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Chuck Gould September 11th 06 05:06 PM

OT Beginner's guide to quitting lying.
 

basskisser wrote:


Jim, do you think that telling lies about other people, saying mean and
nasty things about their families, accusing them of beating their wife
and kids, is in any way stirring the pot, or trying to engage someone
in a fight?


There's a general shortage of saints in the NG.

But if we stay in a cycle where we use another poster's previous bad
behavior to justify our own most recent bad behavior, we will make no
progress of any kind.

Assume that any of those things you imply somebody else has done can be
verified with evidence and demonstrated to be true. How has that
behavior shaped your opinion of the person or persons involved? Why
would you imagine for even a moment that descending to the same level
can be done without taking the same general damage to your own
reputation and public image?
The only person you're impressing by persuing this feud is yourself-

There is no excuse for launching threads into the NG that are designed
solely to attack another poster here. No excuse for *anybody* to do
that. (My comments are directed to you in this case because you
launched this thread. Below, you confirm that your purpose in doing so
was to tweak another poster).

Why do I give a Schlitz? Because when the flames of the crap fire get
fanned enough these grammar school bouts of "nonny, nonny, poo, poo"
begin spilling over into the boating related threads here. You or some
adversary will make a comment in the on-topic threads, the other party
will wade in with a personal remark, and then the entire thread goes
straight to hell as a couple of kids spend an entire workday on the
computer exchanging insults, etc etc etc.

Why do you object to being called "Kevin"? I am frequently called much
worse (and recently as well) and somehow life goes on. Name calling
always reflects worse upon the caller of names than the intended victim
so its no big deal. The day you stop rising to the bait is the day your
antagonists will stop using it as often.


basskisser also wrote:

I bring you "into the mix" for no reason??? Are you denying that you've
done any of the above? If you were a decent human being you wouldn't
have done those things, therefore you wouldn't be "into the mix".
Furthermore, you are doing nothing but trolling yourself everytime you
call me Kevin, and you know it. Do you need me to look up a sight for
your anger management?

Go away. Please.



basskisser September 11th 06 05:45 PM

OT Beginner's guide to quitting lying.
 

Chuck Gould wrote:
basskisser wrote:


Jim, do you think that telling lies about other people, saying mean and
nasty things about their families, accusing them of beating their wife
and kids, is in any way stirring the pot, or trying to engage someone
in a fight?


There's a general shortage of saints in the NG.

But if we stay in a cycle where we use another poster's previous bad
behavior to justify our own most recent bad behavior, we will make no
progress of any kind.

Assume that any of those things you imply somebody else has done can be
verified with evidence and demonstrated to be true. How has that
behavior shaped your opinion of the person or persons involved? Why
would you imagine for even a moment that descending to the same level
can be done without taking the same general damage to your own
reputation and public image?
The only person you're impressing by persuing this feud is yourself-

There is no excuse for launching threads into the NG that are designed
solely to attack another poster here. No excuse for *anybody* to do
that. (My comments are directed to you in this case because you
launched this thread. Below, you confirm that your purpose in doing so
was to tweak another poster).


This thread didn't attack anybody, I simply offered a website that
would help those that need it.

Why do I give a Schlitz? Because when the flames of the crap fire get
fanned enough these grammar school bouts of "nonny, nonny, poo, poo"
begin spilling over into the boating related threads here. You or some
adversary will make a comment in the on-topic threads, the other party
will wade in with a personal remark, and then the entire thread goes
straight to hell as a couple of kids spend an entire workday on the
computer exchanging insults, etc etc etc.


I STILL find it amazing that you and others pig pile on ME, and have
never, ever said a single word about JimH's lies, petty insults, etc.

Why do you object to being called "Kevin"? I am frequently called much
worse (and recently as well) and somehow life goes on. Name calling
always reflects worse upon the caller of names than the intended victim
so its no big deal. The day you stop rising to the bait is the day your
antagonists will stop using it as often.


I don't find it highly offensive, but what you, and I guess most fail
to understand is that JimH uses it as a way to be a little prick
without being obvious. It's part of being bipolar. He can dish it out,
but he sure as hell can't take it.


