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Headed out to Boston/Salem/Topsfield next week.

Will wander around where my Puritan ancestors first set up shop in
America. (ggggggg...Great Grandpa Zaccheus' house is on the national
register of historic places in Topsfield, as is another
gggggggg....grandfather's barn)

Going to visit Old Ironsides (she's moored in Boston, right?)

Since I seldom get back to the right hand side of the country, are
there any other "must sees" during a few days in Boston?

Visiting Old Ironsides......what else to do in Boston?
 

Chuck Gould wrote:
Headed out to Boston/Salem/Topsfield next week.

Will wander around where my Puritan ancestors first set up shop in
America. (ggggggg...Great Grandpa Zaccheus' house is on the national
register of historic places in Topsfield, as is another
gggggggg....grandfather's barn)

Going to visit Old Ironsides (she's moored in Boston, right?)

Since I seldom get back to the right hand side of the country, are
there any other "must sees" during a few days in Boston?


There are still lots of tickets left for tomorrows Rolling Stones
concert in Halifax. (just a little north east of Boston)
http://www.herald.ns.ca/

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"Chuck Gould" wrote in message
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Headed out to Boston/Salem/Topsfield next week.

Will wander around where my Puritan ancestors first set up shop in
America. (ggggggg...Great Grandpa Zaccheus' house is on the national
register of historic places in Topsfield, as is another
gggggggg....grandfather's barn)

Going to visit Old Ironsides (she's moored in Boston, right?)

Since I seldom get back to the right hand side of the country, are
there any other "must sees" during a few days in Boston?


The USS Consitution is in Charlestown. If you haven't - take the tour. It
is really interesting and enlightening. Information he

http://www.ussconstitution.navy.mil/

I'd recommend spending some time in the Quincy Marketplace area. Stop for
lunch and a brew at the Union Oyster House.

Eisboch

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The USS Consitution is in Charlestown. If you haven't - take the tour.
It is really interesting and enlightening. Information he

http://www.ussconstitution.navy.mil/

I'd recommend spending some time in the Quincy Marketplace area. Stop for
lunch and a brew at the Union Oyster House.

Eisboch


Oh ... and hold your breath and wear a hard hat if you drive through any of
the new tunnels in Boston.

(just kidding - the ones you can't use are detoured)

Eisboch

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"Chuck Gould" wrote in message
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Headed out to Boston/Salem/Topsfield next week.


If you decide to venture south of Boston .... towards Cape Cod .... let me
know. I'll take you on a quick tour of south coastal comunities, including
Plymouth where you can stand in awe of the famous Plymouth Rock. :-)

Eisboch

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"Chuck Gould" wrote in message
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Headed out to Boston/Salem/Topsfield next week.

Will wander around where my Puritan ancestors first set up shop in
America. (ggggggg...Great Grandpa Zaccheus' house is on the national
register of historic places in Topsfield, as is another
gggggggg....grandfather's barn)

Going to visit Old Ironsides (she's moored in Boston, right?)

Since I seldom get back to the right hand side of the country, are
there any other "must sees" during a few days in Boston?


The aquarium's quite nice, although you probably see enough water and fish
already. If there'll be little kids with you, they'll enjoy the indoor tidal
pool, where they can stick their hands in and touch little creatures. Bring
a small towel for their hands. The water's icy cold.

You'll probably want to eat at some point, fussy pain in the ass that you
are. Let's say you and the Mrs. have waited too long to eat, so you're
getting headaches and beginning to argue a little, and you find yourself
standing in front of Legal Seafood, near the aquarium. Locals know lots of
places that are as good, and cheaper. But, if you don't have the patience at
that point to be explorers, just go in and eat. The food's great, the
seafood is really fresh and the place is spotless. www.legalseafood.com
There's a glass display case where you can see some of what's available that
day.

There are two places in Chinatown that specialize in fish: Jumbo Seafood
and East Ocean City. I've been to Jumbo, and it was seriously GOOD. Next
day, it was the Daily Catch (http://www.dailycatch.com/main.html). Hot damn!

