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FWB July 17th 06 07:48 PM

Trailer Wire Repair
 
On Mon, 17 Jul 2006 18:49:09 -0000, Bose wrote:

What would be recommended to cover
the bare wire after I solder it back together?


I would recommend tying a new wire to end of the old wire and just pulling
it through.

If you don't do that, then don't solder the wire. The bouncing of a boat
or a boat trailer will break the solder sooner or later--clamp it, then
put shrink wrap around it to seal it (you can get the
shrink-with-a-hair-dryer kind at Radio Shack for very small change. But
by the time you get the shrink wrap to where you want it, it will have
been more trouble then pulling a new wire.

Electrical tape will hold when wet for a while, but will eventually
unravel.

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Bose July 17th 06 07:49 PM

Trailer Wire Repair
 
My trailer had a wire chewed through by a mouse over the winter. I can
get at the spot that needs to be fixed so I would rather repair it then
pull it all out and rerun wires. Problem is this section of wire will
submerge when launching my boat. What would be recommended to cover
the bare wire after I solder it back together? Thanks for any ideas!


Chuck Tribolet July 17th 06 11:05 PM

Trailer Wire Repair
 
Ancor hot melt glue lined heat shrink. It shrinks, and glues itself to the insulation.
Don't skimp on the length. You can get it in good chandlerly. I've also seen it
at Lowes or Home Depot, but I don't know if their's is marine grade.

Also, as prevention, a cat, preferably the neighbor cat that keeps ****ting in my yard.


"Bose" wrote in message s.com...
My trailer had a wire chewed through by a mouse over the winter. I can
get at the spot that needs to be fixed so I would rather repair it then
pull it all out and rerun wires. Problem is this section of wire will
submerge when launching my boat. What would be recommended to cover
the bare wire after I solder it back together? Thanks for any ideas!




Ron Knapik July 17th 06 11:47 PM

Trailer Wire Repair
 
Both good suggestions. You can also seal it with silicone sealer. Make a
ball around it. This will seal it from water, air and moisture.

Ron

"Bose" wrote in message
s.com...
My trailer had a wire chewed through by a mouse over the winter. I can
get at the spot that needs to be fixed so I would rather repair it then
pull it all out and rerun wires. Problem is this section of wire will
submerge when launching my boat. What would be recommended to cover
the bare wire after I solder it back together? Thanks for any ideas!




Eisboch July 18th 06 12:01 AM

Trailer Wire Repair
 

"Ron Knapik" wrote in message
...
Both good suggestions. You can also seal it with silicone sealer. Make a
ball around it. This will seal it from water, air and moisture.

Ron


Good idea but I've read that you have to be careful of what type of silicone
you use. Apparently at least one type has an acid in it that will eat away
and corrode the wire.

Eisboch



JimH July 18th 06 12:07 AM

Trailer Wire Repair
 

"Eisboch" wrote in message
...

"Ron Knapik" wrote in message
...
Both good suggestions. You can also seal it with silicone sealer. Make
a ball around it. This will seal it from water, air and moisture.

Ron


Good idea but I've read that you have to be careful of what type of
silicone you use. Apparently at least one type has an acid in it that
will eat away and corrode the wire.

Eisboch


I always wondered about that. Is that why 'dielectric' silicone is
recommended for exposed electrical wiring connections exposed to the
elements?



JimH July 18th 06 12:11 AM

Trailer Wire Repair
 

" JimH" jimhUNDERSCOREosudad@yahooDOTcom wrote in message
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"Eisboch" wrote in message
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"Ron Knapik" wrote in message
...
Both good suggestions. You can also seal it with silicone sealer. Make
a ball around it. This will seal it from water, air and moisture.

Ron


Good idea but I've read that you have to be careful of what type of
silicone you use. Apparently at least one type has an acid in it that
will eat away and corrode the wire.