JimH September 11th 06 05:54 PM

OT Beginner's guide to quitting lying.
 

"basskisser" wrote in message
oups.com...

Chuck Gould wrote:
basskisser wrote:


Jim, do you think that telling lies about other people, saying mean and
nasty things about their families, accusing them of beating their wife
and kids, is in any way stirring the pot, or trying to engage someone
in a fight?


There's a general shortage of saints in the NG.

But if we stay in a cycle where we use another poster's previous bad
behavior to justify our own most recent bad behavior, we will make no
progress of any kind.

Assume that any of those things you imply somebody else has done can be
verified with evidence and demonstrated to be true. How has that
behavior shaped your opinion of the person or persons involved? Why
would you imagine for even a moment that descending to the same level
can be done without taking the same general damage to your own
reputation and public image?
The only person you're impressing by persuing this feud is yourself-

There is no excuse for launching threads into the NG that are designed
solely to attack another poster here. No excuse for *anybody* to do
that. (My comments are directed to you in this case because you
launched this thread. Below, you confirm that your purpose in doing so
was to tweak another poster).


This thread didn't attack anybody, I simply offered a website that
would help those that need it.

Why do I give a Schlitz? Because when the flames of the crap fire get
fanned enough these grammar school bouts of "nonny, nonny, poo, poo"
begin spilling over into the boating related threads here. You or some
adversary will make a comment in the on-topic threads, the other party
will wade in with a personal remark, and then the entire thread goes
straight to hell as a couple of kids spend an entire workday on the
computer exchanging insults, etc etc etc.


I STILL find it amazing that you and others pig pile on ME, and have
never, ever said a single word about JimH's lies, petty insults, etc.

Why do you object to being called "Kevin"? I am frequently called much
worse (and recently as well) and somehow life goes on. Name calling
always reflects worse upon the caller of names than the intended victim
so its no big deal. The day you stop rising to the bait is the day your
antagonists will stop using it as often.


I don't find it highly offensive, but what you, and I guess most fail
to understand is that JimH uses it as a way to be a little prick
without being obvious. It's part of being bipolar. He can dish it out,
but he sure as hell can't take it.



Get help psychiatric Kevin. You need it.



JimH September 11th 06 05:56 PM

OT Beginner's guide to quitting lying.
 

" JimH" not telling you @ pffftt.com wrote in message
. ..

"basskisser" wrote in message
oups.com...

Chuck Gould wrote:
basskisser wrote:


Jim, do you think that telling lies about other people, saying mean
and
nasty things about their families, accusing them of beating their wife
and kids, is in any way stirring the pot, or trying to engage someone
in a fight?

There's a general shortage of saints in the NG.

But if we stay in a cycle where we use another poster's previous bad
behavior to justify our own most recent bad behavior, we will make no
progress of any kind.

Assume that any of those things you imply somebody else has done can be
verified with evidence and demonstrated to be true. How has that
behavior shaped your opinion of the person or persons involved? Why
would you imagine for even a moment that descending to the same level
can be done without taking the same general damage to your own
reputation and public image?
The only person you're impressing by persuing this feud is yourself-

There is no excuse for launching threads into the NG that are designed
solely to attack another poster here. No excuse for *anybody* to do
that. (My comments are directed to you in this case because you
launched this thread. Below, you confirm that your purpose in doing so
was to tweak another poster).


This thread didn't attack anybody, I simply offered a website that
would help those that need it.

Why do I give a Schlitz? Because when the flames of the crap fire get
fanned enough these grammar school bouts of "nonny, nonny, poo, poo"
begin spilling over into the boating related threads here. You or some
adversary will make a comment in the on-topic threads, the other party
will wade in with a personal remark, and then the entire thread goes
straight to hell as a couple of kids spend an entire workday on the
computer exchanging insults, etc etc etc.


I STILL find it amazing that you and others pig pile on ME, and have
never, ever said a single word about JimH's lies, petty insults, etc.

Why do you object to being called "Kevin"? I am frequently called much
worse (and recently as well) and somehow life goes on. Name calling
always reflects worse upon the caller of names than the intended victim
so its no big deal. The day you stop rising to the bait is the day your
antagonists will stop using it as often.


