OT So Chuck is now Supreme Ruler of Rec.boats
 

"JohnH" wrote in message
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On 18 Oct 2006 09:04:09 -0700, "Chuck Gould"
wrote:


basskisser wrote:
I see that Chuck has taken it upon himself to appoint himself as
Extreme Ruler and Grand Poobah of rec.boats. Now if anyone attempts to
post something that he, and he only deems not worthy of his eyes, he
takes it upon himself to change the subject to something stupid. How
does everyone else feel about that? Do you need someone to proofread
your posts, and edit the subject line for you? I don't. I can damned
well choose what I want to read by myself.

You may be smart enough to choose what you want to read, all by
yourself, but you must be too dam* dumb to know how to navigate to the
appropriate newsgroups to post your political nonsense.

There is no ruler or poohbah at rec.boats. This is a group organized so
people can get together on the net and discuss boats, boating, and
boating related topics. Imagine a few guys hanging out at a waterfront
coffee shop to discuss boats. Along comes some jerk who
jumps into the middle of he conversation and says, "Hey, what do you
think about those terrorist-sympathizing, Clinton appointed Democratic
judges?" or "Look what the Idiot In Chief wants to do next in Iraq!"

Some of the guys gathered to discuss boats would be polite enough to
keep their mouths shut and endure the annoying jerk, for at least a
while. Others aren't so polite, or so patient.

Ask yourself this, as you swoon over your self centered reflection in
the nearest available mirror. What is worse? Changing the header on a
single topic, or trying to fu*k up the newsgroup? Despite owning some
little skiff and going fishing once in a while, you seldom express any
interest in boating related topics. You're far more interested in
GD'ing
George Bush and stirring up political nonsense than in talking boats,
so the obvious question is: Why the hell don't you take your political
garbage off to some newsgroup or discussion group organized for that
purpose?

You shouldn't be surprised when boaters get ****ed off at non boaters
trying to turn the boating discussion group into a political campaign
platform. For either side.

But if you keep practicing your outrageous and inconsiderate behavior,
don't be surprised when once in a while one of the boaters calls you to
task for it. A few others who know darn well who they are can expect
the same as well.

So, what's worse? Changing the header on a post or raising your middle
finger to the basic purposes for which a group has gathered and
insisting that you *should* be allowed your daily political rant and
name-calling marathons? You life must be one empty place if you have to
post ridiculously off topic political stuff to a boating NG just to
fill the time.

How does it feel to be the annoyed, instead of the one annoying, for a
change?

Putting killfilters on basskisser and JimH has greatly cut down on the
number of original headers I see from them, and I've found I've not missed
much.

You continue to spend your time naming me in your posts. When was the last
*on topic* post you made John? ;-)

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Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:
basskisser wrote:
Chuck Gould wrote:
basskisser wrote:
I see that Chuck has taken it upon himself to appoint himself as
Extreme Ruler and Grand Poobah of rec.boats. Now if anyone attempts to
post something that he, and he only deems not worthy of his eyes, he
takes it upon himself to change the subject to something stupid. How
does everyone else feel about that? Do you need someone to proofread
your posts, and edit the subject line for you? I don't. I can damned
well choose what I want to read by myself.
You may be smart enough to choose what you want to read, all by
yourself, but you must be too dam* dumb to know how to navigate to the
appropriate newsgroups to post your political nonsense.

There is no ruler or poohbah at rec.boats. This is a group organized so
people can get together on the net and discuss boats, boating, and
boating related topics. Imagine a few guys hanging out at a waterfront
coffee shop to discuss boats. Along comes some jerk who
jumps into the middle of he conversation and says, "Hey, what do you
think about those terrorist-sympathizing, Clinton appointed Democratic
judges?" or "Look what the Idiot In Chief wants to do next in Iraq!"

Some of the guys gathered to discuss boats would be polite enough to
keep their mouths shut and endure the annoying jerk, for at least a
while. Others aren't so polite, or so patient.

Ask yourself this, as you swoon over your self centered reflection in
the nearest available mirror. What is worse? Changing the header on a
single topic, or trying to fu*k up the newsgroup? Despite owning some
little skiff and going fishing once in a while, you seldom express any
interest in boating related topics. You're far more interested in
GD'ing
George Bush and stirring up political nonsense than in talking boats,
so the obvious question is: Why the hell don't you take your political
garbage off to some newsgroup or discussion group organized for that
purpose?

