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FREDO August 14th 06 09:11 PM

Bimini top
 
I am going to get a Bimini top installed on my 17.5' Crestliner fishhawk.
Any ideas how much I should expect to pay for this.

Also is sunbrella the best fabric or is there anything better?

Fredo



JimH August 14th 06 09:25 PM

Bimini top
 

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
FREDO wrote:
I am going to get a Bimini top installed on my 17.5' Crestliner fishhawk.
Any ideas how much I should expect to pay for this.

Also is sunbrella the best fabric or is there anything better?

Fredo


About $350 for Sunbrella:

http://tinyurl.com/m24mh


Yep......and quite easy to install. ;-)



[email protected] August 14th 06 09:48 PM

Bimini top
 
FREDO.

good luck with your top. yes, they seem to be popular with several
boats at the lake I attend.

Note to JimH:

If I keep my CCraft Scorpion, I'm thinking on having one custom made .
I've got pics from an orgional (which is way long out of production)
adn a local canvas shop says they can make one for a competetive price
over going with a buggy top.






Harry Krause wrote:
FREDO wrote:
I am going to get a Bimini top installed on my 17.5' Crestliner fishhawk.
Any ideas how much I should expect to pay for this.

Also is sunbrella the best fabric or is there anything better?

Fredo



About $350 for Sunbrella:

http://tinyurl.com/m24mh



JimH August 14th 06 09:54 PM

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wrote in message
ups.com...
FREDO.

good luck with your top. yes, they seem to be popular with several
boats at the lake I attend.

Note to JimH:

If I keep my CCraft Scorpion, I'm thinking on having one custom made .
I've got pics from an orgional (which is way long out of production)
adn a local canvas shop says they can make one for a competetive price
over going with a buggy top.






I had an '87 CC 210 Scorpion with a 5.7L...purchased new from a dealer going
out of business (Exit 9 Marina). I also had a custom top made for it (no
internet deals back then) but when up it looked no different than the ones
sold now on the net.....the ones you call buggy tops.

Are you sure you are not looking for a "convertible top"? The difference
between a convertible and bimini is that you cannot stand under a
convertible.

What year and size is your boat?



[email protected] August 14th 06 10:01 PM

Bimini top
 

JimH wrote:
Are you sure you are not looking for a "convertible top"? The difference
between a convertible and bimini is that you cannot stand under a
convertible.

What year and size is your boat?


'83 169 Scorpion.(listed as 18 ft. on the title..go figure)

Yes, a "convertable" would probably be more descriptive. This top isn't
a straight back design though. nIt would have a raised curve in the
front, and about mid way back would have a "swallow tail" attaching to
the sides.

Kind of hard to describe. but looks pretty good.


JimH August 14th 06 10:04 PM

Bimini top
 

wrote in message
ups.com...

JimH wrote:
Are you sure you are not looking for a "convertible top"? The
difference
between a convertible and bimini is that you cannot stand under a
convertible.

What year and size is your boat?


'83 169 Scorpion.(listed as 18 ft. on the title..go figure)

Yes, a "convertable" would probably be more descriptive. This top isn't
a straight back design though. nIt would have a raised curve in the
front, and about mid way back would have a "swallow tail" attaching to
the sides.

Kind of hard to describe. but looks pretty good.


If you cannot stand underneath it at the helm or in the cockpit and if it
attaches to the windshield frame you will be uncomfortable under it in
anything but cool rainy conditions.

JMO. Don't say I didn't want you. ;-)



JimH August 14th 06 10:11 PM

Bimini top
 

" JimH" not telling you @ pffftt.com wrote in message
. ..

wrote in message
ups.com...

JimH wrote:
Are you sure you are not looking for a "convertible top"? The
difference
between a convertible and bimini is that you cannot stand under a
convertible.

What year and size is your boat?


'83 169 Scorpion.(listed as 18 ft. on the title..go figure)

Yes, a "convertable" would probably be more descriptive. This top isn't
a straight back design though. nIt would have a raised curve in the
front, and about mid way back would have a "swallow tail" attaching to
the sides.

