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On 10/28/2006 10:35 AM, JimH wrote:

When our kids were young and we went out to eat we would hire a
babysitter. It was a nice escape from the kids for us and we did not
subject the folks in the restaurant to a screaming baby or toddler.



My father expected me to behave properly in a restaurant, so I did.

When you were 2?

Eisboch


What's so odd about that? My son caused no problems in restaurants at
that age. He yacked a lot, but he was rarely loud. No tantrums, no crying
and screaming. But, his nap vs fun schedule was easy to work around. We
knew when he normally got tired & cranky, and tried to avoid taking him
out at those times. Some parents are too dumb to spot the pattern.


Maybe you just did not notice it. When I am in an upscale restaurant for
a later evening meal that is costing me in the range of a $100 I do not
want someone's child inflicted on me. I paid for babysitters when they
were young and there are appropriate places to take you child to for
dinner, but not at 9 pm and the Carnelian room.


If the kid's sounds are no louder than that of the adults, what is the
issue? You don't want to see babies?

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On 10/28/2006 10:35 AM, JimH wrote:

When our kids were young and we went out to eat we would hire a
babysitter. It was a nice escape from the kids for us and we did not
subject the folks in the restaurant to a screaming baby or toddler.



My father expected me to behave properly in a restaurant, so I did.

When you were 2?

Eisboch


What's so odd about that? My son caused no problems in restaurants at
that age. He yacked a lot, but he was rarely loud. No tantrums, no
crying and screaming. But, his nap vs fun schedule was easy to work
around. We knew when he normally got tired & cranky, and tried to avoid
taking him out at those times. Some parents are too dumb to spot the
pattern.


Maybe you just did not notice it. When I am in an upscale restaurant for
a later evening meal that is costing me in the range of a $100 I do not
want someone's child inflicted on me. I paid for babysitters when they
were young and there are appropriate places to take you child to for
dinner, but not at 9 pm and the Carnelian room.


If the kid's sounds are no louder than that of the adults, what is the
issue? You don't want to see babies?


Babies are nice, but their sounds can be much louder and annoying than
adults. Since my kids were not perfect like yours, they got tired and
cranky.

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On 10/28/2006 10:35 AM, JimH wrote:
When our kids were young and we went out to eat we would hire a
babysitter. It was a nice escape from the kids for us and we did not
subject the folks in the restaurant to a screaming baby or toddler.

My father expected me to behave properly in a restaurant, so I did.
When you were 2?

Eisboch

What's so odd about that? My son caused no problems in restaurants at
that age. He yacked a lot, but he was rarely loud. No tantrums, no
crying and screaming. But, his nap vs fun schedule was easy to work
around. We knew when he normally got tired & cranky, and tried to avoid
taking him out at those times. Some parents are too dumb to spot the
pattern.

Maybe you just did not notice it. When I am in an upscale restaurant for
a later evening meal that is costing me in the range of a $100 I do not
want someone's child inflicted on me. I paid for babysitters when they
were young and there are appropriate places to take you child to for
dinner, but not at 9 pm and the Carnelian room.

If the kid's sounds are no louder than that of the adults, what is the
issue? You don't want to see babies?


Babies are nice, but their sounds can be much louder and annoying than
adults. Since my kids were not perfect like yours, they got tired and
cranky.



Damn, imagine that. An infant who is not perfect and behaves like an
infant. Must be an indication of bad parents.

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On 10/28/2006 10:35 AM, JimH wrote:
When our kids were young and we went out to eat we would hire a
babysitter. It was a nice escape from the kids for us and we did
not subject the folks in the restaurant to a screaming baby or
toddler.

My father expected me to behave properly in a restaurant, so I did.
When you were 2?

Eisboch

What's so odd about that? My son caused no problems in restaurants at
that age. He yacked a lot, but he was rarely loud. No tantrums, no
crying and screaming. But, his nap vs fun schedule was easy to work
around. We knew when he normally got tired & cranky, and tried to
avoid taking him out at those times. Some parents are too dumb to spot
the pattern.

Maybe you just did not notice it. When I am in an upscale restaurant
for a later evening meal that is costing me in the range of a $100 I do
not want someone's child inflicted on me. I paid for babysitters when
they were young and there are appropriate places to take you child to
for dinner, but not at 9 pm and the Carnelian room.

If the kid's sounds are no louder than that of the adults, what is the
issue? You don't want to see babies?


Babies are nice, but their sounds can be much louder and annoying than
adults. Since my kids were not perfect like yours, they got tired and
cranky.

Damn, imagine that. An infant who is not perfect and behaves like an
infant. Must be an indication of bad parents.


Nope, infants cause us to not be perfect. We got tired and cranky.

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Babies are nice, but their sounds can be much louder and annoying than
adults.

Those sounds are designed to get an adults attention. There is something
primal about the sound, and it is very difficult to ignore.

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On 10/28/2006 10:35 AM, JimH wrote:

When our kids were young and we went out to eat we would hire a
babysitter. It was a nice escape from the kids for us and we did not
subject the folks in the restaurant to a screaming baby or toddler.



My father expected me to behave properly in a restaurant, so I did.

When you were 2?

Eisboch


What's so odd about that? My son caused no problems in restaurants at
that age. He yacked a lot, but he was rarely loud. No tantrums, no
crying and screaming. But, his nap vs fun schedule was easy to work
around. We knew when he normally got tired & cranky, and tried to avoid
taking him out at those times. Some parents are too dumb to spot the
pattern.


Maybe you just did not notice it. When I am in an upscale restaurant
for a later evening meal that is costing me in the range of a $100 I do
not want someone's child inflicted on me. I paid for babysitters when
they were young and there are appropriate places to take you child to
for dinner, but not at 9 pm and the Carnelian room.


If the kid's sounds are no louder than that of the adults, what is the
issue? You don't want to see babies?


Babies are nice, but their sounds can be much louder and annoying than
adults. Since my kids were not perfect like yours, they got tired and
cranky.

Mine got tired and cranky, but it was like clockwork. If you have all day
Saturday to go grocery shopping, and you KNOW your kid gets nasty at four in
the afternoon, don't take him shopping at that time. Duh.