Rusty lures
 

I had not been fishing since Spring and my tackle box sat inside the dock
box. If you recall we had flooding on the river earlier this summer and
part of my dock box was underwater for a while.

I pulled the tackle box out the other day and saw that the bottom tray
(containing all my lures) was full of rusty water and the treble hooks on
the lures were all rusted.

I just got done cleaning the lures (running them in fresh water) to remove
the rusty goop on them. I plan to replace the rusty treble hooks on them.

My question is..........do you think an odor of rust on the lure body will
keep fish from hitting these lures? If I soak them in the sink with
dishwashing soap will that leave a worse odor on the lures that the fish
will stay away from?

TIA!

Rusty lures
 

My question is..........do you think an odor of rust on the lure body will
keep fish from hitting these lures? If I soak them in the sink with
dishwashing soap will that leave a worse odor on the lures that the fish
will stay away from?

Jim:

Rusty hooks, sharpened with a hook whet rock, have never seemed to produce
any less for me than new ones in the Gulf trolling for Spanish and King
Mackerel..

TIA!

Rusty lures
 

JimH wrote:
I had not been fishing since Spring and my tackle box sat inside the dock
box. If you recall we had flooding on the river earlier this summer and
part of my dock box was underwater for a while.

I pulled the tackle box out the other day and saw that the bottom tray
(containing all my lures) was full of rusty water and the treble hooks on
the lures were all rusted.

I just got done cleaning the lures (running them in fresh water) to remove
the rusty goop on them. I plan to replace the rusty treble hooks on them.

My question is..........do you think an odor of rust on the lure body will
keep fish from hitting these lures? If I soak them in the sink with
dishwashing soap will that leave a worse odor on the lures that the fish
will stay away from?

TIA!

Doesn't the art or science of fishing with lures depend primarily on
****ing the fish off so badly that they will strike out at the
obnoxious noise, color, smell, vibration, etc of any lures cast or
trolled in the vicinity? Maybe the more you irritate the fish, the
harder they strike?

Are there studies that indicate the fish are actually fooled into
thinking the lures have some food value?

Unless the fish are striking a red, white, and silver spoon or a copper
spinner strung with red, blue, white and yellow beads because they
think such devices are legitimate bait fish, it probably wouldn't make
a lot of difference whether the lures actually smelled like a fish or
not.

Rusty lures
 

"William Bruce" wrote in message
. ..

My question is..........do you think an odor of rust on the lure body
will
keep fish from hitting these lures? If I soak them in the sink with
dishwashing soap will that leave a worse odor on the lures that the fish
will stay away from?

Jim:

Rusty hooks, sharpened with a hook whet rock, have never seemed to produce
any less for me than new ones in the Gulf trolling for Spanish and King
Mackerel..

TIA!




So I guess I am worried about nothing. Thanks.

BTW: I did read a suggestion from a site on the net that said soaking them
in a vinegar and water solution for several hours removes the rust and that
the odor from the vinegar is not a concern. I tried it and it works great.
I am also going to give the lures a spray of WD40. I have heard that stuff
is a great fish attractant and it also protects the lures and hooks from
rusting. ;-)

Rusty lures
 

Marine critters are very sensitive to smell and it is thought the WD40
washes off the human oils that smell bad to fish.
Other oils can also attract fish. One experiment was tried by dipping
herring in a dirty bilge, They caught more fish. Novice women fisherpersons
often do better than their male counterparts. Perfumed hand lotion?
Dungeness crabs are particular about their food. Red meat is out! Chicken
and other birds (gulls?) are in as are other crabs (smooshed) and clams.
Fish (and crabs) are also very sensitive to electricity. A downrigger wire
improperly setup can drive salmon away. It has to be slightly positive to
the boat ground. Crabs will not enter a pot that has bare base metal giving
off electrons (hot pot)
G

" JimH" not telling you @ pffftt.com wrote in message
. ..

"William Bruce" wrote in message
. ..

My question is..........do you think an odor of rust on the lure body
will
keep fish from hitting these lures? If I soak them in the sink with
dishwashing soap will that leave a worse odor on the lures that the
fish
will stay away from?

Jim:

Rusty hooks, sharpened with a hook whet rock, have never seemed to
produce
any less for me than new ones in the Gulf trolling for Spanish and King
Mackerel..

TIA!




So I guess I am worried about nothing. Thanks.