Didn't get to these places, but they were recommended by some locals from
another newsgroup:
==================
"- Durgin-Park; loacted at Quincy Market, but was there before the
renovation
and tourists - have chowder, fish or clam, broiled scrod, and Indian pudding
for dessert
- No-Name Restaurant, 15 1/2 Fish Pier. Seafood chowder and broiled scrod

Either or both places will probably have steamed clams as well. Another
local dish to try at D-P is finnan haddie."
==================

Never made it here because maladjusted travel companions wanted to shop
instead, but check this out:

"The centerpiece is the U.S.S. Massachusetts (+1 508 678 1100. Adm. fee),
the 46,000-ton [46,738.2-metric ton] World War II battleship that served as
one of two flagships for Operation Torch, the 1942 invasion of North Africa.
Visitors can spend hours on several decks of the vast ship, climbing into
antiaircraft gun turrets, marveling at the silent strength of the 16-inch
[40.6-cm] guns, and touring the bridge, engine room, and magazines. Also
moored here and open to visitors are the destroyer Joseph P. Kennedy, Jr.,
the submarine Lionfish, and the only two PT boats displayed anywhere."
More info 2/3 down this page:
http://www.nationalgeographic.com/de...uth_Shore.html

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One of the coolest things on Old Ironsides is the bilge pump system that was
operated by two sailors at the end of long handles. When going into battle
they purposely flooded the gun deck with water from the bilge to ensure the
gun powder in the cannons didn't inadvertantly catch the ship on fire.

Eisboch

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"Eisboch" wrote in message
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"Chuck Gould" wrote in message
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Going to visit Old Ironsides (she's moored in Boston, right?)



One of the coolest things on Old Ironsides is the bilge pump system that
was operated by two sailors at the end of long handles. When going into
battle they purposely flooded the gun deck with water from the bilge to
ensure the gun powder in the cannons didn't inadvertantly catch the ship
on fire.

Eisboch


Amazing idea! I'll keep this in mind next time I'm out fishing.

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"JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message
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"Eisboch" wrote in message
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"Chuck Gould" wrote in message
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Going to visit Old Ironsides (she's moored in Boston, right?)



One of the coolest things on Old Ironsides is the bilge pump system that
was operated by two sailors at the end of long handles. When going into
battle they purposely flooded the gun deck with water from the bilge to
ensure the gun powder in the cannons didn't inadvertantly catch the ship
on fire.

Eisboch


Amazing idea! I'll keep this in mind next time I'm out fishing.


I am sure your cannons are powerless.

Eisboch

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"Eisboch" wrote in message
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"JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message
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"Eisboch" wrote in message
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"Chuck Gould" wrote in message
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Going to visit Old Ironsides (she's moored in Boston, right?)



One of the coolest things on Old Ironsides is the bilge pump system that
was operated by two sailors at the end of long handles. When going into
battle they purposely flooded the gun deck with water from the bilge to
ensure the gun powder in the cannons didn't inadvertantly catch the ship
on fire.

Eisboch


Amazing idea! I'll keep this in mind next time I'm out fishing.


I am sure your cannons are powerless.

Eisboch


That's not what she said, 38 times yesterday.

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On Fri, 22 Sep 2006 14:00:00 -0400, Harry Krause
wrote:

Where are you staying? When I go, we either stay at a B&B or at the
Parker House Hotel, an old favorite, and not too expensive. Great place
to start walking.

I'll second the motion on the Parker House, haven't stayed there in
years but always a great place. It is home of the famous Parker House
rolls among other things.

There used to be a great Irish pub a few blocks from there but the
name escapes me at the moment (maybe the Black Rose or something like
that).

Yes, that's it:

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q...oogle+Searc h

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Harry Krause wrote:


Where are you staying? When I go, we either stay at a B&B or at the
Parker House Hotel, an old favorite, and not too expensive. Great place
to start walking.

