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On 10/28/2006 6:25 AM, Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:





On Sat, 28 Oct 2006 04:02:38 GMT, "Calif Bill"
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If you going to smoke, smoke an Altria brand. Filthy habit, but
I enjoy the dividends.

Filthy habits are drinking to excess and endangering innocent
lives.

I'd be willing to bet that drinking alcohol kills a hell of a lot
more
people than cigars do.


The objection patrons have to others smoking in restaurants has
nothing to do with the health of the smoker, but with the stench
the burning tobacco creates and the health hazards transmitted by
second-hand smoke.

More and more restaurants are converting to total "No Smoking,"
either on their own or because local or state laws dictate it. It's
the smart thing to do.


My dad handled it nicely once in a restaurant. Tables were very
close together. A guy at the next table was smoking a cigar, and the
smoke was basically engulfing our table. It really messes with the
enjoyment of food, so my dad VERY politely asked him if he could
either put it out, or go to the bar, since they were done eating
anyway. The guy just said "No". My dad asked him again, politely.
Again "No". My dad got up, snatched the cigar out of the guy's hand,
dunked it into his water glass, said "Thanks very much", and sat
down. Cigar boy left.

Sure he did.


You were there? Theresa's Restaurant, Glen Cove NY. Probably 1967-ish.

It must be true if you can name a restaurant and a rough time frame.


Yes, it's true. Sorry if your father wasn't able to do what was right
for his family.

Sure, your father is a HERO. Call Time Magazine..


Why do you object to my father's actions?

It was a nice STORY. Let's leave it at that.



No, Dan. It happened. It's a description of a management style you are
unaccustomed to. Some people wait for things to improve. Some people improve
things. If you see a bad situation and say "Oh well - nothing I can do about
it", so be it. I'm sorry you were raised that way. It's pathetic.



Pathetic? If your story had any truth, your dad would have had his ass
kicked. "Cigar boy left."?

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On 10/28/2006 6:25 AM, Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:





On Sat, 28 Oct 2006 04:02:38 GMT, "Calif Bill"
wrote:






If you going to smoke, smoke an Altria brand. Filthy habit,
but I enjoy the dividends.

Filthy habits are drinking to excess and endangering innocent
lives.

I'd be willing to bet that drinking alcohol kills a hell of a
lot more
people than cigars do.


The objection patrons have to others smoking in restaurants has
nothing to do with the health of the smoker, but with the stench
the burning tobacco creates and the health hazards transmitted by
second-hand smoke.

More and more restaurants are converting to total "No Smoking,"
either on their own or because local or state laws dictate it.
It's the smart thing to do.


My dad handled it nicely once in a restaurant. Tables were very
close together. A guy at the next table was smoking a cigar, and
the smoke was basically engulfing our table. It really messes with
the enjoyment of food, so my dad VERY politely asked him if he
could either put it out, or go to the bar, since they were done
eating anyway. The guy just said "No". My dad asked him again,
politely. Again "No". My dad got up, snatched the cigar out of the
guy's hand, dunked it into his water glass, said "Thanks very
much", and sat down. Cigar boy left.

Sure he did.


You were there? Theresa's Restaurant, Glen Cove NY. Probably
1967-ish.

It must be true if you can name a restaurant and a rough time frame.


Yes, it's true. Sorry if your father wasn't able to do what was right
for his family.

Sure, your father is a HERO. Call Time Magazine..


Why do you object to my father's actions?

It was a nice STORY. Let's leave it at that.



No, Dan. It happened. It's a description of a management style you are
unaccustomed to. Some people wait for things to improve. Some people
improve things. If you see a bad situation and say "Oh well - nothing I
can do about it", so be it. I'm sorry you were raised that way. It's
pathetic.

Pathetic? If your story had any truth, your dad would have had his ass
kicked. "Cigar boy left."?

Yah OK. He started boxing in 1943 while serving on an aircraft carrier in
the Pacific. His captain found that disciplining people who hated Jews and
Italians didn't work. He orchestrated a boxing thing, and then looked the
other way as the bigots got beaten to a pulp one by one. The situation
improved. My father continued boxing and teaching the skill until 1959, when
his new job began to consume more of his recreational time. If cigar boy had
started anything, I doubt he would've lasted more than a few seconds, based
on something I saw my father do in a parking lot, when someone said
something unseemly to my mother.

He didn't need to raise a finger to deal with cigar boy. As any skilled
bouncer will tell you, you can get someone to leave using nothing more than
the look in your eye, a posture, and the right words.

If you have any other information about my father that I'm not aware of, I
can't wait to hear it.