BTW: I did read a suggestion from a site on the net that said soaking
them
in a vinegar and water solution for several hours removes the rust and
that
the odor from the vinegar is not a concern. I tried it and it works
great.
I am also going to give the lures a spray of WD40. I have heard that
stuff
is a great fish attractant and it also protects the lures and hooks from
rusting. ;-)

Rusty lures
 

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
. ..
JimH wrote:
"William Bruce" wrote in message
. ..
My question is..........do you think an odor of rust on the lure body
will
keep fish from hitting these lures? If I soak them in the sink with
dishwashing soap will that leave a worse odor on the lures that the
fish will stay away from?
Jim:

Rusty hooks, sharpened with a hook whet rock, have never seemed to
produce any less for me than new ones in the Gulf trolling for Spanish
and King Mackerel..

TIA!



So I guess I am worried about nothing. Thanks.

BTW: I did read a suggestion from a site on the net that said soaking
them in a vinegar and water solution for several hours removes the rust
and that the odor from the vinegar is not a concern. I tried it and it
works great. I am also going to give the lures a spray of WD40. I have
heard that stuff is a great fish attractant and it also protects the
lures and hooks from rusting. ;-)


You know what they say...a vinegar soaking gets rid of that fishy smell.


As compared to that great rusty metal smell........;-)

And it actually worked. I lost a couple of lures and spinners where the
rust was so bad the eye hooks rusted away and the body was badly discolored.

Where have you been? You have a lot of catching up to do.

Rusty lures
 

"Shortwave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 20 Aug 2006 15:09:26 -0400, " JimH" not telling you @
pffftt.com wrote:


"William Bruce" wrote in message
t...

My question is..........do you think an odor of rust on the lure body
will
keep fish from hitting these lures? If I soak them in the sink with
dishwashing soap will that leave a worse odor on the lures that the
fish
will stay away from?

Jim:

Rusty hooks, sharpened with a hook whet rock, have never seemed to
produce
any less for me than new ones in the Gulf trolling for Spanish and King
Mackerel..

TIA!

So I guess I am worried about nothing. Thanks.

BTW: I did read a suggestion from a site on the net that said soaking
them
in a vinegar and water solution for several hours removes the rust and
that
the odor from the vinegar is not a concern. I tried it and it works
great.
I am also going to give the lures a spray of WD40. I have heard that
stuff
is a great fish attractant and it also protects the lures and hooks from
rusting. ;-)

I was going to suggest the vinegar solution or CLR which seems to work
pretty good too.

As to attractants, it's a long established tale that WD40, much like
Marvel Mystery Oil, will act as a fish attractant, cure cancer, the
common cold and rheumatism, but it's not true.

It doesn't act as a repellant either which is the basis of the myth.



What has led you to the conclusion that it is not an attractant? I know you
do a lot of fishing. Have you tried it?

And even if it is neither an attractant nor a repellant yet protects the
lures from rust it seems like a good thing. Would you agree?

Rusty lures
 

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
JimH wrote:
"Harry Krause" wrote in message
. ..
JimH wrote:
"William Bruce" wrote in message
. ..
My question is..........do you think an odor of rust on the lure body
will
keep fish from hitting these lures? If I soak them in the sink with
dishwashing soap will that leave a worse odor on the lures that the
fish will stay away from?
Jim:

Rusty hooks, sharpened with a hook whet rock, have never seemed to
produce any less for me than new ones in the Gulf trolling for Spanish
and King Mackerel..

TIA!

So I guess I am worried about nothing. Thanks.

BTW: I did read a suggestion from a site on the net that said soaking
them in a vinegar and water solution for several hours removes the rust
and that the odor from the vinegar is not a concern. I tried it and it
works great. I am also going to give the lures a spray of WD40. I have
heard that stuff is a great fish attractant and it also protects the
lures and hooks from rusting. ;-)

You know what they say...a vinegar soaking gets rid of that fishy smell.


As compared to that great rusty metal smell........;-)

And it actually worked. I lost a couple of lures and spinners where the
rust was so bad the eye hooks rusted away and the body was badly
discolored.

Where have you been? You have a lot of catching up to do.




Boating and fishing. I know, a rare activity in *this* group, but I do
engage in it.


We would have also............but small craft warnings and/or rain all
weekend. ;-)



My three survivors from yesterday were so glad to get back to shore after
a bout with some substantial rollers and whitecaps in the late afternoon
that two of them kissed the dock, pope-like.

I am now in the running for Toadfish Catching King. My guests caught
croakers, flounder, bluefish. No matter where we were, I
caught...toadfish.


