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Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:
Harry Krause wrote:
basskisser wrote:
Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:
basskisser wrote:
Harry Krause wrote:
Amazon got my new Makita compressor to me today, as promised, in two
delivery days, and without charging me for shipping.

It arrived in a sturdy, padded cardboard box via FEDEX. No damage.

So, I opened the pressure and regulator valves, poured in the oil and
let it run for its 20-minute break-in, per the manual. Yes, I RTFM.

It's very quiet, much more quiet than any other similar compressor I
have encountered. Makita was not lying. Seems to be nicely made, too.

Now, I have a set of Porter Cable accessories, but I don't seem to
have
any nylon tape around. I presume, and this is my question, that one
still needs to use nylon tape on air tool screw-in fittings? Or has
technology changed?
I would certainly use Teflon tape. I hate leaks.

Bassy,
So would I, but I can't think of any reason it is neccessary, which was
Harry's question. The leak would be so little, I don't think the leak
would impact on the funtionality of the tool or the compressor. Unless
you were keeping the compressor on you would never notice the tiny leak
around the threads.

--
Reggie

That's my story and I am sticking to it!

This is all true, but if a tank leaks, you don't have the ability to
turn it on, compress air in the tank, then take it to somewhere. Lets
say you keep your trailer in a yard 15 miles away. With the small
tank(s), you would have little or no air when you got there. Besides,
there's no reason to not do the job correctly!



Good grief. I paid $1.00 for a roll of teflon tape, and it took me five
minutes to "tape" the fittings I wanted taped. Reggie needs to get a life.



Harry,

I must have missed something, I didn't say you shouldn't tape the
fittings. I definitely would have, and said so, but I can think of
nothing that would have been damaged by not taping the threads. The
only negative I could see by not taping them is the air would bleed out
if you left the tool on the hose.

Since everyone knows the tape costs about a buck, and it is always easy
to apply the tape, I couldn't figure out why you asked the question "Is
it NECESSARY to use Teflon tape".


Reggie, it isn't NECESSARY to use hose washers on your hoses to your
washing machine in the house, but it's a pretty damned good idea!!

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Yeah, they did the last time I bought a compressor, about 15 years ago. Oh
well. I got a new roll now!



That's what you get for buying such a cheap, shoddy compressor.
Hell, even Sears gives you a roll of Teflon tape. :-)

Eisboch


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On Thu, 29 Jun 2006 16:50:03 -0400, Harry Krause
wrote:

basskisser wrote:
Harry Krause wrote:
basskisser wrote:
Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:
basskisser wrote:
Harry Krause wrote:
Amazon got my new Makita compressor to me today, as promised, in two
delivery days, and without charging me for shipping.

It arrived in a sturdy, padded cardboard box via FEDEX. No damage.

So, I opened the pressure and regulator valves, poured in the oil and
let it run for its 20-minute break-in, per the manual. Yes, I RTFM.

It's very quiet, much more quiet than any other similar compressor I
have encountered. Makita was not lying. Seems to be nicely made, too.

Now, I have a set of Porter Cable accessories, but I don't seem to have
any nylon tape around. I presume, and this is my question, that one
still needs to use nylon tape on air tool screw-in fittings? Or has
technology changed?
I would certainly use Teflon tape. I hate leaks.

Bassy,
So would I, but I can't think of any reason it is neccessary, which was
Harry's question. The leak would be so little, I don't think the leak
would impact on the funtionality of the tool or the compressor. Unless
you were keeping the compressor on you would never notice the tiny leak
around the threads.

--
Reggie

That's my story and I am sticking to it!
This is all true, but if a tank leaks, you don't have the ability to
turn it on, compress air in the tank, then take it to somewhere. Lets
say you keep your trailer in a yard 15 miles away. With the small
tank(s), you would have little or no air when you got there. Besides,
there's no reason to not do the job correctly!


Good grief. I paid $1.00 for a roll of teflon tape, and it took me five
minutes to "tape" the fittings I wanted taped. Reggie needs to get a life.


You'll be glad you did. I'm kinda surprised that they didn't throw in a
roll with your compressor, they sometimes do.



Yeah, they did the last time I bought a compressor, about 15 years ago.
Oh well. I got a new roll now!


Now you can use it for new shower heads, new faucets, and even a new water
valve for your ice maker! Isn't that great stuff?
--
John H

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On Thu, 29 Jun 2006 16:49:10 -0400, Harry Krause
wrote:

Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:
Harry Krause wrote:
basskisser wrote:
Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:
basskisser wrote:
Harry Krause wrote:
Amazon got my new Makita compressor to me today, as promised, in two
delivery days, and without charging me for shipping.

It arrived in a sturdy, padded cardboard box via FEDEX. No damage.

So, I opened the pressure and regulator valves, poured in the oil and
let it run for its 20-minute break-in, per the manual. Yes, I RTFM.

It's very quiet, much more quiet than any other similar compressor I
have encountered. Makita was not lying. Seems to be nicely made, too.

