OT--Rasmussen: Bush at 43% approval
 

Gallup says 42%

CNN says 42%


Two months 'til the mid-terms. Plenty of time to hit that magical 50%. ;-)

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NOYB wrote:
Gallup says 42%

CNN says 42%


Two months 'til the mid-terms. Plenty of time to hit that magical 50%. ;-)

Couple more foolish wars, he'll be right back down again.

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"Shortwave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 22 Aug 2006 14:34:57 GMT, "NOYB" wrote:

Gallup says 42%

CNN says 42%

Two months 'til the mid-terms. Plenty of time to hit that magical 50%.
;-)

And you know what?

Nobody, and I mean nobody, cares. Everyone is sick and tired of
meaningless polls which prove nothing because the samples are so
skewed as to make them useless.

The average American could care less.

As long as he is near 50%, it makes it easier for Diebold to steal another
election without anybody getting suspicious...or at least that's what the
moonbats over at the liberal blogs think.

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NOYB wrote:
Gallup says 42%

CNN says 42%


Two months 'til the mid-terms. Plenty of time to hit that magical 50%. ;-)

NOYB- why post this here?

Have you noticed that the anti-Bush crap has all but disappeared from
the group?
Do you want to be known as the sole remaining political rabble-rouser
in rec.boats?

Does this poll have something specific to do with recreational boating?

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On Tue, 22 Aug 2006 15:17:37 +0000, NOYB wrote:


As long as he is near 50%, it makes it easier for Diebold to steal another
election without anybody getting suspicious...or at least that's what the
moonbats over at the liberal blogs think.

And if he loses,

http://www.shreveporttimes.com/apps/...608200322/1002

All this time, I thought Republicans believed in states rights.

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"Chuck Gould" wrote in message
ups.com...

NOYB wrote:
Gallup says 42%

CNN says 42%


Two months 'til the mid-terms. Plenty of time to hit that magical 50%.
;-)

NOYB- why post this here?

Ignore the OT posts if you don't like 'em, Chuck.



Have you noticed that the anti-Bush crap has all but disappeared from
the group?

So? It certainly hasn't done a bit a good for maintaining harmony on the
forum.



Do you want to be known as the sole remaining political rabble-rouser
in rec.boats?

Known by whom? You?


Does this poll have something specific to do with recreational boating?


Nope, hence the "OT" in front of my thread title.

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thunder wrote:
On Tue, 22 Aug 2006 15:17:37 +0000, NOYB wrote:


As long as he is near 50%, it makes it easier for Diebold to steal another
election without anybody getting suspicious...or at least that's what the
moonbats over at the liberal blogs think.

And if he loses,

http://www.shreveporttimes.com/apps/...608200322/1002

All this time, I thought Republicans believed in states rights.

Republicans only believe in someone's rights if it suits there M.O.

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"thunder" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 22 Aug 2006 15:17:37 +0000, NOYB wrote:


As long as he is near 50%, it makes it easier for Diebold to steal
another
election without anybody getting suspicious...or at least that's what the
moonbats over at the liberal blogs think.

And if he loses,

http://www.shreveporttimes.com/apps/...608200322/1002

All this time, I thought Republicans believed in states rights.

Damned if you do, and damned if you don't.

Bush got criticized to holy hell for not responding more quickly after
Katrina. And now you're citing an article that states unequivocally that
Gov. Blanco resisted the White House's urging to turn control of the guard
over to Federal authority!?!

I think the President ought to have the authority to take over the National
Guard during "a serious natural or man-made disaster, accident, or
catastrophe that occurs in the United States, its territories and
possessions, or Puerto Rico." Afterall, the Guard is paid for by revenue
from Federal taxes.

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http://www.shreveporttimes.com/apps/...608200322/1002

All this time, I thought Republicans believed in states rights.


NOYB wrote:
Damned if you do, and damned if you don't.

Bush got criticized to holy hell for not responding more quickly after
Katrina. And now you're citing an article that states unequivocally that
Gov. Blanco resisted the White House's urging to turn control of the guard
over to Federal authority!?!


Why was Federal aid to the area struck by Hurricane Katrina
contingent upon turning over authority over the National Guard?

