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Jim, October 22nd 06 02:22 PM

Another towing question
 
I have a 23' Chapperalle. and double axle trailer (total weight est 5000
pounds.) I'd like to tow it up a ramp and into a storage yard then
launch once/year. Ramp is about 20% and maybe 20' long, the yard is
less than 100 yards away.

My vehicle is a Chevy Malibu with a wheezy 4, and the trailer has an
electric winch.

Think if I stayed in Low, and went slow I could do it?

Eisboch October 22nd 06 02:38 PM

Another towing question
 

"Jim," wrote in message
...
I have a 23' Chapperalle. and double axle trailer (total weight est 5000
pounds.) I'd like to tow it up a ramp and into a storage yard then launch
once/year. Ramp is about 20% and maybe 20' long, the yard is less than 100
yards away.

My vehicle is a Chevy Malibu with a wheezy 4, and the trailer has an
electric winch.

Think if I stayed in Low, and went slow I could do it?



What year is it? Does it have a frame and frame mounted receiver type
hitch? If not, you may find your rear bumper on the ground.

I looked up the 2007 Malibu with the 4 banger. Tow capacity is 1000 lbs.
That's a small utility trailer full of leaves.

I'd find a friend with a truck. Your car is designed to *be* towed, not
*to* tow 5000 lbs.

Eisboch



Reginald P. Smithers III October 22nd 06 02:39 PM

Another towing question
 
Jim, wrote:
I have a 23' Chapperalle. and double axle trailer (total weight est 5000
pounds.) I'd like to tow it up a ramp and into a storage yard then
launch once/year. Ramp is about 20% and maybe 20' long, the yard is
less than 100 yards away.

My vehicle is a Chevy Malibu with a wheezy 4, and the trailer has an
electric winch.

Think if I stayed in Low, and went slow I could do it?


I would look for a friend with a pick up truck or rent a pickup truck
twice a year.

Reginald P. Smithers III October 22nd 06 02:48 PM

Another towing question
 
Eisboch wrote:
"Jim," wrote in message
...
I have a 23' Chapperalle. and double axle trailer (total weight est 5000
pounds.) I'd like to tow it up a ramp and into a storage yard then launch
once/year. Ramp is about 20% and maybe 20' long, the yard is less than 100
yards away.

My vehicle is a Chevy Malibu with a wheezy 4, and the trailer has an
electric winch.

Think if I stayed in Low, and went slow I could do it?



What year is it? Does it have a frame and frame mounted receiver type
hitch? If not, you may find your rear bumper on the ground.

I looked up the 2007 Malibu with the 4 banger. Tow capacity is 1000 lbs.
That's a small utility trailer full of leaves.

I'd find a friend with a truck. Your car is designed to *be* towed, not
*to* tow 5000 lbs.

Eisboch



GMTA


Butch Davis October 22nd 06 02:56 PM

Another towing question
 
What the heck, give it try. Worst case is it won't work and you'll be out
the ccost of te hitch.... unless you can put it to use towing a small
utility trailer full of leaves.

Butch
"Reginald P. Smithers III" wrote in message
. ..
Jim, wrote:
I have a 23' Chapperalle. and double axle trailer (total weight est 5000
pounds.) I'd like to tow it up a ramp and into a storage yard then
launch once/year. Ramp is about 20% and maybe 20' long, the yard is less
than 100 yards away.

My vehicle is a Chevy Malibu with a wheezy 4, and the trailer has an
electric winch.

Think if I stayed in Low, and went slow I could do it?


I would look for a friend with a pick up truck or rent a pickup truck
twice a year.




Reginald P. Smithers III October 22nd 06 03:06 PM

Another towing question
 
Butch Davis wrote:
What the heck, give it try. Worst case is it won't work and you'll be out
the ccost of te hitch.... unless you can put it to use towing a small
utility trailer full of leaves.

Butch
"Reginald P. Smithers III" wrote in message
. ..
Jim, wrote:
I have a 23' Chapperalle. and double axle trailer (total weight est 5000
pounds.) I'd like to tow it up a ramp and into a storage yard then
launch once/year. Ramp is about 20% and maybe 20' long, the yard is less
than 100 yards away.

My vehicle is a Chevy Malibu with a wheezy 4, and the trailer has an
electric winch.

