On 5 Oct 2006 13:09:16 -0700, "basskisser" wrote:


JohnH wrote:
On 5 Oct 2006 11:04:23 -0700, "basskisser" wrote:


Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:
basskisser wrote:
Chuck Gould wrote:
basskisser wrote:
JimH wrote:
"Chuck Gould" wrote in message
oups.com...
news release follows:

Thanks.

So where have you been?
June 13, 2005 JimH responded to Chuck:

Why are you getting so upset oh Spinmeister? Because folks think it
was
utterly ridiculous that you called my joke racist?

Sept. 21, 2006 JimH said:

Your netcopping causes more problems than if you would just shut your
piehole Chuck.
What happened? The day care bus break down out in front of rec.boats?

Unable to start a "neener-neener" fight using current materials,
Basskisser reaches back into the archives to find something from June
of last year.

Wrong, Chuck. There are many, many negative posts FROM JIMH TO YOU that
are very recent.
No sale, bass. Adults get over it and move on. Kids archive this stuff
and bring it up forever.

Google is a kid?
Got anything boating related to contribute, or does the group remain,
(for you), a play pen where various drama queens counter-post "You
insulted me!"?

Chuck, whining doesn't befit you very well.
Why not get back to those archives of negative posts you seem to store
and see if you can find something in there posted by you, about
boating, any time recently. Good luck.

No problem!

Oct. 4, 2006 Basskisser said:

Gene, I'm not going to cover it with carpet this time. The paint has an

additive to make it a non-slip surface. You can get it in a bunch of
colors. Because it says it's okay to use on pool decks, etc, I'd think
it would have UV inhibitors, but for all I know about paint, that may
not be true!

Oct. 3 2006 Basskisser said:

I got tired of the carpet staying soaked up then rotting the plywood.
It's an old boat, and I'm thinking of getting a new(er) one in a year
or sooner, so really I'm looking to get it through fall fishing and
then sell it. SO, what I decided to do was this. After cutting all of
my plywood pieces and checking the fit, I primed everything, edges and
both faces with oil base primer. Heavily! Now I'm again painting a coat

of garage floor two part epoxy on all edges and surfaces. Glue and
screw to the stringers, using silicone between all seams. Then, I'll
use another coat of the two part epoxy to finish coat. No carpet! I
think it will look decent, and be durable. Oh, the to the two part
epoxy paint I added a non-skid agent.

But, alas, the thread got hijacked by Dan, one of the people, like JimH
that you, for some reason, give a free pass to say whatever they want,
ALWAYS off topic, but when I do the same, it's suddenly a horrific
thing! If you are going to play netcop, you should at least be even
handed at it, and you aren't. By a long shot.

Bass,
I think you missed Chuck's point. The NG is falling back to the point
where the majority of the post are political, inflammatory and consist
of flaming and name calling. It is always easy to say "the other guy
started it", but the only way to end it is for you to ignore them.

Why don't you stop responding to all the political and inflammatory
trolls, and definitely stop cut and pasting political articles, and try
to say on topic. I know there are many others who are doing to the
same, but you can only control your own behavior.

But I find it odd that Chuck and a couple of others find it just
terrible when *I* do it, but give most others a free pass! Look around,
it's true.
On to something still off topic (so I'll probably get chastised again)
but.....
I guess I'm the last of the old school 35mm film photographers. I have
a small digital, and am going to make the move to a digital slr. I
found a D50 for a reasonable price:

http://www.royalcamera.com/nikond50kit.html

I'll be adding lenses later, plus, I really need to buckle down and
learn to get up to the level that I am with film. But, I digress, I
think I saw a thread where you, JohnH, Harry, Shortwave, etc were
discussing digital slr. I THINK I understood through those posts that
lens length doesn't equal the same as 35mm, is that true? For instance,
is a 50mm lens for 35mm the same zoom factor as for digital slr?

Nikon lenses have a multiplier of 1.5. So your 50mm will be the equivalent
of 75mm. A friend of mine bought the D50 and loves it.

So a digital SLR with a 28-80 would be like a 42-120 on a 35mm slr,
right?

Reverse that. A 50mm lens on a normal SLR will be the equivalent of a 75mm
on a digital. An 18-200mm lens on a normal SLR will be the equivalent of a
27-350mm on a digital Nikon.

