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"Chuck Gould" wrote in message
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Calif Bill wrote:
"Tom Francis" wrote in message
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On 12 Oct 2006 08:05:06 -0700, "Chuck Gould"
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Oh, and one final thing they got wrong about Columbus. His name. His
name wasn't really Christopher Columbus, but rather Cristobal Colon.

Now, thanks apparently to the New American Indian Movement, he was a
slaver, native abuser and a rapist.

~~ sigh ~~

But the First Nation people / Native American's were slave holders also.
Abused other natives, and probably a few rapist among them. Oh Well.

Slaves were commonly held by the wealthiest First Nations families here
on the NW Coast.
Much like people enslaved by folks of European ancestry, the slaves
were assigned the most difficult or menial tasks while the slave owners
lived relatively luxurious lifestyles.

Here's a link to a synopsis of well known a tale describing the
enslavement of an Englishman by a native chief in British Columbia:

http://www.abcbookworld.com/?state=v...author_id=3954


Welcome to the dark side Chuck as it seems that your posts now include OT
posts your previously sheriffed against. ;-)


Actually was a great read at the link. Included boats, and massacres, guns,
and knifes.

John Wentworth wrote:
"Chuck Gould" wrote in message
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Poor Columbus.

It's good to see you have acquiesced to the culture here; you championed a
strict on-topic rule, but now you understand that most posters are not here
to discuss boating. It seems only a short time ago I was reading that the
forum was greatly improved, and that OT topics were now at a minimum; would
you now agree with that statement?

Maybe my standards are more lax than yours, but I consider a thread
about Columbus or any other mariner of historic importance to be a
relevant topic in a boating NG.

Tom Francis wrote:
On 13 Oct 2006 07:39:06 -0700, "Chuck Gould"
wrote:


John Wentworth wrote:
"Chuck Gould" wrote in message
oups.com...
Poor Columbus.

It's good to see you have acquiesced to the culture here; you championed a
strict on-topic rule, but now you understand that most posters are not here
to discuss boating. It seems only a short time ago I was reading that the
forum was greatly improved, and that OT topics were now at a minimum; would
you now agree with that statement?

Maybe my standards are more lax than yours, but I consider a thread
about Columbus or any other mariner of historic importance to be a
relevant topic in a boating NG.

How do you feel about Amerigo Vespucci?

I've never studied up much on him, but I know he was one of the
earliest Portuguese explorers to actual find the mainlands on North and
South America.

When is Amerigo Vespucci day? When his holiday comes around it might be
useful to post a few lines about this important historic navigator as
well.

"Tom Francis" wrote in message
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On 13 Oct 2006 07:39:06 -0700, "Chuck Gould"
wrote:


John Wentworth wrote:
"Chuck Gould" wrote in message
oups.com...
Poor Columbus.

It's good to see you have acquiesced to the culture here; you championed
a
strict on-topic rule, but now you understand that most posters are not
here
to discuss boating. It seems only a short time ago I was reading that
the
forum was greatly improved, and that OT topics were now at a minimum;
would
you now agree with that statement?

Maybe my standards are more lax than yours, but I consider a thread
about Columbus or any other mariner of historic importance to be a
relevant topic in a boating NG.

How do you feel about Amerigo Vespucci?

I always admired Evangelista Torricelli , myself.

Eisboch

Tom Francis wrote:


Or Jaques Cartier Day.


Jacques Cartier Day?
Really?
What happened, on his watch?

(Running and ducking through a chorus of boos and a salvo of half eaten
stadium food, the unfortunate comedian made a hasty exit to pursue his
day job.....)

Tom Francis wrote:
On 13 Oct 2006 08:32:48 -0700, "Chuck Gould"
wrote:


Tom Francis wrote:

On 13 Oct 2006 07:39:06 -0700, "Chuck Gould"
wrote:


John Wentworth wrote:

"Chuck Gould" wrote in message
glegroups.com...

Poor Columbus.

It's good to see you have acquiesced to the culture here; you championed a
strict on-topic rule, but now you understand that most posters are not here
to discuss boating. It seems only a short time ago I was reading that the
forum was greatly improved, and that OT topics were now at a minimum; would
you now agree with that statement?

Maybe my standards are more lax than yours, but I consider a thread
about Columbus or any other mariner of historic importance to be a
relevant topic in a boating NG.