Are you saying you support this fascist power grab by the
Bush Administration, and offer up it's failure as a serious
reason why they should not have bothered sending the various
federal agencies to actually do their job?


I think the President ought to have the authority to take over the National
Guard during "a serious natural or man-made disaster, accident, or
catastrophe that occurs in the United States, its territories and
possessions, or Puerto Rico." Afterall, the Guard is paid for by revenue
from Federal taxes.


Of course. One might surmise from your attitude that you
feel President Bush ought to be declared
Dictator-For-Life... you almost certainly would not support
turning any authority over to a Democrat President.

DSK

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"DSK" wrote in message
...
http://www.shreveporttimes.com/apps/...608200322/1002

All this time, I thought Republicans believed in states rights.


NOYB wrote:
Damned if you do, and damned if you don't.

Bush got criticized to holy hell for not responding more quickly after
Katrina. And now you're citing an article that states unequivocally that
Gov. Blanco resisted the White House's urging to turn control of the
guard over to Federal authority!?!


Why was Federal aid to the area struck by Hurricane Katrina contingent
upon turning over authority over the National Guard?

Are you saying you support this fascist power grab by the Bush
Administration, and offer up it's failure as a serious reason why they
should not have bothered sending the various federal agencies to actually
do their job?

The federal agencies are incapable of handling a crisis of that magnitude
without the help of the military (active duty, reservists, or the guard).
It wouldn't be feasible to keep a federal agency of large enough size at the
ready in case of an emergency like Katrina. That's the purpose of the
Guard.

So there were two problems:

1) the posse comitatus act prevented Bush from sending US troops

2) Gov. Blanco refused to allow Bush to have authority over Guard troops.

So how was Bush supposed to handle the Katrina crisis?

I look forward to how you'd have handled things differently.





I think the President ought to have the authority to take over the
National Guard during "a serious natural or man-made disaster, accident,
or catastrophe that occurs in the United States, its territories and
possessions, or Puerto Rico." Afterall, the Guard is paid for by revenue
from Federal taxes.


Of course. One might surmise from your attitude that you feel President
Bush ought to be declared Dictator-For-Life... you almost certainly would
not support turning any authority over to a Democrat President.

After a crisis like Katrina? Of course I would...especially if the Guard is
in the hands of an inept Governor.

As long as guys like Jeb Bush and Charlie Crist are in charge down here,
there's no need for Federal control of the guard in Florida. Unfortunately
that's not the case in many states.

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"NOYB" wrote in message
.net...
Gallup says 42%

CNN says 42%


Two months 'til the mid-terms. Plenty of time to hit that magical 50%.
;-)

You do realize why these polls are senseless, right?

I'll give you an analogy. Let's say you want to find out about Americans'
thoughts on adults having sex with 10 year old children. You write some
valid survey questions, but the population you select consists of 50%
convicted child molesters. Do you suppose the results might be questionable?

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"JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message
...
"NOYB" wrote in message
.net...


You write some valid survey questions, but the population you select
consists of 50% convicted child molesters.

That would be the Democratic contigent of the sample.

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"NOYB" wrote in message
. net...

"JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message
...
"NOYB" wrote in message
.net...


You write some valid survey questions, but the population you select
consists of 50% convicted child molesters.

That would be the Democratic contigent of the sample.


Oh I see. You were bored today, so you decided to annoy people as a
diversion.

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"JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message
...
"NOYB" wrote in message
. net...

"JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message
...
"NOYB" wrote in message
.net...


You write some valid survey questions, but the population you select
consists of 50% convicted child molesters.

That would be the Democratic contigent of the sample.


Oh I see. You were bored today, so you decided to annoy people as a
diversion.


;-)

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"NOYB" wrote in message
. net...

"JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message
...
"NOYB" wrote in message
. net...

"JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message
...
"NOYB" wrote in message
.net...


You write some valid survey questions, but the population you select
consists of 50% convicted child molesters.

That would be the Democratic contigent of the sample.


Oh I see. You were bored today, so you decided to annoy people as a
diversion.


;-)


Remember always that some of us know the truth.

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Here's the funny thing:
The fact that you're making up excuses just goes to show
that you agree President Bush was absent and/or incompetent
in providing leadership after Hurricane Katrina.