Kind of hard to describe. but looks pretty good.


If you cannot stand underneath it at the helm or in the cockpit and if it
attaches to the windshield frame you will be uncomfortable under it in
anything but cool rainy conditions.

JMO. Don't say I didn't want you. ;-)


OMG..........."WARN you", not "WANT you". How funny!!



[email protected] August 14th 06 10:17 PM

Bimini top
 

JimH wrote:
wrote in message
ups.com...

JimH wrote:


Kind of hard to describe. but looks pretty good.


If you cannot stand underneath it at the helm or in the cockpit and if it
attaches to the windshield frame you will be uncomfortable under it in
anything but cool rainy conditions.

JMO. Don't say I didn't want you. ;-)


I've thought of that. But the windshield does open in the center, and
it's open bow. Besides, it will have ample (I think) side vents that
don't come tight around the side shields. basicly I'd say that even
though attaching at the windshield, it will be open like a buggy top.
BTW, I have a couple `2 v electric fans in the boat now. and they
circulate the air well. I not only need the shade, but also because of
the boats power, or lack of, I want to cut down ont he wind resistance
as well, thusly attaching to the windshield.

I don't know if it's because the bimini's are too tall or not fitted
properly, but when Carlyle lake gets pretty wavy, I see boats with tall
bimini's bobbing around out there, and with the swaying it doesn't look
to me like they give much sun protection anyhow.

All in all, I might be disapointed witht he outcome, but if so..? it's
so!


[email protected] August 14th 06 10:18 PM

Bimini top
 

JimH wrote:


JMO. Don't say I didn't want you. ;-)


Warning being noted.

Also, about the too tall bimini's. they seem like they only offer sun
protection when the sun is almost if not directly over head.


Jack Redington August 15th 06 01:25 AM

Bimini top
 
wrote:
JimH wrote:


JMO. Don't say I didn't want you. ;-)



Warning being noted.

Also, about the too tall bimini's. they seem like they only offer sun
protection when the sun is almost if not directly over head.


Those are the too "small" bimini's

Had one put on a Crownline 225 w/sunbrella for about $800. cover the
whole cockpit very well and is made out of thick tubing etc.

Not a cheaply build bimini, But very sound stuff.

Capt Jack R..


[email protected] August 15th 06 03:42 AM

Bimini top
 

JimH wrote:
JMO. Don't say I didn't want you. ;-)


OMG..........."WARN you", not "WANT you". How funny!!



LOL!

I know what you meant jim.

i dont' get hung up on typos

But JohnH might have fun with that line.....


[email protected] August 15th 06 03:44 AM

Bimini top
 
good thought! I'd like to study it. You don't happen to have any pics
of it, do you?


Jack Redington wrote:
wrote:
JimH wrote:


JMO. Don't say I didn't want you. ;-)



Warning being noted.

Also, about the too tall bimini's. they seem like they only offer sun
protection when the sun is almost if not directly over head.


Those are the too "small" bimini's

Had one put on a Crownline 225 w/sunbrella for about $800. cover the
whole cockpit very well and is made out of thick tubing etc.

Not a cheaply build bimini, But very sound stuff.

Capt Jack R..



John Gaquin August 15th 06 03:55 AM

Bimini top
 

"FREDO" wrote in message news:8O4Eg.60283

I am going to get a Bimini top installed on my 17.5' Crestliner fishhawk.
Any ideas how much I should expect to pay for this.

Also is sunbrella the best fabric or is there anything better?


Don't know any prices, but I was very happy with Sunbrella. Had a full
bridge enclosure made for my 32' Luhrs in '00. Have since sold the boat,
but it is in the area and still looks great.

For your purposes, I would consider paying a bit more for stainless steel
frame and hardware. I've known several folks with mail-order biminis who
lost them in the first heavy wind.



Eisboch August 15th 06 04:36 AM

Bimini top
 

"John Gaquin" wrote in message
. ..

