"Chuck Gould" wrote in message
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JimH wrote:
DSK wrote:
I don't do concerts.


JimH wrote:
Neither do I, at least now.

You're both toothless old farts then. How the heck can you
pretend to know anything about music if oyu don't go see it
played?


.... In my earlier years I have seen some
extraordinary talent including Led Zeppelin, Eric Clapton (he walked
off the
stage mid concert because the venue [the Richfield Coliseum] was only
1/2
full),

I do not believe that for a second. That would be very
unlike him.


Don't believe it? I could care less. It happened. And I was there.
Perhaps there is some record on the net of this happening.........and
it did.




Clapton is rather modest and very dedicated to his
profession. He plays guitar (when asked to by the music
director) in church, for gosh sake.


He apparently was not modest and dedicate at this concert. His
feelings were hurt because of the poor turnout and he and his band
walked off mid concert.......****ed.

Richfield Coliseum in Richfield, Ohio. Late 1970's to early 1980's.
;-)


That does it for me. Now I *have* to find the live CD they recorded at
that concert. I don't have anything else in my collection that ends
with the band walking off the stage all p'd off, or features the sound
of one hand clapping in a half empty hall. This will be a real
collector's item someday.

Quote from his discography:

Eric Clapton - Cleveland [2CD] 6/2/79 Richfield Coliseum, Cleveland,
Ohio 2CDR SBD 46,45min This show, recorded at Richfield Coliseum on 2
June 1979, is the only known soundboard recording to surface from this
tour. It has rare tracks like "If I Don't Be There By Morning" and
"Watch Out For Lucy".

End quote.

Somehow they managed to get a full 45-minute set down. (At least, as
there may have been some stuff deleted from the recording). I wonder
how long they would have played if they hadn't walked off in a huff?


Don't know. But they did walk off before a full concert. Check the
attendance at that show Chuck and you will find it was far less than 1/2
capacity (the Coliseum was the Cleveland Cavaliers basketball arena).


Thanks for the tip, JimH. This will be one for the music library. :-)

JimH wrote:


Don't know. But they did walk off before a full concert. Check the
attendance at that show Chuck and you will find it was far less than 1/2
capacity (the Coliseum was the Cleveland Cavaliers basketball arena).


Once my curiosity is aroused, I can be as relentless as a terrier with
a chew toy. Bad personal trait, I know.

Turns out there was more than one recording made that night. The first
CD I already referenced and this one:

http://www.geetarz.org/reviews/clapt...r-required.htm

"No Longer Required" is a double album, but there are only 6-8 songs
per disc.
So, was the show longer than you remember and these numbers included
long solos and a lot of jamming, or did Clapton flee the scene after
just a 12-song set? The reviewer's notes of the concert said that the
most unusual thing to occur was Eric Clapton dedicating a song to
bandmate Albert Lee in honor of Lee's impending marriage, but if they
edited out the part where Clapton said, "To hell with Cleveland! If you
can't completely fill the house like my normally rabid fans everywhere
else we're just outa here......", and if the reviewer was writing from
the recording and not present at the show then the reviewer missed all
the fireworks.

Aha, I just figured out a way to tell whether the Cleveland show was
any briefer than others at the time.... I'll be back. :-)

Chuck Gould wrote:


Aha, I just figured out a way to tell whether the Cleveland show was
any briefer than others at the time.... I'll be back. :-)


Looks like he also played a 12-song set in Saginaw on June 5th.

http://www.geetarz.org/reviews/clapt...05-saginaw.htm

Chuck Gould wrote:
Chuck Gould wrote:

Aha, I just figured out a way to tell whether the Cleveland show was
any briefer than others at the time.... I'll be back. :-)


Looks like he also played a 12-song set in Saginaw on June 5th.

http://www.geetarz.org/reviews/clapt...05-saginaw.htm

Clapton very rarely smiles, so maybe it looked like he was upset.

"Reginald P. Smithers III" wrote in message
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Chuck Gould wrote:
Chuck Gould wrote:

Aha, I just figured out a way to tell whether the Cleveland show was
any briefer than others at the time.... I'll be back. :-)


Looks like he also played a 12-song set in Saginaw on June 5th.

http://www.geetarz.org/reviews/clapt...05-saginaw.htm

Clapton very rarely smiles, so maybe it looked like he was upset.


Naw, it was pretty obvious he was ****ed. We were expecting more than a 45
minute show and when he/his band walked off stage we were floored. My guess
he was upset over the low turnout, but that was 27 years ago and I have a
hard time remembering what happened yesterday. He also did not come out
for any sort of encore. Show over..........go home.

I do remember talking about it on the ride home with my friends and feeling
we were ripped off by the short performance. ;-)

I like Clapton's music and have many of his CD's (latest is Me and Mr.
Johnson). I also like his duets with BB.

JimH wrote:
"Reginald P. Smithers III" wrote in message
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Chuck Gould wrote:
Chuck Gould wrote:

Aha, I just figured out a way to tell whether the Cleveland show was
any briefer than others at the time.... I'll be back. :-)


Looks like he also played a 12-song set in Saginaw on June 5th.

http://www.geetarz.org/reviews/clapt...05-saginaw.htm

Clapton very rarely smiles, so maybe it looked like he was upset.