Eisboch


I always wondered about that. Is that why 'dielectric' silicone is
recommended for electrical wiring connections exposed to the elements?




Eisboch July 18th 06 12:23 AM

Trailer Wire Repair
 

" JimH" jimhUNDERSCOREosudad@yahooDOTcom wrote in message
...

"Eisboch" wrote in message
...

"Ron Knapik" wrote in message
...
Both good suggestions. You can also seal it with silicone sealer. Make
a ball around it. This will seal it from water, air and moisture.

Ron


Good idea but I've read that you have to be careful of what type of
silicone you use. Apparently at least one type has an acid in it that
will eat away and corrode the wire.

Eisboch


I always wondered about that. Is that why 'dielectric' silicone is
recommended for exposed electrical wiring connections exposed to the
elements?


Not really. A dielectric means it will conduct electricity.
I can't remember right now which of the silicone "sealers" is the one to
avoid when sealing electrical connections, but I do remember the issue about
it corroding the wires over time.

Eisboch



Eisboch July 18th 06 12:31 AM

Trailer Wire Repair
 

http://www.neelyindustries.com/pdf/738.pdf#search='silicone%20sealant%20electrical'


Eisboch



Vince July 18th 06 12:51 AM

Trailer Wire Repair
 

"Eisboch" wrote in message
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Not really. A dielectric means it will conduct electricity.


Dielectric means it insulates not conducts.



Dan Krueger July 18th 06 01:23 AM

Trailer Wire Repair
 
Bose wrote:

My trailer had a wire chewed through by a mouse over the winter. I can
get at the spot that needs to be fixed so I would rather repair it then
pull it all out and rerun wires. Problem is this section of wire will
submerge when launching my boat. What would be recommended to cover
the bare wire after I solder it back together? Thanks for any ideas!



Great product. Tough to use "overhead" so be careful.

http://shopping.rexmar.com/Merchant2...Code=starbrite

You can buy this at any marine store and probably automotive stores.

Eisboch July 18th 06 01:44 AM

Trailer Wire Repair
 

"Vince" wrote in message
news:zoVug.4165$Lw.3638@trnddc07...

"Eisboch" wrote in message
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Not really. A dielectric means it will conduct electricity.


Dielectric means it insulates not conducts.


ooopppss!

You are right, of course. I had it backwards. The dielectrics are available
as a grease though, not a curable silicone to the best of my knowledge,
although I didn't look for it.

There are noncorrosive silicones designed to seal electrical connections.

Eisboch



JimH July 18th 06 02:53 AM

Trailer Wire Repair
 

"Eisboch" wrote in message
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"Vince" wrote in message
news:zoVug.4165$Lw.3638@trnddc07...

"Eisboch" wrote in message
...

Not really. A dielectric means it will conduct electricity.


Dielectric means it insulates not conducts.


ooopppss!

You are right, of course. I had it backwards. The dielectrics are
available as a grease though, not a curable silicone to the best of my
knowledge, although I didn't look for it.

There are noncorrosive silicones designed to seal electrical connections.

Eisboch


I have always soldered then heat shrink wrapped my electrical connections on
the boat. What advantage does the noncorrosive silicone add to the mix?
Does it replace the heat shrink wrap and do a better job?



Eisboch July 18th 06 03:00 AM

Trailer Wire Repair
 

" JimH" jimhUNDERSCOREosudad@yahooDOTcom wrote in message
. ..

"Eisboch" wrote in message
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"Vince" wrote in message
news:zoVug.4165$Lw.3638@trnddc07...

"Eisboch" wrote in message
...

Not really. A dielectric means it will conduct electricity.

Dielectric means it insulates not conducts.


ooopppss!

You are right, of course. I had it backwards. The dielectrics are
available as a grease though, not a curable silicone to the best of my
knowledge, although I didn't look for it.

There are noncorrosive silicones designed to seal electrical connections.