Not sure. Wife has handled all the details. I just have to be ready to
catch the plane.
A couple days in Boston, a couple of days in Salem and Topsfield, and a
couple of days somewhere else where we will get to see our daughter who
lives in NYC. (She'll be coming up by bus).

Do want to see a lot of the historic sites in Boston, but I'll have to
pick and choose due to time constraints. As this is a bit of a family
history tour I will want to see Bunker Hill. One of my ancestral
relatives was the last man off the hill in retreat. Of course the
same guy later let Benedict Arnold escape. (oops). Ain't that the way
life goes?


Benjamin Gould was a sergeant 1775 April in Capt. John Baker's
company,and Col. Moses Little's regiment. Benjamin Gould, with thirty
minutemenfrom Topsfield under his command, marched to Lexington, April
19, 1775,and in that fight received a wound that scarred his cheek
through life.He was commissioned captain in the Continental Army, and
after the battleof Bunker Hill was the last man to cross Charlestown
Neck in retreat.He was present at the battles of White Plains, NY, and
Bennington, VT. Indetachment of 500 to Mt. Independence on Lake
Champlain, commanded byCol. Johnson; in Capt. Flint's division at
Stillwater, Oct. 7, he tookcommand when Capt Flint was killed, and he
was at the surrender ofBurgoyne, Saratoga, Oct. 7. Returning home, he
filled various importantpositions in 1778 and 1779. In 1780, he went to
reinforce the garrisonat West Point, commanding a company in regiment
of Col. Ward of Ipswich,and was captain of the main guard at the time
of Arnold's escape andAndre's capture.

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Eisboch wrote:


I'd recommend spending some time in the Quincy Marketplace area. Stop for
lunch and a brew at the Union Oyster House.

Eisboch

I'll check it out, thanks!

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"Chuck Gould" wrote in message
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Harry Krause wrote:


Where are you staying? When I go, we either stay at a B&B or at the
Parker House Hotel, an old favorite, and not too expensive. Great place
to start walking.

Not sure. Wife has handled all the details. I just have to be ready to
catch the plane.
A couple days in Boston, a couple of days in Salem and Topsfield, and a
couple of days somewhere else where we will get to see our daughter who
lives in NYC. (She'll be coming up by bus).

Do want to see a lot of the historic sites in Boston, but I'll have to
pick and choose due to time constraints. As this is a bit of a family
history tour I will want to see Bunker Hill. One of my ancestral
relatives was the last man off the hill in retreat. Of course the
same guy later let Benedict Arnold escape. (oops). Ain't that the way
life goes?


Benjamin Gould was a sergeant 1775 April in Capt. John Baker's
company,and Col. Moses Little's regiment. Benjamin Gould, with thirty
minutemenfrom Topsfield under his command, marched to Lexington, April
19, 1775,and in that fight received a wound that scarred his cheek
through life.He was commissioned captain in the Continental Army, and
after the battleof Bunker Hill was the last man to cross Charlestown
Neck in retreat.He was present at the battles of White Plains, NY, and
Bennington, VT. Indetachment of 500 to Mt. Independence on Lake
Champlain, commanded byCol. Johnson; in Capt. Flint's division at
Stillwater, Oct. 7, he tookcommand when Capt Flint was killed, and he
was at the surrender ofBurgoyne, Saratoga, Oct. 7. Returning home, he
filled various importantpositions in 1778 and 1779. In 1780, he went to
reinforce the garrisonat West Point, commanding a company in regiment
of Col. Ward of Ipswich,and was captain of the main guard at the time
of Arnold's escape andAndre's capture.



Next year about this same time my wife and I will be taking a tour of
Baltimore, Boston, New York and Maine (up to the White Mountains), with a
stop in Waterville (eating at my favorite lobster restaurant for some
'doubles' and Freeport (oh joy, shopping). I will be asking the same
questions next year.

I remember visiting a customer in Boston many years ago and driving through
Salem on Halloween day. Pretty cool!

Anyway, Salem is only a couple dozen miles north of Boston....Topsfield
about the same.......I trust you will be staying in the same hotel during
this trip to make your stay more enjoyable. Switching hotels to save a few
minutes of travel is a real pain.