"FREDO" wrote in message news:8O4Eg.60283

I am going to get a Bimini top installed on my 17.5' Crestliner fishhawk.
Any ideas how much I should expect to pay for this.

Also is sunbrella the best fabric or is there anything better?


Don't know any prices, but I was very happy with Sunbrella. Had a full
bridge enclosure made for my 32' Luhrs in '00. Have since sold the boat,
but it is in the area and still looks great.

For your purposes, I would consider paying a bit more for stainless steel
frame and hardware. I've known several folks with mail-order biminis who
lost them in the first heavy wind.


Also, Sunbrella comes in different flavors. There's lightweight, heavy duty
among other options.
I like the type that has a liner on the inside. It may have to be custom
ordered.

Eisboch



Jack Redington August 15th 06 05:58 AM

Bimini top
 
wrote:
good thought! I'd like to study it. You don't happen to have any pics
of it, do you?


Don't have any pic's now, but I could next week. As we having been
hitting the lake place every weekend. And da-wife feels this should be
no exception.

I will try to have them to ya by monday night (as long as I don't forget)

Cheers

Capt Jack R..

Jack Redington wrote:

wrote:

JimH wrote:



JMO. Don't say I didn't want you. ;-)


Warning being noted.

Also, about the too tall bimini's. they seem like they only offer sun
protection when the sun is almost if not directly over head.



Those are the too "small" bimini's

Had one put on a Crownline 225 w/sunbrella for about $800. cover the
whole cockpit very well and is made out of thick tubing etc.

Not a cheaply build bimini, But very sound stuff.

Capt Jack R..






[email protected] August 15th 06 07:27 AM

Bimini top
 
No problem, Jack.

Thanks!


Jack Redington wrote:
wrote:
good thought! I'd like to study it. You don't happen to have any pics
of it, do you?


Don't have any pic's now, but I could next week. As we having been
hitting the lake place every weekend. And da-wife feels this should be
no exception.

I will try to have them to ya by monday night (as long as I don't forget)

Cheers

Capt Jack R..

Jack Redington wrote:

wrote:

JimH wrote:



JMO. Don't say I didn't want you. ;-)


Warning being noted.

Also, about the too tall bimini's. they seem like they only offer sun
protection when the sun is almost if not directly over head.



Those are the too "small" bimini's

Had one put on a Crownline 225 w/sunbrella for about $800. cover the
whole cockpit very well and is made out of thick tubing etc.

Not a cheaply build bimini, But very sound stuff.

Capt Jack R..






JohnH August 15th 06 12:16 PM

Bimini top
 
On 14 Aug 2006 19:42:59 -0700, wrote:


JimH wrote:
JMO. Don't say I didn't want you. ;-)


OMG..........."WARN you", not "WANT you". How funny!!



LOL!

I know what you meant jim.

i dont' get hung up on typos

But JohnH might have fun with that line.....


I was being nice!
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Reginal P. Smithers III August 15th 06 12:19 PM

Bimini top
 
Eisboch wrote:
"John Gaquin" wrote in message
. ..
"FREDO" wrote in message news:8O4Eg.60283

I am going to get a Bimini top installed on my 17.5' Crestliner fishhawk.
Any ideas how much I should expect to pay for this.

Also is sunbrella the best fabric or is there anything better?

Don't know any prices, but I was very happy with Sunbrella. Had a full
bridge enclosure made for my 32' Luhrs in '00. Have since sold the boat,
but it is in the area and still looks great.

For your purposes, I would consider paying a bit more for stainless steel
frame and hardware. I've known several folks with mail-order biminis who
lost them in the first heavy wind.


Also, Sunbrella comes in different flavors. There's lightweight, heavy duty
among other options.
I like the type that has a liner on the inside. It may have to be custom
ordered.

Eisboch



Rich,
I completely agree with the the concept of having a bimini tall enough
so you can stand up to get to the helm, using heavy duty fabric and
stainless steel frame and hardware, and having it custom made (many
shops already have the templates for the most popular boats) but I can't
figure out why one would need, or even want a liner on the the inside.