I don't find it highly offensive, but what you, and I guess most fail
to understand is that JimH uses it as a way to be a little prick
without being obvious. It's part of being bipolar. He can dish it out,
but he sure as hell can't take it.



Get psychiatric help Kevin. You need it.

Edit.

Doh, I guess I need grammatical help.



basskisser September 11th 06 06:17 PM

OT Beginner's guide to quitting lying.
 

JimH wrote:
"basskisser" wrote in message
oups.com...

Chuck Gould wrote:
basskisser wrote:


Jim, do you think that telling lies about other people, saying mean and
nasty things about their families, accusing them of beating their wife
and kids, is in any way stirring the pot, or trying to engage someone
in a fight?

There's a general shortage of saints in the NG.

But if we stay in a cycle where we use another poster's previous bad
behavior to justify our own most recent bad behavior, we will make no
progress of any kind.

Assume that any of those things you imply somebody else has done can be
verified with evidence and demonstrated to be true. How has that
behavior shaped your opinion of the person or persons involved? Why
would you imagine for even a moment that descending to the same level
can be done without taking the same general damage to your own
reputation and public image?
The only person you're impressing by persuing this feud is yourself-

There is no excuse for launching threads into the NG that are designed
solely to attack another poster here. No excuse for *anybody* to do
that. (My comments are directed to you in this case because you
launched this thread. Below, you confirm that your purpose in doing so
was to tweak another poster).


This thread didn't attack anybody, I simply offered a website that
would help those that need it.

Why do I give a Schlitz? Because when the flames of the crap fire get
fanned enough these grammar school bouts of "nonny, nonny, poo, poo"
begin spilling over into the boating related threads here. You or some
adversary will make a comment in the on-topic threads, the other party
will wade in with a personal remark, and then the entire thread goes
straight to hell as a couple of kids spend an entire workday on the
computer exchanging insults, etc etc etc.


I STILL find it amazing that you and others pig pile on ME, and have
never, ever said a single word about JimH's lies, petty insults, etc.

Why do you object to being called "Kevin"? I am frequently called much
worse (and recently as well) and somehow life goes on. Name calling
always reflects worse upon the caller of names than the intended victim
so its no big deal. The day you stop rising to the bait is the day your
antagonists will stop using it as often.


I don't find it highly offensive, but what you, and I guess most fail
to understand is that JimH uses it as a way to be a little prick
without being obvious. It's part of being bipolar. He can dish it out,
but he sure as hell can't take it.



Get help psychiatric Kevin. You need it.


I'm not Kevin. But, alas, Jim, I've been asking you to get help for
your bipolar condition for some time now.
Why do *I* need help? Because you've told lies here about me, and about
my family? Because you've wrongly accused me of beating my wife and
kids?
Because you continue to try to start fights and perpetuate ongoing
feuds?


Chuck Gould September 11th 06 07:24 PM

OT Beginner's guide to quitting lying.
 

basskisser wrote:

I'm not Kevin. But, alas, Jim, I've been asking you to get help for
your bipolar condition for some time now.
Why do *I* need help? Because you've told lies here about me, and about
my family? Because you've wrongly accused me of beating my wife and
kids?



Nobody knows who the heck you are.Probably nobody cares. All we know is
who the heck you insist you are not.

How can anybody tell lies about somebody without a name or an identity?
How can anybody tell lies about the *family* of somebody without a name
or an identity? You don't exist except as a figment of your own
imagination because you take great precautions against anybody finding
out who you are. (Lately, I'm beginning to suspect you're a woman- but
don't care enough to really wonder much about it).

Since nobody knows who you are, except you, how can the most vicious
imaginable thing hurt you at all? How can anybody slander a kisser of
bass?


Because you continue to try to start fights and perpetuate ongoing
feuds?



ROTFLAMO

I'm not defending the person or people you claim are persecuting you,
merely condemning your juvenile response as inappropriate for a
newsgroup. Get over it.


basskisser September 11th 06 07:46 PM

OT Beginner's guide to quitting lying.
 