You shouldn't be surprised when boaters get ****ed off at non boaters
trying to turn the boating discussion group into a political campaign
platform. For either side.

But if you keep practicing your outrageous and inconsiderate behavior,
don't be surprised when once in a while one of the boaters calls you to
task for it. A few others who know darn well who they are can expect
the same as well.

So, what's worse? Changing the header on a post or raising your middle
finger to the basic purposes for which a group has gathered and
insisting that you *should* be allowed your daily political rant and
name-calling marathons? You life must be one empty place if you have to
post ridiculously off topic political stuff to a boating NG just to
fill the time.

How does it feel to be the annoyed, instead of the one annoying, for a
change?

I find it amusing how you pick and choose off topic posts to **** on,
Chuck. How come SOME here can post off topic, political flame fests and
you don't do a damned thing about it, then someone else does it, and
you instantly put on your paper hat and play god of rec.boats? Perhaps
you should get off of your high horse. YOU post off topic, also, and
YOU participate in off topic posts. Do you find yourself annoying? As
for your statement that my life must be "one empty place"... YOU used
to be one of the top producers of off topic political posts, was YOUR
life "one empty place"? Further, to take the task of deciding who's off
topic political posts gets past your Grand Poobah eye of approval and
who's doesn't, then writing a 100 line disseration on it would leave
one to believe YOUR life is "one empty place".....


Bass,

You did ask for people's opinion.

Chuck gave you his opinion.

If you don't care for his opinion, ignore his posts.

But, have you ever thought of subscribing to some political NG's and
post political posts there, and post boating posts in rec.boats? That
way you could make as many political posts as you wanted, no one would
bitch about it, and you would be contributing to making rec.boats a fun
place to discuss boating topics.

Don't you agree that silly name calling can get very old very fast?

Again, you are failing to get the point. It wouldn't be so bad, if
Chuck ruled his rec.boats kingdom with an even hand. The trouble is, he
doesn't. If it's one of his buds, life is good, they can post whatever
whenever. If not, then you instantly get ****ed on.

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basskisser wrote:
on't you agree that silly name calling can get very old very fast?

Again, you are failing to get the point. It wouldn't be so bad, if
Chuck ruled his rec.boats kingdom with an even hand. The trouble is, he
doesn't. If it's one of his buds, life is good, they can post whatever
whenever. If not, then you instantly get ****ed on.

I disagree with your assesment, for almost a year Chuck has been
emphasizing the importance of keeping the inflamatory posts out of the
NG, without any bias. He does have a tendency to highlight those who
seem to be contributing the greatest noise to signal ratio, but does not
have a list of "buds".

What do you think about posting political post, in a political NG and
using rec.boats to discuss boats and non inflamatory posts? You and I
both know that politics and religion in rec.boats will always end up in
a long boring flamefest.

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Harry Krause wrote:
On 10/18/2006 3:20 PM, Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:

.

(Netcop crap)

Yep! The netcopping results in more arguing than the OT
posts.........always!

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Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:
basskisser wrote:
on't you agree that silly name calling can get very old very fast?

Again, you are failing to get the point. It wouldn't be so bad, if
Chuck ruled his rec.boats kingdom with an even hand. The trouble is, he
doesn't. If it's one of his buds, life is good, they can post whatever
whenever. If not, then you instantly get ****ed on.

I disagree with your assesment, for almost a year Chuck has been
emphasizing the importance of keeping the inflamatory posts out of the
NG, without any bias. He does have a tendency to highlight those who
seem to be contributing the greatest noise to signal ratio, but does not
have a list of "buds".

I call bull****. Look at how many off topic posts Tom posts. Now look
at how many off topic posts from Tom that Chuck doesn't dot or re-name.
Same with Calif Bill. Same with JohnH. Same with some others.

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JimH wrote:
Harry Krause wrote:
On 10/18/2006 3:20 PM, Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:

.

(Netcop crap)

Yep! The netcopping results in more arguing than the OT
posts.........always!

You should know, dot boy!

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basskisser wrote:
Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:
basskisser wrote:
on't you agree that silly name calling can get very old very fast?
Again, you are failing to get the point. It wouldn't be so bad, if
Chuck ruled his rec.boats kingdom with an even hand. The trouble is, he
doesn't. If it's one of his buds, life is good, they can post whatever
whenever. If not, then you instantly get ****ed on.
I disagree with your assesment, for almost a year Chuck has been
emphasizing the importance of keeping the inflamatory posts out of the
NG, without any bias. He does have a tendency to highlight those who
seem to be contributing the greatest noise to signal ratio, but does not
have a list of "buds".

