41:08 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:

On 14 Nov 2006 07:13:18 -0800, "Chuck Gould"
wrote:

I really should post about the latest lens I
bought for my camera, where I got it, and how much I paid.

Speaking of relatives and cameras, I just had the best lunch I've had
in a while.

Stopped at a new deli in town - run by real deli guys from Neeew York
City and had the veggie cheese spread on a whole rye bagel, fresh made
potato salad on a bed of romaine lettuce, half sour pickles (three of
them) and a small taster bowl of cole slaw.

I'm telling you, that sandwich was unbelievable. It was a base cream
cheese mixed with chopped pieces of carrot, tomato, green/red/yellow
pepper, celery and what I think was pimento with just a hint of garlic
- mixed it right up in front of me. The fresh rye bagel had a couple
of leafs of lettuce on it. The potato salad was made with baby red
potatoes with onions, green peppers, celery and hard boiled egg with a
very light olive oil dressing and another slight hint of garlic.

Cole slaw is cole slaw but this was different - that same light olive
oil dressing.

Man, that was a good lunch.

Finished it off with a one liter bottle of Diet Pepsi - perfect. :)

So, what did you have for lunch Chuck?

Oh wait, it's not lunch time out in the Great North West.

What 'cha have for breakfast? :)


You should have had some anchovies on that sandwich. Yummy.


EEEWWWWWWWWWWWW!!!!!!


Wimp.

Jack Redington November 14th 06 11:28 PM

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JimH wrote:
"Chuck Gould" wrote in message
ups.com...

Here is some additional information on the charts CD I mentioned a
couple of weeks ago.
Might make a great stocking stuffer for the holidays.
I looked at the West Coast version, but there is also a CD for the East
Coast.
Considering that it used to be commonplace to spend $15-30 for one
single chart, this really is a deal.

Follows:



the rest of the shameless spam was snipped

When did your brother start this company Chuck?



I would rather have on topic spam (not saying this is spam but this
seems to what it being implied) Then all the off topic crap by those
without a clue.

And heck Chuck does not even like me :-)

Capt Jack R..


Calif Bill November 14th 06 11:37 PM

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"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 14 Nov 2006 19:11:01 GMT, "Calif Bill"
wrote:


"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
. ..
On 14 Nov 2006 07:13:18 -0800, "Chuck Gould"
wrote:

I really should post about the latest lens I
bought for my camera, where I got it, and how much I paid.

Speaking of relatives and cameras, I just had the best lunch I've had
in a while.

Stopped at a new deli in town - run by real deli guys from Neeew York
City and had the veggie cheese spread on a whole rye bagel, fresh made
potato salad on a bed of romaine lettuce, half sour pickles (three of
them) and a small taster bowl of cole slaw.

I'm telling you, that sandwich was unbelievable. It was a base cream
cheese mixed with chopped pieces of carrot, tomato, green/red/yellow
pepper, celery and what I think was pimento with just a hint of garlic
- mixed it right up in front of me. The fresh rye bagel had a couple
of leafs of lettuce on it. The potato salad was made with baby red
potatoes with onions, green peppers, celery and hard boiled egg with a
very light olive oil dressing and another slight hint of garlic.

Cole slaw is cole slaw but this was different - that same light olive
oil dressing.

Man, that was a good lunch.

Finished it off with a one liter bottle of Diet Pepsi - perfect. :)

So, what did you have for lunch Chuck?

Oh wait, it's not lunch time out in the Great North West.

What 'cha have for breakfast? :)


Cole slaw is not just cole slaw. So many different variations of the
dressing. My preferred is the vinegar / brown sugar used in the south in
BB! joints.


Brown sugar?

Good lord...



Might be molasses.



Calif Bill November 14th 06 11:38 PM

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"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 14 Nov 2006 13:28:10 -0500, JohnH wrote:

On Tue, 14 Nov 2006 16:41:08 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:

On 14 Nov 2006 07:13:18 -0800, "Chuck Gould"
wrote:

I really should post about the latest lens I
bought for my camera, where I got it, and how much I paid.

Speaking of relatives and cameras, I just had the best lunch I've had
in a while.

Stopped at a new deli in town - run by real deli guys from Neeew York
City and had the veggie cheese spread on a whole rye bagel, fresh made
potato salad on a bed of romaine lettuce, half sour pickles (three of
them) and a small taster bowl of cole slaw.

I'm telling you, that sandwich was unbelievable. It was a base cream
cheese mixed with chopped pieces of carrot, tomato, green/red/yellow
pepper, celery and what I think was pimento with just a hint of garlic
- mixed it right up in front of me. The fresh rye bagel had a couple
of leafs of lettuce on it. The potato salad was made with baby red
potatoes with onions, green peppers, celery and hard boiled egg with a
very light olive oil dressing and another slight hint of garlic.

Cole slaw is cole slaw but this was different - that same light olive
oil dressing.

Man, that was a good lunch.

Finished it off with a one liter bottle of Diet Pepsi - perfect. :)

So, what did you have for lunch Chuck?

