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"DSK" wrote in message
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Don White wrote:
What do you think a dinghy like that would be worth?

Well, it's costing me about $3k worth of materials, bought retail and with
moderate regard for keeping expense down. It doesn't include
vacuum-bagging gear.


How would it compare to a $1K Walker Bay 8' model

Glad you asked.
The Walker Bay looks like a cheap toy next to my dinghy. It is about 4x
heavier, has far less carrying capacity, and (if theory proves somewhat
correct) should be noticably less stable. It will also be harder to row
and slower/less efficient if used with a motor. Of course, mine has the
advantage of being a foot longer.

However I don't think that anybody would pay 5X the price of a Walker Bay
for a similar boat no matter how blatantly obvious it's technical
advantages.

DSK


The Walker Bay is good for kids or very light adults. It's not good for a
200+ pounder, I can unfortunately confirm.

Eisboch

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Albert Hickman was no slouch either, but he turned himself
into a grumpy idealogue


Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
You think he was a grumpy ideologue, you should have met George O'Day.
That guy was the sourest, grumpy, touchy, unapproachable old fart I
ever met in my life and held a similar opinion about his Day Sailors.

I have met George O'Day a few times, raced against him some
in the long-long-ago. Small world! He was a brilliant racing
skipper. He gave the impression of being less of a screaming
butt-head towards his crew than many skippers were back in
those days, however I didn't approach him for conversation..

The ironic thing about the Day Sailor is that he didn't even
design it. Uffa Fox did. Nice boat although still not the
answer to all the world's problems.

DSK

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Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
Back in my late twenties, I met a guy from Thomaston, ME named Harold
"Dynamite" Payson at a Mystic Seaport Museum boat building class - it
was right after I sobered up and I was going to build a sail boat for
my own amusement and to keep me out of trouble.

Harold Payson was a character of the highest order. Lobsta' man by
trade, he built his own boats and got into building plywood boats -
most of them designed by Phil Bolger of all people. :)

http://www.instantboats.com/


Yep. I built a couple of Teals and Surfs, at one point I was
going to build an Instant Catboat. I still have the plans,
so one day I might.


Anyway, to make a long story short, I began quite a conversation with
him, ended up telling the story of why I was there and eventually
developed a level of communication that was unusual for a "fan" and
the "fanee" I guess you would call it. It became a Saturday morning
ritual for a long time chatting with him about how I was going with my
boat (The Glocester Gull adapted for sail). During one of those
conversations, he said that the Gull design would be perfect for some
"new fangled foam core" technique.


Yep, all those instant designs would be well suited for
building in foam core.


Side note - eventually, right before Christmas in 1980, I received
autographed copies of his books and all his plans in the mail along
with a very nice note about building boats and the joy derived from
it.


Nice.


I haven't built a boat since the Gull, but I can appreciate the effort
you put into it.


Someday when you have time to consider it, and not quite so
many ready-made boats under foot, you may decide to again.
It's a great pastime, especially if you have a young person
hanging around who needs something other than video games to
be interested in. It's a lot of effort, but there's also a
lot of satisfaction in completing every part & every stage
of construction. And when you're riding around in it, you
have the satisfaction of knowing that you are aboard the
BEST BUILT boat as far as the eye can see!

Regards
Doug King

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On Tue, 07 Nov 2006 21:23:56 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:

I haven't built a boat since the Gull, but I can appreciate the effort
you put into it.

Most excellent Doug - most excellent.

Absolutely. It is difficult to appreciate the skill, effort and
workmanship required to build even a small boat until you have tried
it yourself.

Glenn Ashmore is one of my heros. He's been working on a 40 something
cruising sailboat since my first days on the internet back in the
early to mid 90s.

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Wayne.B wrote:
Glenn Ashmore is one of my heros. He's been working on a 40 something
cruising sailboat since my first days on the internet back in the
early to mid 90s.


Glenn's a hero all right. He not only did all that, he
documented it on his web site and is uniformly helpful to
others with their projects. RUTU is awesome!

DSk

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DSK wrote:
Wayne.B wrote:
Glenn Ashmore is one of my heros. He's been working on a 40 something
cruising sailboat since my first days on the internet back in the
early to mid 90s.


Glenn's a hero all right. He not only did all that, he documented it on
his web site and is uniformly helpful to others with their projects.
RUTU is awesome!

DSk

What is the status of his project? Do you have an updated link.

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Pic from this morning
http://sports.webshots.com/photo/261...35692614eOakGw

Here is the most recent pic
http://sports.webshots.com/photo/266...35692614wfZuXl

The stern sheets (seat) is not finished & installed
structurally, you can see the edge of the foam core. The
center thwart is not totally finished yet but does have the
knees tabbed in (last night's epoxy job); it is structurally
complete. The gunwhales are not finished yet and are
tremendously strong, you can lift the boat from any point
(and drop it too, ask me how I know) along the gun'l and
there is zero flex.

The bow seat is just now having the foam core cut to fit.

The surfaces look rougher than they are because of the
different shades of filler/mix used in the epoxy. It is all
finished to a satin feel from the peel ply. I will have to
do some sanding & fairing though.

The whole boat is TREMENDOUSLY strong. If I were to do it
all over again, I would use lighter cloth & save a lot of
weight. Who needs a dinghy that can support a locomotive?

DSK

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On Sat, 11 Nov 2006 13:48:46 -0500, DSK wrote:

The whole boat is TREMENDOUSLY strong. If I were to do it
all over again, I would use lighter cloth & save a lot of
weight. Who needs a dinghy that can support a locomotive?

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What do you figure the finished weight will come in at?

Any plans for an outboard, and if so, how big?

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Wayne.B wrote:
What do you figure the finished weight will come in at?


I was originally hoping for 20 ~ 25 lbs. Now I'm hoping for
30 ~ 35 lbs. The gun'l rubrail will be a big portion of that.


Any plans for an outboard, and if so, how big?


It could carry an outboard, that's one reason I made the
stern sections a little bit fatter & flatter than I would
have for aesthetics & pure rowing performance. Should carry
any reasonable 9.9hp (70 lbs? 80?) and the fat part of the
skeg is sized to clear a short shaft. It won't motor as well
as a flat-bottomed dink, of course; but I expect it should
plane.

DSK

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Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
Very nice - I assume you are going to paint it?

Roll and Tip?


Thanks. I am going to paint it, and am hoping to use an
airless sprayer. I have done roll & tip before and can get
it pretty good that way (especially with some buffing). But
sprayed is so much more cool.




Who needs a dinghy that can support a locomotive?


Well, if you sail it on the railroad tracks....

If we're attacked by pirates, we can deploy it vertically as
a bulletproof shield!

DSK