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Default e-tec problems

There is a big difference between the small engine changes and what
they are doing to large 2 strokes. The small two strokes still use a
premixed gas and oil and are still carburated.

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On 31 Oct 2006 06:13:35 -0800, "jamesgangnc"
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As overboard as she goes from a technical perspective I'm inclined to
agree with some of it. To me one of the key things about the basic 2
stroke is it's simplicity. That's pretty much lost on these new 2
strokes. And it does seem that burning oil and reducing emissions are
not exactly compatible. When the motorcycle industry was confronted
with this problem they simply phased out the two strokes from the
street and went all 4 stroke. I don't see any reason not to do the
same with outboards. I know some people complain they are heavier. I
think that will improve with time as volume allows more expensive
lighter weight materials to be incorporated. And 4 strokes by design
have a wider and smoother power band than 2 strokes can.


The trouble with her posts rests in the fact that "figures don't lie,"
but "liars can figure." When one must scour the net in search of data
and then sift through the results deleting facts and figures that
don't support the desired conclusion... we don't end up with much in
the way of reality. I don't care much to dialog (or diatribe, as the
case may be) with someone grinding a personal axe in their own
personal reality.... and that is what her posts regarding anything
vaguely resembling Ficht technology have devolved into.

Personally, I really don't care for these highly computerized
2-strokes and if they go wrong they can *really* go wrong.... but by
now, anybody familiar with boating has heard of these issues and the
informed consumer has acted accordingly.... regarding their personal
comfort level with the technology.

Too many people report trouble free operation to issue blanket
condemnation on the science behind the technology. On the other hand,
IMHO, if you buy a simple mechanical contrivance (an engine, for
example) connected to an array of sensors and a computerized
management system.... it is just a matter of time before you are going
to have big trouble. Its just Murphy's Law.

Personally, I gladly opted for 4-strokes...... and they actually weigh
less than the 2-strokes they replaced. I've never been all that sold
on 2-strokes, anyway.

Don't get me wrong, I'm a two stroke fan. My boat is a v8 but all my
lawn and garden equipment is two stroke. Of course it's not subject to
any regulations yet so it's all still the way two strokes were meant to
be, simple.


Don't bet on that...... if they were produced after 1997....
http://www.epa.gov/otaq/consumer/f98025a.pdf
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