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"Chuck Gould" wrote in message
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Eisboch wrote:


I'd recommend spending some time in the Quincy Marketplace area. Stop
for
lunch and a brew at the Union Oyster House.

Eisboch

I'll check it out, thanks!


Don't forget a lunch at the original Cheers bar!

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Chuck Gould wrote:
Headed out to Boston/Salem/Topsfield next week.

Will wander around where my Puritan ancestors first set up shop in
America. (ggggggg...Great Grandpa Zaccheus' house is on the national
register of historic places in Topsfield, as is another
gggggggg....grandfather's barn)

Going to visit Old Ironsides (she's moored in Boston, right?)

Since I seldom get back to the right hand side of the country, are
there any other "must sees" during a few days in Boston?


Can you bring along the paperwork krause sent you to prove he owned the
lobstaboat? I'd like to have a look at it.

I wonder why we *never* hear anything about this boat anymore.

-- Charlie

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Eisboch wrote:
"Chuck Gould" wrote in message
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Headed out to Boston/Salem/Topsfield next week.


If you decide to venture south of Boston .... towards Cape Cod .... let me
know. I'll take you on a quick tour of south coastal comunities, including
Plymouth where you can stand in awe of the famous Plymouth Rock. :-)

When we were up at The Farm, Rye NH, in Aug 2005 we went to Plymouth and
saw the rock. My wife the Geologist/Chemist wasn't impressed and thought
it looked like a very large river rock. I insisted on taking a picture
of the wife and kids and The Rock.

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Eisboch wrote:
"Chuck Gould" wrote in message
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Going to visit Old Ironsides (she's moored in Boston, right?)



One of the coolest things on Old Ironsides is the bilge pump system that was
operated by two sailors at the end of long handles. When going into battle
they purposely flooded the gun deck with water from the bilge to ensure the
gun powder in the cannons didn't inadvertantly catch the ship on fire.

They tell the same story at the USS(?) Constellation in Baltimore.

And, on the USS Constellation they fire a cannon. A salute cannon but, a
cannon none the less.

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"Harry Krause" wrote in message
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North End, Boston
This Italian neighborhood, Boston's oldest, is known for its wonderful
restaurants and historic sights.

If you get there. have dinner at Joe Tecci's - real good food and a very
cool decor.

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...Plymouth where you can stand in awe of the famous Plymouth Rock. :-)

It just looks so much bigger on the postcards. :-

--Mike

"Eisboch" wrote in message
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"Chuck Gould" wrote in message
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Headed out to Boston/Salem/Topsfield next week.


If you decide to venture south of Boston .... towards Cape Cod .... let me
know. I'll take you on a quick tour of south coastal comunities, including
Plymouth where you can stand in awe of the famous Plymouth Rock. :-)

Eisboch

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It's a great town...have fun. Lots of history, great food, great atmosphere,
and until August 1st, a great baseball team.

You really should try to get to a game at Fenway if they're in town. It's an
awesome ballpark...if you like baseball. Another nice place for lunch is the
Durgin Park Oyster Bar. It's in Quincy Market just a block or so from the
Union Oyster House. Make sure you go downstairs to the Oyster Bar, and not
up to the main restaurant (which is good also).

The aquarium is a nice couple of hours as well.

--Mike

"Chuck Gould" wrote in message
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Headed out to Boston/Salem/Topsfield next week.

Will wander around where my Puritan ancestors first set up shop in
America. (ggggggg...Great Grandpa Zaccheus' house is on the national
register of historic places in Topsfield, as is another
gggggggg....grandfather's barn)

Going to visit Old Ironsides (she's moored in Boston, right?)

Since I seldom get back to the right hand side of the country, are
there any other "must sees" during a few days in Boston?

Visiting Old Ironsides......what else to do in Boston?
 

Bert Robbins wrote:


When we were up at The Farm, Rye NH, in Aug 2005 we went to Plymouth and
saw the rock. My wife the Geologist/Chemist wasn't impressed and thought
it looked like a very large river rock. I insisted on taking a picture
of the wife and kids and The Rock.

