On Thu, 17 Aug 2006 13:20:07 -0400, thunder
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On Thu, 17 Aug 2006 12:51:20 -0400, Harry Krause wrote:


When I was a kid and we visited the grandparents in Revere, I used to swim
in the ocean at Revere Beach and also at Nantasket Beach. Doubt I would do
it now. I do recall that about 10 years ago, I went for a swim up at Bar
Harbor, and the water temp was only about 60. Brrrrrrr.

Yup, something about kids, they are different. How many times have you
seen a kid, blue lipped, shivering uncontrollably, obviously hypothermic,
telling their parents they aren't cold, and want to go back in the water?
When I was way younger, 60 degrees was refreshing. Now, I find it
literally bone chilling.

When I was a kid my parents took the family for a vacation. Dad's idea
of a vacation was to hook up the travel trailer and drive 14 hours a
day for the entire 4 weeks he had off. So we started in WV and drove
(almost all backroads) through the Dakotas and over to Oregon. We kids
were just as excited as hell to get to the Pacific Ocean and even
though the wind was a bit chilly my brother and me were adament that
we were going swimming in the ocean. We couldn't quite grasp why no
one was in the water and everyone was wearing fairly heavy jackets and
long pants. We rushed down the beach and ran full tilt into the water.

Once we caught our breathe, we got the hell out of there and tried to
get our blood flowing again ;-)

It was a great dissapointment to us that even though we traveled down
the coast all the way to San Francisco it never got warm enough to go
in the ocean. At SF dad turned left and drove back to WV through
Nevada and Utah. Entire 4 weeks we only stayed at two places for more
than one night and never more than 2 nights. I am now much more a "get
somewhere quick and stay" kinda vacation man. Oh yeah, on that road
trip dad had put an 8 track player in the car to supplement the AM
radio. We had two (count 'em - 2) tapes.... and you know there
weren't any AM stations in most of the midwest in 1968....

Dave Hall

Dave Hall wrote:

When I was a kid my parents took the family for a vacation. Dad's idea
of a vacation was to hook up the travel trailer and drive 14 hours a
day for the entire 4 weeks he had off. So we started in WV and drove
(almost all backroads) through the Dakotas and over to Oregon. We kids
were just as excited as hell to get to the Pacific Ocean and even
though the wind was a bit chilly my brother and me were adament that
we were going swimming in the ocean. We couldn't quite grasp why no
one was in the water and everyone was wearing fairly heavy jackets and
long pants. We rushed down the beach and ran full tilt into the water.

Once we caught our breathe, we got the hell out of there and tried to
get our blood flowing again ;-)

It was a great dissapointment to us that even though we traveled down
the coast all the way to San Francisco it never got warm enough to go
in the ocean. At SF dad turned left and drove back to WV through
Nevada and Utah. Entire 4 weeks we only stayed at two places for more
than one night and never more than 2 nights. I am now much more a "get
somewhere quick and stay" kinda vacation man. Oh yeah, on that road
trip dad had put an 8 track player in the car to supplement the AM
radio. We had two (count 'em - 2) tapes.... and you know there
weren't any AM stations in most of the midwest in 1968....

Dave Hall

Mom and dad never did own an automobile...so once a year my uncle would
show up on a Friday night to bundle mom and us (6 kids) for our annual
vacation in Cape Breton. Back then (mid to late '50s & early '60s the
main highways here were back roads.
My uncle could always be counted on to produce a stinky cigar and it was
just a matter of time before one of us got car sick. Once one of us
upchucked over the seat & floor, the rest of us would usually follow.
Sometimes he had an old pickup truck with a homemade bed cap of plywood
and old car seats inside to sit on. Those trips were only about 5 hours
but seemed to take forever. He got the biggest kick when someone
suggested he take along an old puke bucket wetted with turpentine.
For years he loved to tell how he cured us of road sickness by putting
that bucket under our noses whenever we got queasy. For some reason, we
didn't puke into the bucket.

"Don White" wrote in message
...

He got the biggest kick when someone suggested he take along an old puke
bucket wetted with turpentine.
For years he loved to tell how he cured us of road sickness by putting
that bucket under our noses whenever we got queasy. For some reason, we
didn't puke into the bucket.


Think that would work on a boat?

Eisboch

Eisboch wrote:
"Don White" wrote in message
...

He got the biggest kick when someone suggested he take along an old puke
bucket wetted with turpentine.
For years he loved to tell how he cured us of road sickness by putting
that bucket under our noses whenever we got queasy. For some reason, we
didn't puke into the bucket.



Think that would work on a boat?

Eisboch


I should try it next time I get out into the rough stuff.