Man, that is one nasty looking fish.
http://www.chesapeakebay.net/Info/toadfish.cfm

Rusty lures
 

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
JimH wrote:
"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
JimH wrote:
"Harry Krause" wrote in message
. ..
JimH wrote:
"William Bruce" wrote in message
. ..
My question is..........do you think an odor of rust on the lure
body will
keep fish from hitting these lures? If I soak them in the sink
with dishwashing soap will that leave a worse odor on the lures
that the fish will stay away from?
Jim:

Rusty hooks, sharpened with a hook whet rock, have never seemed to
produce any less for me than new ones in the Gulf trolling for
Spanish and King Mackerel..

TIA!

So I guess I am worried about nothing. Thanks.

BTW: I did read a suggestion from a site on the net that said
soaking them in a vinegar and water solution for several hours
removes the rust and that the odor from the vinegar is not a concern.
I tried it and it works great. I am also going to give the lures a
spray of WD40. I have heard that stuff is a great fish attractant
and it also protects the lures and hooks from rusting. ;-)
You know what they say...a vinegar soaking gets rid of that fishy
smell.

As compared to that great rusty metal smell........;-)

And it actually worked. I lost a couple of lures and spinners where
the rust was so bad the eye hooks rusted away and the body was badly
discolored.

Where have you been? You have a lot of catching up to do.



Boating and fishing. I know, a rare activity in *this* group, but I do
engage in it.


We would have also............but small craft warnings and/or rain all
weekend. ;-)


My three survivors from yesterday were so glad to get back to shore
after a bout with some substantial rollers and whitecaps in the late
afternoon that two of them kissed the dock, pope-like.

I am now in the running for Toadfish Catching King. My guests caught
croakers, flounder, bluefish. No matter where we were, I
caught...toadfish.


Man, that is one nasty looking fish.
http://www.chesapeakebay.net/Info/toadfish.cfm


Yes, indeed. I was good at catching them in Florida, too.


Our garbage fish is the freshwater drum (sheephead).

http://ohiodnr.com/wildlife/fishing/...hid/fwdrum.htm

I also toss carp.

Rusty lures
 

On Sun, 20 Aug 2006 17:25:49 -0400, Harry Krause
wrote:

JimH wrote:
"Harry Krause" wrote in message
. ..
JimH wrote:
"William Bruce" wrote in message
. ..
My question is..........do you think an odor of rust on the lure body
will
keep fish from hitting these lures? If I soak them in the sink with
dishwashing soap will that leave a worse odor on the lures that the
fish will stay away from?
Jim:

Rusty hooks, sharpened with a hook whet rock, have never seemed to
produce any less for me than new ones in the Gulf trolling for Spanish
and King Mackerel..

TIA!

So I guess I am worried about nothing. Thanks.

BTW: I did read a suggestion from a site on the net that said soaking
them in a vinegar and water solution for several hours removes the rust
and that the odor from the vinegar is not a concern. I tried it and it
works great. I am also going to give the lures a spray of WD40. I have
heard that stuff is a great fish attractant and it also protects the
lures and hooks from rusting. ;-)

You know what they say...a vinegar soaking gets rid of that fishy smell.


As compared to that great rusty metal smell........;-)

And it actually worked. I lost a couple of lures and spinners where the
rust was so bad the eye hooks rusted away and the body was badly discolored.

Where have you been? You have a lot of catching up to do.




Boating and fishing. I know, a rare activity in *this* group, but I do
engage in it.

My three survivors from yesterday were so glad to get back to shore
after a bout with some substantial rollers and whitecaps in the late
afternoon that two of them kissed the dock, pope-like.

I am now in the running for Toadfish Catching King. My guests caught
croakers, flounder, bluefish. No matter where we were, I caught...toadfish.

The Bay was beautiful today. I heard about yesterday from some other folks
that were out. I guess it got pretty rough.

Today I took daughter and son-in-law out to learn something about boating.
Had a great time.
--
******************************************
***** Have a Spectacular Day! *****
******************************************

John

Rusty lures
 

On Sun, 20 Aug 2006 10:45:23 -0400, " JimH" not telling you @ pffftt.com
wrote:

I had not been fishing since Spring and my tackle box sat inside the dock
box. If you recall we had flooding on the river earlier this summer and
part of my dock box was underwater for a while.

I pulled the tackle box out the other day and saw that the bottom tray
(containing all my lures) was full of rusty water and the treble hooks on
the lures were all rusted.

I just got done cleaning the lures (running them in fresh water) to remove
the rusty goop on them. I plan to replace the rusty treble hooks on them.