Oh wait, it's not lunch time out in the Great North West.

What 'cha have for breakfast? :)


You should have had some anchovies on that sandwich. Yummy.


EEEWWWWWWWWWWWW!!!!!!


When in Italy a couple of years ago we had fried and also fried stuff
anchovies. Were very good. But they were fresh caught and not that oily,
salted cured stuff. Was pleasantly surprised.



JohnH November 15th 06 12:11 AM

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On Tue, 14 Nov 2006 23:38:26 GMT, "Calif Bill"
wrote:


"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
.. .
On Tue, 14 Nov 2006 13:28:10 -0500, JohnH wrote:

On Tue, 14 Nov 2006 16:41:08 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:

On 14 Nov 2006 07:13:18 -0800, "Chuck Gould"
wrote:

I really should post about the latest lens I
bought for my camera, where I got it, and how much I paid.

Speaking of relatives and cameras, I just had the best lunch I've had
in a while.

Stopped at a new deli in town - run by real deli guys from Neeew York
City and had the veggie cheese spread on a whole rye bagel, fresh made
potato salad on a bed of romaine lettuce, half sour pickles (three of
them) and a small taster bowl of cole slaw.

I'm telling you, that sandwich was unbelievable. It was a base cream
cheese mixed with chopped pieces of carrot, tomato, green/red/yellow
pepper, celery and what I think was pimento with just a hint of garlic
- mixed it right up in front of me. The fresh rye bagel had a couple
of leafs of lettuce on it. The potato salad was made with baby red
potatoes with onions, green peppers, celery and hard boiled egg with a
very light olive oil dressing and another slight hint of garlic.

Cole slaw is cole slaw but this was different - that same light olive
oil dressing.

Man, that was a good lunch.

Finished it off with a one liter bottle of Diet Pepsi - perfect. :)

So, what did you have for lunch Chuck?

Oh wait, it's not lunch time out in the Great North West.

What 'cha have for breakfast? :)

You should have had some anchovies on that sandwich. Yummy.


EEEWWWWWWWWWWWW!!!!!!


When in Italy a couple of years ago we had fried and also fried stuff
anchovies. Were very good. But they were fresh caught and not that oily,
salted cured stuff. Was pleasantly surprised.


All anchovies are good!

Eisboch November 15th 06 12:12 AM

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"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...


Anchovies suck.


Anchovies are awesome on salads or pizza. Great, spicy taste resulting in
bad breath. I love how those prickly little spines get caught between your
teeth.

Eisboch



JohnH November 15th 06 12:24 AM

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On Tue, 14 Nov 2006 19:12:32 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote:


"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
.. .


Anchovies suck.


Anchovies are awesome on salads or pizza. Great, spicy taste resulting in
bad breath. I love how those prickly little spines get caught between your
teeth.

Eisboch


Anchovies make tuna fish salad worth eating!

Calif Bill November 15th 06 12:47 AM

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"JohnH" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 14 Nov 2006 23:38:26 GMT, "Calif Bill"
wrote:


"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
. ..
On Tue, 14 Nov 2006 13:28:10 -0500, JohnH wrote:

On Tue, 14 Nov 2006 16:41:08 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:

On 14 Nov 2006 07:13:18 -0800, "Chuck Gould"
wrote:

I really should post about the latest lens I
bought for my camera, where I got it, and how much I paid.

Speaking of relatives and cameras, I just had the best lunch I've had
in a while.

Stopped at a new deli in town - run by real deli guys from Neeew York
City and had the veggie cheese spread on a whole rye bagel, fresh made
potato salad on a bed of romaine lettuce, half sour pickles (three of
them) and a small taster bowl of cole slaw.

I'm telling you, that sandwich was unbelievable. It was a base cream
cheese mixed with chopped pieces of carrot, tomato, green/red/yellow
pepper, celery and what I think was pimento with just a hint of garlic
- mixed it right up in front of me. The fresh rye bagel had a couple
of leafs of lettuce on it. The potato salad was made with baby red
potatoes with onions, green peppers, celery and hard boiled egg with a
very light olive oil dressing and another slight hint of garlic.

Cole slaw is cole slaw but this was different - that same light olive
oil dressing.

Man, that was a good lunch.

Finished it off with a one liter bottle of Diet Pepsi - perfect. :)

So, what did you have for lunch Chuck?

Oh wait, it's not lunch time out in the Great North West.

What 'cha have for breakfast? :)

You should have had some anchovies on that sandwich. Yummy.

EEEWWWWWWWWWWWW!!!!!!


When in Italy a couple of years ago we had fried and also fried stuff
anchovies. Were very good. But they were fresh caught and not that oily,
salted cured stuff. Was pleasantly surprised.


All anchovies are good!


Those cured things you get here are baaaaaaaaaddddddddddd.