JohnH wrote:
On 5 Oct 2006 13:07:19 -0700, "basskisser" wrote:


Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:
basskisser wrote:
JohnH wrote:
On 5 Oct 2006 11:04:23 -0700, "basskisser" wrote:

Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:
basskisser wrote:
Chuck Gould wrote:
basskisser wrote:
JimH wrote:
"Chuck Gould" wrote in message
oups.com...
news release follows:

Thanks.

So where have you been?
June 13, 2005 JimH responded to Chuck:

Why are you getting so upset oh Spinmeister? Because folks think it
was
utterly ridiculous that you called my joke racist?

Sept. 21, 2006 JimH said:

Your netcopping causes more problems than if you would just shut your
piehole Chuck.
What happened? The day care bus break down out in front of rec.boats?

Unable to start a "neener-neener" fight using current materials,
Basskisser reaches back into the archives to find something from June
of last year.
Wrong, Chuck. There are many, many negative posts FROM JIMH TO YOU that
are very recent.
No sale, bass. Adults get over it and move on. Kids archive this stuff
and bring it up forever.
Google is a kid?
Got anything boating related to contribute, or does the group remain,
(for you), a play pen where various drama queens counter-post "You
insulted me!"?
Chuck, whining doesn't befit you very well.
Why not get back to those archives of negative posts you seem to store
and see if you can find something in there posted by you, about
boating, any time recently. Good luck.
No problem!

Oct. 4, 2006 Basskisser said:

Gene, I'm not going to cover it with carpet this time. The paint has an

additive to make it a non-slip surface. You can get it in a bunch of
colors. Because it says it's okay to use on pool decks, etc, I'd think
it would have UV inhibitors, but for all I know about paint, that may
not be true!

Oct. 3 2006 Basskisser said:

I got tired of the carpet staying soaked up then rotting the plywood.
It's an old boat, and I'm thinking of getting a new(er) one in a year
or sooner, so really I'm looking to get it through fall fishing and
then sell it. SO, what I decided to do was this. After cutting all of
my plywood pieces and checking the fit, I primed everything, edges and
both faces with oil base primer. Heavily! Now I'm again painting a coat

of garage floor two part epoxy on all edges and surfaces. Glue and
screw to the stringers, using silicone between all seams. Then, I'll
use another coat of the two part epoxy to finish coat. No carpet! I
think it will look decent, and be durable. Oh, the to the two part
epoxy paint I added a non-skid agent.

But, alas, the thread got hijacked by Dan, one of the people, like JimH
that you, for some reason, give a free pass to say whatever they want,
ALWAYS off topic, but when I do the same, it's suddenly a horrific
thing! If you are going to play netcop, you should at least be even
handed at it, and you aren't. By a long shot.

Bass,
I think you missed Chuck's point. The NG is falling back to the point
where the majority of the post are political, inflammatory and consist
of flaming and name calling. It is always easy to say "the other guy
started it", but the only way to end it is for you to ignore them.

Why don't you stop responding to all the political and inflammatory
trolls, and definitely stop cut and pasting political articles, and try
to say on topic. I know there are many others who are doing to the
same, but you can only control your own behavior.
But I find it odd that Chuck and a couple of others find it just
terrible when *I* do it, but give most others a free pass! Look around,
it's true.
On to something still off topic (so I'll probably get chastised again)
but.....
I guess I'm the last of the old school 35mm film photographers. I have
a small digital, and am going to make the move to a digital slr. I
found a D50 for a reasonable price:

http://www.royalcamera.com/nikond50kit.html

I'll be adding lenses later, plus, I really need to buckle down and
learn to get up to the level that I am with film. But, I digress, I
think I saw a thread where you, JohnH, Harry, Shortwave, etc were
discussing digital slr. I THINK I understood through those posts that
lens length doesn't equal the same as 35mm, is that true? For instance,
is a 50mm lens for 35mm the same zoom factor as for digital slr?
Nikon lenses have a multiplier of 1.5. So your 50mm will be the equivalent
of 75mm. A friend of mine bought the D50 and loves it.

Is it just Nikon or Nikkor lenses or is that for digital SLR lenses et
al.? Also, do non-digital Nikon lenses work with digital cameras?

All digital cameras have a 1.5 multiplier, and you only want to use a
digital lens on a digital camera.


I wonder why? Just to confuse 35mm film guys like me?

The sensor in a digital camera is smaller than the 35mm film size.

Oh....but I'd much rather think it's just to confuse me.

