Need for bottom paint??
 

Next week, our 2002 Regal 2465 will arrive from Florida to our
boathouse on the Columbia River. The boat has 140 hours on it. It has
never been stored in the water....always lifted out. Here are some
pictures of it.

http://tinyurl.com/ko6uf

The local marina, where it will be delivered to, is trying earnestly to
talk me into getting barrier applied along with bottom paint....roughly
$1400. Horror stories along with years of experience is part of their
speal.

I spoke to Regal, first to customer service, then to a local dealer in
Portland. Both said neither step was necessary. Both claimed that
Regal makes an exceptional hull and that all is required is cleaning
once a year.

I would add that the Columbia never gets above 70 degrees and the
boathouse has some current.

Should I or shouldn' I?

-Greg Schoenberg
Kalama, Wa.

Ps. My wife flew to Florida and personally inspected it, along with a
surveyor. Boat was valued at 35k. We got it for 28k. Shipping,
shrink wrap, marina fees are $4500. The boat will be renamed
to....."She Said Yes."

Need for bottom paint??
 

"dene" wrote in message
ups.com...
Next week, our 2002 Regal 2465 will arrive from Florida to our
boathouse on the Columbia River. The boat has 140 hours on it. It has
never been stored in the water....always lifted out. Here are some
pictures of it.

http://tinyurl.com/ko6uf

The local marina, where it will be delivered to, is trying earnestly to
talk me into getting barrier applied along with bottom paint....roughly
$1400. Horror stories along with years of experience is part of their
speal.

I spoke to Regal, first to customer service, then to a local dealer in
Portland. Both said neither step was necessary. Both claimed that
Regal makes an exceptional hull and that all is required is cleaning
once a year.

I would add that the Columbia never gets above 70 degrees and the
boathouse has some current.

Should I or shouldn' I?

-Greg Schoenberg
Kalama, Wa.

Ps. My wife flew to Florida and personally inspected it, along with a
surveyor. Boat was valued at 35k. We got it for 28k. Shipping,
shrink wrap, marina fees are $4500. The boat will be renamed
to....."She Said Yes."


The local marina was right............Regal was wrong.

If the boat is to be docked at a slip in water, get it epoxy barrier coated
and then bottom painted (do some research on the type recommended for your
conditions).

Need for bottom paint??
 

dene wrote:
Next week, our 2002 Regal 2465 will arrive from Florida to our
boathouse on the Columbia River. The boat has 140 hours on it. It has
never been stored in the water....always lifted out. Here are some
pictures of it.

http://tinyurl.com/ko6uf

The local marina, where it will be delivered to, is trying earnestly to
talk me into getting barrier applied along with bottom paint....roughly
$1400. Horror stories along with years of experience is part of their
speal.

I spoke to Regal, first to customer service, then to a local dealer in
Portland. Both said neither step was necessary. Both claimed that
Regal makes an exceptional hull and that all is required is cleaning
once a year.

I would add that the Columbia never gets above 70 degrees and the
boathouse has some current.

Should I or shouldn' I?

-Greg Schoenberg
Kalama, Wa.

Ps. My wife flew to Florida and personally inspected it, along with a
surveyor. Boat was valued at 35k. We got it for 28k. Shipping,
shrink wrap, marina fees are $4500. The boat will be renamed
to....."She Said Yes."

Boat in cooler water are less likely to get blisters. Regal does make a
good boat. That being said, any DIY can apply 3 or 4 coats of epoxy for
$300-400. Most boats that do not have epoxy paint will eventually get
blisters. It is fairly inexpensive to apply epoxy and bottom paint, but
very expensive and time consuming to repair blisters. As they say, "you
can pay me now, or you can pay me later."

Need for bottom paint??
 

JimH wrote:
"dene" wrote in message
ups.com...
Next week, our 2002 Regal 2465 will arrive from Florida to our
boathouse on the Columbia River. The boat has 140 hours on it. It has
never been stored in the water....always lifted out. Here are some
pictures of it.

http://tinyurl.com/ko6uf

The local marina, where it will be delivered to, is trying earnestly to
talk me into getting barrier applied along with bottom paint....roughly
$1400. Horror stories along with years of experience is part of their
speal.

I spoke to Regal, first to customer service, then to a local dealer in
Portland. Both said neither step was necessary. Both claimed that
Regal makes an exceptional hull and that all is required is cleaning
once a year.