On Thu, 17 Aug 2006 12:51:20 -0400, Harry Krause
wrote:

I went for a swim
up at Bar Harbor, and the water temp was only about 60.

And that was on a *warm* day. We were in Bar Harbor all of last
August and never went in the water once. By the end of the month the
night time temperatures were down into the 40s, way too cold to be
living on a boat in my opinion.

On Thu, 17 Aug 2006 11:42:42 -0400, Harry Krause
wrote:


I agree your "regional market" is unusual. I still don't understand why
people want to go pleasure boating in water that is too cold to swim in,
year-around. We have our cold weather boating months here - April to
mid-May, mid-October through early December, but even then our air temps
are reasonable, and while I wouldn't swim in water temps below 70F,
there are some around here who do. Right now, in the middle of August,
the ocean water temp around the Seattle area is 55F. Hypothermia. Here,
the water temp is a nice 80F. Swimming weather.

How much is the heater on that alum boat? :}


I sure hope you're not doing a lot of your swimming up by Sandy Point!

Of all the days I've spent on the bay, I can't think of more than a half
dozen where I've gotten my feet in the water. Lots of folks go boating,
fishing, whatever, without swimming at all. If I wanted to swim, I'd find a
nice clean swimming pool, with most of the fecal matter removed!
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"Harry Krause" wrote in message
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JohnH wrote:
On Thu, 17 Aug 2006 11:42:42 -0400, Harry Krause
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I agree your "regional market" is unusual. I still don't understand why
people want to go pleasure boating in water that is too cold to swim in,
year-around. We have our cold weather boating months here - April to
mid-May, mid-October through early December, but even then our air temps
are reasonable, and while I wouldn't swim in water temps below 70F,
there are some around here who do. Right now, in the middle of August,
the ocean water temp around the Seattle area is 55F. Hypothermia. Here,
the water temp is a nice 80F. Swimming weather.

How much is the heater on that alum boat? :}


I sure hope you're not doing a lot of your swimming up by Sandy Point!

Of all the days I've spent on the bay, I can't think of more than a half
dozen where I've gotten my feet in the water. Lots of folks go boating,
fishing, whatever, without swimming at all. If I wanted to swim, I'd find
a
nice clean swimming pool, with most of the fecal matter removed!
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You hang out in the wrong places.

Indeed!

Let's see.......

Taking a dip in a heavily chlorinated and urine filled swimming pool and
looking at tall fences or neighbors houses vs. taking the boat out, finding
a nice sandy beach, having a picnic lunch and afternoon in/on the water with
the family and leisurely returning to the dock while watching a great sunset
on the water.

Hmmmmm............

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JohnH wrote:


Of all the days I've spent on the bay, I can't think of more than a half
dozen where I've gotten my feet in the water. Lots of folks go boating,
fishing, whatever, without swimming at all. If I wanted to swim, I'd find a
nice clean swimming pool, with most of the fecal matter removed!
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Almost nobody willingly goes into the sal****er around here. It's cold
enough to kill you, and surprisingly fast. A few exceptions exist in
places where several hours of low tide exposure allow the underlying
mud to soak up enough solar heat to warm up the water just a bit when
the tide comes back in. Among the best reasons to live in the Pacific
NW one should *not* include extended periods of dry weather or ideal
sal****er swimming conditions. :-)

On 17 Aug 2006 16:45:20 -0700, "Chuck Gould"
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JohnH wrote:


Of all the days I've spent on the bay, I can't think of more than a half
dozen where I've gotten my feet in the water. Lots of folks go boating,
fishing, whatever, without swimming at all. If I wanted to swim, I'd find a
nice clean swimming pool, with most of the fecal matter removed!
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John

Almost nobody willingly goes into the sal****er around here. It's cold
enough to kill you, and surprisingly fast. A few exceptions exist in
places where several hours of low tide exposure allow the underlying
mud to soak up enough solar heat to warm up the water just a bit when
the tide comes back in. Among the best reasons to live in the Pacific
NW one should *not* include extended periods of dry weather or ideal
sal****er swimming conditions. :-)

One of my brothers bought a beach house just north of Ilwaco. I spent a few
days there. The beach was nice, the area was nice, but the water was
frigid. Not like being at the Outer Banks of North Carolina.

The Chesapeake Bay has no beaches like those along the Atlantic Coast,
which are mostly beautiful and warm. The bay is very polluted, and the one
big park (Sandy Point) where sand beaches have been made, was closed to
swimming a couple weeks ago for a high fecal count.

Boating, fishing, picnicking, and just cruising are great on the Bay.
But...it's not a great place to swim.
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