Are you saying you support this fascist power grab by the Bush
Administration, and offer up it's failure as a serious reason why they
should not have bothered sending the various federal agencies to actually
do their job?


NOYB wrote:
The federal agencies are incapable of handling a crisis of that magnitude
without the help of the military (active duty, reservists, or the guard).

Is that an excuse for not bothering to activate gov't
civilian aid agencies, most of which were standing around
for a week before getting their asses in gear?


It wouldn't be feasible to keep a federal agency of large enough size at the
ready in case of an emergency like Katrina.

Is that an excuse for not directing those agencies already
in existence, and already paid for, to get to work soon
after a catastrophe? Or for that matter, two days in advance
when it becomes obvious that a really big catastrophe is
about to happen?





So there were two problems:

1) the posse comitatus act prevented Bush from sending US troops


But it din't prevent him from sending others.
Furthermore, regular U.S. military can be (and have been)
used for disaster relief.


2) Gov. Blanco refused to allow Bush to have authority over Guard troops.

So how was Bush supposed to handle the Katrina crisis?


By sending people other than the National Guard

I look forward to how you'd have handled things differently.


Let's put it this way... the U.S. Coast Guard was *there*
that very afternoon.

Of course, the Coast Guard has leadership. The other Federal
agencies have President Bush.

You figure it out.


As long as guys like Jeb Bush and Charlie Crist are in charge down here,
there's no need for Federal control of the guard in Florida.

That must be why Jeb Bush is against turning over authority
over the Guard to the President.

DSK

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"Shortwave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 22 Aug 2006 12:11:27 -0400, DSK wrote:


Of course. One might surmise from your attitude that you
feel President Bush ought to be declared
Dictator-For-Life..

Sorry - job is already taken.

I just haven't had my staff announce it yet.

By the way, I have a tip for you. Cigars keep mosquitoes away.

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NOYB wrote:
"Chuck Gould" wrote in message
ups.com...

NOYB wrote:
Gallup says 42%

CNN says 42%


Two months 'til the mid-terms. Plenty of time to hit that magical 50%.
;-)

NOYB- why post this here?

Ignore the OT posts if you don't like 'em, Chuck.


Fine, but it's harder to ignore the crowd of jerks, often non-boaters,
who tend to congregate where this type of discussion prevails. Get the
political ball rolling here again and every *on-topic* thread gets
screwed up with spillover insults and name calling from the so-called
"discussions" of politics.







Have you noticed that the anti-Bush crap has all but disappeared from
the group?

So? It certainly hasn't done a bit a good for maintaining harmony on the
forum.


Nonsense. The nitrous is screwing with your memory, Doc.
Look at the acrimonious threads and what do you see? The same 2-3 names
most of the time. Make this the
rec.boats.bush-is-a-*******.no-he-isn't. prowar. antiwar. newsgroup and
you will have 10-15 bad actors in here again.




Do you want to be known as the sole remaining political rabble-rouser
in rec.boats?

Known by whom? You?


Known by your actions, of course.



Does this poll have something specific to do with recreational boating?



Nope, hence the "OT" in front of my thread title.


Bringing us around full circle. Why post it here? Are you the only
person left in the group with a political opinion, or just the only
person who still thinks your political opinion is important enough that
it should be injected into non-political forums?

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"Shortwave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 22 Aug 2006 17:27:00 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

"Shortwave Sportfishing" wrote in message
. ..
On Tue, 22 Aug 2006 12:11:27 -0400, DSK wrote:


Of course. One might surmise from your attitude that you
feel President Bush ought to be declared
Dictator-For-Life..

Sorry - job is already taken.

I just haven't had my staff announce it yet.

By the way, I have a tip for you. Cigars keep mosquitoes away.

I already knew that.

Now sit down and shut up.

The Galactic Universal Overlord (me) has spoken.

Yes, mistress Tom.

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"Shortwave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 22 Aug 2006 14:34:57 GMT, "NOYB" wrote:

Gallup says 42%

CNN says 42%

Two months 'til the mid-terms. Plenty of time to hit that magical 50%.
;-)

And you know what?