Calif Bill November 15th 06 12:49 AM

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"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 14 Nov 2006 23:38:26 GMT, "Calif Bill"
wrote:


"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
. ..
On Tue, 14 Nov 2006 13:28:10 -0500, JohnH wrote:

On Tue, 14 Nov 2006 16:41:08 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:

On 14 Nov 2006 07:13:18 -0800, "Chuck Gould"
wrote:

I really should post about the latest lens I
bought for my camera, where I got it, and how much I paid.

Speaking of relatives and cameras, I just had the best lunch I've had
in a while.

Stopped at a new deli in town - run by real deli guys from Neeew York
City and had the veggie cheese spread on a whole rye bagel, fresh made
potato salad on a bed of romaine lettuce, half sour pickles (three of
them) and a small taster bowl of cole slaw.

I'm telling you, that sandwich was unbelievable. It was a base cream
cheese mixed with chopped pieces of carrot, tomato, green/red/yellow
pepper, celery and what I think was pimento with just a hint of garlic
- mixed it right up in front of me. The fresh rye bagel had a couple
of leafs of lettuce on it. The potato salad was made with baby red
potatoes with onions, green peppers, celery and hard boiled egg with a
very light olive oil dressing and another slight hint of garlic.

Cole slaw is cole slaw but this was different - that same light olive
oil dressing.

Man, that was a good lunch.

Finished it off with a one liter bottle of Diet Pepsi - perfect. :)

So, what did you have for lunch Chuck?

Oh wait, it's not lunch time out in the Great North West.

What 'cha have for breakfast? :)

You should have had some anchovies on that sandwich. Yummy.

EEEWWWWWWWWWWWW!!!!!!


When in Italy a couple of years ago we had fried and also fried stuff
anchovies. Were very good. But they were fresh caught and not that oily,
salted cured stuff. Was pleasantly surprised.


Anchovies suck.


Actually we were pleasantly surprised. Wife is not much of a fish lover,
Catholic, and she admitted they were good. And Anchovies pinned on a live
bait hook for tuna or Yellowtail or salmon are very good also.



Chuck Gould November 15th 06 02:04 AM

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Jack Redington wrote:


I would rather have on topic spam (not saying this is spam but this
seems to what it being implied) Then all the off topic crap by those
without a clue.

And heck Chuck does not even like me :-)

Capt Jack R..


Why would you say that? I don't even know you.


Jack Redington November 16th 06 10:54 PM

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Chuck Gould wrote:
Jack Redington wrote:


I would rather have on topic spam (not saying this is spam but this
seems to what it being implied) Then all the off topic crap by those
without a clue.

And heck Chuck does not even like me :-)

Capt Jack R..



Why would you say that? I don't even know you.


We had a disagreement a long time ago - I will just leave it at that.

Cheers

Capt Jack R..


Chuck Gould November 17th 06 01:00 AM

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Jack Redington wrote:
Chuck Gould wrote:
Jack Redington wrote:


I would rather have on topic spam (not saying this is spam but this
seems to what it being implied) Then all the off topic crap by those
without a clue.

And heck Chuck does not even like me :-)

Capt Jack R..



Why would you say that? I don't even know you.


We had a disagreement a long time ago - I will just leave it at that.

Cheers

Capt Jack R..


Good grief, Jack. If I took a dislike to everybody who ever disagreed
with me I'd have to dislike almost everybody. Whatever it was, I
certainly forgot about it.


JimH November 17th 06 01:15 AM

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"Chuck Gould" wrote in message
oups.com...

Jack Redington wrote:
Chuck Gould wrote:
Jack Redington wrote:


I would rather have on topic spam (not saying this is spam but this
seems to what it being implied) Then all the off topic crap by those
without a clue.

And heck Chuck does not even like me :-)

Capt Jack R..


Why would you say that? I don't even know you.


We had a disagreement a long time ago - I will just leave it at that.

Cheers

Capt Jack R..


Good grief, Jack. If I took a dislike to everybody who ever disagreed
with me I'd have to dislike almost everybody. Whatever it was, I
certainly forgot about it.


I can second that.

You do have a hard shell Chuck and do not carry grudges.

More of us need to learn from that positive trait of yours. ;-)



Wayne.B November 17th 06 02:57 AM

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On Fri, 17 Nov 2006 01:29:32 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:

Speaking of which, I'm scheduled to go look at a Nordic Tug 42' on
Monday or Tuesday depending on time constraints.

This ought to be interesting.

I wonder if they make an outboard version? :)


Don't forget the after burner and hydrofoil option.

And check out that little fake smoke stack and see if there is really
a propane tank in there.

A *REAL* boat (like a Grand Banks) would have a flybridge up there
with a million dollar view.


DSK November 17th 06 03:30 AM

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Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
Speaking of which, I'm scheduled to go look at a Nordic Tug 42' on
Monday or Tuesday depending on time constraints.

This ought to be interesting.


It's well built and overpowered. You'll love it.

Do yourself a favor though, check out the American Tug 41
before writing a check for one.


I wonder if they make an outboard version? :)


Umm, no. You can run it on biodiesel though.

DSK



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