I would add that the Columbia never gets above 70 degrees and the
boathouse has some current.

Should I or shouldn' I?

-Greg Schoenberg
Kalama, Wa.

Ps. My wife flew to Florida and personally inspected it, along with a
surveyor. Boat was valued at 35k. We got it for 28k. Shipping,
shrink wrap, marina fees are $4500. The boat will be renamed
to....."She Said Yes."


The local marina was right............Regal was wrong.

If the boat is to be docked at a slip in water, get it epoxy barrier coated
and then bottom painted (do some research on the type recommended for your
conditions).

BTW: This is definitely a DIY project, provided you are willing to
devote the time. I speak from experience.

Last Spring I barrier coated and bottom painted my 20 footer that was
previously trailer stored. The project (4 coats [2 gallons/kits] of
Interlux Interprotect Epoxy Barrier Coat and a gallon of Interlux
BottomKote cost under $400, including solvents, sandpaper and fine line
tape. The project did, however, require a good amount of my time, a
consideration you have to take into account when comparing DIY vs
marina costs for the project.

You may want to ping Chuck Gould (I believe Seattle is his home port)
as he recently had his boat (a 32+ foot trawler) completely updated,
including stripping the hull and applying new epoxy barrier coating and
bottom paint.

Need for bottom paint??
 

JimH wrote:
JimH wrote:
"dene" wrote in message
ups.com...
Next week, our 2002 Regal 2465 will arrive from Florida to our
boathouse on the Columbia River. The boat has 140 hours on it. It has
never been stored in the water....always lifted out. Here are some
pictures of it.

http://tinyurl.com/ko6uf

The local marina, where it will be delivered to, is trying earnestly to
talk me into getting barrier applied along with bottom paint....roughly
$1400. Horror stories along with years of experience is part of their
speal.

I spoke to Regal, first to customer service, then to a local dealer in
Portland. Both said neither step was necessary. Both claimed that
Regal makes an exceptional hull and that all is required is cleaning
once a year.

I

I would add that the Columbia never gets above 70 degrees and the
boathouse has some current.

Should I or shouldn' I?

-Greg Schoenberg
Kalama, Wa.

Ps. My wife flew to Florida and personally inspected it, along with a
surveyor. Boat was valued at 35k. We got it for 28k. Shipping,
shrink wrap, marina fees are $4500. The boat will be renamed
to....."She Said Yes."


The local marina was right............Regal was wrong.

If the boat is to be docked at a slip in water, get it epoxy barrier coated
and then bottom painted (do some research on the type recommended for your
conditions).

BTW: This is definitely a DIY project, provided you are willing to
devote the time. I speak from experience.

Last Spring I barrier coated and bottom painted my 20 footer that was
previously trailer stored. The project (4 coats [2 gallons/kits] of
Interlux Interprotect Epoxy Barrier Coat and a gallon of Interlux
BottomKote cost under $400, including solvents, sandpaper and fine line
tape. The project did, however, require a good amount of my time, a
consideration you have to take into account when comparing DIY vs
marina costs for the project.

You may want to ping Chuck Gould (I believe Seattle is his home port)
as he recently had his boat (a 32+ foot trawler) completely updated,
including stripping the hull and applying new epoxy barrier coating and
bottom paint.

I say NO BARRIER COAT. However, you really do need anti-fouling.
Use hard epoxy anti-fouling paint that will not oxidize. The hard
epoxy will help protect your bottom from water absorption.

David OHara
Tallahassee, FL

Need for bottom paint??
 

Why not get a lift at your new location?

"dene" wrote in message
ups.com...
Next week, our 2002 Regal 2465 will arrive from Florida to our
boathouse on the Columbia River. The boat has 140 hours on it. It has
never been stored in the water....always lifted out. Here are some
pictures of it.

http://tinyurl.com/ko6uf

The local marina, where it will be delivered to, is trying earnestly to
talk me into getting barrier applied along with bottom paint....roughly
$1400. Horror stories along with years of experience is part of their
speal.

I spoke to Regal, first to customer service, then to a local dealer in
Portland. Both said neither step was necessary. Both claimed that
Regal makes an exceptional hull and that all is required is cleaning
once a year.

I would add that the Columbia never gets above 70 degrees and the
boathouse has some current.