Nobody, and I mean nobody, cares. Everyone is sick and tired of
meaningless polls which prove nothing because the samples are so
skewed as to make them useless.

The average American could care less.

I am not sure about that. I am sure they are fed up with the crap that both
major political parties have foisted on the public in the guise of
candidates and the actions of the legislators. Both the Dem's and Repubs,
may both go the way of the Whigs if a 3rd party comes up with good
candidates and platform.

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"Calif Bill" wrote in message
ink.net...

"Shortwave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 22 Aug 2006 14:34:57 GMT, "NOYB" wrote:

Gallup says 42%

CNN says 42%

Two months 'til the mid-terms. Plenty of time to hit that magical 50%.
;-)

And you know what?

Nobody, and I mean nobody, cares. Everyone is sick and tired of
meaningless polls which prove nothing because the samples are so
skewed as to make them useless.

The average American could care less.

I am not sure about that. I am sure they are fed up with the crap that
both major political parties have foisted on the public in the guise of
candidates and the actions of the legislators. Both the Dem's and Repubs,
may both go the way of the Whigs if a 3rd party comes up with good
candidates and platform.


Don't hold your breath. Nothing will change in this country until everything
is done via referendum. Don't hold your breath waiting for that, either.

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On Tue, 22 Aug 2006 17:54:54 +0000, Calif Bill wrote:


I am not sure about that. I am sure they are fed up with the crap that both
major political parties have foisted on the public in the guise of
candidates and the actions of the legislators. Both the Dem's and Repubs,
may both go the way of the Whigs if a 3rd party comes up with good
candidates and platform.

If Perot hadn't been so damn wishy-washy in '92. I agree with what you
say about the Ds and Rs, but they have been in control so long, the cards
are heavily stacked against a third party.

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"Calif Bill" wrote in message
ink.net...

"Shortwave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 22 Aug 2006 14:34:57 GMT, "NOYB" wrote:

Gallup says 42%

CNN says 42%

Two months 'til the mid-terms. Plenty of time to hit that magical 50%.
;-)

And you know what?

Nobody, and I mean nobody, cares. Everyone is sick and tired of
meaningless polls which prove nothing because the samples are so
skewed as to make them useless.

The average American could care less.

I am not sure about that. I am sure they are fed up with the crap that
both major political parties have foisted on the public in the guise of
candidates and the actions of the legislators. Both the Dem's and Repubs,
may both go the way of the Whigs if a 3rd party comes up with good
candidates and platform.

The independent party is about to pick up another Senate seat in
Connecticut.

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"thunder" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 22 Aug 2006 17:54:54 +0000, Calif Bill wrote:


I am not sure about that. I am sure they are fed up with the crap that
both
major political parties have foisted on the public in the guise of
candidates and the actions of the legislators. Both the Dem's and
Repubs,
may both go the way of the Whigs if a 3rd party comes up with good
candidates and platform.

If Perot hadn't been so damn wishy-washy in '92. I agree with what you
say about the Ds and Rs, but they have been in control so long, the cards
are heavily stacked against a third party.

If Perot wasn't around, Bush 41 would have been elected to a second term.

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"thunder" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 22 Aug 2006 17:54:54 +0000, Calif Bill wrote:


I am not sure about that. I am sure they are fed up with the crap that
both
major political parties have foisted on the public in the guise of
candidates and the actions of the legislators. Both the Dem's and
Repubs,
may both go the way of the Whigs if a 3rd party comes up with good
candidates and platform.

If Perot hadn't been so damn wishy-washy in '92. I agree with what you
say about the Ds and Rs, but they have been in control so long, the cards
are heavily stacked against a third party.

Pee-Rot very much showed that there is a possibility of a 3rd party taking
over.

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"Shortwave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 22 Aug 2006 17:41:00 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:


"Shortwave Sportfishing" wrote in message
. ..
On Tue, 22 Aug 2006 17:27:00 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

"Shortwave Sportfishing" wrote in message
m...
On Tue, 22 Aug 2006 12:11:27 -0400, DSK wrote:


Of course. One might surmise from your attitude that you
feel President Bush ought to be declared
Dictator-For-Life..

Sorry - job is already taken.

I just haven't had my staff announce it yet.

By the way, I have a tip for you. Cigars keep mosquitoes away.