Chuck Gould wrote:
basskisser wrote:

I'm not Kevin. But, alas, Jim, I've been asking you to get help for
your bipolar condition for some time now.
Why do *I* need help? Because you've told lies here about me, and about
my family? Because you've wrongly accused me of beating my wife and
kids?



Nobody knows who the heck you are.Probably nobody cares. All we know is
who the heck you insist you are not.

How can anybody tell lies about somebody without a name or an identity?
How can anybody tell lies about the *family* of somebody without a name
or an identity? You don't exist except as a figment of your own
imagination because you take great precautions against anybody finding
out who you are. (Lately, I'm beginning to suspect you're a woman- but
don't care enough to really wonder much about it).

Since nobody knows who you are, except you, how can the most vicious
imaginable thing hurt you at all? How can anybody slander a kisser of
bass?


Because you continue to try to start fights and perpetuate ongoing
feuds?



ROTFLAMO

I'm not defending the person or people you claim are persecuting you,
merely condemning your juvenile response as inappropriate for a
newsgroup. Get over it.


You don't think that calling someone petty names, childish insults,
saying things about one's family is petty and juvenile? Read back, I'd
really like to know your thoughts on the trash that JimH has sent my
way. After you read all of his attacks on me, then let me know if you
think THOSE responses aren't juvenile and inappropriate. Again, I find
it absolutely amazing that you condemn anything and everything that I
do, but JimH gets free reign to call anybody any names he chooses, post
off topic posts, spread lies about others, and generally act childish.
Why is that?


JimH September 11th 06 07:48 PM

OT Beginner's guide to quitting lying.
 

"basskisser" wrote in message
ups.com...

Chuck Gould wrote:
basskisser wrote:

I'm not Kevin. But, alas, Jim, I've been asking you to get help for
your bipolar condition for some time now.
Why do *I* need help? Because you've told lies here about me, and about
my family? Because you've wrongly accused me of beating my wife and
kids?



Nobody knows who the heck you are.Probably nobody cares. All we know is
who the heck you insist you are not.

How can anybody tell lies about somebody without a name or an identity?
How can anybody tell lies about the *family* of somebody without a name
or an identity? You don't exist except as a figment of your own
imagination because you take great precautions against anybody finding
out who you are. (Lately, I'm beginning to suspect you're a woman- but
don't care enough to really wonder much about it).

Since nobody knows who you are, except you, how can the most vicious
imaginable thing hurt you at all? How can anybody slander a kisser of
bass?


Because you continue to try to start fights and perpetuate ongoing
feuds?



ROTFLAMO

I'm not defending the person or people you claim are persecuting you,
merely condemning your juvenile response as inappropriate for a
newsgroup. Get over it.


You don't think that calling someone petty names, childish insults,
saying things about one's family is petty and juvenile? Read back, I'd
really like to know your thoughts on the trash that JimH has sent my
way. After you read all of his attacks on me, then let me know if you
think THOSE responses aren't juvenile and inappropriate. Again, I find
it absolutely amazing that you condemn anything and everything that I
do, but JimH gets free reign to call anybody any names he chooses, post
off topic posts, spread lies about others, and generally act childish.
Why is that?


How was your pot crop this year Kevin?



basskisser September 11th 06 07:49 PM

OT Beginner's guide to quitting lying.
 

Chuck Gould wrote:

Why, because I've got enough balls to stand up for myself???
Or, are you taking on JimH's persona and starting with the childish
insults?


Chuck Gould September 12th 06 12:14 AM

OT Beginner's guide to quitting lying.
 

basskisser wrote:
Chuck Gould wrote:

Why, because I've got enough balls to stand up for myself???
Or, are you taking on JimH's persona and starting with the childish
insults?


You may have missed some pertinent comments in post 24.

Just in case, here they are again:

"But if we stay in a cycle where we use another poster's previous bad
behavior to justify our own most recent bad behavior, we will make no
progress of any kind.


Assume that any of those things you imply somebody else has done can be

verified with evidence and demonstrated to be true. How has that
behavior shaped your opinion of the person or persons involved? Why
would you imagine for even a moment that descending to the same level
can be done without taking the same general damage to your own
reputation and public image?
The only person you're impressing by persuing this feud is yourself-"



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