Naw, it was pretty obvious he was ****ed. We were expecting more than a 45
minute show and when he/his band walked off stage we were floored.

You were busted in a lie, get over it.

My guess
he was upset over the low turnout, but that was 27 years ago and I have a
hard time remembering what happened yesterday.

That's true, you don't remember how you ****ed every person in this
newsgroup off with your monthly period bipolar rants.

He also did not come out
for any sort of encore. Show over..........go home.

That could be for a lot of reasons.

Chuck Gould wrote:
Chuck Gould wrote:


Aha, I just figured out a way to tell whether the Cleveland show was
any briefer than others at the time.... I'll be back. :-)


Looks like he also played a 12-song set in Saginaw on June 5th.

http://www.geetarz.org/reviews/clapt...05-saginaw.htm


But the folks in Augusta, Georgia a week earlier did get a 15-song
performance:

http://www.geetarz.org/reviews/clapt...25-augusta.htm


Ten days to play Augusta, Cleveland, and Saginaw? Those must have been
some lean times indeed for E.C.

"Chuck Gould" wrote in message
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JimH wrote:


Don't know. But they did walk off before a full concert. Check the
attendance at that show Chuck and you will find it was far less than 1/2
capacity (the Coliseum was the Cleveland Cavaliers basketball arena).


Once my curiosity is aroused, I can be as relentless as a terrier with
a chew toy. Bad personal trait, I know.

Turns out there was more than one recording made that night. The first
CD I already referenced and this one:

http://www.geetarz.org/reviews/clapt...r-required.htm

"No Longer Required" is a double album, but there are only 6-8 songs
per disc.
So, was the show longer than you remember and these numbers included
long solos and a lot of jamming, or did Clapton flee the scene after
just a 12-song set? The reviewer's notes of the concert said that the
most unusual thing to occur was Eric Clapton dedicating a song to
bandmate Albert Lee in honor of Lee's impending marriage, but if they
edited out the part where Clapton said, "To hell with Cleveland! If you
can't completely fill the house like my normally rabid fans everywhere
else we're just outa here......", and if the reviewer was writing from
the recording and not present at the show then the reviewer missed all
the fireworks.

Aha, I just figured out a way to tell whether the Cleveland show was
any briefer than others at the time.... I'll be back. :-)


Interesting stuff Chuck....thanks. I was there and remember them leaving
the stage in a huff. I apparently was wrong about half a show, but I guess
we expected more than 45 minutes and certainly an encore performance that
never happened.

But that was 27 years ago. ;-)

JimH wrote:



Interesting stuff Chuck....thanks. I was there and remember them leaving
the stage in a huff. I apparently was wrong about half a show, but I guess
we expected more than 45 minutes and certainly an encore performance that
never happened.

But that was 27 years ago. ;-)

No encore is a more acceptable way to express dissatisfaction with the
acoustics, the crowd, the promoter, your bandmates, lack of proper
refreshment and awestruck female companionship in the dressing area,
etc than walking off in the middle of a performance. Also a lot
smarter- there's a 100% chance that the booking contract defined the
minimum acceptable performance time. No play, no pay. If there was a
problem, it may well have been with the promoter being a bit stingy, or
a weak gate that meant the band would be playing for "just" the minimum
guarantee- and if that were the case the "minimum" performance would be
all you would likely get.

Besides, they proably had to rush off without an encore to make
connections. They only had 3 days to get to Saginaw. :-)

I mean, Cleveland, after all. What did EC expect? Weren't both of his
Ohio fans there?
((just kidding!!))

He couldn't have fouled the nest too badly, as he has appeared at the
same venue several times since.

Do you remember who opened for Eric Clapton on that tour?

"Chuck Gould" wrote in message
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JimH wrote:



Interesting stuff Chuck....thanks. I was there and remember them
leaving
the stage in a huff. I apparently was wrong about half a show, but I
guess
we expected more than 45 minutes and certainly an encore performance that
never happened.

But that was 27 years ago. ;-)

No encore is a more acceptable way to express dissatisfaction with the
acoustics, the crowd, the promoter, your bandmates, lack of proper
refreshment and awestruck female companionship in the dressing area,
etc than walking off in the middle of a performance. Also a lot
smarter- there's a 100% chance that the booking contract defined the
minimum acceptable performance time. No play, no pay. If there was a
problem, it may well have been with the promoter being a bit stingy, or
a weak gate that meant the band would be playing for "just" the minimum
guarantee- and if that were the case the "minimum" performance would be
all you would likely get.

Besides, they proably had to rush off without an encore to make
connections. They only had 3 days to get to Saginaw. :-)

I mean, Cleveland, after all. What did EC expect? Weren't both of his
Ohio fans there?
((just kidding!!))

The home of Rock and Roll!


He couldn't have fouled the nest too badly, as he has appeared at the
same venue several times since.

Do you remember who opened for Eric Clapton on that tour?


No.