I already knew that.

Now sit down and shut up.

The Galactic Universal Overlord (me) has spoken.

Yes, mistress Tom.

Mistress huh?

Beware black UFO's.

Keep wearing the white face paint and torn fishnet stockings. These things
work.

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"Shortwave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 22 Aug 2006 17:25:02 GMT, Alotta Fagina
wrote:

You wrote:

On Tue, 22 Aug 2006 15:59:02 GMT, Alotta Fagina
wrote:

You wrote:

Nobody, and I mean nobody, cares. Everyone is sick and tired of
meaningless polls which prove nothing because the samples are so
skewed as to make them useless.

The average American could care less.

How d'ya know this? You take a poll?

Just look around, examine the data.

Where did your data come from? Polls? Then your data is "meaningless"
too.

No and I'm not going to argue with you about it.

Ms. Vagina (who thinks he's a Mr) has no intuitive sense of this country.

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"Shortwave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...
On Wed, 23 Aug 2006 00:02:02 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

"Shortwave Sportfishing" wrote in message
. ..
On Tue, 22 Aug 2006 17:41:00 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:


"Shortwave Sportfishing" wrote in message
m...
On Tue, 22 Aug 2006 17:27:00 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

"Shortwave Sportfishing" wrote in message
news:n9fme2lr37cjnkrkahe41ns49tgp4i1md0@4ax. com...
On Tue, 22 Aug 2006 12:11:27 -0400, DSK
wrote:


Of course. One might surmise from your attitude that you
feel President Bush ought to be declared
Dictator-For-Life..

Sorry - job is already taken.

I just haven't had my staff announce it yet.

By the way, I have a tip for you. Cigars keep mosquitoes away.

I already knew that.

Now sit down and shut up.

The Galactic Universal Overlord (me) has spoken.

Yes, mistress Tom.

Mistress huh?

Beware black UFO's.

Keep wearing the white face paint and torn fishnet stockings. These things
work.

Hmmmm - kinky.

Believe this or not, and well before we started adopting kids, my wife
and I used to attend midnight showings of Rocky Horror Picture Show -
I went as Riff Raff and she went as Magenta.

Of course, part of the Riff Raff costume was fishnet stockings.

The things you learn on this newsgroup huh? :)

Let's do the time warp again...... :-)

Remind me to tell you sometime about how long it takes for hash brownies to
take effect sometimes, and how easy it is to convince cops in the Hamptons
that THEY are the ones who are stoned.
:-)

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JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
"NOYB" wrote in message
.net...
Gallup says 42%

CNN says 42%


Two months 'til the mid-terms. Plenty of time to hit that magical 50%.
;-)

You do realize why these polls are senseless, right?

I'll give you an analogy. Let's say you want to find out about Americans'
thoughts on adults having sex with 10 year old children. You write some
valid survey questions, but the population you select consists of 50%
convicted child molesters. Do you suppose the results might be questionable?



Polls are quoted by the winners and dismissed by the losers. Somebody
believes in them enough to keep paying for them.

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"Shortwave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...
On Wed, 23 Aug 2006 00:02:02 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

"Shortwave Sportfishing" wrote in message
. ..
On Tue, 22 Aug 2006 17:41:00 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:


"Shortwave Sportfishing" wrote in message
m...
On Tue, 22 Aug 2006 17:27:00 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

"Shortwave Sportfishing" wrote in message
news:n9fme2lr37cjnkrkahe41ns49tgp4i1md0@4ax. com...
On Tue, 22 Aug 2006 12:11:27 -0400, DSK
wrote:


Of course. One might surmise from your attitude that you
feel President Bush ought to be declared
Dictator-For-Life..

Sorry - job is already taken.

I just haven't had my staff announce it yet.

By the way, I have a tip for you. Cigars keep mosquitoes away.

I already knew that.

Now sit down and shut up.

The Galactic Universal Overlord (me) has spoken.

Yes, mistress Tom.

Mistress huh?

Beware black UFO's.

Keep wearing the white face paint and torn fishnet stockings. These things
work.

Hmmmm - kinky.

Believe this or not, and well before we started adopting kids, my wife
and I used to attend midnight showings of Rocky Horror Picture Show -
I went as Riff Raff .........



