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winterizing mercruiser?
Do I need to drain the block and hoses if I'm using one of those coolant
kits that attaches to the muffs on the outdrive? It would appear not. since it is sucking in the Anti Freeze and will displace any water left in the block. Thanks in advance. David |
winterizing mercruiser?
That's the theory but I don't subscribe to it. For one thing you need
to make sure the thermostat is open and that's hard to do idling in the drive. The merc cooling system thermostat bypasses the block when closed and the incoming raw water goes straight to the exhaust manifolds. The only thing I use the pink stuff for is our jetski. The boat I drain the block, manifolds, and the power steering cooler and leave the plugs out till spring. D&LBusch wrote: Do I need to drain the block and hoses if I'm using one of those coolant kits that attaches to the muffs on the outdrive? It would appear not. since it is sucking in the Anti Freeze and will displace any water left in the block. Thanks in advance. David |
winterizing mercruiser?
On Mon, 30 Oct 2006 03:55:09 GMT, "D&LBusch" wrote:
Do I need to drain the block and hoses if I'm using one of those coolant kits that attaches to the muffs on the outdrive? It would appear not. since it is sucking in the Anti Freeze and will displace any water left in the block. Thanks in advance. David Once the anti-freeze is running out the exhaust, you're good to go. |
winterizing mercruiser?
"JohnH" wrote in message ... On Mon, 30 Oct 2006 03:55:09 GMT, "D&LBusch" wrote: Do I need to drain the block and hoses if I'm using one of those coolant kits that attaches to the muffs on the outdrive? It would appear not. since it is sucking in the Anti Freeze and will displace any water left in the block. Thanks in advance. David Once the anti-freeze is running out the exhaust, you're good to go. Not necessarily so. The cooling system is designed so that the majority of the water that comes in, goes straight to the manifolds and or risers, then out the exhaust. That is true even if the thermostat is wide open, which it almost never is, while idling. The question is: How much of that -50 doo doo do you have to use to displace all of the water in the engine using the engine running, flush method with the "engine winterizing kit". Jim |
winterizing mercruiser?
"D&LBusch" wrote in message ... Do I need to drain the block and hoses if I'm using one of those coolant kits that attaches to the muffs on the outdrive? It would appear not. since it is sucking in the Anti Freeze and will displace any water left in the block. Thanks in advance. David I used that method 2 years ago. I ran the engine above idle for about 10 minutes until the engine temp gauge was a 170F. I then diverted the cooling water to the tank storing the 50/50. I think it took about 3 1/2 gallons of 50/50 before I was confident that it was through the engine so I fogged and stalled it. Lastly I removed the thermostat and poured a gallon of 50/50 down the thermostat housing.....just to make sure. ;-) It was a fairly cold winter and the engine survived just fine. This year I let the marina take care of it and will do so in the future.........too much to lose if you goof up while winterizing the engine yourself. It's not rocket science but why take the chance? |
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D&LBusch wrote:
Do I need to drain the block and hoses if I'm using one of those coolant kits that attaches to the muffs on the outdrive? It would appear not. since it is sucking in the Anti Freeze and will displace any water left in the block. Thanks in advance. David For my I/O & inboard customers, I drain everything, every petcock, and then go w/ 100 percent anti-freeze at the water pump / muffs. There is no way to get ALL the water out of all jackets/manifolds/block, so I get some intermix, to less than 100 percent A/F, and run it until I get a good A/F discharge at the exhaust. Never a failure. Worst case scenario in -30F storage would be a little "slush" in the engine, causing no damage. Rob |
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"trainfan1" wrote in message ... For my I/O & inboard customers, I drain everything, every petcock, and then go w/ 100 percent anti-freeze at the water pump / muffs. There is no way to get ALL the water out of all jackets/manifolds/block, so I get some intermix, to less than 100 percent A/F, and run it until I get a good A/F discharge at the exhaust. Never a failure. Worst case scenario in -30F storage would be a little "slush" in the engine, causing no damage. Rob Obviously you have never met Skipper. If he were here, he'd jump right in and correct you on your method. Eisboch |
winterizing mercruiser?