On 5 Oct 2006 13:16:30 -0700, "basskisser" wrote:


JohnH wrote:
On 5 Oct 2006 12:46:11 -0700, "basskisser" wrote:


JohnH wrote:
On 5 Oct 2006 11:04:23 -0700, "basskisser" wrote:


Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:
basskisser wrote:
Chuck Gould wrote:
basskisser wrote:
JimH wrote:
"Chuck Gould" wrote in message
oups.com...
news release follows:

Thanks.

So where have you been?
June 13, 2005 JimH responded to Chuck:

Why are you getting so upset oh Spinmeister? Because folks think it
was
utterly ridiculous that you called my joke racist?

Sept. 21, 2006 JimH said:

Your netcopping causes more problems than if you would just shut your
piehole Chuck.
What happened? The day care bus break down out in front of rec.boats?

Unable to start a "neener-neener" fight using current materials,
Basskisser reaches back into the archives to find something from June
of last year.

Wrong, Chuck. There are many, many negative posts FROM JIMH TO YOU that
are very recent.
No sale, bass. Adults get over it and move on. Kids archive this stuff
and bring it up forever.

Google is a kid?
Got anything boating related to contribute, or does the group remain,
(for you), a play pen where various drama queens counter-post "You
insulted me!"?

Chuck, whining doesn't befit you very well.
Why not get back to those archives of negative posts you seem to store
and see if you can find something in there posted by you, about
boating, any time recently. Good luck.

No problem!

Oct. 4, 2006 Basskisser said:

Gene, I'm not going to cover it with carpet this time. The paint has an

additive to make it a non-slip surface. You can get it in a bunch of
colors. Because it says it's okay to use on pool decks, etc, I'd think
it would have UV inhibitors, but for all I know about paint, that may
not be true!

Oct. 3 2006 Basskisser said:

I got tired of the carpet staying soaked up then rotting the plywood.
It's an old boat, and I'm thinking of getting a new(er) one in a year
or sooner, so really I'm looking to get it through fall fishing and
then sell it. SO, what I decided to do was this. After cutting all of
my plywood pieces and checking the fit, I primed everything, edges and
both faces with oil base primer. Heavily! Now I'm again painting a coat

of garage floor two part epoxy on all edges and surfaces. Glue and
screw to the stringers, using silicone between all seams. Then, I'll
use another coat of the two part epoxy to finish coat. No carpet! I
think it will look decent, and be durable. Oh, the to the two part
epoxy paint I added a non-skid agent.

But, alas, the thread got hijacked by Dan, one of the people, like JimH
that you, for some reason, give a free pass to say whatever they want,
ALWAYS off topic, but when I do the same, it's suddenly a horrific
thing! If you are going to play netcop, you should at least be even
handed at it, and you aren't. By a long shot.

Bass,
I think you missed Chuck's point. The NG is falling back to the point
where the majority of the post are political, inflammatory and consist
of flaming and name calling. It is always easy to say "the other guy
started it", but the only way to end it is for you to ignore them.

Why don't you stop responding to all the political and inflammatory
trolls, and definitely stop cut and pasting political articles, and try
to say on topic. I know there are many others who are doing to the
same, but you can only control your own behavior.

But I find it odd that Chuck and a couple of others find it just
terrible when *I* do it, but give most others a free pass! Look around,
it's true.
On to something still off topic (so I'll probably get chastised again)
but.....
I guess I'm the last of the old school 35mm film photographers. I have
a small digital, and am going to make the move to a digital slr. I
found a D50 for a reasonable price:

http://www.royalcamera.com/nikond50kit.html

I'll be adding lenses later, plus, I really need to buckle down and
learn to get up to the level that I am with film. But, I digress, I
think I saw a thread where you, JohnH, Harry, Shortwave, etc were
discussing digital slr. I THINK I understood through those posts that
lens length doesn't equal the same as 35mm, is that true? For instance,
is a 50mm lens for 35mm the same zoom factor as for digital slr?

Nikon lenses have a multiplier of 1.5. So your 50mm will be the equivalent
of 75mm. A friend of mine bought the D50 and loves it.

Is it just Nikon or Nikkor lenses or is that for digital SLR lenses et
al.? Also, do non-digital Nikon lenses work with digital cameras?

The Canon had a 1.6 multiplier. I don't know about the others. My daughter
uses a lens she had with a regular SLR on her D70.