Plymouth Rock might be a good one. Thanks for the suggestion.
Too many things to see, and undoubtedly not enough time. :-)

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Shortwave Sportfishing wrote:
On 22 Sep 2006 10:30:24 -0700, "Chuck Gould"
wrote:

Headed out to Boston/Salem/Topsfield next week.

Will wander around where my Puritan ancestors first set up shop in
America. (ggggggg...Great Grandpa Zaccheus' house is on the national
register of historic places in Topsfield, as is another
gggggggg....grandfather's barn)

Going to visit Old Ironsides (she's moored in Boston, right?)

Since I seldom get back to the right hand side of the country, are
there any other "must sees" during a few days in Boston?

Hey if you want and depending on when you are in the Salem area, let
me know and I'd be glad to come up and take you for a tour of Salem
and the surrounding area including Marblehead where the famous
painting "Spirit of '76" resides. I would love to hook up with you
and show you the sites where I grew up including where the keel of the
Constitution was layed. I can also show you where one of the more
infamous incidents in Marblehead history was accomplished - and to say
that I was involved in it, directly, would be an understatement. :)

In Salem, they've redone a lot of the downtown area, along with
Marblehead. If you want really good seafood in a harbor type
atmosphere, try The Barnicle in Marblehead. Right on the water, you
get a great view of some of the famous yacht clubs - Eastern,
Corinthian and up by Chandler Hovey park, George O'Day's castle and
the Boston Yacht Club.

I'll even buy dinner - or lunch - take your pick.

I'll need to check itinerary with the wife and the daughter, but dinner
might be fun. (Dutch).

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"Harry Krause" wrote in message

I always have a good time in Boston. BTW, right across the street from the
Parker House is a very old cemetery with some interesting headstones,

.....not to mention King's Chapel.

and a few blocks away there's the Old Granary cemetery, with
the graves of John Hancock, Samuel Adams, Thomas Paine, and Paul Revere.

......and the Old South Meetinghouse, whence came all those riled up
"indians" who went and dumped all that tea in the harbor!

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"Eisboch" wrote in message

Stop for lunch and a brew at the Union Oyster House.

.....or next door, at the Bell in Hand -- the oldest continuously operating
tavern in the US, dating to 1795.

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" JimH" not telling you @ pffftt.com wrote in message

Don't forget a lunch at the original Cheers bar!

This was the Bull and Finch, a great place in the basement of the Hampshire
House, on Beacon near Arlington. Then it was used as a model for Cheers,
and got "discovered". :-(

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"Chuck Gould" wrote in message

A couple days in Boston, a couple of days in Salem and Topsfield,

If Boston time is constrained, a combo of the Freedom Trail plus a Duck Tour
will really increase your bang for the buck. Alternatively, a nice walk
around the Common, Public Garden, and Beacon Hill would be a really pleasant
couple of hours and wrap in a lot of history, too.

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"MGG" wrote in message
t...
...Plymouth where you can stand in awe of the famous Plymouth Rock.
:-)

It just looks so much bigger on the postcards. :-

--Mike



It does.

Contrary to folklore, the Pilgrims did not first set foot on land at
Plymouth.
They first landed at the tip of Cape Cod at what was to become Provincetown.
A group of men were sent out in the jonboat to find a safe harbor further
into the bay.
They rowed the 23 or so miles across Cape Cod Bay, found (to be) Plymouth
Harbor, and rowed back to report their findings. Tough dudes and dudettes
in those days. The "rock" is the symbolic stepping stone in Plymouth.

Eisboch

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"Chuck Gould" wrote in message
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Bert Robbins wrote:


When we were up at The Farm, Rye NH, in Aug 2005 we went to Plymouth and
saw the rock. My wife the Geologist/Chemist wasn't impressed and thought
it looked like a very large river rock. I insisted on taking a picture
of the wife and kids and The Rock.

