Stupidity is Contagious
 

It filters right down from the upper echelons of the guvmint, apparently.

This should be interesting. The article includes maps showing proposed
training zones. If you look at the maps and still think this plan is a good
one, please be quiet. You are not familiar with the areas in question.

**ACTION ALERT**
U.S. Coast Guard Proposes Using Great Lakes as Firing Range
Gunfire Exercises Endanger Public and the Environment

Comment by November 13, 2006
**Please distribute this information to interested parties in the U.S.
and Canada**

The United States Coast Guard, Ninth District, is proposing to conduct
live fire training throughout the Great Lakes. Great Lakes United has
serious concerns that gunfire exercises on the Great Lakes will put the
safety of the public and the environment at risk, and urges comment into
this serious issue. Please note: this alert does not question whether
Coast Guard personnel should be trained to handle weapons, rather whether
significant portions of the Great Lakes should be designated for live
fire military training.

Background:
The Ninth Coast Guard District is proposing the establishment of 34 live
fire safety zones throughout the Great Lakes, covering a combined total
of 2,376 square miles or 2.5% of the Lakes surface area. The safety
zones will be used to train Coast Guard personnel in maritime law
enforcement, national defense and homeland security using live 7.62mm
NATO rounds fired from lightweight automatic weapons. The proposed zones
would be permanent, and at this time are proposed for use "a few times in
a calendar year. with each exercise lasting approximately 4-6 hours". The
Coast Guard plans to alert the public in advance of all live gunfire
exercises through broadcasts on a marine band radio channel which is used
for distress, weather updates and marine information; they will also
employ an observer to monitor the safety zone throughout the exercise.
The Coast Guard also states that two independent environmental consulting
companies have determined that the use of live weapons on the Great Lakes
will present "no elevated risk to humans or the environment".

You can view maps identifying the location of the live fire safety zones:
4 zones in Lake Erie at: http://piersystem.com/go/doc/443/131148/
3 zones in Lake Ontario at: http://piersystem.com/go/doc/443/131143/
7 zones in Lake Superior at: http://piersystem.com/go/doc/443/131141/
6 zones in Lake Huron at: http://piersystem.com/go/doc/443/131146/
7 zones in upper Lake Michigan at:
http://piersystem.com/go/doc/443/131144/
7 zones in lower Lake Michigan at:
http://piersystem.com/go/doc/443/131144/


--
Scott
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On Thu, 21 Sep 2006 17:07:50 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

It filters right down from the upper echelons of the guvmint, apparently.

This should be interesting. The article includes maps showing proposed
training zones. If you look at the maps and still think this plan is a good
one, please be quiet. You are not familiar with the areas in question.

Yeah, right. You are just going to put something like this on a
newsgroup posting and tell everyone who disagrees with YOUR obviously
superior intellect to just shut up. I imagine you can kiss a lot of
people's asses. I think I trust the Coast Guard to know the Great
Lakes better than I trust you.

Dave Hall
**ACTION ALERT**
U.S. Coast Guard Proposes Using Great Lakes as Firing Range
Gunfire Exercises Endanger Public and the Environment

Comment by November 13, 2006
**Please distribute this information to interested parties in the U.S.
and Canada**

The United States Coast Guard, Ninth District, is proposing to conduct
live fire training throughout the Great Lakes. Great Lakes United has
serious concerns that gunfire exercises on the Great Lakes will put the
safety of the public and the environment at risk, and urges comment into
this serious issue. Please note: this alert does not question whether
Coast Guard personnel should be trained to handle weapons, rather whether
significant portions of the Great Lakes should be designated for live
fire military training.

Background:
The Ninth Coast Guard District is proposing the establishment of 34 live
fire safety zones throughout the Great Lakes, covering a combined total
of 2,376 square miles or 2.5% of the Lakes surface area. The safety
zones will be used to train Coast Guard personnel in maritime law
enforcement, national defense and homeland security using live 7.62mm
NATO rounds fired from lightweight automatic weapons. The proposed zones
would be permanent, and at this time are proposed for use "a few times in
a calendar year. with each exercise lasting approximately 4-6 hours". The
Coast Guard plans to alert the public in advance of all live gunfire
exercises through broadcasts on a marine band radio channel which is used
for distress, weather updates and marine information; they will also
employ an observer to monitor the safety zone throughout the exercise.
The Coast Guard also states that two independent environmental consulting
companies have determined that the use of live weapons on the Great Lakes
will present "no elevated risk to humans or the environment".