I call bull****. Look at how many off topic posts Tom posts. Now look
at how many off topic posts from Tom that Chuck doesn't dot or re-name.
Same with Calif Bill. Same with JohnH. Same with some others.

Bass,

Why don't you call his bluff then. Stop making political and religious
posts and see if he doesn't move onto the next guy who is trolling for a
fight or flamefest? I have to be honest, I really don't read many of
the OT political posts so I don't know what Tom is or is not saying in
his posts, but the posts I do read from Tom are normally tongue in
cheek, and are not flamefests. The few times I have seen Tom get into
a ****ing contest with someone, he normally has apologized very quickly.

You might not agree with what Chuck is doing, but his objective is to
encourage more on topic discussion and less argumentative threads that
only create animosity among the NG regulars and chase away new boaters.

Why don't you give it a try, take a break from OT political posts or
posts them in a political NG. If you decide to continue making OT
political posts, then why don't you ignore Chuck.

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On 18 Oct 2006 13:02:54 -0700, "basskisser"
wrote:


Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:
basskisser wrote:
on't you agree that silly name calling can get very old very fast?

Again, you are failing to get the point. It wouldn't be so bad, if
Chuck ruled his rec.boats kingdom with an even hand. The trouble is, he
doesn't. If it's one of his buds, life is good, they can post whatever
whenever. If not, then you instantly get ****ed on.

I disagree with your assesment, for almost a year Chuck has been
emphasizing the importance of keeping the inflamatory posts out of the
NG, without any bias. He does have a tendency to highlight those who
seem to be contributing the greatest noise to signal ratio, but does not
have a list of "buds".

I call bull****. Look at how many off topic posts Tom posts. Now look
at how many off topic posts from Tom that Chuck doesn't dot or re-name.
Same with Calif Bill. Same with JohnH. Same with some others.


Bass, the difference is "for almost a year Chuck has been
emphasizing the importance of keeping the inflamatory posts out of the
NG". Tom's posts aren't imflammatory, just off topic.

In other words, Tom's OT posts aren't designed to start an argument.
Nearly every single thing *you* post *is*.

Surely you recognize the distinction?

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Jack Goff wrote:
On 18 Oct 2006 13:02:54 -0700, "basskisser"
wrote:


Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:
basskisser wrote:
on't you agree that silly name calling can get very old very fast?

Again, you are failing to get the point. It wouldn't be so bad, if
Chuck ruled his rec.boats kingdom with an even hand. The trouble is, he
doesn't. If it's one of his buds, life is good, they can post whatever
whenever. If not, then you instantly get ****ed on.

I disagree with your assesment, for almost a year Chuck has been
emphasizing the importance of keeping the inflamatory posts out of the
NG, without any bias. He does have a tendency to highlight those who
seem to be contributing the greatest noise to signal ratio, but does not
have a list of "buds".

I call bull****. Look at how many off topic posts Tom posts. Now look
at how many off topic posts from Tom that Chuck doesn't dot or re-name.
Same with Calif Bill. Same with JohnH. Same with some others.


Bass, the difference is "for almost a year Chuck has been
emphasizing the importance of keeping the inflamatory posts out of the
NG". Tom's posts aren't imflammatory, just off topic.

In other words, Tom's OT posts aren't designed to start an argument.
Nearly every single thing *you* post *is*.

Surely you recognize the distinction?

Bull****. pure and simple double standards.

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basskisser wrote:
Chuck Gould wrote:
basskisser wrote:
I see that Chuck has taken it upon himself to appoint himself as
Extreme Ruler and Grand Poobah of rec.boats. Now if anyone attempts to
post something that he, and he only deems not worthy of his eyes, he
takes it upon himself to change the subject to something stupid. How
does everyone else feel about that? Do you need someone to proofread
your posts, and edit the subject line for you? I don't. I can damned
well choose what I want to read by myself.

You may be smart enough to choose what you want to read, all by
yourself, but you must be too dam* dumb to know how to navigate to the
appropriate newsgroups to post your political nonsense.