Since my bimini does not have a liner, I am afraid to ask or I just
might get "liner envy".

jamesgangnc August 15th 06 01:00 PM

Bimini top
 
I've had one of the aluminum frame, sunbrella, mass produced ones for
close to 10 years now. It's still fine. You can get custom made
stainless steel one if you want but as far as I can see you're just
spending a bunch more money.

My boat came with a convertable top that upzipped at the windshield
walkthrough but it was cramped and we only used it to get out of the
rain.

Reginal P. Smithers III wrote:
Eisboch wrote:
"John Gaquin" wrote in message
. ..
"FREDO" wrote in message news:8O4Eg.60283

I am going to get a Bimini top installed on my 17.5' Crestliner fishhawk.
Any ideas how much I should expect to pay for this.

Also is sunbrella the best fabric or is there anything better?
Don't know any prices, but I was very happy with Sunbrella. Had a full
bridge enclosure made for my 32' Luhrs in '00. Have since sold the boat,
but it is in the area and still looks great.

For your purposes, I would consider paying a bit more for stainless steel
frame and hardware. I've known several folks with mail-order biminis who
lost them in the first heavy wind.


Also, Sunbrella comes in different flavors. There's lightweight, heavy duty
among other options.
I like the type that has a liner on the inside. It may have to be custom
ordered.

Eisboch



Rich,
I completely agree with the the concept of having a bimini tall enough
so you can stand up to get to the helm, using heavy duty fabric and
stainless steel frame and hardware, and having it custom made (many
shops already have the templates for the most popular boats) but I can't
figure out why one would need, or even want a liner on the the inside.

Since my bimini does not have a liner, I am afraid to ask or I just
might get "liner envy".



Reginal P. Smithers III August 15th 06 01:09 PM

Bimini top
 
jamesgangnc wrote:
I've had one of the aluminum frame, sunbrella, mass produced ones for
close to 10 years now. It's still fine. You can get custom made
stainless steel one if you want but as far as I can see you're just
spending a bunch more money.

My boat came with a convertable top that upzipped at the windshield
walkthrough but it was cramped and we only used it to get out of the
rain.

Reginal P. Smithers III wrote:
Eisboch wrote:
"John Gaquin" wrote in message
. ..
"FREDO" wrote in message news:8O4Eg.60283

I am going to get a Bimini top installed on my 17.5' Crestliner fishhawk.
Any ideas how much I should expect to pay for this.

Also is sunbrella the best fabric or is there anything better?
Don't know any prices, but I was very happy with Sunbrella. Had a full
bridge enclosure made for my 32' Luhrs in '00. Have since sold the boat,
but it is in the area and still looks great.

For your purposes, I would consider paying a bit more for stainless steel
frame and hardware. I've known several folks with mail-order biminis who
lost them in the first heavy wind.

Also, Sunbrella comes in different flavors. There's lightweight, heavy duty
among other options.
I like the type that has a liner on the inside. It may have to be custom
ordered.

Eisboch


Rich,
I completely agree with the the concept of having a bimini tall enough
so you can stand up to get to the helm, using heavy duty fabric and
stainless steel frame and hardware, and having it custom made (many
shops already have the templates for the most popular boats) but I can't
figure out why one would need, or even want a liner on the the inside.

Since my bimini does not have a liner, I am afraid to ask or I just
might get "liner envy".



I use my for sun protection as much as as rain protection so it stays up
all the time.

Eisboch August 15th 06 01:18 PM

Bimini top
 

"Reginal P. Smithers III" wrote in message
. ..
Eisboch wrote:
"John Gaquin" wrote in message
. ..
"FREDO" wrote in message news:8O4Eg.60283

I am going to get a Bimini top installed on my 17.5' Crestliner
fishhawk. Any ideas how much I should expect to pay for this.