You can view maps identifying the location of the live fire safety zones:
4 zones in Lake Erie at: http://piersystem.com/go/doc/443/131148/
3 zones in Lake Ontario at: http://piersystem.com/go/doc/443/131143/
7 zones in Lake Superior at: http://piersystem.com/go/doc/443/131141/
6 zones in Lake Huron at: http://piersystem.com/go/doc/443/131146/
7 zones in upper Lake Michigan at:
http://piersystem.com/go/doc/443/131144/
7 zones in lower Lake Michigan at:
http://piersystem.com/go/doc/443/131144/

Stupidity is Contagious
 

"Dave Hall" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 21 Sep 2006 17:07:50 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

It filters right down from the upper echelons of the guvmint, apparently.

This should be interesting. The article includes maps showing proposed
training zones. If you look at the maps and still think this plan is a
good
one, please be quiet. You are not familiar with the areas in question.

Yeah, right. You are just going to put something like this on a
newsgroup posting and tell everyone who disagrees with YOUR obviously
superior intellect to just shut up. I imagine you can kiss a lot of
people's asses. I think I trust the Coast Guard to know the Great
Lakes better than I trust you.

Dave Hall
**ACTION ALERT**
U.S. Coast Guard Proposes Using Great Lakes as Firing Range
Gunfire Exercises Endanger Public and the Environment

Comment by November 13, 2006
**Please distribute this information to interested parties in the U.S.
and Canada**

The United States Coast Guard, Ninth District, is proposing to conduct
live fire training throughout the Great Lakes. Great Lakes United has
serious concerns that gunfire exercises on the Great Lakes will put the
safety of the public and the environment at risk, and urges comment into
this serious issue. Please note: this alert does not question whether
Coast Guard personnel should be trained to handle weapons, rather whether
significant portions of the Great Lakes should be designated for live
fire military training.

Background:
The Ninth Coast Guard District is proposing the establishment of 34 live
fire safety zones throughout the Great Lakes, covering a combined total
of 2,376 square miles or 2.5% of the Lakes surface area. The safety
zones will be used to train Coast Guard personnel in maritime law
enforcement, national defense and homeland security using live 7.62mm
NATO rounds fired from lightweight automatic weapons. The proposed zones
would be permanent, and at this time are proposed for use "a few times in
a calendar year. with each exercise lasting approximately 4-6 hours". The
Coast Guard plans to alert the public in advance of all live gunfire
exercises through broadcasts on a marine band radio channel which is used
for distress, weather updates and marine information; they will also
employ an observer to monitor the safety zone throughout the exercise.
The Coast Guard also states that two independent environmental consulting
companies have determined that the use of live weapons on the Great Lakes
will present "no elevated risk to humans or the environment".

You can view maps identifying the location of the live fire safety zones:
4 zones in Lake Erie at: http://piersystem.com/go/doc/443/131148/
3 zones in Lake Ontario at: http://piersystem.com/go/doc/443/131143/
7 zones in Lake Superior at: http://piersystem.com/go/doc/443/131141/
6 zones in Lake Huron at: http://piersystem.com/go/doc/443/131146/
7 zones in upper Lake Michigan at:
http://piersystem.com/go/doc/443/131144/
7 zones in lower Lake Michigan at:
http://piersystem.com/go/doc/443/131144/

There are designated firing areas on Lake Erie for pistol and rifle firing
by the National Guard at Camp Perry (largest firing range in the world
http://www.globalsecurity.org/milita...camp-perry.htm ). The area
is well marked and warnings are posted on the marine radio when live firing
is being conducted. I am not aware of any problems to boaters due to the
live fire activity.