Now, I have a set of Porter Cable accessories, but I don't seem to
have
any nylon tape around. I presume, and this is my question, that one
still needs to use nylon tape on air tool screw-in fittings? Or has
technology changed?
I would certainly use Teflon tape. I hate leaks.

Bassy,
So would I, but I can't think of any reason it is neccessary, which was
Harry's question. The leak would be so little, I don't think the leak
would impact on the funtionality of the tool or the compressor. Unless
you were keeping the compressor on you would never notice the tiny leak
around the threads.

--
Reggie

That's my story and I am sticking to it!
This is all true, but if a tank leaks, you don't have the ability to
turn it on, compress air in the tank, then take it to somewhere. Lets
say you keep your trailer in a yard 15 miles away. With the small
tank(s), you would have little or no air when you got there. Besides,
there's no reason to not do the job correctly!


Good grief. I paid $1.00 for a roll of teflon tape, and it took me five
minutes to "tape" the fittings I wanted taped. Reggie needs to get a life.



Harry,

I must have missed something, I didn't say you shouldn't tape the
fittings. I definitely would have, and said so, but I can think of
nothing that would have been damaged by not taping the threads. The
only negative I could see by not taping them is the air would bleed out
if you left the tool on the hose.

Since everyone knows the tape costs about a buck, and it is always easy
to apply the tape, I couldn't figure out why you asked the question "Is
it NECESSARY to use Teflon tape". The only reason I could guess you
asked the question is you were too far away from the stores to buy the
tape, and was wondering if you would damage your threads by not using
tape. I did not think it would damage the threads on the hose or the
fitting on the hose, which was what I thought was your question.

I am curious, if it was not a big deal to get the tape, everyone knows
Teflon takes prevents leaks on threads, everyone knows it is very easy
to apply, WHY DID YOU ASK THE QUESTIONS?


Obviously, you didn't read my post. It's been years and years since I
bought a compressor, and my question was whether there were any tech
advance in that time period that obviated the need for the tape.


Yes. Brass fittings were invented, which allowed for little air loss when
tightened hand tight.
--
John H

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JohnH wrote:
On Thu, 29 Jun 2006 16:49:10 -0400, Harry Krause
wrote:

Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:
Harry Krause wrote:
basskisser wrote:
Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:
basskisser wrote:
Harry Krause wrote:
Amazon got my new Makita compressor to me today, as promised, in two
delivery days, and without charging me for shipping.

It arrived in a sturdy, padded cardboard box via FEDEX. No damage.

So, I opened the pressure and regulator valves, poured in the oil and
let it run for its 20-minute break-in, per the manual. Yes, I RTFM.

It's very quiet, much more quiet than any other similar compressor I
have encountered. Makita was not lying. Seems to be nicely made, too.

Now, I have a set of Porter Cable accessories, but I don't seem to
have
any nylon tape around. I presume, and this is my question, that one
still needs to use nylon tape on air tool screw-in fittings? Or has
technology changed?
I would certainly use Teflon tape. I hate leaks.

Bassy,
So would I, but I can't think of any reason it is neccessary, which was
Harry's question. The leak would be so little, I don't think the leak
would impact on the funtionality of the tool or the compressor. Unless
you were keeping the compressor on you would never notice the tiny leak
around the threads.

--
Reggie

That's my story and I am sticking to it!
This is all true, but if a tank leaks, you don't have the ability to
turn it on, compress air in the tank, then take it to somewhere. Lets
say you keep your trailer in a yard 15 miles away. With the small
tank(s), you would have little or no air when you got there. Besides,
there's no reason to not do the job correctly!

Good grief. I paid $1.00 for a roll of teflon tape, and it took me five
minutes to "tape" the fittings I wanted taped. Reggie needs to get a life.

Harry,

I must have missed something, I didn't say you shouldn't tape the
fittings. I definitely would have, and said so, but I can think of
nothing that would have been damaged by not taping the threads. The
only negative I could see by not taping them is the air would bleed out
if you left the tool on the hose.

Since everyone knows the tape costs about a buck, and it is always easy
to apply the tape, I couldn't figure out why you asked the question "Is
it NECESSARY to use Teflon tape". The only reason I could guess you
asked the question is you were too far away from the stores to buy the
tape, and was wondering if you would damage your threads by not using
tape. I did not think it would damage the threads on the hose or the
fitting on the hose, which was what I thought was your question.

I am curious, if it was not a big deal to get the tape, everyone knows
Teflon takes prevents leaks on threads, everyone knows it is very easy
to apply, WHY DID YOU ASK THE QUESTIONS?

Obviously, you didn't read my post. It's been years and years since I
bought a compressor, and my question was whether there were any tech
advance in that time period that obviated the need for the tape.


Yes. Brass fittings were invented, which allowed for little air loss when
tightened hand tight.
--
John H

******************************************
***** Have a Spectacular Day! *****
******************************************



That really seems too obvious doesn't it. In my ignorance, I thought
Harry was sitting there living in God's country wanting to use his
compressor, but didn't want to damage it, or Harry just wanted to chat
about his compressor, in which case, my post responded to both of his
needs.

