OT--Rasmussen: Bush at 43% approval
 

Shortwave Sportfishing wrote:
On Wed, 23 Aug 2006 00:02:02 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
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"Shortwave Sportfishing" wrote in message
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On Tue, 22 Aug 2006 17:41:00 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:


"Shortwave Sportfishing" wrote in message
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On Tue, 22 Aug 2006 17:27:00 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
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"Shortwave Sportfishing" wrote in message
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On Tue, 22 Aug 2006 12:11:27 -0400, DSK wrote:


Of course. One might surmise from your attitude that you
feel President Bush ought to be declared
Dictator-For-Life..

Sorry - job is already taken.

I just haven't had my staff announce it yet.

By the way, I have a tip for you. Cigars keep mosquitoes away.

I already knew that.

Now sit down and shut up.

The Galactic Universal Overlord (me) has spoken.

Yes, mistress Tom.

Mistress huh?

Beware black UFO's.

Keep wearing the white face paint and torn fishnet stockings. These things
work.


Hmmmm - kinky.

Believe this or not, and well before we started adopting kids, my wife
and I used to attend midnight showings of Rocky Horror Picture Show -
I went as Riff Raff and she went as Magenta.

Of course, part of the Riff Raff costume was fishnet stockings.

The things you learn on this newsgroup huh? :)


I'm guessing 'Family Services' didn't know about your fetish.

OT--Rasmussen: Bush at 43% approval
 

"Bert Robbins" wrote in message
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JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
"NOYB" wrote in message
.net...
Gallup says 42%

CNN says 42%


Two months 'til the mid-terms. Plenty of time to hit that magical 50%.
;-)

You do realize why these polls are senseless, right?

I'll give you an analogy. Let's say you want to find out about Americans'
thoughts on adults having sex with 10 year old children. You write some
valid survey questions, but the population you select consists of 50%
convicted child molesters. Do you suppose the results might be
questionable?

Polls are quoted by the winners and dismissed by the losers. Somebody
believes in them enough to keep paying for them.

True, but completely irrelevant. Thanks for playing, though. The monkey at
the door has a case of Mrs Paul's fish sticks for you.

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"DSK" wrote in message
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So how was Bush supposed to handle the Katrina crisis?


By sending people other than the National Guard

LOL. So who are these imaginary people that you would send? The military is
off-limits thanks to Posse Comitatus, and the National Guard is off-limits
thanks to Gov. Blanco's refusal to hand them over to the President.

Where would you find the people you speak of?





I look forward to how you'd have handled things differently.


Let's put it this way... the U.S. Coast Guard was *there* that very
afternoon.


The Commandant of the Coast Guard reports directly to Homeland Security.
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi..._Org_Chart.jpg

The Coast Guard was transferred from the Dept. of Transportation to the DHS
on March 1st, 2003:
http://www.uscg.mil/hq/g-cp/comrel/factfile/index.htm

Katrina hit 2 years later.

Good try though!

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"Shortwave Sportfishing" wrote in message
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Remember, out of almost 300,000 votes cast (by Connecticut's most
left-wing constituents) in the primary, Lamont won
by barely 10,000.

Corrected for accuracy. ;-)

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So how was Bush supposed to handle the Katrina crisis?


By sending people other than the National Guard


NOYB wrote:
LOL. So who are these imaginary people that you would send?

Are you seriously suggesting that the National Guard is the
only resource for disaster relief? What about FEMA?



.... The military is
off-limits thanks to Posse Comitatus

For use as police forces, yes. For disaster relief, no.
Let me remind you that the U.S. Navy was quite prominent in
sending ships, including a hospital ship, to the relief of
disaster victims. But they didn't get orders until the
Friday after Katrina had hit... a full working week.


and the National Guard is off-limits
thanks to Gov. Blanco's refusal to hand them over to the President.


Which was totally legal & proper, according to Governor Jeb
Bush.

Where would you find the people you speak of?


Start at the FEMA office and work my way down the hall.