Just looked at Best Buy

$699.99 gets the body and an 18-55mm lens, while at Ritz $599.99 gets
the body and a 28-80mm lens.......

Now go online and compare the lenses. There can be a big difference in the
quality of the lenses. Here's a pretty good source for info on lenses:

http://www.kenrockwell.com/nikon/nikkor.htm

JohnH wrote:
On 5 Oct 2006 12:46:11 -0700, "basskisser" wrote:


JohnH wrote:
On 5 Oct 2006 11:04:23 -0700, "basskisser" wrote:


Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:
basskisser wrote:
Chuck Gould wrote:
basskisser wrote:
JimH wrote:
"Chuck Gould" wrote in message
oups.com...
news release follows:

Thanks.

So where have you been?
June 13, 2005 JimH responded to Chuck:

Why are you getting so upset oh Spinmeister? Because folks think it
was
utterly ridiculous that you called my joke racist?

Sept. 21, 2006 JimH said:

Your netcopping causes more problems than if you would just shut your
piehole Chuck.
What happened? The day care bus break down out in front of rec.boats?

Unable to start a "neener-neener" fight using current materials,
Basskisser reaches back into the archives to find something from June
of last year.

Wrong, Chuck. There are many, many negative posts FROM JIMH TO YOU that
are very recent.
No sale, bass. Adults get over it and move on. Kids archive this stuff
and bring it up forever.

Google is a kid?
Got anything boating related to contribute, or does the group remain,
(for you), a play pen where various drama queens counter-post "You
insulted me!"?

Chuck, whining doesn't befit you very well.
Why not get back to those archives of negative posts you seem to store
and see if you can find something in there posted by you, about
boating, any time recently. Good luck.

No problem!

Oct. 4, 2006 Basskisser said:

Gene, I'm not going to cover it with carpet this time. The paint has an

additive to make it a non-slip surface. You can get it in a bunch of
colors. Because it says it's okay to use on pool decks, etc, I'd think
it would have UV inhibitors, but for all I know about paint, that may
not be true!

Oct. 3 2006 Basskisser said:

I got tired of the carpet staying soaked up then rotting the plywood.
It's an old boat, and I'm thinking of getting a new(er) one in a year
or sooner, so really I'm looking to get it through fall fishing and
then sell it. SO, what I decided to do was this. After cutting all of
my plywood pieces and checking the fit, I primed everything, edges and
both faces with oil base primer. Heavily! Now I'm again painting a coat

of garage floor two part epoxy on all edges and surfaces. Glue and
screw to the stringers, using silicone between all seams. Then, I'll
use another coat of the two part epoxy to finish coat. No carpet! I
think it will look decent, and be durable. Oh, the to the two part
epoxy paint I added a non-skid agent.

But, alas, the thread got hijacked by Dan, one of the people, like JimH
that you, for some reason, give a free pass to say whatever they want,
ALWAYS off topic, but when I do the same, it's suddenly a horrific
thing! If you are going to play netcop, you should at least be even
handed at it, and you aren't. By a long shot.

Bass,
I think you missed Chuck's point. The NG is falling back to the point
where the majority of the post are political, inflammatory and consist
of flaming and name calling. It is always easy to say "the other guy
started it", but the only way to end it is for you to ignore them.

Why don't you stop responding to all the political and inflammatory
trolls, and definitely stop cut and pasting political articles, and try
to say on topic. I know there are many others who are doing to the
same, but you can only control your own behavior.

But I find it odd that Chuck and a couple of others find it just
terrible when *I* do it, but give most others a free pass! Look around,
it's true.
On to something still off topic (so I'll probably get chastised again)
but.....
I guess I'm the last of the old school 35mm film photographers. I have
a small digital, and am going to make the move to a digital slr. I
found a D50 for a reasonable price:

http://www.royalcamera.com/nikond50kit.html

I'll be adding lenses later, plus, I really need to buckle down and
learn to get up to the level that I am with film. But, I digress, I
think I saw a thread where you, JohnH, Harry, Shortwave, etc were
discussing digital slr. I THINK I understood through those posts that
lens length doesn't equal the same as 35mm, is that true? For instance,
is a 50mm lens for 35mm the same zoom factor as for digital slr?

Nikon lenses have a multiplier of 1.5. So your 50mm will be the equivalent
of 75mm. A friend of mine bought the D50 and loves it.

Is it just Nikon or Nikkor lenses or is that for digital SLR lenses et
al.? Also, do non-digital Nikon lenses work with digital cameras?