Think if I stayed in Low, and went slow I could do it?

I would look for a friend with a pick up truck or rent a pickup truck
twice a year.




I would be concerned about damage to the transmission, even if towing a
short distance. As Eisboch pointed out, if the tow bar is not attached
to the frame, you can end up ripping the tow bar off the car. A Malibu
4 banger is not built to tow 5000 lbs.


Don White October 22nd 06 03:07 PM

Another towing question
 
Jim, wrote:
I have a 23' Chapperalle. and double axle trailer (total weight est 5000
pounds.) I'd like to tow it up a ramp and into a storage yard then
launch once/year. Ramp is about 20% and maybe 20' long, the yard is
less than 100 yards away.

My vehicle is a Chevy Malibu with a wheezy 4, and the trailer has an
electric winch.

Think if I stayed in Low, and went slow I could do it?



Pay someone to launch/pull it out. Lots cheaper than replacing
transmission.

Don White October 22nd 06 03:08 PM

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Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:
Jim, wrote:

I have a 23' Chapperalle. and double axle trailer (total weight est
5000 pounds.) I'd like to tow it up a ramp and into a storage yard
then launch once/year. Ramp is about 20% and maybe 20' long, the yard
is less than 100 yards away.

My vehicle is a Chevy Malibu with a wheezy 4, and the trailer has an
electric winch.

Think if I stayed in Low, and went slow I could do it?



I would look for a friend with a pick up truck or rent a pickup truck
twice a year.



Rental pickups here only have the 'bumper hitch' rated for 2000 lbs.

Reginald P. Smithers III October 22nd 06 03:39 PM

Another towing question
 
Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Sun, 22 Oct 2006 10:06:10 -0400, "Reginald P. Smithers III"
wrote:

Butch Davis wrote:
What the heck, give it try. Worst case is it won't work and you'll be out
the ccost of te hitch.... unless you can put it to use towing a small
utility trailer full of leaves.

Butch
"Reginald P. Smithers III" wrote in message
. ..
Jim, wrote:
I have a 23' Chapperalle. and double axle trailer (total weight est 5000
pounds.) I'd like to tow it up a ramp and into a storage yard then
launch once/year. Ramp is about 20% and maybe 20' long, the yard is less
than 100 yards away.

My vehicle is a Chevy Malibu with a wheezy 4, and the trailer has an
electric winch.

Think if I stayed in Low, and went slow I could do it?
I would look for a friend with a pick up truck or rent a pickup truck
twice a year.

I would be concerned about damage to the transmission, even if towing a
short distance. As Eisboch pointed out, if the tow bar is not attached
to the frame, you can end up ripping the tow bar off the car. A Malibu
4 banger is not built to tow 5000 lbs.


Yeah, but it will make for one hell of a story. :)


The best stories are always expensive mistakes.






Reginald P. Smithers III October 22nd 06 03:42 PM

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Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Sun, 22 Oct 2006 14:08:32 GMT, Don White
wrote:

Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:
Jim, wrote:

I have a 23' Chapperalle. and double axle trailer (total weight est
5000 pounds.) I'd like to tow it up a ramp and into a storage yard
then launch once/year. Ramp is about 20% and maybe 20' long, the yard
is less than 100 yards away.

My vehicle is a Chevy Malibu with a wheezy 4, and the trailer has an
electric winch.

Think if I stayed in Low, and went slow I could do it?

I would look for a friend with a pick up truck or rent a pickup truck
twice a year.

Rental pickups here only have the 'bumper hitch' rated for 2000 lbs.


Really? No F-150s for rent?


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I have one explanation. He lives in Canada. ;)


Eisboch October 22nd 06 03:57 PM

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"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 22 Oct 2006 09:38:00 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:

Tow capacity is 1000 lbs. That's a small utility trailer full of leaves.


I started here and spilled my Diet Pepsi.

Your car is designed to *be* towed, not *to* tow 5000 lbs.


LOL!!!


Actually, I didn't mean to insult his car. It just happens to be one of the
models that are popular with the RV crowd and they use them as their towable
"toads".

Eisboch



Don White October 22nd 06 04:40 PM

Another towing question
 
Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Sun, 22 Oct 2006 14:08:32 GMT, Don White
wrote:


Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:

Jim, wrote:


I have a 23' Chapperalle. and double axle trailer (total weight est
5000 pounds.) I'd like to tow it up a ramp and into a storage yard
then launch once/year. Ramp is about 20% and maybe 20' long, the yard
is less than 100 yards away.