Should I or shouldn' I?

-Greg Schoenberg
Kalama, Wa.

Ps. My wife flew to Florida and personally inspected it, along with a
surveyor. Boat was valued at 35k. We got it for 28k. Shipping,
shrink wrap, marina fees are $4500. The boat will be renamed
to....."She Said Yes."

Need for bottom paint??
 

dene wrote:

Find out of Regal used vinylester resin in the layup. If they did, you
probably don't need a barrier coat.

I don't get down to boat on the Columbia, so I need to ask whether
Kalama is still in the tidal section of the river. If it is, bottom
paint will be particularly important.

If Kalama is further upstream, there probably still isn't enough steady
current to prevent bottom funk from getting a grip.

Do this, and convince yourself one way or the other: Go down to your
new slip, and take a look at the floats and pilings below the
waterline. If you don't find any plants or animals growing on the
pilings, etc, (a very unlikely result of your inspection), you probably
won't collect any hair or mollusks on your hull stored in the same
location. On the other hand, if the local underwater flora and fauna
are hardy enough to live on a scummy old creosote pile they will have
problem migrating to a nice, clean fibergalss hull. In many cases, the
bottom paint isn't so much about keeping stuff from attaching as it is
sloughing stuff off underway.

$1400 is a whole lot of money, even for a boatyard, to charge for
painting a 24-foot boat.
Ask around about "winter specials", it isn't unusual to get bottom
paint in the winter time for
$20-30 a foot, including haulout. Or, pay for the haulout, wreck a set
of clothes, expose yourself to some truly nasty chemicals, and paint it
yourself for maybe $8-10 a foot. Good bottom paint is very expensive.
The labor required to scrape away an entire zoo with a firm grip on a
hull that should have been painted is even more expensive.

Need for bottom paint??
 

Chuck Gould wrote:
dene wrote:

Find out of Regal used vinylester resin in the layup. If they did, you
probably don't need a barrier coat.

Will do!

I don't get down to boat on the Columbia, so I need to ask whether
Kalama is still in the tidal section of the river. If it is, bottom
paint will be particularly important.

If Kalama is further upstream, there probably still isn't enough steady
current to prevent bottom funk from getting a grip.

I should have been more specific. The boat is stored at a fully
enclosed boathouse near Hayden Island. There is no sun exposure and
some current and tidal effect. However, the location is 80 river miles
from the ocean. I live in Kalama, near Longview. Boat is rarely
moored here.

Do this, and convince yourself one way or the other: Go down to your
new slip, and take a look at the floats and pilings below the
waterline. If you don't find any plants or animals growing on the
pilings, etc, (a very unlikely result of your inspection), you probably
won't collect any hair or mollusks on your hull stored in the same
location. On the other hand, if the local underwater flora and fauna
are hardy enough to live on a scummy old creosote pile they will have
problem migrating to a nice, clean fibergalss hull. In many cases, the
bottom paint isn't so much about keeping stuff from attaching as it is
sloughing stuff off underway.

Will do! Thanks!!

$1400 is a whole lot of money, even for a boatyard, to charge for
painting a 24-foot boat.
Ask around about "winter specials", it isn't unusual to get bottom
paint in the winter time for
$20-30 a foot, including haulout. Or, pay for the haulout, wreck a set
of clothes, expose yourself to some truly nasty chemicals, and paint it
yourself for maybe $8-10 a foot. Good bottom paint is very expensive.
The labor required to scrape away an entire zoo with a firm grip on a
hull that should have been painted is even more expensive.

They are touting a premium job. At this point, I'm inclined to go the
winter without and then evaluate when I pull it out for the annual.

Thanks for the advice. Hope to participate more in this forum, after
the election. :

-Greg

Need for bottom paint??
 

James wrote:
Why not get a lift at your new location?

That's an interesting thought. Any ideas where I can start to shop for
one? What type would be suitable for an enclosed boathouse?

-Greg

Need for bottom paint??
 

If the boathouse has enough structural support you can get one similar
to what you had. They also make floating lifts that you drive on and
the use a small compressor to fill with air so they raise the boat.
Don't know how big they go though.

dene wrote:
James wrote:
Why not get a lift at your new location?

That's an interesting thought. Any ideas where I can start to shop for
one? What type would be suitable for an enclosed boathouse?

-Greg