As the zones will be permanent I suspect that the USCG will operate with the
same, if not more stringent cautions and restrictions.

;-)

Stupidity is Contagious
 

"Dave Hall" wrote in message
...

Yeah, right. You are just going to put something like this on a
newsgroup posting and tell everyone who disagrees with YOUR obviously
superior intellect to just shut up. I imagine you can kiss a lot of
people's asses. I think I trust the Coast Guard to know the Great
Lakes better than I trust you.

Dave Hall

As I said, if you have no idea what you're talking about, be very quiet.

Stupidity is Contagious
 

The proposed zones
would be permanent, and at this time are proposed for use "a few times in
a calendar year. with each exercise lasting approximately 4-6 hours". The
Coast Guard plans to alert the public in advance of all live gunfire
exercises through broadcasts on a marine band radio channel which is used
for distress, weather updates and marine information; they will also
employ an observer to monitor the safety zone throughout the exercise.

So they're going to give us a clear definition of the areas involved and use
their existing practices of notifying mariners well in advance. Sounds like
a good plan. The charting companies will be able to update their materials
so anyone planning a route can double-check for any planned actions.

If all you want to do is whinge about gov't activities you can probably a)
find better newsgroups for it and b) find something a lot more "stupid" than
this otherwise reasonable sounding plan.

Stupidity is Contagious
 

"Bill Kearney" wrote in message
t...
The proposed zones
would be permanent, and at this time are proposed for use "a few times in
a calendar year. with each exercise lasting approximately 4-6 hours". The
Coast Guard plans to alert the public in advance of all live gunfire
exercises through broadcasts on a marine band radio channel which is used
for distress, weather updates and marine information; they will also
employ an observer to monitor the safety zone throughout the exercise.

So they're going to give us a clear definition of the areas involved and
use
their existing practices of notifying mariners well in advance. Sounds
like
a good plan. The charting companies will be able to update their
materials
so anyone planning a route can double-check for any planned actions.

If all you want to do is whinge about gov't activities you can probably a)
find better newsgroups for it and b) find something a lot more "stupid"
than
this otherwise reasonable sounding plan.


Unfortunately, the area designated near Rochester is A-1 trout fishing
territory. This plan will run into trouble. As I said before, if you have no
idea what you're talking about, be very quiet.

Stupidity is Contagious
 

JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
It filters right down from the upper echelons of the guvmint, apparently.

This should be interesting. The article includes maps showing proposed
training zones. If you look at the maps and still think this plan is a good
one, please be quiet. You are not familiar with the areas in question.

**ACTION ALERT**
U.S. Coast Guard Proposes Using Great Lakes as Firing Range
Gunfire Exercises Endanger Public and the Environment

Comment by November 13, 2006
**Please distribute this information to interested parties in the U.S.
and Canada**

The United States Coast Guard, Ninth District, is proposing to conduct
live fire training throughout the Great Lakes. Great Lakes United has
serious concerns that gunfire exercises on the Great Lakes will put the
safety of the public and the environment at risk, and urges comment into
this serious issue. Please note: this alert does not question whether
Coast Guard personnel should be trained to handle weapons, rather whether
significant portions of the Great Lakes should be designated for live
fire military training.

Background:
The Ninth Coast Guard District is proposing the establishment of 34 live
fire safety zones throughout the Great Lakes, covering a combined total
of 2,376 square miles or 2.5% of the Lakes surface area. The safety
zones will be used to train Coast Guard personnel in maritime law
enforcement, national defense and homeland security using live 7.62mm
NATO rounds fired from lightweight automatic weapons. The proposed zones
would be permanent, and at this time are proposed for use "a few times in
a calendar year. with each exercise lasting approximately 4-6 hours". The
Coast Guard plans to alert the public in advance of all live gunfire
exercises through broadcasts on a marine band radio channel which is used
for distress, weather updates and marine information; they will also
employ an observer to monitor the safety zone throughout the exercise.
The Coast Guard also states that two independent environmental consulting
companies have determined that the use of live weapons on the Great Lakes
will present "no elevated risk to humans or the environment".