Plymouth Rock might be a good one. Thanks for the suggestion.
Too many things to see, and undoubtedly not enough time. :-)


They are not even sure it is the correct rock, and it has been moved over
the years. We actually enjoyed the tour of the Ocean Spray Cranberry
headquarters and their museum / display. Plymouth Plantation was under
whelming. The Red Line tour of Boston is good. Is a Red painted line, and
walkable. At least I remember it to be red.

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"Calif Bill" wrote in message news:ZxnRg.431

They are not even sure it is the correct rock, and it has been moved over
the years.

It has certainly been moved, broken in two, repaired, relocated, buried in a
landfill pier, recovered, chiseled down in size by souvenir hunters and, in
time, revered. Nathaniel Philbrick, in his history 'Mayflower', relates
what seems to be a well researched account of the rock from about 1741
onward. The crux is, of course, that the consideration that this is "the
rock" is based solely on the 1741 testimony of one Thomas Faunce, then aged
95, who claimed the rock was shown to him as the landing point by his
father, who had arrived in the colony in 1623. Civic leaders and civic
groups took it from there, and the legend of Plymouth Rock was off and
running. It may be true, and it may not. The story is only two steps
removed from a primary source, but those steps can loom huge.

In any event, even if the famed Plymouth Rock is the first footfall at the
Plymouth Colony, it certainly was not the place where the Pilgrim travellers
first set foot on New World soil. That, as another pointed out, was at
Provincetown.

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"John Gaquin" wrote in message
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"Calif Bill" wrote in message news:ZxnRg.431

They are not even sure it is the correct rock, and it has been moved over
the years.

It has certainly been moved, broken in two, repaired, relocated, buried in
a landfill pier, recovered, chiseled down in size by souvenir hunters and,
in time, revered. Nathaniel Philbrick, in his history 'Mayflower',
relates what seems to be a well researched account of the rock from about
1741 onward. The crux is, of course, that the consideration that this is
"the rock" is based solely on the 1741 testimony of one Thomas Faunce,
then aged 95, who claimed the rock was shown to him as the landing point
by his father, who had arrived in the colony in 1623. Civic leaders and
civic groups took it from there, and the legend of Plymouth Rock was off
and running. It may be true, and it may not. The story is only two steps
removed from a primary source, but those steps can loom huge.

In any event, even if the famed Plymouth Rock is the first footfall at the
Plymouth Colony, it certainly was not the place where the Pilgrim
travellers first set foot on New World soil. That, as another pointed
out, was at Provincetown.

News Flash: http://www.oldcity.com/history-information.cfmws

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"Jim" wrote in message
link.net...

"John Gaquin" wrote in message
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"Calif Bill" wrote in message news:ZxnRg.431

They are not even sure it is the correct rock, and it has been moved
over the years.

It has certainly been moved, broken in two, repaired, relocated, buried
in a landfill pier, recovered, chiseled down in size by souvenir hunters
and, in time, revered. Nathaniel Philbrick, in his history 'Mayflower',
relates what seems to be a well researched account of the rock from about
1741 onward. The crux is, of course, that the consideration that this is
"the rock" is based solely on the 1741 testimony of one Thomas Faunce,
then aged 95, who claimed the rock was shown to him as the landing point
by his father, who had arrived in the colony in 1623. Civic leaders and
civic groups took it from there, and the legend of Plymouth Rock was off
and running. It may be true, and it may not. The story is only two
steps removed from a primary source, but those steps can loom huge.

In any event, even if the famed Plymouth Rock is the first footfall at
the Plymouth Colony, it certainly was not the place where the Pilgrim
travellers first set foot on New World soil. That, as another pointed
out, was at Provincetown.

News Flash: http://www.oldcity.com/history-information.cfmws


Sorry. That link was bad. Try this one

http://www.oldcity.com/history-information.cfm

Jim

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"Jim" wrote in message
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http://www.oldcity.com/history-information.cfm

Jim

Yabut, *they* were not Pilgrims.

They were recently retired Europeans.