D&LBusch wrote:
Do I need to drain the block and hoses if I'm using one of those coolant kits that attaches to the muffs on the outdrive? It would appear not. since it is sucking in the Anti Freeze and will displace any water left in the block. Thanks in advance. David We run water through the muffs until the engine gets up to operating temp. Then shut down and drain the risers and block (4 plugs). Then run the "red pop" (you can use the purple stuff if you are way up north) until it is flowing out the exhaust.....takes about 5-6 gallons for a 5.0 mercruiser. Then fog it. Haven't had a problem. The marina service charges about 200 and engine and another 150 to "recommision" in the spring. (they don't run the "red pop" through it,...just drain the lines and pull off the hoses) Total cost is about $30 compared to $700 through the marina. |
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"P Fritz" wrote in message ... D&LBusch wrote: Do I need to drain the block and hoses if I'm using one of those coolant kits that attaches to the muffs on the outdrive? It would appear not. since it is sucking in the Anti Freeze and will displace any water left in the block. Thanks in advance. David what I do is after my motors are warmed I pull the plugs to drain the water and any sediment that you have sucked up. then reinstall the plugs and suck up 5 gal of the pink stuff and fogg then go the extra mile and pull the plugs to drain the pink stuff. I have done this for 8 years in northern Iowa with no problems. |
winterizing mercruiser?
D&LBusch wrote: Do I need to drain the block and hoses if I'm using one of those coolant kits that attaches to the muffs on the outdrive? It would appear not. since it is sucking in the Anti Freeze and will displace any water left in the block. Thanks in advance. David On my 3.0 alpha1, I drain the block via the petcock on the side of the engine, also pull the little brass plug from the bottom of the exhaust manifold and drain it. Then pull the radiator hoses, and dump in the pink stuff untill I see it running out of the block and the manifold. leave them un capped and the hoses off. Then pull the water hose going down to the impeller and flush the pink stuff to it, untill it is draining out of the water intake. I've done that for two years and no problems, even when here in the midwest, we had some "record" sustaining cold. I also pull the battery and put it in the log splitter, where it gets charged and ran quite regularly. |
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"Chad" wrote in message news:eoy1h.216713$FQ1.131175@attbi_s71... "P Fritz" wrote in message ... D&LBusch wrote: Do I need to drain the block and hoses if I'm using one of those coolant kits that attaches to the muffs on the outdrive? It would appear not. since it is sucking in the Anti Freeze and will displace any water left in the block. Thanks in advance. David what I do is after my motors are warmed I pull the plugs to drain the water and any sediment that you have sucked up. then reinstall the plugs and suck up 5 gal of the pink stuff and fogg then go the extra mile and pull the plugs to drain the pink stuff. I have done this for 8 years in northern Iowa with no problems. When it gets cold. I drain the hoses to the heat exchanger and drain the manifold elbow. |
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Calif Bill wrote:
"Chad" wrote in message news:eoy1h.216713$FQ1.131175@attbi_s71... "P Fritz" wrote in message ... D&LBusch wrote: Do I need to drain the block and hoses if I'm using one of those coolant kits that attaches to the muffs on the outdrive? It would appear not. since it is sucking in the Anti Freeze and will displace any water left in the block. Thanks in advance. David what I do is after my motors are warmed I pull the plugs to drain the water and any sediment that you have sucked up. then reinstall the plugs and suck up 5 gal of the pink stuff and fogg then go the extra mile and pull the plugs to drain the pink stuff. I have done this for 8 years in northern Iowa with no problems. When it gets cold. I drain the hoses to the heat exchanger and drain the manifold elbow. Yeah......but cold to you is what? abotu 50? We get to walk on water around here ;-( |
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"P Fritz" wrote in message ... Calif Bill wrote: "Chad" wrote in message news:eoy1h.216713$FQ1.131175@attbi_s71... "P Fritz" wrote in message ... D&LBusch wrote: Do I need to drain the block and hoses if I'm using one of those coolant kits that attaches to the muffs on the outdrive? It would appear not. since it is sucking in the Anti Freeze and will displace any water left in the block. Thanks in advance. David what I do is after my motors are warmed I pull the plugs to drain the water and any sediment that you have sucked up. then reinstall the plugs and suck up 5 gal of the pink stuff and fogg then go the extra mile and pull the plugs to drain the pink stuff. I have done this for 8 years in northern Iowa with no problems. When it gets cold. I drain the hoses to the heat exchanger and drain the manifold elbow. Yeah......but cold to you is what? abotu 50? We get to walk on water around here ;-( No we get down to the 20's sometimes in the winter. A few years ago, buddy lost the engine on his boat to freeze and maybe 20 years ago, big cold snap, prior to Global Warming and I had to run my pool for about 2 weeks 24 hours a day to keep it from freezing thickly. Neighbor below me had a couple of inches of ice. I do get some thing ice islands during the winter. I live over the coastal hills in a small valley (Livermore Valley) and we are colder in the winter and hotter in the summer than the bay side of the hills. The hotter part is why I live on this side of the hills. Grew up 10 blocks from SF bay, and the only swimming pool at a house near me was at the Chancellor of UC Berkeley's house. And the tax payers paid for heating it. |
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