You can view maps identifying the location of the live fire safety zones:
4 zones in Lake Erie at: http://piersystem.com/go/doc/443/131148/
3 zones in Lake Ontario at: http://piersystem.com/go/doc/443/131143/
7 zones in Lake Superior at: http://piersystem.com/go/doc/443/131141/
6 zones in Lake Huron at: http://piersystem.com/go/doc/443/131146/
7 zones in upper Lake Michigan at:
http://piersystem.com/go/doc/443/131144/
7 zones in lower Lake Michigan at:
http://piersystem.com/go/doc/443/131144/


Let them use the Navy's area off Puerto Rico. To hell with the Fidel's
separatists plants.

Stupidity is Contagious
 

Where else are they going to get their on the water live fire training?
You do what the Coast Guardsmen to be able to hit the targerts they are
shooting at when it really counts don't you. Well, you have to make it a
real as possible. And, an on the hard firing range won't cut it.

JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
It filters right down from the upper echelons of the guvmint, apparently.

This should be interesting. The article includes maps showing proposed
training zones. If you look at the maps and still think this plan is a good
one, please be quiet. You are not familiar with the areas in question.

**ACTION ALERT**
U.S. Coast Guard Proposes Using Great Lakes as Firing Range
Gunfire Exercises Endanger Public and the Environment

Comment by November 13, 2006
**Please distribute this information to interested parties in the U.S.
and Canada**

The United States Coast Guard, Ninth District, is proposing to conduct
live fire training throughout the Great Lakes. Great Lakes United has
serious concerns that gunfire exercises on the Great Lakes will put the
safety of the public and the environment at risk, and urges comment into
this serious issue. Please note: this alert does not question whether
Coast Guard personnel should be trained to handle weapons, rather whether
significant portions of the Great Lakes should be designated for live
fire military training.

Background:
The Ninth Coast Guard District is proposing the establishment of 34 live
fire safety zones throughout the Great Lakes, covering a combined total
of 2,376 square miles or 2.5% of the Lakes surface area. The safety
zones will be used to train Coast Guard personnel in maritime law
enforcement, national defense and homeland security using live 7.62mm
NATO rounds fired from lightweight automatic weapons. The proposed zones
would be permanent, and at this time are proposed for use "a few times in
a calendar year. with each exercise lasting approximately 4-6 hours". The
Coast Guard plans to alert the public in advance of all live gunfire
exercises through broadcasts on a marine band radio channel which is used
for distress, weather updates and marine information; they will also
employ an observer to monitor the safety zone throughout the exercise.
The Coast Guard also states that two independent environmental consulting
companies have determined that the use of live weapons on the Great Lakes
will present "no elevated risk to humans or the environment".

You can view maps identifying the location of the live fire safety zones:
4 zones in Lake Erie at: http://piersystem.com/go/doc/443/131148/
3 zones in Lake Ontario at: http://piersystem.com/go/doc/443/131143/
7 zones in Lake Superior at: http://piersystem.com/go/doc/443/131141/
6 zones in Lake Huron at: http://piersystem.com/go/doc/443/131146/
7 zones in upper Lake Michigan at:
http://piersystem.com/go/doc/443/131144/
7 zones in lower Lake Michigan at:
http://piersystem.com/go/doc/443/131144/

Stupidity is Contagious
 

"Bert Robbins" wrote in message
. ..
Where else are they going to get their on the water live fire training?
You do what the Coast Guardsmen to be able to hit the targerts they are
shooting at when it really counts don't you. Well, you have to make it a
real as possible. And, an on the hard firing range won't cut it.

1) On Lake Ontario, the areas have been placed in 3 of the busiest boating
lanes.

2) Guns which are attached to the boat must be practiced with on the water.
These are not the weapons mentioned in the article.

Stupidity is Contagious
 

JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
"Bert Robbins" wrote in message
. ..
Where else are they going to get their on the water live fire training?
You do what the Coast Guardsmen to be able to hit the targerts they are
shooting at when it really counts don't you. Well, you have to make it a
real as possible. And, an on the hard firing range won't cut it.