My vehicle is a Chevy Malibu with a wheezy 4, and the trailer has an
electric winch.

Think if I stayed in Low, and went slow I could do it?


I would look for a friend with a pick up truck or rent a pickup truck
twice a year.


Rental pickups here only have the 'bumper hitch' rated for 2000 lbs.



Really? No F-150s for rent?



Ranger step bumper only rated for 2000 lbs and 200lb tongue weight...
I assumed F150/GMG/Chev/Dodge full size the same.

Don White October 22nd 06 04:40 PM

Another towing question
 
Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:

I have one explanation. He lives in Canada. ;)


...and proud of it!

Don White October 22nd 06 04:41 PM

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Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Sun, 22 Oct 2006 10:42:37 -0400, "Reginald P. Smithers III"
wrote:


Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:

On Sun, 22 Oct 2006 14:08:32 GMT, Don White
wrote:


Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:

Jim, wrote:


I have a 23' Chapperalle. and double axle trailer (total weight est
5000 pounds.) I'd like to tow it up a ramp and into a storage yard
then launch once/year. Ramp is about 20% and maybe 20' long, the yard
is less than 100 yards away.

My vehicle is a Chevy Malibu with a wheezy 4, and the trailer has an
electric winch.

Think if I stayed in Low, and went slow I could do it?


I would look for a friend with a pick up truck or rent a pickup truck
twice a year.

Rental pickups here only have the 'bumper hitch' rated for 2000 lbs.

Really? No F-150s for rent?


I have one explanation. He lives in Canada. ;)



I like their National Anthem.



English or French part?

Reginald P. Smithers III October 22nd 06 04:44 PM

Another towing question
 
Don White wrote:
Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Sun, 22 Oct 2006 14:08:32 GMT, Don White
wrote:


Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:

Jim, wrote:


I have a 23' Chapperalle. and double axle trailer (total weight est
5000 pounds.) I'd like to tow it up a ramp and into a storage yard
then launch once/year. Ramp is about 20% and maybe 20' long, the
yard is less than 100 yards away.

My vehicle is a Chevy Malibu with a wheezy 4, and the trailer has
an electric winch.

Think if I stayed in Low, and went slow I could do it?


I would look for a friend with a pick up truck or rent a pickup
truck twice a year.

Rental pickups here only have the 'bumper hitch' rated for 2000 lbs.



Really? No F-150s for rent?



Ranger step bumper only rated for 2000 lbs and 200lb tongue weight...
I assumed F150/GMG/Chev/Dodge full size the same.


Don,
Why don't Canadians mount their tow bars onto the frame? ;)

Why would anyone use a bumper hitch on a F150?

Reginald P. Smithers III October 22nd 06 04:49 PM

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Don White wrote:
Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:

I have one explanation. He lives in Canada. ;)


..and proud of it!


But you guys don't know how to mount a trailer hitch on a F150. You
should be ashamed of your countrymen. ;)


Bill Andersen October 22nd 06 05:46 PM

Another towing question
 
Curious that the original poster mentioned leaving it in low; does anyone
think it would actually get a chance to shift into any other gear, if it
could pull that load, in a distance of only 100 yards?

"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 22 Oct 2006 13:22:52 GMT, "Jim," wrote:

I have a 23' Chapperalle. and double axle trailer (total weight est 5000
pounds.) I'd like to tow it up a ramp and into a storage yard then
launch once/year. Ramp is about 20% and maybe 20' long, the yard is
less than 100 yards away.

My vehicle is a Chevy Malibu with a wheezy 4, and the trailer has an
electric winch.

Think if I stayed in Low, and went slow I could do it?


I can't add anything to what others have already said.

This is not a good idea.


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Disclaimer: This is a boating post and applies to boaters. It is not
intended to provoke, annoy, irritate, bother, aggravate, anger,incite,
inflame, infuriate or create controversy resulting in unacceptable
behavior on the part of other posters nor is it intended to generate
political commentary or off-topic debate.