Eisboch

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"Eisboch" wrote in message
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"Jim" wrote in message
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http://www.oldcity.com/history-information.cfm

Jim

Yabut, *they* were not Pilgrims.

They were recently retired Europeans.

Eisboch

Ya mean these guys?
From the journal of William Bradford...


Describing the Pilgrims’ Separatist religious beliefs :
"The one side [the Reformers] laboured to have ye right worship of God
& discipline of Christ established in ye church, according to ye simplicitie
of ye gospell, without the mixture of mens inventions, and to have & to be
ruled by ye laws of Gods word, dispensed in those offices, & by those
officers of Pastors, Teachers, & Elders, &c. according to ye Scripturs. The
other partie [the Church of England], though under many colours & pretences,
endevored to have ye episcopall dignitie (affter ye popish maner) with their
large power & jurisdiction still retained; with all those courts, cannons, &
ceremonies, togeather with all such livings, revenues, & subordinate
officers, with other such means as formerly upheld their antichristian
greatnes, and enabled them with lordly & tyranous power to persecute ye
poore servants of God."

Jim

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http://www.oldcity.com/history-information.cfm

Jim

Yabut, *they* were not Pilgrims.

They were recently retired Europeans.

Eisboch

Ya mean these guys?
From the journal of William Bradford...




I think you need to go out and water your bananas.

Eisboch

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Jim

Yabut, *they* were not Pilgrims.

They were recently retired Europeans.

Eisboch

Ya mean these guys?
From the journal of William Bradford...




I think you need to go out and water your bananas.

Eisboch
Splain yerself, Pilgrim.

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"Jim" wrote in message news:O9uRg.11690$v%

In any event, even if the famed Plymouth Rock is the first footfall at
the Plymouth Colony, it certainly was not the place where the Pilgrim
travellers first set foot on New World soil. That, as another pointed
out, was at Provincetown.

News Flash: http://www.oldcity.com/history-information.cfm

I just knew there'd be someone to start ranting about St Augustine, or
Jamestown, or some other such thing. I was referring, Jim, -and I think
clearly-to the founders of the Plymouth Colony. Note above where I said
"...the place where the Pilgrim travellers first set foot...". Note that I
said "...*the* Pilgrim travellers...". I specifically did not say "...the
place where pilgrim travellers...", which would have implied a reference to
*any* New World settlers.

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"Jim" wrote in message news:O9uRg.11690$v%

In any event, even if the famed Plymouth Rock is the first footfall at
the Plymouth Colony, it certainly was not the place where the Pilgrim
travellers first set foot on New World soil. That, as another pointed
out, was at Provincetown.

News Flash: http://www.oldcity.com/history-information.cfm

I just knew there'd be someone to start ranting about St Augustine, or
Jamestown, or some other such thing. I was referring, Jim, -and I think
clearly-to the founders of the Plymouth Colony. Note above where I said
"...the place where the Pilgrim travellers first set foot...". Note that
I said "...*the* Pilgrim travellers...". I specifically did not say
"...the place where pilgrim travellers...", which would have implied a
reference to *any* New World settlers.

Ranting? No. Just expanding a little on the time line of the exploration and
settlement of the new world. I kind of lost track of the purpose of this
thread, which was to educate the pilgrim from Seattle about tourist
attractions in the Boston area.
Sorry about that,
Jim

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Ranting? No. Just expanding a little on the time line of the exploration
and settlement of the new world. I kind of lost track of the purpose of
this thread, which was to educate the pilgrim from Seattle about tourist
attractions in the Boston area.
Sorry about that,
Jim


It's ok. Go have a banana.

Eisboch

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"Jim" wrote in message news:geQRg.1142


Ranting? No. Just expanding a little on the time line of the exploration
and settlement of the new world. I kind of lost track of the purpose of
this thread, which was to educate the pilgrim from Seattle about tourist
attractions in the Boston area.
Sorry about that,
Jim


It's ok. Go have a banana.
Not ripe yet.
Go count cylinders before they start disappearing.

Eisboch