1) On Lake Ontario, the areas have been placed in 3 of the busiest boating
lanes.

In the Chesapeake and along the Virginia Capes there are quite a few
areas that are set aside for military training. The are marked on the
charts and are cleared before any of the bombing or shooting occurs.

Fact of life now, just deal with it.

2) Guns which are attached to the boat must be practiced with on the water.
These are not the weapons mentioned in the article.

What weapons is the CG mounting on their small craft interdiction boats
these days. 40mm? 20mm? 50Cal.? 7.62?

Stupidity is Contagious
 

"Bert Robbins" wrote in message
. ..
JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
"Bert Robbins" wrote in message
. ..
Where else are they going to get their on the water live fire training?
You do what the Coast Guardsmen to be able to hit the targerts they are
shooting at when it really counts don't you. Well, you have to make it a
real as possible. And, an on the hard firing range won't cut it.

1) On Lake Ontario, the areas have been placed in 3 of the busiest
boating lanes.

In the Chesapeake and along the Virginia Capes there are quite a few areas
that are set aside for military training. The are marked on the charts and
are cleared before any of the bombing or shooting occurs.

Fact of life now, just deal with it.

2) Guns which are attached to the boat must be practiced with on the
water. These are not the weapons mentioned in the article.

What weapons is the CG mounting on their small craft interdiction boats
these days. 40mm? 20mm? 50Cal.? 7.62?

Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzz..........

Stupidity is Contagious
 

Unfortunately, the area designated near Rochester is A-1 trout fishing
territory. This plan will run into trouble. As I said before, if you have
no
idea what you're talking about, be very quiet.

Given the infrenquency with which these areas are likely to get used I'd say
it's hardly of any consequence.

As for 'be quiet' what's your point? Shut the **** up if they don't agree
with you? Go straight to hell with that nonsense.

Stupidity is Contagious
 

"Bill Kearney" wrote in message
t...
Unfortunately, the area designated near Rochester is A-1 trout fishing
territory. This plan will run into trouble. As I said before, if you have
no
idea what you're talking about, be very quiet.

Given the infrenquency with which these areas are likely to get used I'd
say
it's hardly of any consequence.

As for 'be quiet' what's your point? Shut the **** up if they don't agree
with you? Go straight to hell with that nonsense.


If you haven't literally travelled the area, it's impossible for you to know
anything about how the plan will impact local residents. You know that.

Stupidity is Contagious
 

On Thu, 21 Sep 2006 23:11:25 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

"Dave Hall" wrote in message
.. .

Yeah, right. You are just going to put something like this on a
newsgroup posting and tell everyone who disagrees with YOUR obviously
superior intellect to just shut up. I imagine you can kiss a lot of
people's asses. I think I trust the Coast Guard to know the Great
Lakes better than I trust you.

Dave Hall

As I said, if you have no idea what you're talking about, be very quiet.

As I said, KMA

Dave Hall

Stupidity is Contagious
 

"Dave Hall" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 21 Sep 2006 23:11:25 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

"Dave Hall" wrote in message
. ..

Yeah, right. You are just going to put something like this on a
newsgroup posting and tell everyone who disagrees with YOUR obviously
superior intellect to just shut up. I imagine you can kiss a lot of
people's asses. I think I trust the Coast Guard to know the Great
Lakes better than I trust you.

Dave Hall

As I said, if you have no idea what you're talking about, be very quiet.

As I said, KMA

Dave Hall

So, you're familiar with the areas around Buffalo and Rochester. I see.

Stupidity is Contagious
 

If you haven't literally travelled the area, it's impossible for you to
know
anything about how the plan will impact local residents. You know that.

Ah, but if the experience gained there helps train the personnel then it
benefits all of us. We've got several areas around the Chesapeake and many
other areas have similar situations and gosh, somehow, we've all managed to
get along with their WELL COORDINATED advance notice.

So please, flail your chicken little hype elsewhere.

Stupidity is Contagious
 

"Bill Kearney" wrote in message
...
If you haven't literally travelled the area, it's impossible for you to
know
anything about how the plan will impact local residents. You know that.

