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How much do you want to be that alcohol, and lots of it, as was the key
factor in this incident?

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How much do you want to be that alcohol, and lots of it, as was the key
factor in this incident?

"It also details how Mineo managed to put two helicopter turbine
engines into the boat, giving it a top speed of more than 165 mph"

I've been on the Hudson River during the annual "River Poker Run"
where these idiots with Eliminators, Fountains and custom made 30/40
footers and they ain't just putt - putting along. Some of those boats
are doing 120/130 easy.

At that speed, anything can happen - in particular when there are two
boats racing to get somewhere in a hurry.

Yep, and they may not have been riding at dangerous speeds if it were not
for the alcohol. I've seen enough of these aholes in action also.

Fatal oklahoma boat crash....
 

Funny thing is that speed is of no advantage for a "Poker Run." The last
boat to arrive can still win the pot...there's no need for a turbine powered
boat running at 100mph.

--Mike

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How much do you want to be that alcohol, and lots of it, as was the key
factor in this incident?

"It also details how Mineo managed to put two helicopter turbine
engines into the boat, giving it a top speed of more than 165 mph"

I've been on the Hudson River during the annual "River Poker Run"
where these idiots with Eliminators, Fountains and custom made 30/40
footers and they ain't just putt - putting along. Some of those boats
are doing 120/130 easy.

At that speed, anything can happen - in particular when there are two
boats racing to get somewhere in a hurry.

Yep, and they may not have been riding at dangerous speeds if it were not
for the alcohol. I've seen enough of these aholes in action also.

Fatal oklahoma boat crash....
 

On Tue, 05 Sep 2006 02:38:03 GMT, "MGG"
wrote:

Funny thing is that speed is of no advantage for a "Poker Run." The last
boat to arrive can still win the pot...there's no need for a turbine powered
boat running at 100mph.

I'm no expert on poker runs but I've heard that the *real* event is
all about finishing first in a thinly disguised race, and that winning
the "pot" is a public relations after thought.

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How much do you want to be that alcohol, and lots of it, as was the key
factor in this incident?

That and the fact that the boat had JET engine(s) in it,
and it would do 165 Mph!. Good Gawd!, WTD do
you go with a boat that does 165 on the water? Don't
airplanes take off and fly in the air at less speed than that??

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"Wayne.B" wrote in message
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On Tue, 05 Sep 2006 02:38:03 GMT, "MGG"
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Funny thing is that speed is of no advantage for a "Poker Run." The last
boat to arrive can still win the pot...there's no need for a turbine
powered
boat running at 100mph.

I'm no expert on poker runs but I've heard that the *real* event is
all about finishing first in a thinly disguised race, and that winning
the "pot" is a public relations after thought.

Well ****, why tolerate a " thinly disguised race" ??
Why not just *HAVE* a race, a real race, with
official safety stuff, and lanes, and all the fixings ?
This is sad story. Insurance companies and lawers
are gonna have a hay-day with this one I'll bet.
Something tells be these were $20K boats either.
Interesting to note that most of the folks were up
there in age - over 50 etc. (not that there's any
thing wrong with this, but just noteworthy) Sad.

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Had one on our lake this last week too ...

http://www.cowichannewsleader.com/po...r=9&cat=23&id=
718274&more=

Note in story "Overnight Friday one of the outboard motors was stolen."
Looks like I/O to me ....

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Wayne,

You very well could be right. It actually sounds like a fun event. I believe
there is an annual one near me on the SF bay delta. If it *is* a race
though, I'll stay out of it. It's nuts enough in those narrow sloughs when
there *isn't* a race.

--Mike

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On Tue, 05 Sep 2006 02:38:03 GMT, "MGG"
wrote:

Funny thing is that speed is of no advantage for a "Poker Run." The last
boat to arrive can still win the pot...there's no need for a turbine
powered
boat running at 100mph.

I'm no expert on poker runs but I've heard that the *real* event is
all about finishing first in a thinly disguised race, and that winning
the "pot" is a public relations after thought.

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On Mon, 4 Sep 2006 20:59:37 -0700, "Mr Wizzard"
wrote:

Well ****, why tolerate a " thinly disguised race" ??
Why not just *HAVE* a race, a real race, with
official safety stuff, and lanes, and all the fixings ?

A race requires too many permits and approvals. Calling it a "Poker
Run" allows the whole thing to operate under the guise of a charity
event.

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I've ridden with Gordon many times, I don't think it was a drinking
issue. The boats were boat going the same direction when Gordon's boat
made a sudden turn into the other boat. It looks like something broke
in the steering system.




Wayne.B wrote:
On Mon, 4 Sep 2006 20:59:37 -0700, "Mr Wizzard"
wrote:

Well ****, why tolerate a " thinly disguised race" ??
Why not just *HAVE* a race, a real race, with
official safety stuff, and lanes, and all the fixings ?

A race requires too many permits and approvals. Calling it a "Poker
Run" allows the whole thing to operate under the guise of a charity
event.

Fatal oklahoma boat crash....
 

JimH wrote:
How much do you want to be that alcohol, and lots of it, as was the key
factor in this incident?

Well, from the info gathered, alcohol didn't have any part in the
accident, but now that you've mentioned it....



http://www.rrdailyherald.com/article...news/news1.txt

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JimH wrote:
How much do you want to be that alcohol, and lots of it, as was the key
factor in this incident?

Well, from the info gathered, alcohol didn't have any part in the
accident,


The article stated that they were investigating if alcohol was a factor. My
bet is was a major factor causing them to drive their go fast boats
recklessly and resulting in the fatal accident.



but now that you've mentioned it....



http://www.rrdailyherald.com/article...news/news1.txt

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How much do you want to be that alcohol, and lots of it, as was the key
factor in this incident?

Wrong again. See what happens when you, as usual, ASSume?

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DSK wrote:
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I've ridden with Gordon many times, I don't think it was a drinking
issue. The boats were boat going the same direction when Gordon's boat
made a sudden turn into the other boat. It looks like something broke
in the steering system.


The assumption that there was drinking involved is one of
those knee-jerk things.

Guys who drive boats at 70mph feel the need to drink alcohol
while they do so.

Guys who drive 120mph+ feel the need to keep their heads
clear & reflexes sharp. Plus anybody who spends the kind of
time tuning up a boat like that must take it pretty seriously.

DSK

Yep, just another one of JimH's knee-jerk assumptions.

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Interesting to note that most of the folks were up
there in age - over 50 etc.

Live long enough to be able to afford to die EXPENSIVELY, eh?

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Wayne.B wrote:
On Tue, 05 Sep 2006 02:38:03 GMT, "MGG"
wrote:


Funny thing is that speed is of no advantage for a "Poker Run." The last
boat to arrive can still win the pot...there's no need for a turbine powered
boat running at 100mph.


I'm no expert on poker runs but I've heard that the *real* event is
all about finishing first in a thinly disguised race, and that winning
the "pot" is a public relations after thought.



That would not surprise me, Everytime I have seen these guys on the
lakes I have been on they are running pretty fast for conditions. That
is to say they are not the only ones on the lake.

Capt Jack R..

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Thanks for the bimini pics, Jack.....

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How much do you want to be that alcohol, and lots of it, as was the key
factor in this incident?

It sure seems to be the case in this one up he

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Rob