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On Oct 31, 2:32 pm, Brian Nystrom wrote:
Larry C wrote: To respond to Brian. 1. I've had pretty good luck on the whitewater side. Most of the instructors are very competent and pretty good teachers. I'm only certified in SWR, and while I sometimes disagree with subject matter and teach methods with some instructors, I have a lot of respect for the ability of every ACA SWR instructor I've met. I can't comment on the whitewater side of things, since I'm not into it, but I would think that the nature of the activity dictates that to be an instructor, one has to possess significant skills. I expected that on the sea kayaking side, but that doesn't appear to be the case. Apparently, one can be certified as an "open water" instructor without actually paddling on anything other than flat water, unless that's changed in the last three years. Apparently, there is no requirement to demonstrate skills in actual, typical open-water conditions, which is an utterly outrageous situation. In my mind, "open water" means one needs to be able to deal with wind, waves, rocks, surf and other boat traffic. Brian, it's clear that you're no fan of the ACA, and you're not alone, but exactly where do you get the information to back up those outrageous claims? You've met an incompetent instructor? One? Maybe two? Big sample to generalize from. I can tell you from first hand candidate and evaluator experience going back several years that people can and do get denied Open Water and WW certs if they can't perform, and that the standards do require actual performance of the skills. My experience covers canoe, kayak, WW, and Touring, and I've found the bar to be set pretty high. YMMV. Steve |
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