Ah, but if the experience gained there helps train the personnel then it
benefits all of us. We've got several areas around the Chesapeake and
many
other areas have similar situations and gosh, somehow, we've all managed
to
get along with their WELL COORDINATED advance notice.

So please, flail your chicken little hype elsewhere.


Oh please...shooting an AK-47 clone from a boat is no different from doing
it in a cornfield. I've done both. Thanks for playing, though.

Stupidity is Contagious
 

JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
"Bill Kearney" wrote in message
...
If you haven't literally travelled the area, it's impossible for you to
know
anything about how the plan will impact local residents. You know that.

Ah, but if the experience gained there helps train the personnel then it
benefits all of us. We've got several areas around the Chesapeake and
many
other areas have similar situations and gosh, somehow, we've all managed
to
get along with their WELL COORDINATED advance notice.

So please, flail your chicken little hype elsewhere.


Oh please...shooting an AK-47 clone from a boat is no different from doing
it in a cornfield. I've done both. Thanks for playing, though.

That has to be the funniest comment I have heard in years! You are one
funny guy!

What is it like to be the master of everything Doug?

Is there anything you have not done, experienced or knows the answer
of?

Shall we call you...........Master Kanter? ROTF!

Stupidity is Contagious
 

"JimH" wrote in message
oups.com...

JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
"Bill Kearney" wrote in message
...
If you haven't literally travelled the area, it's impossible for you
to
know
anything about how the plan will impact local residents. You know
that.

Ah, but if the experience gained there helps train the personnel then
it
benefits all of us. We've got several areas around the Chesapeake and
many
other areas have similar situations and gosh, somehow, we've all
managed
to
get along with their WELL COORDINATED advance notice.

So please, flail your chicken little hype elsewhere.


Oh please...shooting an AK-47 clone from a boat is no different from
doing
it in a cornfield. I've done both. Thanks for playing, though.

That has to be the funniest comment I have heard in years! You are one
funny guy!

What is it like to be the master of everything Doug?

Is there anything you have not done, experienced or knows the answer
of?

Shall we call you...........Master Kanter? ROTF!


That's a good title, asshole. If I'd never shot a weapon using the ammo
that's most commonly used everywhere on earth, I would not have begun this
thread.

Stupidity is Contagious
 

JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
"JimH" wrote in message
oups.com...

JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
"Bill Kearney" wrote in message
...
If you haven't literally travelled the area, it's impossible for you
to
know
anything about how the plan will impact local residents. You know
that.

Ah, but if the experience gained there helps train the personnel then
it
benefits all of us. We've got several areas around the Chesapeake and
many
other areas have similar situations and gosh, somehow, we've all
managed
to
get along with their WELL COORDINATED advance notice.

So please, flail your chicken little hype elsewhere.


Oh please...shooting an AK-47 clone from a boat is no different from
doing
it in a cornfield. I've done both. Thanks for playing, though.

That has to be the funniest comment I have heard in years! You are one
funny guy!

What is it like to be the master of everything Doug?

Is there anything you have not done, experienced or knows the answer
of?

Shall we call you...........Master Kanter? ROTF!


That's a good title....


ROTF! I agree!

Stupidity is Contagious
 

JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
"Bill Kearney" wrote in message
...
If you haven't literally travelled the area, it's impossible for you to
know
anything about how the plan will impact local residents. You know that.
Ah, but if the experience gained there helps train the personnel then it
benefits all of us. We've got several areas around the Chesapeake and
many
other areas have similar situations and gosh, somehow, we've all managed
to
get along with their WELL COORDINATED advance notice.

So please, flail your chicken little hype elsewhere.


Oh please...shooting an AK-47 clone from a boat is no different from doing
it in a cornfield. I've done both. Thanks for playing, though.

You really do come off as a pompous ass when you make statements above.

Proficiency with a firearm requires constant practice.

Stupidity is Contagious
 

"Bert Robbins" wrote in message
...
JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
"Bill Kearney" wrote in message
...
If you haven't literally travelled the area, it's impossible for you to
know
anything about how the plan will impact local residents. You know that.
Ah, but if the experience gained there helps train the personnel then it
benefits all of us. We've got several areas around the Chesapeake and
many
other areas have similar situations and gosh, somehow, we've all managed
to
get along with their WELL COORDINATED advance notice.