My question is..........do you think an odor of rust on the lure body will
keep fish from hitting these lures? If I soak them in the sink with
dishwashing soap will that leave a worse odor on the lures that the fish
will stay away from?

TIA!


Lot's of commercial folks wash their lures in dish soap and sea water while
coming in from a trip. They catch fish, so I'm assuming it doesn't hurt the
lures much.

Now...

--
******************************************
***** Have a Gay Day, Jim! *****
******************************************

John

Rusty lures
 

"JohnH" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 20 Aug 2006 10:45:23 -0400, " JimH" not telling you @ pffftt.com
wrote:

I had not been fishing since Spring and my tackle box sat inside the dock
box. If you recall we had flooding on the river earlier this summer and
part of my dock box was underwater for a while.

I pulled the tackle box out the other day and saw that the bottom tray
(containing all my lures) was full of rusty water and the treble hooks on
the lures were all rusted.

I just got done cleaning the lures (running them in fresh water) to remove
the rusty goop on them. I plan to replace the rusty treble hooks on them.

My question is..........do you think an odor of rust on the lure body will
keep fish from hitting these lures? If I soak them in the sink with
dishwashing soap will that leave a worse odor on the lures that the fish
will stay away from?

TIA!


Lot's of commercial folks wash their lures in dish soap and sea water
while
coming in from a trip. They catch fish, so I'm assuming it doesn't hurt
the
lures much.

Thanks John.


Now...

--
******************************************
***** Have a Gay Day, Jim! *****
******************************************

John

As there was nothing in my post(s) to indicate otherwise I will ignore your
attempt to continue with this 'gay thing' and accept it as your allegiance
to that cause. When are you finally coming out of the closet John? ;-)

Rusty lures
 

I am now in the running for Toadfish Catching King. My guests caught
croakers, flounder, bluefish. No matter where we were, I
caught...toadfish.


Man, that is one nasty looking fish.
http://www.chesapeakebay.net/Info/toadfish.cfm


Yes, indeed. I was good at catching them in Florida, too.


Our garbage fish is the freshwater drum (sheephead).

http://ohiodnr.com/wildlife/fishing/...hid/fwdrum.htm

I also toss carp.
Same here, but back in the '50s, my Dad considered them well worthy of
cleaning and eating, right along with the many catfish. Once in a while,
we'd keep a carp, too, but seldom. Only person, I've ever known who enjoyed
the cleaning of fish as much as the catching. Wish he was still with us.

Tom G

Rusty lures
 

--
******************************************
***** Have a Gay Day, Jim! *****
******************************************

John

Rusty lures
 

Shortwave Sportfishing wrote:
On Sun, 20 Aug 2006 13:06:46 -0700, "Gordon"
wrote:

Marine critters are very sensitive to smell and it is thought the WD40
washes off the human oils that smell bad to fish.
Other oils can also attract fish. One experiment was tried by dipping
herring in a dirty bilge, They caught more fish. Novice women fisherpersons
often do better than their male counterparts. Perfumed hand lotion?

Smokers catch more fish than non-smokers, people who drink beer catch
more fish than non-drinkers...I've heard it all. :)

Yup, me too. I take it with a grain of salt, too!

Rusty lures
 

Harry Krause wrote:
JimH wrote:
"William Bruce" wrote in message
. ..
My question is..........do you think an odor of rust on the lure body
will
keep fish from hitting these lures? If I soak them in the sink with
dishwashing soap will that leave a worse odor on the lures that the fish
will stay away from?
Jim:

Rusty hooks, sharpened with a hook whet rock, have never seemed to produce
any less for me than new ones in the Gulf trolling for Spanish and King
Mackerel..

TIA!



So I guess I am worried about nothing. Thanks.

BTW: I did read a suggestion from a site on the net that said soaking them
in a vinegar and water solution for several hours removes the rust and that
the odor from the vinegar is not a concern. I tried it and it works great.
I am also going to give the lures a spray of WD40. I have heard that stuff
is a great fish attractant and it also protects the lures and hooks from
rusting. ;-)




You know what they say...a vinegar soaking gets rid of that fishy smell.

Indeed! But it's all in the application!!!!

Rusty lures
 

"basskisser" wrote in message
ps.com...

Shortwave Sportfishing wrote:
On Sun, 20 Aug 2006 13:06:46 -0700, "Gordon"
wrote:

Marine critters are very sensitive to smell and it is thought the
WD40
washes off the human oils that smell bad to fish.
Other oils can also attract fish. One experiment was tried by dipping
herring in a dirty bilge, They caught more fish. Novice women
fisherpersons
often do better than their male counterparts. Perfumed hand lotion?