Don White October 22nd 06 06:46 PM

Another towing question
 
Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:
Don White wrote:

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:

On Sun, 22 Oct 2006 14:08:32 GMT, Don White
wrote:


Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:

Jim, wrote:


I have a 23' Chapperalle. and double axle trailer (total weight
est 5000 pounds.) I'd like to tow it up a ramp and into a storage
yard then launch once/year. Ramp is about 20% and maybe 20' long,
the yard is less than 100 yards away.

My vehicle is a Chevy Malibu with a wheezy 4, and the trailer has
an electric winch.

Think if I stayed in Low, and went slow I could do it?



I would look for a friend with a pick up truck or rent a pickup
truck twice a year.


Rental pickups here only have the 'bumper hitch' rated for 2000 lbs.



Really? No F-150s for rent?



Ranger step bumper only rated for 2000 lbs and 200lb tongue weight...
I assumed F150/GMG/Chev/Dodge full size the same.



Don,
Why don't Canadians mount their tow bars onto the frame? ;)

Why would anyone use a bumper hitch on a F150?


I thought we were talkin' about rental trucks. Y'all may be rich enough
to spend $200.00 to mount a hitch on a one time rental, but we're much
more frugal up here.
Having said that, I did spend the $200 to put a Class 2 frame mounted
hitch on my *3 year lease* Ranger pickup.

Don White October 22nd 06 06:49 PM

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Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:


But you guys don't know how to mount a trailer hitch on a F150. You
should be ashamed of your countrymen. ;)


We could show you a thing or two about mounting!

Wayne.B October 22nd 06 07:09 PM

Another towing question
 
On Sun, 22 Oct 2006 10:31:30 -0400, Harry Krause
wrote:

If the ramp is wet, or covered in green slime, you, the boat, the
trailer and your Chevy are likely to slide into the drink.


And if you cause an accident it could be viewed as negligence on your
part.


Calif Bill October 22nd 06 07:15 PM

Another towing question
 

"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 22 Oct 2006 10:39:16 -0400, "Reginald P. Smithers III"
wrote:

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Sun, 22 Oct 2006 10:06:10 -0400, "Reginald P. Smithers III"
wrote:

Butch Davis wrote:
What the heck, give it try. Worst case is it won't work and you'll be
out
the ccost of te hitch.... unless you can put it to use towing a small
utility trailer full of leaves.

Butch
"Reginald P. Smithers III" wrote in message
. ..
Jim, wrote:
I have a 23' Chapperalle. and double axle trailer (total weight est
5000
pounds.) I'd like to tow it up a ramp and into a storage yard then
launch once/year. Ramp is about 20% and maybe 20' long, the yard is
less
than 100 yards away.

My vehicle is a Chevy Malibu with a wheezy 4, and the trailer has an
electric winch.

Think if I stayed in Low, and went slow I could do it?
I would look for a friend with a pick up truck or rent a pickup truck
twice a year.

I would be concerned about damage to the transmission, even if towing a
short distance. As Eisboch pointed out, if the tow bar is not attached
to the frame, you can end up ripping the tow bar off the car. A Malibu
4 banger is not built to tow 5000 lbs.

Yeah, but it will make for one hell of a story. :)


The best stories are always expensive mistakes.


Tell me about it...

Did I ever tell you... :)
--

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Disclaimer: This is a boating post and applies to boaters. It is not
intended to provoke, annoy, irritate, bother, aggravate, anger,incite,
inflame, infuriate or create controversy resulting in unacceptable
behavior on the part of other posters nor is it intended to generate
political commentary or off-topic debate.


Funniest towing incident I ever saw, happened at least 40 years ago. I am
towing my race car back from Cotati Raceway, and next to US 101 in Marin
county is the CHP talking to some poor guy. He has one of those old clamp
to the bumper trailer hitches, and a U-haul trailer that is about 6x10 with
a pipe handrail. The trailer has to have several tons of big moss rocks in
it. It has torn the hitch loose from the bumber, leaving 4 nice slots, and
the hand rail on the trailer has hooked the end of the Armco barrier next to
the road and wrapped the trailer like an old sardine can opening strip.
Would not have been as funny with injuries.



Calif Bill October 22nd 06 07:16 PM

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"Don White" wrote in message
...
Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:

I have one explanation. He lives in Canada. ;)


..and proud of it!


But do not say anything that can be construed as homophobic. Jail time.