So please, flail your chicken little hype elsewhere.


Oh please...shooting an AK-47 clone from a boat is no different from
doing it in a cornfield. I've done both. Thanks for playing, though.

You really do come off as a pompous ass when you make statements above.

Proficiency with a firearm requires constant practice.

Yes, but it doesn't require practice in the same location 100% of the time.
You are predisposed to disagree with me because I have issues with your
retarded president. Try and separate that from other subjects.

Stupidity is Contagious
 

JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
"Bert Robbins" wrote in message
...
JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
"Bill Kearney" wrote in message
...
If you haven't literally travelled the area, it's impossible for you to
know
anything about how the plan will impact local residents. You know that.
Ah, but if the experience gained there helps train the personnel then it
benefits all of us. We've got several areas around the Chesapeake and
many
other areas have similar situations and gosh, somehow, we've all managed
to
get along with their WELL COORDINATED advance notice.

So please, flail your chicken little hype elsewhere.

Oh please...shooting an AK-47 clone from a boat is no different from
doing it in a cornfield. I've done both. Thanks for playing, though.
You really do come off as a pompous ass when you make statements above.

Proficiency with a firearm requires constant practice.

Yes, but it doesn't require practice in the same location 100% of the time.
You are predisposed to disagree with me because I have issues with your
retarded president. Try and separate that from other subjects.

I don't have issues with you, I just believe that you are the most self
centered, antagonistic and difficult person I have ever had the
displeasure of interacting with. But, I keep screwing with you because
you get wound so tight and go spinning off in any and every direction.

Try looking at the issues from the other guys perspective once in a while.

Stupidity is Contagious
 

"Bert Robbins" wrote in message
. ..
JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
"Bert Robbins" wrote in message
...
JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
"Bill Kearney" wrote in message
...
If you haven't literally travelled the area, it's impossible for you
to
know
anything about how the plan will impact local residents. You know
that.
Ah, but if the experience gained there helps train the personnel then
it
benefits all of us. We've got several areas around the Chesapeake and
many
other areas have similar situations and gosh, somehow, we've all
managed to
get along with their WELL COORDINATED advance notice.

So please, flail your chicken little hype elsewhere.

Oh please...shooting an AK-47 clone from a boat is no different from
doing it in a cornfield. I've done both. Thanks for playing, though.
You really do come off as a pompous ass when you make statements above.

Proficiency with a firearm requires constant practice.

Yes, but it doesn't require practice in the same location 100% of the
time. You are predisposed to disagree with me because I have issues with
your retarded president. Try and separate that from other subjects.

I don't have issues with you, I just believe that you are the most self
centered, antagonistic and difficult person I have ever had the
displeasure of interacting with. But, I keep screwing with you because you
get wound so tight and go spinning off in any and every direction.

*I* get wound up? 99% of the time, you are unable to answer questions put
to you, Einstein.


Try looking at the issues from the other guys perspective once in a while.

And what do you imagine to be the "other guy's perspective" in this
particular situation?

Stupidity is Contagious
 

JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
"Bert Robbins" wrote in message
. ..
JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
"Bert Robbins" wrote in message
...
JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
"Bill Kearney" wrote in message
...
If you haven't literally travelled the area, it's impossible for you
to
know
anything about how the plan will impact local residents. You know
that.
Ah, but if the experience gained there helps train the personnel then
it
benefits all of us. We've got several areas around the Chesapeake and
many
other areas have similar situations and gosh, somehow, we've all
managed to
get along with their WELL COORDINATED advance notice.

So please, flail your chicken little hype elsewhere.

Oh please...shooting an AK-47 clone from a boat is no different from
doing it in a cornfield. I've done both. Thanks for playing, though.
You really do come off as a pompous ass when you make statements above.