How do you feel about Amerigo Vespucci?

I've never studied up much on him, but I know he was one of the
earliest Portuguese explorers to actual find the mainlands on North and
South America.

When is Amerigo Vespucci day? When his holiday comes around it might be
useful to post a few lines about this important historic navigator as
well.


How about Henry Hudson? :)

WHEN THE HELL IS HENRY HUDSON DAY?!?!?!?!?

Hmmmmm?

Or for that matter, Canada should have a Sir Humphrey
Gilbert Day.

Or Jaques Cartier Day.

Man, I'm telling you Chuck, you are on to something here.


My entire working career, we heard that we should have another stat
holiday in February. I'm retired now and still waiting.
Business up here complain how much that would cost them.
In this area we have New Years, Good Friday & Easter Sunday, Victoria
Day, Natal Day, Labour Day, Thanksgiving, Rememberance Day and finally
Christmas.

Don White wrote:
Tom Francis wrote:

On 13 Oct 2006 08:32:48 -0700, "Chuck Gould"
wrote:


Tom Francis wrote:

On 13 Oct 2006 07:39:06 -0700, "Chuck Gould"
wrote:


John Wentworth wrote:

"Chuck Gould" wrote in message
oups.com...

Poor Columbus.


It's good to see you have acquiesced to the culture here; you
championed a
strict on-topic rule, but now you understand that most posters are
not here
to discuss boating. It seems only a short time ago I was reading
that the
forum was greatly improved, and that OT topics were now at a
minimum; would
you now agree with that statement?


Maybe my standards are more lax than yours, but I consider a thread
about Columbus or any other mariner of historic importance to be a
relevant topic in a boating NG.


How do you feel about Amerigo Vespucci?


I've never studied up much on him, but I know he was one of the
earliest Portuguese explorers to actual find the mainlands on North and
South America.

When is Amerigo Vespucci day? When his holiday comes around it might be
useful to post a few lines about this important historic navigator as
well.



How about Henry Hudson? :)

WHEN THE HELL IS HENRY HUDSON DAY?!?!?!?!?

Hmmmmm?

Or for that matter, Canada should have a Sir Humphrey
Gilbert Day.

Or Jaques Cartier Day.

Man, I'm telling you Chuck, you are on to something here.



My entire working career, we heard that we should have another stat
holiday in February. I'm retired now and still waiting.
Business up here complain how much that would cost them.
In this area we have New Years, Good Friday & Easter Sunday, Victoria
Day, Natal Day, Labour Day, Thanksgiving, Rememberance Day and finally
Christmas.
D'oh! I forgot Canada Day on July 01.

"Tom Francis" wrote in message
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On Fri, 13 Oct 2006 11:54:20 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:

On 13 Oct 2006 07:39:06 -0700, "Chuck Gould"
wrote:



Maybe my standards are more lax than yours, but I consider a thread
about Columbus or any other mariner of historic importance to be a
relevant topic in a boating NG.

How do you feel about Amerigo Vespucci?

I always admired Evangelista Torricelli , myself.

Piffle. He was a mere candle to the bright flame of brilliance that
was Tycho Brahe.

Claudius Ptolemy taught him everything he knew.

Eisboch

"Tom Francis" wrote in message
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On Fri, 13 Oct 2006 14:52:29 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:


"Tom Francis" wrote in message
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On Fri, 13 Oct 2006 11:54:20 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:

On 13 Oct 2006 07:39:06 -0700, "Chuck Gould"
wrote:



Maybe my standards are more lax than yours, but I consider a thread
about Columbus or any other mariner of historic importance to be a
relevant topic in a boating NG.

How do you feel about Amerigo Vespucci?

I always admired Evangelista Torricelli , myself.

Piffle. He was a mere candle to the bright flame of brilliance that
was Tycho Brahe.

Claudius Ptolemy taught him everything he knew.

Um....Brahe proved that the Ptolemaic was garbage.

Ptolemy was a dumbass. :)

How about a Pourbaix day. And we could all go to Subway.

On Fri, 13 Oct 2006 15:57:35 GMT, Tom Francis
wrote:

WHEN THE HELL IS HENRY HUDSON DAY?

Henry was trying to find the Northwest Passage, and failed.

Columbus thought he succeeded. :-)