Calif Bill October 22nd 06 07:17 PM

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"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 22 Oct 2006 13:22:52 GMT, "Jim," wrote:

I have a 23' Chapperalle. and double axle trailer (total weight est 5000
pounds.) I'd like to tow it up a ramp and into a storage yard then
launch once/year. Ramp is about 20% and maybe 20' long, the yard is
less than 100 yards away.

My vehicle is a Chevy Malibu with a wheezy 4, and the trailer has an
electric winch.

Think if I stayed in Low, and went slow I could do it?


I can't add anything to what others have already said.

This is not a good idea.


----------------
Disclaimer: This is a boating post and applies to boaters. It is not
intended to provoke, annoy, irritate, bother, aggravate, anger,incite,
inflame, infuriate or create controversy resulting in unacceptable
behavior on the part of other posters nor is it intended to generate
political commentary or off-topic debate.


Maybe a Geo Metro would be better.



Reginald P. Smithers III October 22nd 06 08:29 PM

Another towing question
 
Don White wrote:
Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:
Don White wrote:

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:

On Sun, 22 Oct 2006 14:08:32 GMT, Don White
wrote:


Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:

Jim, wrote:


I have a 23' Chapperalle. and double axle trailer (total weight
est 5000 pounds.) I'd like to tow it up a ramp and into a
storage yard then launch once/year. Ramp is about 20% and maybe
20' long, the yard is less than 100 yards away.

My vehicle is a Chevy Malibu with a wheezy 4, and the trailer has
an electric winch.

Think if I stayed in Low, and went slow I could do it?



I would look for a friend with a pick up truck or rent a pickup
truck twice a year.


Rental pickups here only have the 'bumper hitch' rated for 2000 lbs.



Really? No F-150s for rent?



Ranger step bumper only rated for 2000 lbs and 200lb tongue weight...
I assumed F150/GMG/Chev/Dodge full size the same.



Don,
Why don't Canadians mount their tow bars onto the frame? ;)

Why would anyone use a bumper hitch on a F150?


I thought we were talkin' about rental trucks. Y'all may be rich enough
to spend $200.00 to mount a hitch on a one time rental, but we're much
more frugal up here.
Having said that, I did spend the $200 to put a Class 2 frame mounted
hitch on my *3 year lease* Ranger pickup.


My suggestion is to rent a pickup truck with the hitch already mounted
to the frame. I guess if that is available in Halifax you are not aware
of it. It really isn't unusual in the US.

Stanley Barthfarkle October 22nd 06 09:02 PM

Another towing question
 
I have a 23' Chapperalle. and double axle trailer (total weight est 5000
pounds.) I'd like to tow it up a ramp and into a storage yard then launch
once/year. Ramp is about 20% and maybe 20' long, the yard is less than 100
yards away.

My vehicle is a Chevy Malibu with a wheezy 4, and the trailer has an
electric winch.

Think if I stayed in Low, and went slow I could do it?




Absolutely. If you stay very low, you will be dragged into the lake slowly
enough to be able to escape before the car sinks and sinks the boat and
trailer.



James October 22nd 06 09:10 PM

Another towing question
 
The problem will be in finding a frame mount hitch that can handle something
close to enough weight. If you can find one then if the car will pull it up
the ramp you can do it. As long as you're just in the yard going a few
miles an hour.

"Jim," wrote in message
...
I have a 23' Chapperalle. and double axle trailer (total weight est 5000
pounds.) I'd like to tow it up a ramp and into a storage yard then launch
once/year. Ramp is about 20% and maybe 20' long, the yard is less than 100
yards away.

My vehicle is a Chevy Malibu with a wheezy 4, and the trailer has an
electric winch.

Think if I stayed in Low, and went slow I could do it?




Eisboch October 22nd 06 09:43 PM

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"James" wrote in message
link.net...

The problem will be in finding a frame mount hitch that can handle
something close to enough weight.


What frame?

Eisboch



Calif Bill October 22nd 06 11:04 PM

Another towing question
 

"Eisboch" wrote in message
...

"James" wrote in message
link.net...

The problem will be in finding a frame mount hitch that can handle
something close to enough weight.


What frame?

Eisboch


On my 1968 Charger I had to build some plates to sandwich the "frame" to
attach a receiver hitch.