PS. If you buy from a local guy, you can always take your Nikon lenses in
and try them on the D50.

Never owned a Nikon! I've been a Pentax man since my second SLR, first
was a Yashica. Once I got my first Pentax and started getting lenses
and accesories, then of course I couldn't change without paying the
price! What I liked about the Pentax's were that they were good beater
cameras. My current one has dents and dings all over it where I've
climbed rocks and stuff! But, in digitals, when looking at features,
I'm constantly going back to the Nikon. I figure I'd get the D50, use
it for my digital learning curve, then sell it to my brother and
upgrade.

basskisser wrote:
JohnH wrote:
On 5 Oct 2006 12:46:11 -0700, "basskisser" wrote:

JohnH wrote:
On 5 Oct 2006 11:04:23 -0700, "basskisser" wrote:

Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:
basskisser wrote:
Chuck Gould wrote:
basskisser wrote:
JimH wrote:
"Chuck Gould" wrote in message
oups.com...
news release follows:

Thanks.

So where have you been?
June 13, 2005 JimH responded to Chuck:

Why are you getting so upset oh Spinmeister? Because folks think it
was
utterly ridiculous that you called my joke racist?

Sept. 21, 2006 JimH said:

Your netcopping causes more problems than if you would just shut your
piehole Chuck.
What happened? The day care bus break down out in front of rec.boats?

Unable to start a "neener-neener" fight using current materials,
Basskisser reaches back into the archives to find something from June
of last year.
Wrong, Chuck. There are many, many negative posts FROM JIMH TO YOU that
are very recent.
No sale, bass. Adults get over it and move on. Kids archive this stuff
and bring it up forever.
Google is a kid?
Got anything boating related to contribute, or does the group remain,
(for you), a play pen where various drama queens counter-post "You
insulted me!"?
Chuck, whining doesn't befit you very well.
Why not get back to those archives of negative posts you seem to store
and see if you can find something in there posted by you, about
boating, any time recently. Good luck.
No problem!

Oct. 4, 2006 Basskisser said:

Gene, I'm not going to cover it with carpet this time. The paint has an

additive to make it a non-slip surface. You can get it in a bunch of
colors. Because it says it's okay to use on pool decks, etc, I'd think
it would have UV inhibitors, but for all I know about paint, that may
not be true!

Oct. 3 2006 Basskisser said:

I got tired of the carpet staying soaked up then rotting the plywood.
It's an old boat, and I'm thinking of getting a new(er) one in a year
or sooner, so really I'm looking to get it through fall fishing and
then sell it. SO, what I decided to do was this. After cutting all of
my plywood pieces and checking the fit, I primed everything, edges and
both faces with oil base primer. Heavily! Now I'm again painting a coat

of garage floor two part epoxy on all edges and surfaces. Glue and
screw to the stringers, using silicone between all seams. Then, I'll
use another coat of the two part epoxy to finish coat. No carpet! I
think it will look decent, and be durable. Oh, the to the two part
epoxy paint I added a non-skid agent.

But, alas, the thread got hijacked by Dan, one of the people, like JimH
that you, for some reason, give a free pass to say whatever they want,
ALWAYS off topic, but when I do the same, it's suddenly a horrific
thing! If you are going to play netcop, you should at least be even
handed at it, and you aren't. By a long shot.

Bass,
I think you missed Chuck's point. The NG is falling back to the point
where the majority of the post are political, inflammatory and consist
of flaming and name calling. It is always easy to say "the other guy
started it", but the only way to end it is for you to ignore them.

Why don't you stop responding to all the political and inflammatory
trolls, and definitely stop cut and pasting political articles, and try
to say on topic. I know there are many others who are doing to the
same, but you can only control your own behavior.
But I find it odd that Chuck and a couple of others find it just
terrible when *I* do it, but give most others a free pass! Look around,
it's true.
On to something still off topic (so I'll probably get chastised again)
but.....
I guess I'm the last of the old school 35mm film photographers. I have
a small digital, and am going to make the move to a digital slr. I
found a D50 for a reasonable price:

http://www.royalcamera.com/nikond50kit.html

I'll be adding lenses later, plus, I really need to buckle down and
learn to get up to the level that I am with film. But, I digress, I
think I saw a thread where you, JohnH, Harry, Shortwave, etc were
discussing digital slr. I THINK I understood through those posts that
lens length doesn't equal the same as 35mm, is that true? For instance,
is a 50mm lens for 35mm the same zoom factor as for digital slr?
Nikon lenses have a multiplier of 1.5. So your 50mm will be the equivalent
of 75mm. A friend of mine bought the D50 and loves it.
Is it just Nikon or Nikkor lenses or is that for digital SLR lenses et
al.? Also, do non-digital Nikon lenses work with digital cameras?
The Canon had a 1.6 multiplier. I don't know about the others. My daughter
uses a lens she had with a regular SLR on her D70.

