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JohnH July 23rd 06 02:29 PM

Interesting new car...
 

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JohnH July 23rd 06 02:34 PM

Interesting new car...
 
On Sun, 23 Jul 2006 08:30:43 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:


"Harry Krause" wrote in message
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Eisboch wrote:


Speaking of which (not really), did you get a chance to peruse the
contents of that CD I tucked into your package? Hogan is a master at
explaining the digital game.


I have not, yet. When your package arrived the contents quickly disappeared
into her office area. I've read some of his stuff on some websites.

She is enjoying the camera and already has more accessories for it than I
have for mine, including a flash unit that must weigh 8 lbs. She has a much
better eye for composing a picture than I, so I just watch.

Eisboch


Ask her if she's interested in something like this--

http://www.kenrockwell.com/nikon/70200vr.htm

I could make her a deal.
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[email protected] July 23rd 06 02:46 PM

Interesting new car...
 
In addition to the above comments (e.g. "up to" 250 miles...), I've
also often wondered what kind of flesh-eating chemical mess you'd be in
after a high-speed collision..

Ron M.


Don White July 23rd 06 02:59 PM

Interesting new car...
 
JohnH wrote:
On Sun, 23 Jul 2006 07:46:29 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:


"JohnH" wrote in message
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could small boats be next? This thing is cute, goes a long ways, and has a
nice web site. According to today's NYTimes, it'll cost in the $80-100K
range. Who'll be the first?

http://www.teslamotors.com/



Interesting site and claims, considering they haven't built one yet.
Far be it from me to be cynical, but how, using the best of current battery
technology, can these guys get 250 miles between charges when the best
anybody else can get is 60-100 miles in a much more stripped down and basic
E car? Something does not add up.

Eisboch



Well, the initial info I got came from the NYTimes, so it must be true.

Editorial
Go Speed Racer!

Published: July 23, 2006

Virtue alone will not break the grip that petroleum holds on the automobile
market. That’s why the introduction of a sleek, high-performance roadster
that happens to be electric rather than gasoline-fueled is worth noting.

Tesla Motors, a Silicon Valley start-up, has developed a two-seater that
goes from zero to 60 miles an hour in four seconds, leaving the days of
electric cars as glorified golf carts in the dust. The company seems to
understands what it means to love cars as well as the environment. (On its
Web site, Tesla revels in the power of the car’s acceleration pinning
passengers to their seats.)

With a range of about 250 miles, the Tesla Roadster can go much farther on
a single charge than earlier electric cars. And 150 of those miles cost
about the same as one gallon of gas. But the car itself will not be cheap,
running from $85,000 to $100,000. Rather than a stumbling block in this
case, it’s actually a selling point.

Martin Eberhard, the company’s chief executive, recognizes that new
technologies usually start out as high-end products. He and his team are
making their car the newest hot gadget, a status symbol. If rappers and
football stars buy them, maybe the company can make a dent in the market.

Tesla already has plans for a mainstream vehicle down the road if it can
expand its business. Perhaps this is one area where trickle-down theories
could really work.
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Bet there will be more pedestrian/auto accidents with them. No one
will hear the cars coming.. especially in noisy cities.

Reginald P. Smithers III July 23rd 06 03:07 PM

Interesting new car...
 
Harry Krause wrote:
JohnH wrote:
On Sun, 23 Jul 2006 08:30:43 -0400, "Eisboch"
wrote:

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
. ..

Eisboch wrote:


Speaking of which (not really), did you get a chance to peruse the
contents of that CD I tucked into your package? Hogan is a master at
explaining the digital game.
I have not, yet. When your package arrived the contents quickly
disappeared into her office area. I've read some of his stuff on
some websites.

She is enjoying the camera and already has more accessories for it
than I have for mine, including a flash unit that must weigh 8 lbs.
She has a much better eye for composing a picture than I, so I just
watch.

Eisboch


Ask her if she's interested in something like this--

http://www.kenrockwell.com/nikon/70200vr.htm

I could make her a deal.
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It's a hell of a lens, but doesn't it weigh about three pounds?


It is a monster of a lens, but I would not trade it in. I like the
sharp images and contrast you get with the lens. It is not a "travel"
lens you want to use to just hang around your neck. I actually hold the
lens in my hand up against my chest or hip at all times, and the strap
around my neck is just a "security strap". I have found on cloudy days
the F2.8 across the entire range of the zoom will make a big difference,
especially in the woods vs. the F5.6 at 200mm on the 18-200mm f/3.5-5.6
G ED-IF AF-S VR DX Zoom-Nikkor Lens

If JohnH wants to get rid of it, he can sell it on EBay and probably get
a decent price, but I figure if you amortize it over 20 years it is a
cheap lens. Now, if I die early it might not be such a good deal.

I am still trying to decide if I really need that sweet wide angle lens
you and Ken Rockwell recommended. Do I need the extra 6mm and wider
aperture. I think I am going to hold off till they finally deliver my
18-200 and then compare the two lens.

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That's my story and I am sticking to it!

Eisboch July 23rd 06 04:38 PM

Interesting new car...
 

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
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Eisboch wrote:
"Harry Krause" wrote in message
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Eisboch wrote:


Speaking of which (not really), did you get a chance to peruse the
contents of that CD I tucked into your package? Hogan is a master at
explaining the digital game.