The thread kicked around the topic in a positive cheerful manner without
any arguments from any of the participants.


Reggie

That's my story and I am sticking to it!


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On Fri, 30 Jun 2006 10:05:37 -0400, "Reginald P. Smithers III"
wrote:

JohnH wrote:
On Thu, 29 Jun 2006 16:49:10 -0400, Harry Krause
wrote:

Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:
Harry Krause wrote:
basskisser wrote:
Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:
basskisser wrote:
Harry Krause wrote:
Amazon got my new Makita compressor to me today, as promised, in two
delivery days, and without charging me for shipping.

It arrived in a sturdy, padded cardboard box via FEDEX. No damage.

So, I opened the pressure and regulator valves, poured in the oil and
let it run for its 20-minute break-in, per the manual. Yes, I RTFM.

It's very quiet, much more quiet than any other similar compressor I
have encountered. Makita was not lying. Seems to be nicely made, too.

Now, I have a set of Porter Cable accessories, but I don't seem to
have
any nylon tape around. I presume, and this is my question, that one
still needs to use nylon tape on air tool screw-in fittings? Or has
technology changed?
I would certainly use Teflon tape. I hate leaks.

Bassy,
So would I, but I can't think of any reason it is neccessary, which was
Harry's question. The leak would be so little, I don't think the leak
would impact on the funtionality of the tool or the compressor. Unless
you were keeping the compressor on you would never notice the tiny leak
around the threads.

--
Reggie

That's my story and I am sticking to it!
This is all true, but if a tank leaks, you don't have the ability to
turn it on, compress air in the tank, then take it to somewhere. Lets
say you keep your trailer in a yard 15 miles away. With the small
tank(s), you would have little or no air when you got there. Besides,
there's no reason to not do the job correctly!

Good grief. I paid $1.00 for a roll of teflon tape, and it took me five
minutes to "tape" the fittings I wanted taped. Reggie needs to get a life.

Harry,

I must have missed something, I didn't say you shouldn't tape the
fittings. I definitely would have, and said so, but I can think of
nothing that would have been damaged by not taping the threads. The
only negative I could see by not taping them is the air would bleed out
if you left the tool on the hose.

Since everyone knows the tape costs about a buck, and it is always easy
to apply the tape, I couldn't figure out why you asked the question "Is
it NECESSARY to use Teflon tape". The only reason I could guess you
asked the question is you were too far away from the stores to buy the
tape, and was wondering if you would damage your threads by not using
tape. I did not think it would damage the threads on the hose or the
fitting on the hose, which was what I thought was your question.

I am curious, if it was not a big deal to get the tape, everyone knows
Teflon takes prevents leaks on threads, everyone knows it is very easy
to apply, WHY DID YOU ASK THE QUESTIONS?

Obviously, you didn't read my post. It's been years and years since I
bought a compressor, and my question was whether there were any tech
advance in that time period that obviated the need for the tape.


Yes. Brass fittings were invented, which allowed for little air loss when
tightened hand tight.
--
John H

******************************************
***** Have a Spectacular Day! *****
******************************************



That really seems too obvious doesn't it. In my ignorance, I thought
Harry was sitting there living in God's country wanting to use his
compressor, but didn't want to damage it, or Harry just wanted to chat
about his compressor, in which case, my post responded to both of his
needs.

The thread kicked around the topic in a positive cheerful manner without
any arguments from any of the participants.


Reggie

That's my story and I am sticking to it!


Here, it's best not to count your cheerful threads before they hatch!

Or am I just blowing hot air?
--
John H

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Harry Krause wrote:
Wayne.B wrote:

On Wed, 28 Jun 2006 17:51:30 -0400, Harry Krause
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I teflon-taped the appropriate fittings. I am *really* impressed with
how relatively quiet this compressor is. I read the specs, and it
says 79 dB. Most of the others whose specs I've seen are 90 dB or
more. That's a BIG difference.



I think a lot of that is because it is an oil lubed compressor, not
suitable for diving unfortunately. I've always been impressed with
Makita's tools in general, and have had one of their nice little palm
sanders for a zillion years.

What kind of air tools are you using?



The usual inflators, plus an impact wrench, nailer, an old sander I
inherited, et cetera. I might use it to paint the inside of my garage, too.


Harry,

You will be very disappointed when you try to use the sander or paint
with it. You will need a compressor with a much larger tank and a pump
that produces more air. Some people buy a plain air tank and run it
inline but you are still limited to the volume of that tank. It will
only give you a bit more time to run a tool until the compressor runs
even longer to pressurize both tanks.

Makita compressors are designed for short bursts for nailers. Anything
that requires a lot of "free air" will suffer while your compressor
struggles to maintain pressure.

As a side note, Makita assembles compressors. They don't make them.
The pumps on decent electrics are usually made in Italy from a
manufacturer that starts with an "F" - there are three big companies.

Hopefully yours is splash lubricated rather than the "oiless" type
unless you will use it only occasionally. If it is, make sure you run
it on a level surface and when you change the oil, use only
non-detergent motor oil.

Dan
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