Eisboch October 22nd 06 11:28 PM

Another towing question
 

"Calif Bill" wrote in message
link.net...

"Eisboch" wrote in message
...

"James" wrote in message
link.net...

The problem will be in finding a frame mount hitch that can handle
something close to enough weight.


What frame?

Eisboch


On my 1968 Charger I had to build some plates to sandwich the "frame" to
attach a receiver hitch.


Your '68 Charger *had* a frame. Most new cars don't. I think the last
full-framed big car is (was) the Ford, Mercury and Lincoln towncars that are
being phased out.

Eisboch



Butch Davis October 23rd 06 12:28 AM

Another towing question
 
What the heck, I still think it's worth a try. Think of the fun involved...
and it might just work out OK. Where's your sense of adventure.... on the
other guy's money?

Butch
"Eisboch" wrote in message
...

"Calif Bill" wrote in message
link.net...

"Eisboch" wrote in message
...

"James" wrote in message
link.net...

The problem will be in finding a frame mount hitch that can handle
something close to enough weight.

What frame?

Eisboch


On my 1968 Charger I had to build some plates to sandwich the "frame" to
attach a receiver hitch.


Your '68 Charger *had* a frame. Most new cars don't. I think the last
full-framed big car is (was) the Ford, Mercury and Lincoln towncars that
are being phased out.

Eisboch




Calif Bill October 23rd 06 12:34 AM

Another towing question
 

"Eisboch" wrote in message
...

"Calif Bill" wrote in message
link.net...

"Eisboch" wrote in message
...

"James" wrote in message
link.net...

The problem will be in finding a frame mount hitch that can handle
something close to enough weight.

What frame?

Eisboch


On my 1968 Charger I had to build some plates to sandwich the "frame" to
attach a receiver hitch.


Your '68 Charger *had* a frame. Most new cars don't. I think the last
full-framed big car is (was) the Ford, Mercury and Lincoln towncars that
are being phased out.

Eisboch


Notice the quotes? Unitbody frame and I build a sandwich of steel plates to
spread the load.



Eisboch October 23rd 06 12:51 AM

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"Calif Bill" wrote in message
hlink.net...

"Eisboch" wrote in message
...

"Calif Bill" wrote in message
link.net...

"Eisboch" wrote in message
...

"James" wrote in message
link.net...

The problem will be in finding a frame mount hitch that can handle
something close to enough weight.

What frame?

Eisboch


On my 1968 Charger I had to build some plates to sandwich the "frame" to
attach a receiver hitch.


Your '68 Charger *had* a frame. Most new cars don't. I think the last
full-framed big car is (was) the Ford, Mercury and Lincoln towncars that
are being phased out.

Eisboch


Notice the quotes? Unitbody frame and I build a sandwich of steel plates
to spread the load.


Hafta go check .... be right back.

Eisboch



Eisboch October 23rd 06 12:53 AM

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"Butch Davis" wrote in message
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What the heck, I still think it's worth a try. Think of the fun
involved... and it might just work out OK. Where's your sense of
adventure.... on the other guy's money?

Butch


We could sell tickets to witness his first attempt. Ramp shows are always a
lot of fun.

Eisboch



Eisboch October 23rd 06 01:13 AM

Another towing question
 

"Eisboch" wrote in message
...

"Calif Bill" wrote in message
hlink.net...


On my 1968 Charger I had to build some plates to sandwich the "frame"
to attach a receiver hitch.


Your '68 Charger *had* a frame. Most new cars don't. I think the last
full-framed big car is (was) the Ford, Mercury and Lincoln towncars that
are being phased out.

Eisboch


Notice the quotes? Unitbody frame and I build a sandwich of steel plates
to spread the load.


Hafta go check .... be right back.

Eisboch


I see what you mean. It has a frame of sorts ... but not like a real, full
frame. Sorta ends before it gets to the back. Took some pictures but the
underside of the Lee is rough. No rot, but it has not been restored yet.

Eisboch



James Sweet October 23rd 06 04:08 AM

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Jim, wrote:
I have a 23' Chapperalle. and double axle trailer (total weight est 5000
pounds.) I'd like to tow it up a ramp and into a storage yard then
launch once/year. Ramp is about 20% and maybe 20' long, the yard is
less than 100 yards away.