I would change the hooks. After they get rusty for a long time, they get
pitted and weak. For a few bucks you can change the hooks to new and
better hooks.

Rusty lures
 

Calif Bill wrote:
"basskisser" wrote in message
ps.com...

Shortwave Sportfishing wrote:
On Sun, 20 Aug 2006 13:06:46 -0700, "Gordon"
wrote:

Marine critters are very sensitive to smell and it is thought the
WD40
washes off the human oils that smell bad to fish.
Other oils can also attract fish. One experiment was tried by dipping
herring in a dirty bilge, They caught more fish. Novice women
fisherpersons
often do better than their male counterparts. Perfumed hand lotion?


I would change the hooks. After they get rusty for a long time, they get
pitted and weak. For a few bucks you can change the hooks to new and
better hooks.

I change hooks on my lures anyway. I take off the cheap hooks that they
come with, and replace with one of the super sharp brands, such as
Gamatsu.

Rusty lures
 

"Calif Bill" wrote in message
link.net...

"basskisser" wrote in message
ps.com...

Shortwave Sportfishing wrote:
On Sun, 20 Aug 2006 13:06:46 -0700, "Gordon"
wrote:

Marine critters are very sensitive to smell and it is thought the
WD40
washes off the human oils that smell bad to fish.
Other oils can also attract fish. One experiment was tried by
dipping
herring in a dirty bilge, They caught more fish. Novice women
fisherpersons
often do better than their male counterparts. Perfumed hand lotion?


I would change the hooks. After they get rusty for a long time, they get
pitted and weak. For a few bucks you can change the hooks to new and
better hooks.


Thanks Bill. I was planning on doing that as several barbs fell off or
entire hooks fell off where joined to the lure.

So........how do you replace the treble hooks when both the lure body and
the treble hook rings are not split?

Rusty lures
 

JimH wrote:
"Calif Bill" wrote in message
link.net...

"basskisser" wrote in message
ps.com...

Shortwave Sportfishing wrote:
On Sun, 20 Aug 2006 13:06:46 -0700, "Gordon"
wrote:

Marine critters are very sensitive to smell and it is thought the
WD40
washes off the human oils that smell bad to fish.
Other oils can also attract fish. One experiment was tried by
dipping
herring in a dirty bilge, They caught more fish. Novice women
fisherpersons
often do better than their male counterparts. Perfumed hand lotion?


I would change the hooks. After they get rusty for a long time, they get
pitted and weak. For a few bucks you can change the hooks to new and
better hooks.


Thanks Bill. I was planning on doing that as several barbs fell off or
entire hooks fell off where joined to the lure.

So........how do you replace the treble hooks when both the lure body and
the treble hook rings are not split?

Cut the rings, get new split rings, they even make a tool for opening
the rings easier.

Rusty lures
 

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
. ..
JimH wrote:
"Calif Bill" wrote in message
link.net...
"basskisser" wrote in message
ps.com...
Shortwave Sportfishing wrote:
On Sun, 20 Aug 2006 13:06:46 -0700, "Gordon"
wrote:

Marine critters are very sensitive to smell and it is thought the
WD40
washes off the human oils that smell bad to fish.
Other oils can also attract fish. One experiment was tried by
dipping
herring in a dirty bilge, They caught more fish. Novice women
fisherpersons
often do better than their male counterparts. Perfumed hand lotion?

I would change the hooks. After they get rusty for a long time, they
get pitted and weak. For a few bucks you can change the hooks to new
and better hooks.


Thanks Bill. I was planning on doing that as several barbs fell off or
entire hooks fell off where joined to the lure.

So........how do you replace the treble hooks when both the lure body and
the treble hook rings are not split?


I cut off the trebles and any non-split rings on my lures, and put a
single hook on the rear loop only. The lures still seem to pull properly,
even with a lighter hook.

A single hook is easier on the fish and easier on the fisherman.


Gotcha!

http://tinyurl.com/s3vab

Looks like a winter project as this fall will be spent drift fishing for
walleye using Erie Dearies with night crawlers ( http://tinyurl.com/pummg
......chartreuse is my most productive) and when anchored and fishing for
yellow perch using weighted spreaders with #6 long shank barbed hooks tipped
with lake shiners.

The lures that were affected by the rust are used when fishing for bass or
when trolling (not drifting) for walleye, something I don't plan to do this
year.