Also is sunbrella the best fabric or is there anything better?
Don't know any prices, but I was very happy with Sunbrella. Had a full
bridge enclosure made for my 32' Luhrs in '00. Have since sold the
boat, but it is in the area and still looks great.

For your purposes, I would consider paying a bit more for stainless
steel frame and hardware. I've known several folks with mail-order
biminis who lost them in the first heavy wind.


Also, Sunbrella comes in different flavors. There's lightweight, heavy
duty among other options.
I like the type that has a liner on the inside. It may have to be custom
ordered.

Eisboch


Rich,
I completely agree with the the concept of having a bimini tall enough so
you can stand up to get to the helm, using heavy duty fabric and stainless
steel frame and hardware, and having it custom made (many shops already
have the templates for the most popular boats) but I can't figure out why
one would need, or even want a liner on the the inside.

Since my bimini does not have a liner, I am afraid to ask or I just might
get "liner envy".


I just mentioned it to illustrate that there are several options when buying
Sunbrella.
The lined version is appropriate for boats with full enclosures installed on
the bridge or upper station. It's truly waterproof (unlike regular
Sunbrella) and also does not pass dirt through it. Anyone who has a boat on
a slip near a busy parking lot knows about the dirt I am talking about.

Eisboch



jamesgangnc August 15th 06 03:53 PM

Bimini top
 
The original poster has a 17 ft runabout.

Eisboch wrote:
"Reginal P. Smithers III" wrote in message
. ..
Eisboch wrote:
"John Gaquin" wrote in message
. ..
"FREDO" wrote in message news:8O4Eg.60283

I am going to get a Bimini top installed on my 17.5' Crestliner
fishhawk. Any ideas how much I should expect to pay for this.

Also is sunbrella the best fabric or is there anything better?
Don't know any prices, but I was very happy with Sunbrella. Had a full
bridge enclosure made for my 32' Luhrs in '00. Have since sold the
boat, but it is in the area and still looks great.

For your purposes, I would consider paying a bit more for stainless
steel frame and hardware. I've known several folks with mail-order
biminis who lost them in the first heavy wind.


Also, Sunbrella comes in different flavors. There's lightweight, heavy
duty among other options.
I like the type that has a liner on the inside. It may have to be custom
ordered.

Eisboch


Rich,
I completely agree with the the concept of having a bimini tall enough so
you can stand up to get to the helm, using heavy duty fabric and stainless
steel frame and hardware, and having it custom made (many shops already
have the templates for the most popular boats) but I can't figure out why
one would need, or even want a liner on the the inside.

Since my bimini does not have a liner, I am afraid to ask or I just might
get "liner envy".


I just mentioned it to illustrate that there are several options when buying
Sunbrella.
The lined version is appropriate for boats with full enclosures installed on
the bridge or upper station. It's truly waterproof (unlike regular
Sunbrella) and also does not pass dirt through it. Anyone who has a boat on
a slip near a busy parking lot knows about the dirt I am talking about.

Eisboch



Reginal P. Smithers III August 15th 06 04:27 PM

Bimini top
 
Shortwave Sportfishing wrote:
On Tue, 15 Aug 2006 08:18:04 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:

The lined version is appropriate for boats with full enclosures installed on
the bridge or upper station. It's truly waterproof (unlike regular
Sunbrella) and also does not pass dirt through it. Anyone who has a boat on
a slip near a busy parking lot knows about the dirt I am talking about.


Yep.



I have a fully enclosed camper set up, but very rarely use it. I just
find it too damn hot and muggy. I do put up the window curtains in
heavy rain, and then only in the front part of the cabin but normally
that is about it.

I do love having the sun protection, and the kids can sun themselves on
the sun pad over the cabin, but even they are and their friends are not
big on laying out in the sun. They normally sit in the shade and chat.

FREDO August 15th 06 04:52 PM

Bimini top
 
Thanks everyone.
This is a big step up for me as my last boat "Miss Daisy" had seen better
days.
I may be asking lots of silly questions.