Eisboch


I have always soldered then heat shrink wrapped my electrical connections
on the boat. What advantage does the noncorrosive silicone add to the
mix? Does it replace the heat shrink wrap and do a better job?


I don't know. I've always heat shrinked also. I found out about the
silicon sealant issue when I was installing buried wiring for a sprinkler
system. The connections were made with wirenuts and I was advised to fill
them with silicon "rubber" but of the type that would not corrode the wires.

Eisboch



JimH July 18th 06 03:08 AM

Trailer Wire Repair
 

"Eisboch" wrote in message
...

" JimH" jimhUNDERSCOREosudad@yahooDOTcom wrote in message
. ..

"Eisboch" wrote in message
...

"Vince" wrote in message
news:zoVug.4165$Lw.3638@trnddc07...

"Eisboch" wrote in message
...

Not really. A dielectric means it will conduct electricity.

Dielectric means it insulates not conducts.


ooopppss!

You are right, of course. I had it backwards. The dielectrics are
available as a grease though, not a curable silicone to the best of my
knowledge, although I didn't look for it.

There are noncorrosive silicones designed to seal electrical
connections.

Eisboch


I have always soldered then heat shrink wrapped my electrical connections
on the boat. What advantage does the noncorrosive silicone add to the
mix? Does it replace the heat shrink wrap and do a better job?


I don't know. I've always heat shrinked also. I found out about the
silicon sealant issue when I was installing buried wiring for a sprinkler
system. The connections were made with wirenuts and I was advised to fill
them with silicon "rubber" but of the type that would not corrode the
wires.

Eisboch


I ran across the same thing earlier this spring with landscape lighting. I
soldered the connections, gave them a squirt of silicone (the sealant type
used around windows), then wrapped them in electrical tape.

I hope that lasts for at least 4 years as we will be selling the house and
moving to our retirement house on the water soon before then. ;-)



jamesgangnc July 18th 06 06:39 PM

Trailer Wire Repair
 
For the ultimate I've soldered, put some silicon on, and then covered
with heat shrink. Shrink it and then wipe off the excess silicon.

JimH wrote:
"Eisboch" wrote in message
...

" JimH" jimhUNDERSCOREosudad@yahooDOTcom wrote in message
. ..

"Eisboch" wrote in message
...

"Vince" wrote in message
news:zoVug.4165$Lw.3638@trnddc07...

"Eisboch" wrote in message
...

Not really. A dielectric means it will conduct electricity.

Dielectric means it insulates not conducts.


ooopppss!

You are right, of course. I had it backwards. The dielectrics are
available as a grease though, not a curable silicone to the best of my
knowledge, although I didn't look for it.

There are noncorrosive silicones designed to seal electrical
connections.

Eisboch


I have always soldered then heat shrink wrapped my electrical connections
on the boat. What advantage does the noncorrosive silicone add to the
mix? Does it replace the heat shrink wrap and do a better job?


I don't know. I've always heat shrinked also. I found out about the
silicon sealant issue when I was installing buried wiring for a sprinkler
system. The connections were made with wirenuts and I was advised to fill
them with silicon "rubber" but of the type that would not corrode the
wires.

Eisboch


I ran across the same thing earlier this spring with landscape lighting. I
soldered the connections, gave them a squirt of silicone (the sealant type
used around windows), then wrapped them in electrical tape.

I hope that lasts for at least 4 years as we will be selling the house and
moving to our retirement house on the water soon before then. ;-)



Eisboch July 18th 06 08:55 PM

Trailer Wire Repair
 

"jamesgangnc" wrote in message
ups.com...


For the ultimate I've soldered, put some silicon on, and then covered
with heat shrink. Shrink it and then wipe off the excess silicon.


Good for landscape wiring, but I think the OP was talking about boat wiring.
My understanding is that solder connections are not recommended on a boat
due to the potential of vibration and shock loads breaking the resultant
stiff connection.

Eisboch




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