Just looked at Best Buy

$699.99 gets the body and an 18-55mm lens, while at Ritz $599.99 gets
the body and a 28-80mm lens.......


Check out the lens mfg'er. The Ritz at $599 is their private label
lens. Big difference between the lens.

On 5 Oct 2006 13:23:44 -0700, "basskisser" wrote:


JohnH wrote:
On 5 Oct 2006 12:46:11 -0700, "basskisser" wrote:


JohnH wrote:
On 5 Oct 2006 11:04:23 -0700, "basskisser" wrote:


Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:
basskisser wrote:
Chuck Gould wrote:
basskisser wrote:
JimH wrote:
"Chuck Gould" wrote in message
oups.com...
news release follows:

Thanks.

So where have you been?
June 13, 2005 JimH responded to Chuck:

Why are you getting so upset oh Spinmeister? Because folks think it
was
utterly ridiculous that you called my joke racist?

Sept. 21, 2006 JimH said:

Your netcopping causes more problems than if you would just shut your
piehole Chuck.
What happened? The day care bus break down out in front of rec.boats?

Unable to start a "neener-neener" fight using current materials,
Basskisser reaches back into the archives to find something from June
of last year.

Wrong, Chuck. There are many, many negative posts FROM JIMH TO YOU that
are very recent.
No sale, bass. Adults get over it and move on. Kids archive this stuff
and bring it up forever.

Google is a kid?
Got anything boating related to contribute, or does the group remain,
(for you), a play pen where various drama queens counter-post "You
insulted me!"?

Chuck, whining doesn't befit you very well.
Why not get back to those archives of negative posts you seem to store
and see if you can find something in there posted by you, about
boating, any time recently. Good luck.

No problem!

Oct. 4, 2006 Basskisser said:

Gene, I'm not going to cover it with carpet this time. The paint has an

additive to make it a non-slip surface. You can get it in a bunch of
colors. Because it says it's okay to use on pool decks, etc, I'd think
it would have UV inhibitors, but for all I know about paint, that may
not be true!

Oct. 3 2006 Basskisser said:

I got tired of the carpet staying soaked up then rotting the plywood.
It's an old boat, and I'm thinking of getting a new(er) one in a year
or sooner, so really I'm looking to get it through fall fishing and
then sell it. SO, what I decided to do was this. After cutting all of
my plywood pieces and checking the fit, I primed everything, edges and
both faces with oil base primer. Heavily! Now I'm again painting a coat

of garage floor two part epoxy on all edges and surfaces. Glue and
screw to the stringers, using silicone between all seams. Then, I'll
use another coat of the two part epoxy to finish coat. No carpet! I
think it will look decent, and be durable. Oh, the to the two part
epoxy paint I added a non-skid agent.

But, alas, the thread got hijacked by Dan, one of the people, like JimH
that you, for some reason, give a free pass to say whatever they want,
ALWAYS off topic, but when I do the same, it's suddenly a horrific
thing! If you are going to play netcop, you should at least be even
handed at it, and you aren't. By a long shot.

Bass,
I think you missed Chuck's point. The NG is falling back to the point
where the majority of the post are political, inflammatory and consist
of flaming and name calling. It is always easy to say "the other guy
started it", but the only way to end it is for you to ignore them.

Why don't you stop responding to all the political and inflammatory
trolls, and definitely stop cut and pasting political articles, and try
to say on topic. I know there are many others who are doing to the
same, but you can only control your own behavior.

But I find it odd that Chuck and a couple of others find it just
terrible when *I* do it, but give most others a free pass! Look around,
it's true.
On to something still off topic (so I'll probably get chastised again)
but.....
I guess I'm the last of the old school 35mm film photographers. I have
a small digital, and am going to make the move to a digital slr. I
found a D50 for a reasonable price:

http://www.royalcamera.com/nikond50kit.html

I'll be adding lenses later, plus, I really need to buckle down and
learn to get up to the level that I am with film. But, I digress, I
think I saw a thread where you, JohnH, Harry, Shortwave, etc were
discussing digital slr. I THINK I understood through those posts that
lens length doesn't equal the same as 35mm, is that true? For instance,
is a 50mm lens for 35mm the same zoom factor as for digital slr?