Fredo

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
FREDO wrote:
I am going to get a Bimini top installed on my 17.5' Crestliner fishhawk.
Any ideas how much I should expect to pay for this.

Also is sunbrella the best fabric or is there anything better?

Fredo


About $350 for Sunbrella:

http://tinyurl.com/m24mh




Calif Bill August 15th 06 09:12 PM

Bimini top
 

"Shortwave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 15 Aug 2006 08:18:04 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:

The lined version is appropriate for boats with full enclosures installed
on
the bridge or upper station. It's truly waterproof (unlike regular
Sunbrella) and also does not pass dirt through it. Anyone who has a boat
on
a slip near a busy parking lot knows about the dirt I am talking about.


Yep.


My cover and top are Topgun fabric. Does not leak and lasts for years.
About the same cost as Sunbrella.



Dan Krueger August 16th 06 01:44 AM

Bimini top
 
Calif Bill wrote:
"Shortwave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...

On Tue, 15 Aug 2006 08:18:04 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:


The lined version is appropriate for boats with full enclosures installed
on
the bridge or upper station. It's truly waterproof (unlike regular
Sunbrella) and also does not pass dirt through it. Anyone who has a boat
on
a slip near a busy parking lot knows about the dirt I am talking about.


Yep.



My cover and top are Topgun fabric. Does not leak and lasts for years.
About the same cost as Sunbrella.



The Topgun fabric I have seen is great stuff. It is also a lot stiffer
(and maybe thicker) than Sunbrella but completely waterproof. This was
a boat cover so it may not be the same Topgun product. If it is the
same I could see a problem rolling it up in a small space.

Dan

JimH August 16th 06 02:00 AM

Bimini top
 

"Dan Krueger" wrote in message
ink.net...
Calif Bill wrote:
"Shortwave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...

On Tue, 15 Aug 2006 08:18:04 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:


The lined version is appropriate for boats with full enclosures
installed on
the bridge or upper station. It's truly waterproof (unlike regular
Sunbrella) and also does not pass dirt through it. Anyone who has a
boat on
a slip near a busy parking lot knows about the dirt I am talking about.

Yep.



My cover and top are Topgun fabric. Does not leak and lasts for years.
About the same cost as Sunbrella.


The Topgun fabric I have seen is great stuff. It is also a lot stiffer
(and maybe thicker) than Sunbrella but completely waterproof. This was a
boat cover so it may not be the same Topgun product. If it is the same I
could see a problem rolling it up in a small space.

Dan


If I recall Top Gun does not breath well, causing condensation when used as
a cockpit or full mooring cover. We used it when we owned the '87 Chris
Craft and had a full mooring cover made of it. It was heavy but very water
proof.



Calif Bill August 16th 06 06:05 AM

Bimini top
 

" JimH" not telling you @ pffftt.com wrote in message
. ..

"Dan Krueger" wrote in message
ink.net...
Calif Bill wrote:
"Shortwave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...

On Tue, 15 Aug 2006 08:18:04 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:


The lined version is appropriate for boats with full enclosures
installed on
the bridge or upper station. It's truly waterproof (unlike regular
Sunbrella) and also does not pass dirt through it. Anyone who has a
boat on
a slip near a busy parking lot knows about the dirt I am talking about.

Yep.


My cover and top are Topgun fabric. Does not leak and lasts for years.
About the same cost as Sunbrella.


The Topgun fabric I have seen is great stuff. It is also a lot stiffer
(and maybe thicker) than Sunbrella but completely waterproof. This was a
boat cover so it may not be the same Topgun product. If it is the same I
could see a problem rolling it up in a small space.

Dan


If I recall Top Gun does not breath well, causing condensation when used
as a cockpit or full mooring cover. We used it when we owned the '87
Chris Craft and had a full mooring cover made of it. It was heavy but
very water proof.


I have both a trailering cover and a bimini of the stuff. My bimini folds
up, and fits into a maybe 10" diameter cover. But is a 21' boat.




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