Great way to save on make-up costs! ;-)

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0639782/


and she went as Magenta.

Sexy!

http://tinyurl.com/luvkd

My wife and the gang we hung out with at the time also used to go to those
shows...........late night Friday or Saturday nights. Never got into
dressing the parts though.

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Shortwave Sportfishing wrote:
On Wed, 23 Aug 2006 00:02:02 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:


"Shortwave Sportfishing" wrote in message
. ..

On Tue, 22 Aug 2006 17:41:00 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:


"Shortwave Sportfishing" wrote in message
m...

On Tue, 22 Aug 2006 17:27:00 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:


"Shortwave Sportfishing" wrote in message
news:n9fme2lr37cjnkrkahe41ns49tgp4i1md0@4ax. com...

On Tue, 22 Aug 2006 12:11:27 -0400, DSK wrote:


Of course. One might surmise from your attitude that you
feel President Bush ought to be declared
Dictator-For-Life..

Sorry - job is already taken.

I just haven't had my staff announce it yet.

By the way, I have a tip for you. Cigars keep mosquitoes away.

I already knew that.

Now sit down and shut up.

The Galactic Universal Overlord (me) has spoken.

Yes, mistress Tom.

Mistress huh?

Beware black UFO's.

Keep wearing the white face paint and torn fishnet stockings. These things
work.


Hmmmm - kinky.

Believe this or not, and well before we started adopting kids, my wife
and I used to attend midnight showings of Rocky Horror Picture Show -
I went as Riff Raff and she went as Magenta.

Of course, part of the Riff Raff costume was fishnet stockings.

The things you learn on this newsgroup huh? :)


I'm guessing 'Family Services' didn't know about your fetish.

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"Bert Robbins" wrote in message
. ..
JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
"NOYB" wrote in message
.net...
Gallup says 42%

CNN says 42%


Two months 'til the mid-terms. Plenty of time to hit that magical 50%.
;-)

You do realize why these polls are senseless, right?

I'll give you an analogy. Let's say you want to find out about Americans'
thoughts on adults having sex with 10 year old children. You write some
valid survey questions, but the population you select consists of 50%
convicted child molesters. Do you suppose the results might be
questionable?

Polls are quoted by the winners and dismissed by the losers. Somebody
believes in them enough to keep paying for them.

True, but completely irrelevant. Thanks for playing, though. The monkey at
the door has a case of Mrs Paul's fish sticks for you.

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"DSK" wrote in message
...
..

So how was Bush supposed to handle the Katrina crisis?


By sending people other than the National Guard

LOL. So who are these imaginary people that you would send? The military is
off-limits thanks to Posse Comitatus, and the National Guard is off-limits
thanks to Gov. Blanco's refusal to hand them over to the President.

Where would you find the people you speak of?





I look forward to how you'd have handled things differently.


Let's put it this way... the U.S. Coast Guard was *there* that very
afternoon.


The Commandant of the Coast Guard reports directly to Homeland Security.
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi..._Org_Chart.jpg

The Coast Guard was transferred from the Dept. of Transportation to the DHS
on March 1st, 2003:
http://www.uscg.mil/hq/g-cp/comrel/factfile/index.htm

Katrina hit 2 years later.

Good try though!

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"Shortwave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...



Remember, out of almost 300,000 votes cast (by Connecticut's most
left-wing constituents) in the primary, Lamont won
by barely 10,000.

Corrected for accuracy. ;-)

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So how was Bush supposed to handle the Katrina crisis?


By sending people other than the National Guard


NOYB wrote:
LOL. So who are these imaginary people that you would send?

Are you seriously suggesting that the National Guard is the
only resource for disaster relief? What about FEMA?



.... The military is
off-limits thanks to Posse Comitatus

For use as police forces, yes. For disaster relief, no.
Let me remind you that the U.S. Navy was quite prominent in
sending ships, including a hospital ship, to the relief of
disaster victims. But they didn't get orders until the
Friday after Katrina had hit... a full working week.


and the National Guard is off-limits
thanks to Gov. Blanco's refusal to hand them over to the President.


Which was totally legal & proper, according to Governor Jeb
Bush.