Nikon lenses have a multiplier of 1.5. So your 50mm will be the equivalent
of 75mm. A friend of mine bought the D50 and loves it.

Is it just Nikon or Nikkor lenses or is that for digital SLR lenses et
al.? Also, do non-digital Nikon lenses work with digital cameras?

PS. If you buy from a local guy, you can always take your Nikon lenses in
and try them on the D50.

Never owned a Nikon! I've been a Pentax man since my second SLR, first
was a Yashica. Once I got my first Pentax and started getting lenses
and accesories, then of course I couldn't change without paying the
price! What I liked about the Pentax's were that they were good beater
cameras. My current one has dents and dings all over it where I've
climbed rocks and stuff! But, in digitals, when looking at features,
I'm constantly going back to the Nikon. I figure I'd get the D50, use
it for my digital learning curve, then sell it to my brother and
upgrade.

Well, I love my D200, and apparently others in the group do to. Get a
decent lens so you can keep using it when you upgrade the body. You may
find that the D50 does everything you want it to.

On Thu, 05 Oct 2006 17:08:54 -0400, "Reginald P. Smithers III"
wrote:

basskisser wrote:
JohnH wrote:
On 5 Oct 2006 12:46:11 -0700, "basskisser" wrote:

JohnH wrote:
On 5 Oct 2006 11:04:23 -0700, "basskisser" wrote:

Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:
basskisser wrote:
Chuck Gould wrote:
basskisser wrote:
JimH wrote:
"Chuck Gould" wrote in message
oups.com...
news release follows:

Thanks.

So where have you been?
June 13, 2005 JimH responded to Chuck:

Why are you getting so upset oh Spinmeister? Because folks think it
was
utterly ridiculous that you called my joke racist?

Sept. 21, 2006 JimH said:

Your netcopping causes more problems than if you would just shut your
piehole Chuck.
What happened? The day care bus break down out in front of rec.boats?

Unable to start a "neener-neener" fight using current materials,
Basskisser reaches back into the archives to find something from June
of last year.
Wrong, Chuck. There are many, many negative posts FROM JIMH TO YOU that
are very recent.
No sale, bass. Adults get over it and move on. Kids archive this stuff
and bring it up forever.
Google is a kid?
Got anything boating related to contribute, or does the group remain,
(for you), a play pen where various drama queens counter-post "You
insulted me!"?
Chuck, whining doesn't befit you very well.
Why not get back to those archives of negative posts you seem to store
and see if you can find something in there posted by you, about
boating, any time recently. Good luck.
No problem!

Oct. 4, 2006 Basskisser said:

Gene, I'm not going to cover it with carpet this time. The paint has an

additive to make it a non-slip surface. You can get it in a bunch of
colors. Because it says it's okay to use on pool decks, etc, I'd think
it would have UV inhibitors, but for all I know about paint, that may
not be true!

Oct. 3 2006 Basskisser said:

I got tired of the carpet staying soaked up then rotting the plywood.
It's an old boat, and I'm thinking of getting a new(er) one in a year
or sooner, so really I'm looking to get it through fall fishing and
then sell it. SO, what I decided to do was this. After cutting all of
my plywood pieces and checking the fit, I primed everything, edges and
both faces with oil base primer. Heavily! Now I'm again painting a coat

of garage floor two part epoxy on all edges and surfaces. Glue and
screw to the stringers, using silicone between all seams. Then, I'll
use another coat of the two part epoxy to finish coat. No carpet! I
think it will look decent, and be durable. Oh, the to the two part
epoxy paint I added a non-skid agent.

But, alas, the thread got hijacked by Dan, one of the people, like JimH
that you, for some reason, give a free pass to say whatever they want,
ALWAYS off topic, but when I do the same, it's suddenly a horrific
thing! If you are going to play netcop, you should at least be even
handed at it, and you aren't. By a long shot.

Bass,
I think you missed Chuck's point. The NG is falling back to the point
where the majority of the post are political, inflammatory and consist
of flaming and name calling. It is always easy to say "the other guy
started it", but the only way to end it is for you to ignore them.