Proficiency with a firearm requires constant practice.
Yes, but it doesn't require practice in the same location 100% of the
time. You are predisposed to disagree with me because I have issues with
your retarded president. Try and separate that from other subjects.
I don't have issues with you, I just believe that you are the most self
centered, antagonistic and difficult person I have ever had the
displeasure of interacting with. But, I keep screwing with you because you
get wound so tight and go spinning off in any and every direction.

*I* get wound up? 99% of the time, you are unable to answer questions put
to you, Einstein.

I don't pay much attention to raving lunatics oral noise.

Try looking at the issues from the other guys perspective once in a while.

And what do you imagine to be the "other guy's perspective" in this
particular situation?

Why don't you go first and tell me the USCG's perpsective on this issue.

Stupidity is Contagious
 

"Bert Robbins" wrote in message
. ..
JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
"Bert Robbins" wrote in message
. ..
JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
"Bert Robbins" wrote in message
...
JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
"Bill Kearney" wrote in message
...
If you haven't literally travelled the area, it's impossible for
you to
know
anything about how the plan will impact local residents. You know
that.
Ah, but if the experience gained there helps train the personnel
then it
benefits all of us. We've got several areas around the Chesapeake
and many
other areas have similar situations and gosh, somehow, we've all
managed to
get along with their WELL COORDINATED advance notice.

So please, flail your chicken little hype elsewhere.

Oh please...shooting an AK-47 clone from a boat is no different from
doing it in a cornfield. I've done both. Thanks for playing, though.
You really do come off as a pompous ass when you make statements
above.

Proficiency with a firearm requires constant practice.
Yes, but it doesn't require practice in the same location 100% of the
time. You are predisposed to disagree with me because I have issues
with your retarded president. Try and separate that from other
subjects.
I don't have issues with you, I just believe that you are the most self
centered, antagonistic and difficult person I have ever had the
displeasure of interacting with. But, I keep screwing with you because
you get wound so tight and go spinning off in any and every direction.

*I* get wound up? 99% of the time, you are unable to answer questions
put to you, Einstein.

I don't pay much attention to raving lunatics oral noise.

You most certainly DO. If you think I'm a lunatic, you respond to 99% of my
posts.



Try looking at the issues from the other guys perspective once in a
while.

And what do you imagine to be the "other guy's perspective" in this
particular situation?

Why don't you go first and tell me the USCG's perpsective on this issue.

Excuse me? You seem to have their perspective all figured out. We agree that
you need to practice regularly with firearms. But, you seem to know why
they've chosen a hectic boating area for their practice. Imagine if you
actually had a boat and this happened in YOUR neighborhood. Explain it.

Stupidity is Contagious
 

Yes, but it doesn't require practice in the same location 100% of the
time. You are predisposed to disagree with me because I have issues with
your retarded president. Try and separate that from other subjects.

No, he's right. Both about the practice and about your being a pompous ass.

Stupidity is Contagious
 

"Bill Kearney" wrote in message
...
Yes, but it doesn't require practice in the same location 100% of the
time. You are predisposed to disagree with me because I have issues with
your retarded president. Try and separate that from other subjects.

No, he's right. Both about the practice and about your being a pompous
ass.


I think YOU are predisposed to agree with ideas and organizations which, for
you, function as a psychological equivalent of Viagra. Salute my boots. The
practice zones in Lake Ontario, with which you are 100% unfamiliar, are not
located safely.

Stupidity is Contagious
 

JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
"Bill Kearney" wrote in message
...
Yes, but it doesn't require practice in the same location 100% of the
time. You are predisposed to disagree with me because I have issues with
your retarded president. Try and separate that from other subjects.
No, he's right. Both about the practice and about your being a pompous
ass.


I think YOU are predisposed to agree with ideas and organizations which, for
you, function as a psychological equivalent of Viagra. Salute my boots. The
practice zones in Lake Ontario, with which you are 100% unfamiliar, are not
located safely.

Doug, are you sure that this newsgroup is worthy of you attention? I
believe that your time would be better spent carrying a sign and
screaming in front of the your CG District office questioning the CG,
DHS and Fed Gov for their stupidity.

Please use your vast talents wisely and to their best effect.