I have not, yet. When your package arrived the contents quickly
disappeared into her office area. I've read some of his stuff on some
websites.

She is enjoying the camera and already has more accessories for it than I
have for mine, including a flash unit that must weigh 8 lbs. She has a
much better eye for composing a picture than I, so I just watch.

Eisboch



What's she using for lenses? I've got a Nikkor 18-70 ED and a 70-300 ED,
both "almost new" that might like a new home. The 18-70 is the lens that
Nikon includes in the D70-D70s kits, and the other is a nice, light tele
that on the digitals covers 105 to 450 mm.


She got a 70-300mm and a wide angle Nikkon something or other (can't
remember). She did not get the 18-70mm. I'll ask her when I go home from
the boat.

Bunch of friends just came back from the annual catch and release shark
tournament.
They were in a 34' Pursuit and got the bannanas kicked out of them. I was
invited to go but passed, thankfully. 15 foot seas, chumming and trying to
catch sharks. No thanks.

Eisboch




Eisboch July 23rd 06 04:45 PM

Interesting new car...
 

"Don White" wrote in message
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Bet there will be more pedestrian/auto accidents with them. No one will
hear the cars coming.. especially in noisy cities.



I never thought of that. I can see it now, given our government. There
will be federal requirements for a bright, strobe light on the roof and a
"ding-ding-ding" announciater whenever it's moving.

Eisboch



Eisboch July 23rd 06 04:58 PM

Interesting new car...
 

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
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The seas were 15-footers when they went out?
D'oh.


The guys that participate in this shark tournament are all nuts. Most of
the boats are bigger than my friend's but even still, drift fishing for
sharks in 15 foot seas is not my idea of fun. I did one of these a few
years ago on a bigger Hatteras. I am not really into fishing, so I did the
video taping for the catch and release judging. I spent the day up on the
tuna bridge (one level up above the flybridge) with one arm wrapped around a
rail and the other holding the camera. Seas were rough, and the boat was
rocking pretty good. Being so high, I'd be rocking 18-20 feet, back and
forth, all day.

At the end of the day the wind really picked up and we headed in, plowing
through 12 footers. It's was the second time in my life that I got sea
sick.

Oh ... remember the Yellowfin with the three, 275 hp Mercs that I posted a
picture of a month or so ago? Those nuts ran out 100 miles from Martha's
Vineyard and back in the heavy seas. Lost the windshield on the CC.

Eisboch



thunder July 23rd 06 06:02 PM

Interesting new car...
 
On Sun, 23 Jul 2006 08:08:35 -0400, JohnH wrote:


Tesla Motors, a Silicon Valley start-up, has developed a two-seater that
goes from zero to 60 miles an hour in four seconds, leaving the days of
electric cars as glorified golf carts in the dust. The company seems to
understands what it means to love cars as well as the environment. (On its
Web site, Tesla revels in the power of the car’s acceleration pinning
passengers to their seats.)

With a range of about 250 miles, the Tesla Roadster can go much farther on
a single charge than earlier electric cars. And 150 of those miles cost
about the same as one gallon of gas. But the car itself will not be cheap,
running from $85,000 to $100,000. Rather than a stumbling block in this
case, it’s actually a selling point.


Nothing really new here. You are forgetting GM's EV1.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/General_Motors_EV1

Of course GM discontinued them. Oh well, just another good reason for the
company's tanking.


JohnH July 23rd 06 07:26 PM

Interesting new car...
 
On Sun, 23 Jul 2006 10:07:44 -0400, "Reginald P. Smithers III"
wrote:

Harry Krause wrote:
JohnH wrote:
On Sun, 23 Jul 2006 08:30:43 -0400, "Eisboch"
wrote:

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
. ..

Eisboch wrote:


Speaking of which (not really), did you get a chance to peruse the
contents of that CD I tucked into your package? Hogan is a master at
explaining the digital game.
I have not, yet. When your package arrived the contents quickly
disappeared into her office area. I've read some of his stuff on
some websites.

She is enjoying the camera and already has more accessories for it
than I have for mine, including a flash unit that must weigh 8 lbs.
She has a much better eye for composing a picture than I, so I just
watch.

Eisboch

Ask her if she's interested in something like this--

http://www.kenrockwell.com/nikon/70200vr.htm

I could make her a deal.
--



It's a hell of a lens, but doesn't it weigh about three pounds?


It is a monster of a lens, but I would not trade it in. I like the
sharp images and contrast you get with the lens. It is not a "travel"
lens you want to use to just hang around your neck. I actually hold the
lens in my hand up against my chest or hip at all times, and the strap
around my neck is just a "security strap". I have found on cloudy days
the F2.8 across the entire range of the zoom will make a big difference,
especially in the woods vs. the F5.6 at 200mm on the 18-200mm f/3.5-5.6
G ED-IF AF-S VR DX Zoom-Nikkor Lens

If JohnH wants to get rid of it, he can sell it on EBay and probably get
a decent price, but I figure if you amortize it over 20 years it is a
cheap lens. Now, if I die early it might not be such a good deal.

I am still trying to decide if I really need that sweet wide angle lens
you and Ken Rockwell recommended. Do I need the extra 6mm and wider
aperture. I think I am going to hold off till they finally deliver my
18-200 and then compare the two lens.


I think I'll hold off until you compare the two and give us the results of
your comparison. Good idea.
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***** Have a Spectacular Day! *****
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