Why don't you stop responding to all the political and inflammatory
trolls, and definitely stop cut and pasting political articles, and try
to say on topic. I know there are many others who are doing to the
same, but you can only control your own behavior.
But I find it odd that Chuck and a couple of others find it just
terrible when *I* do it, but give most others a free pass! Look around,
it's true.
On to something still off topic (so I'll probably get chastised again)
but.....
I guess I'm the last of the old school 35mm film photographers. I have
a small digital, and am going to make the move to a digital slr. I
found a D50 for a reasonable price:

http://www.royalcamera.com/nikond50kit.html

I'll be adding lenses later, plus, I really need to buckle down and
learn to get up to the level that I am with film. But, I digress, I
think I saw a thread where you, JohnH, Harry, Shortwave, etc were
discussing digital slr. I THINK I understood through those posts that
lens length doesn't equal the same as 35mm, is that true? For instance,
is a 50mm lens for 35mm the same zoom factor as for digital slr?
Nikon lenses have a multiplier of 1.5. So your 50mm will be the equivalent
of 75mm. A friend of mine bought the D50 and loves it.
Is it just Nikon or Nikkor lenses or is that for digital SLR lenses et
al.? Also, do non-digital Nikon lenses work with digital cameras?
The Canon had a 1.6 multiplier. I don't know about the others. My daughter
uses a lens she had with a regular SLR on her D70.

Just looked at Best Buy

$699.99 gets the body and an 18-55mm lens, while at Ritz $599.99 gets
the body and a 28-80mm lens.......


Check out the lens mfg'er. The Ritz at $599 is their private label
lens. Big difference between the lens.

It sounded a little fishy. Thanks for clearing that up.

basskisser wrote:

Wrong, Chuck. There are many, many negative posts FROM JIMH TO YOU that
are very recent.


Assuming for a moment that your statement is factually based, what
purpose on gawd's green earth does is serve for you to come flying in
with a "Look what Jimmy said!" comment. (See post #8 in this thread).

Fact is we had a boating related discussion going here. Fact is that
one individual was the first to try to turn it into personality related
****ing match. Fact is that individual was you.

If JimH has posted negative comments to or about me, then it would seem
fair that it would be my option to react to those comments, or not.

At some point we need to let bygones by bygones- or else we could spend
the rest of life just trying to get "even" for some dirty comment
so-and-so made on such-and-such a date.

"Chuck Gould" wrote in message
oups.com...

basskisser wrote:

Wrong, Chuck. There are many, many negative posts FROM JIMH TO YOU that
are very recent.


Assuming for a moment that your statement is factually based, what
purpose on gawd's green earth does is serve for you to come flying in
with a "Look what Jimmy said!" comment. (See post #8 in this thread).

Fact is we had a boating related discussion going here. Fact is that
one individual was the first to try to turn it into personality related
****ing match. Fact is that individual was you.

If JimH has posted negative comments to or about me, then it would seem
fair that it would be my option to react to those comments, or not.

At some point we need to let bygones by bygones- or else we could spend
the rest of life just trying to get "even" for some dirty comment
so-and-so made on such-and-such a date.


Thank you Chuck.

This obsession that he has with me and his threats made to me have reached
beyond what one would expect from a reasonable and sane person.

Do I fear the guy.........you betcha! He has threatened others here of
physical harm. He has threatened to do physical harm to me, including him
"hunting me down to find me". Those are not the words of a mentally stable
person. Knowing this no sane person would then accept to meet him
personally.

Perhaps this can put an end to his recent *challenge* to me: I will not
meet him personally and if he shows up at my house he can expect to be
arrested by my local police department as they have been advised of this
lunatics past threats to me.

I hope this is crystal clear to him. ;-)

Harry Krause wrote:
basskisser wrote:
Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:

All digital cameras have a 1.5 multiplier, and you only want to use a
digital lens on a digital camera.


I wonder why? Just to confuse 35mm film guys like me?



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All digital cameras do not have the "multiplier."


You might consider a non-SLR digital.
My wife has a new Canon A710 IS and took this shot yesterday:

http://tinyurl.com/rs66s

Rainy today out in Lost Wages. Blech.

When it rains out there, it's certainly gray and yucky! I'm an old 35mm
SLR guy, therefore I want a digital slr. I've already got a non-SLR
digital. Nice shot, though!!