There is no ruler or poohbah at rec.boats. This is a group organized so
people can get together on the net and discuss boats, boating, and
boating related topics. Imagine a few guys hanging out at a waterfront
coffee shop to discuss boats. Along comes some jerk who
jumps into the middle of he conversation and says, "Hey, what do you
think about those terrorist-sympathizing, Clinton appointed Democratic
judges?" or "Look what the Idiot In Chief wants to do next in Iraq!"

Some of the guys gathered to discuss boats would be polite enough to
keep their mouths shut and endure the annoying jerk, for at least a
while. Others aren't so polite, or so patient.

Ask yourself this, as you swoon over your self centered reflection in
the nearest available mirror. What is worse? Changing the header on a
single topic, or trying to fu*k up the newsgroup? Despite owning some
little skiff and going fishing once in a while, you seldom express any
interest in boating related topics. You're far more interested in
GD'ing
George Bush and stirring up political nonsense than in talking boats,
so the obvious question is: Why the hell don't you take your political
garbage off to some newsgroup or discussion group organized for that
purpose?

You shouldn't be surprised when boaters get ****ed off at non boaters
trying to turn the boating discussion group into a political campaign
platform. For either side.

But if you keep practicing your outrageous and inconsiderate behavior,
don't be surprised when once in a while one of the boaters calls you to
task for it. A few others who know darn well who they are can expect
the same as well.

So, what's worse? Changing the header on a post or raising your middle
finger to the basic purposes for which a group has gathered and
insisting that you *should* be allowed your daily political rant and
name-calling marathons? You life must be one empty place if you have to
post ridiculously off topic political stuff to a boating NG just to
fill the time.

How does it feel to be the annoyed, instead of the one annoying, for a
change?

I find it amusing how you pick and choose off topic posts to **** on,
Chuck. How come SOME here can post off topic, political flame fests and
you don't do a damned thing about it, then someone else does it, and
you instantly put on your paper hat and play god of rec.boats?


Fair question. There's a difference between general off topic stuff
that appears here, "Oh, crap, my F250 wouldn't start this morning. (or)
You should see the nifty lens I just bought for my camera. (or) My kids
are home visiting from their college in East Overshirt (yawners,
all....sorry) and posting cut and pastes of controversial political
items.

Do you think you're the only person in the group who can read the
papers or form a poliltical opinion? If you are, then why waste that
talent on people who obviously aren't prepared to appreciate it? If you
are not, then why should your particular political opinion be injected
into a discussion group organized to discuss boats and boats every day?

Truth is, Bass, you simply enjoy a good fight. You know that by posting
your anti-Bush, anti-war, anti-conservative values stuff here that you
will draw out the same old half dozen
outraged conservatives to give you one. You can exchange your "I'm not
Kevin, but you are
this or that......" with somebody who you can fantasize might actually
give a rip whether you're Kevin, Doris, Belinda, or Sam.

People who take the attitude "F everybody else, I'm going to do what I
want and pay no attention to whether its appropriate, welcome, in good
taste, or what not" wear on me.
So your daily posting routine of looking for some anti-Bush, anti-war,
anti-conservative values
newspaper clipping to put in a boating newsgroup and then hoping that
somebody engages you in a flame fest wears on me. It probably wears on
me worse because I agree with many of the political positions you claim
to espouse, so your outrageous behavior reflects badly not only on you,
but on anybody who might agree with some of the philosophies you
promote.


Perhaps
you should get off of your high horse. YOU post off topic, also, and
YOU participate in off topic posts. Do you find yourself annoying? As
for your statement that my life must be "one empty place"... YOU used
to be one of the top producers of off topic political posts, was YOUR
life "one empty place"? Further, to take the task of deciding who's off
topic political posts gets past your Grand Poobah eye of approval and
who's doesn't, then writing a 100 line disseration on it would leave
one to believe YOUR life is "one empty place".....


Next time I instigate a political thread from my "high horse" I'll be
just as big an asshole as anybody else starting a political thread in
this group. Please be sure to point out to me when next I decide to cut
and paste controversial and political nonsense here. I'll deserve to be
taken out and strung up by my nads, nailed to a tree.

Do I get on your case a lot for making OT political posts. Yeah.
Suppose that could be because you do it a lot?

You do have a point though. I should be consistent. I'll try not to let
any of your political manure go under the radar in the future.

You also need to tune up your own poobah eye a bit. I tossed a bit of
flak at one of your favorite posters, who is an arch conservative, just
like I did you this morning.

By the way, I can write 100 lines of stuff appropriate for the NG in
about 10 minutes. Don't flatter yourself that I spend any time at it.