Where would you find the people you speak of?


Start at the FEMA office and work my way down the hall.

Here's a nice list to chose from.

http://12.46.245.173/cfda/prog_index.html


Let's put it this way... the U.S. Coast Guard was *there* that very
afternoon.



The Commandant of the Coast Guard reports directly to Homeland Security.
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi..._Org_Chart.jpg


Did they get orders via Homeland Security?

If so, why weren't some of the other branches of Homeland
Security on the spot?

DSK

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"DSK" wrote in message
...

The Commandant of the Coast Guard reports directly to Homeland Security.
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi..._Org_Chart.jpg


Did they get orders via Homeland Security?

If so, why weren't some of the other branches of Homeland Security on the
spot?

DSK


What other branches? As far as I can tell, "Homeland Security" is nothing
but a bunch of suits. Do they own a few thousand personnel whose job it is
to get wet & dirty?

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NOYB wrote:
"thunder" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 22 Aug 2006 17:54:54 +0000, Calif Bill wrote:


I am not sure about that. I am sure they are fed up with the crap that
both
major political parties have foisted on the public in the guise of
candidates and the actions of the legislators. Both the Dem's and
Repubs,
may both go the way of the Whigs if a 3rd party comes up with good
candidates and platform.

If Perot hadn't been so damn wishy-washy in '92. I agree with what you
say about the Ds and Rs, but they have been in control so long, the cards
are heavily stacked against a third party.

If Perot wasn't around, Bush 41 would have been elected to a second term.

Thank the stars that idiot (dumber than his son, even) wasn't elected
to another term. He did nothing for this country.

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DSK wrote:
Here's the funny thing:
The fact that you're making up excuses just goes to show
that you agree President Bush was absent and/or incompetent
in providing leadership after Hurricane Katrina.

Why let NOYB suck you down with his political nonsense?

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Chuck Gould wrote:
Why let NOYB suck you down with his political nonsense?


Because after his hypocrisy & illogic is blatantly exposed,
he'll wait longer before he does it again.

A desire for the common good will keep most men honest, but
the ones that won't need to have their butts kicked once in
a while.

DSK

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"DSK" wrote in message
...
So how was Bush supposed to handle the Katrina crisis?


By sending people other than the National Guard


NOYB wrote:
LOL. So who are these imaginary people that you would send?

Are you seriously suggesting that the National Guard is the only resource
for disaster relief? What about FEMA?

FEMA doesn't have near enough people to handle a crisis that reaches the
magnitude of katrina...and certainly not the number of people or resources
necessary to handle law enforcement.

So now answer the question:
Who are these imaginary people you would send?





.... The military is off-limits thanks to Posse Comitatus

For use as police forces, yes. For disaster relief, no.
Let me remind you that the U.S. Navy was quite prominent in sending ships,
including a hospital ship, to the relief of disaster victims. But they
didn't get orders until the Friday after Katrina had hit... a full working
week.

The U.S. Navy wasn't providing law enforcement, which is prohibited under
Posse Comitatus. If you remember, there were two issue preventing assistance
from reaching the area:

1) a destroyed infrastructure (flooded roads, unsafe bridges, etc)

2) hoodlums rioting and firing at rescue workers






and the National Guard is off-limits thanks to Gov. Blanco's refusal to
hand them over to the President.


Which was totally legal & proper, according to Governor Jeb Bush.


Fine. But Blanco was incompetent. It took Bush's urging before she ever
called them up to assist.



Where would you find the people you speak of?


Start at the FEMA office and work my way down the hall.

Here's a nice list to chose from.

http://12.46.245.173/cfda/prog_index.html


Let's put it this way... the U.S. Coast Guard was *there* that very
afternoon.



The Commandant of the Coast Guard reports directly to Homeland Security.
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi..._Org_Chart.jpg


Did they get orders via Homeland Security?

Of course!


If so, why weren't some of the other branches of Homeland Security on the
spot?


Which branches are you speaking of? Homeland Security doesn't have it's own
branch to handle law enforcement issues in times of crisis. Perhaps the
answer is to assign to DHS the authority over a portion of each state's
National Guard or Reserve troops to handle law enforcement issues in times
of crisis.