My vehicle is a Chevy Malibu with a wheezy 4, and the trailer has an
electric winch.

Think if I stayed in Low, and went slow I could do it?



While you can usually get away with substantially over the rated towing
capacity for something short like that, I suspect 5,000 lbs is WAY more
than that car should tow, you may well end up with the rear bumper
scraping on the ground or the hitch broken off just from the tongue
weight. If that doesn't happen the trailer and boat could easily pull
the car back into the water, there's no way that car weighs anywhere
near 5,000 lbs, probably more like half that.

With a sufficiently large and sturdy vehicle, a little 4 cylinder could
do it, but power is only a small portion of the equation.

Got any friends with a truck?

James Sweet October 23rd 06 04:11 AM

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Don,
Why don't Canadians mount their tow bars onto the frame? ;)

Why would anyone use a bumper hitch on a F150?



I don't know why anyone would use a bumper hitch on anything, I don't
even think they're legal in a lot of areas.

Calif Bill October 23rd 06 06:26 AM

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"Eisboch" wrote in message
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"Eisboch" wrote in message
...

"Calif Bill" wrote in message
hlink.net...


On my 1968 Charger I had to build some plates to sandwich the "frame"
to attach a receiver hitch.


Your '68 Charger *had* a frame. Most new cars don't. I think the last
full-framed big car is (was) the Ford, Mercury and Lincoln towncars
that are being phased out.

Eisboch


Notice the quotes? Unitbody frame and I build a sandwich of steel
plates to spread the load.


Hafta go check .... be right back.

Eisboch


I see what you mean. It has a frame of sorts ... but not like a real,
full frame. Sorta ends before it gets to the back. Took some pictures
but the underside of the Lee is rough. No rot, but it has not been
restored yet.

Eisboch


Actually built some narrow plates to go inside the folded sheetmetal frame.
Can not exactly remember how I did it. But towed a 2800# vette on a tandem
trailer with spare wheels. Worst part of the beautiful POS was the lack of
brakes 10" drums, and lack of radiator size. Could not use the AC on real
hot days.



Eisboch October 23rd 06 10:13 AM

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"Calif Bill" wrote in message
link.net...



Actually built some narrow plates to go inside the folded sheetmetal
frame. Can not exactly remember how I did it. But towed a 2800# vette on
a tandem trailer with spare wheels. Worst part of the beautiful POS was
the lack of brakes 10" drums, and lack of radiator size. Could not use
the AC on real hot days.


Don't know about the '68 models but in '69 the R/T's that had either the 426
or the 440 HO had disks on the front and an oversized, 26" radiator. They
were part of what was called the "Hemi Package". The brakes were the most
difficult items to get when we were re-doing the front end. They are big,
four piston caliper types that are very hard to find and few shops can get
parts to rebuild them. I had called Smith Bros. Restorations who
recommended upgrading everything ... rotors, spindles and calipers to those
from the readily available 1970 and later models that were two piston types.
We lucked out though after six weeks of searching found a new set of
rotors, four piston calipers and pads of the original type. Got them from a
small, off the wall garage in Georgia.

Eisboch




[email protected] October 24th 06 03:49 AM

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Cripes, man!

The boat rig weighs about as much as the car!

The frame of the boat trailer is stronger than the frame of the car.
Woah! Wait a second. The car HAS NO FRAME! well, maybe a "sub" frame,
but doing what you want to do is not a good idea.

My 18 ft. ChrisCraft is on a single axle frame, and I pull it behind a
302 v-8 powered '89 Mercury Grand Marquis.

At least it has some power, and a full frame, and some brakes.


you should really reconsider what you're planning.



Jim, wrote:
I have a 23' Chapperalle. and double axle trailer (total weight est 5000
pounds.) I'd like to tow it up a ramp and into a storage yard then
launch once/year. Ramp is about 20% and maybe 20' long, the yard is
less than 100 yards away.

My vehicle is a Chevy Malibu with a wheezy 4, and the trailer has an
electric winch.

Think if I stayed in Low, and went slow I could do it?



JR North October 24th 06 04:22 AM

Another towing question
 
Of the 4, Only the driver counts as a potential loss.
JR

Harry Krause wrote:


If the ramp is wet, or covered in green slime, you, the boat, the
trailer and your Chevy are likely to slide into the drink.



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