Here's a nice list to chose from.

http://12.46.245.173/cfda/prog_index.html


Let's put it this way... the U.S. Coast Guard was *there* that very
afternoon.



The Commandant of the Coast Guard reports directly to Homeland Security.
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi..._Org_Chart.jpg


Did they get orders via Homeland Security?

If so, why weren't some of the other branches of Homeland
Security on the spot?

DSK

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"DSK" wrote in message
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The Commandant of the Coast Guard reports directly to Homeland Security.
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi..._Org_Chart.jpg


Did they get orders via Homeland Security?

If so, why weren't some of the other branches of Homeland Security on the
spot?

DSK


What other branches? As far as I can tell, "Homeland Security" is nothing
but a bunch of suits. Do they own a few thousand personnel whose job it is
to get wet & dirty?

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NOYB wrote:
"thunder" wrote in message
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On Tue, 22 Aug 2006 17:54:54 +0000, Calif Bill wrote:


I am not sure about that. I am sure they are fed up with the crap that
both
major political parties have foisted on the public in the guise of
candidates and the actions of the legislators. Both the Dem's and
Repubs,
may both go the way of the Whigs if a 3rd party comes up with good
candidates and platform.

If Perot hadn't been so damn wishy-washy in '92. I agree with what you
say about the Ds and Rs, but they have been in control so long, the cards
are heavily stacked against a third party.

If Perot wasn't around, Bush 41 would have been elected to a second term.

Thank the stars that idiot (dumber than his son, even) wasn't elected
to another term. He did nothing for this country.

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DSK wrote:
Here's the funny thing:
The fact that you're making up excuses just goes to show
that you agree President Bush was absent and/or incompetent
in providing leadership after Hurricane Katrina.

Why let NOYB suck you down with his political nonsense?

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Chuck Gould wrote:
Why let NOYB suck you down with his political nonsense?


Because after his hypocrisy & illogic is blatantly exposed,
he'll wait longer before he does it again.

A desire for the common good will keep most men honest, but
the ones that won't need to have their butts kicked once in
a while.

DSK

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"DSK" wrote in message
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So how was Bush supposed to handle the Katrina crisis?


By sending people other than the National Guard


NOYB wrote:
LOL. So who are these imaginary people that you would send?

Are you seriously suggesting that the National Guard is the only resource
for disaster relief? What about FEMA?

FEMA doesn't have near enough people to handle a crisis that reaches the
magnitude of katrina...and certainly not the number of people or resources
necessary to handle law enforcement.

So now answer the question:
Who are these imaginary people you would send?





.... The military is off-limits thanks to Posse Comitatus

For use as police forces, yes. For disaster relief, no.
Let me remind you that the U.S. Navy was quite prominent in sending ships,
including a hospital ship, to the relief of disaster victims. But they
didn't get orders until the Friday after Katrina had hit... a full working
week.

The U.S. Navy wasn't providing law enforcement, which is prohibited under
Posse Comitatus. If you remember, there were two issue preventing assistance
from reaching the area:

1) a destroyed infrastructure (flooded roads, unsafe bridges, etc)

2) hoodlums rioting and firing at rescue workers






and the National Guard is off-limits thanks to Gov. Blanco's refusal to
hand them over to the President.


Which was totally legal & proper, according to Governor Jeb Bush.


Fine. But Blanco was incompetent. It took Bush's urging before she ever
called them up to assist.



Where would you find the people you speak of?


Start at the FEMA office and work my way down the hall.

Here's a nice list to chose from.

http://12.46.245.173/cfda/prog_index.html


Let's put it this way... the U.S. Coast Guard was *there* that very
afternoon.



The Commandant of the Coast Guard reports directly to Homeland Security.
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi..._Org_Chart.jpg


Did they get orders via Homeland Security?

Of course!


If so, why weren't some of the other branches of Homeland Security on the
spot?


Which branches are you speaking of? Homeland Security doesn't have it's own
branch to handle law enforcement issues in times of crisis. Perhaps the
answer is to assign to DHS the authority over a portion of each state's
National Guard or Reserve troops to handle law enforcement issues in times
of crisis.