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JohnH June 8th 06 08:30 PM

Yo - JohnH...
 
On Thu, 08 Jun 2006 10:35:53 GMT, Shortwave Sportfishing
wrote:

Fishing report for yesterday.

Rain, moderate winds, had to run with radar - boated 33 schoolies
before I called a halt to the festivities.


Yesterday's news reported a fish kill down south of you, off the NC coast I
believe. Pictures showed many, many dead stripers, mixed with some smaller
fish, maybe croakers. Anything like that happening up your way?
--
John H

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***** Have a Spectacular Day! *****
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JohnH June 8th 06 08:47 PM

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On Thu, 08 Jun 2006 19:41:01 GMT, Shortwave Sportfishing
wrote:

On Thu, 08 Jun 2006 15:30:47 -0400, JohnH wrote:

On Thu, 08 Jun 2006 10:35:53 GMT, Shortwave Sportfishing
wrote:

Fishing report for yesterday.

Rain, moderate winds, had to run with radar - boated 33 schoolies
before I called a halt to the festivities.


Yesterday's news reported a fish kill down south of you, off the NC coast I
believe. Pictures showed many, many dead stripers, mixed with some smaller
fish, maybe croakers. Anything like that happening up your way?


No - but we're seeing a lot of "sick" fish - lesions and such.


Hell, many in the Bay were thinking the lesion covered stripers were unique
to the bay. I suppose you could be seeing fish that picked it up in the bay
and then headed north. Or maybe the problem is more widespread than I
thought.

Today's news talks of fish kills in the southern Potomac - stripers,
croakers, rays, etc. A week or so ago, maybe longer, we had a big spill
from the Blue Plains sewage treatment plant. Don't know if that's the
problem or if the crap is coming from somewhere else. It's bad news though.
Hope it doesn't affect your livelihood.
--
John H

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***** Have a Spectacular Day! *****
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JimH June 8th 06 08:49 PM

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"Shortwave Sportfishing" wrote in message
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On Thu, 08 Jun 2006 15:30:47 -0400, JohnH wrote:

On Thu, 08 Jun 2006 10:35:53 GMT, Shortwave Sportfishing
wrote:

Fishing report for yesterday.

Rain, moderate winds, had to run with radar - boated 33 schoolies
before I called a halt to the festivities.


Yesterday's news reported a fish kill down south of you, off the NC coast
I
believe. Pictures showed many, many dead stripers, mixed with some smaller
fish, maybe croakers. Anything like that happening up your way?


No - but we're seeing a lot of "sick" fish - lesions and such.


We are seeing a large die off of freshwater drum (sheephead) here on the
western basin of Lake Erie. We first noticed it a couple of weeks ago when
we were out. I had first thought they were killed by fishermen (this is the
peak of the walleye season here) as the sheephead often take the bait. Most
fishermen kill them and throw them back for the gulls. The number of dead
fish was too large for that situation though.

http://www.ohiooutdoornews.com/artic...news/news1.txt

Sheephead are a useless fish and I am glad to see them go. The problem,
however, is the stench as they lie dead along the beaches. Lakefront
property owners are being told to bury them and cover them with lime.



JoeSpareBedroom June 9th 06 12:07 PM

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" JimH" jimhUNDERSCOREosudad@yahooDOTcom wrote in message
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"Shortwave Sportfishing" wrote in message
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On Thu, 08 Jun 2006 15:30:47 -0400, JohnH wrote:

On Thu, 08 Jun 2006 10:35:53 GMT, Shortwave Sportfishing
wrote:

Fishing report for yesterday.

Rain, moderate winds, had to run with radar - boated 33 schoolies
before I called a halt to the festivities.

Yesterday's news reported a fish kill down south of you, off the NC coast
I
believe. Pictures showed many, many dead stripers, mixed with some
smaller
fish, maybe croakers. Anything like that happening up your way?


No - but we're seeing a lot of "sick" fish - lesions and such.


We are seeing a large die off of freshwater drum (sheephead) here on the
western basin of Lake Erie. We first noticed it a couple of weeks ago
when we were out. I had first thought they were killed by fishermen (this
is the peak of the walleye season here) as the sheephead often take the
bait. Most fishermen kill them and throw them back for the gulls. The
number of dead fish was too large for that situation though.

http://www.ohiooutdoornews.com/artic...news/news1.txt

Sheephead are a useless fish and I am glad to see them go. The problem,
however, is the stench as they lie dead along the beaches. Lakefront
property owners are being told to bury them and cover them with lime.


Half the sources I've read say they're useless, and half say the taste is
totally bland, like haddock. As it turns out, you can use it as a substitute
for crab in crab cake recipes, and it's terrific.



Tim June 9th 06 01:35 PM

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JimH wrote:
Lakefront
property owners are being told to bury them and cover them with lime.


They need to call in a team of Norwegians, Sounds like Ludifisk, to
me....


[email protected] June 9th 06 02:24 PM

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JimH wrote:


Sheephead are a useless fish and I am glad to see them go. The problem,
however, is the stench as they lie dead along the beaches. Lakefront
property owners are being told to bury them and cover them with lime.


No such thing as useless in nature. Even the worst misfit serves a
purpose in the grand scheme of things.

Besides, here's an interesting comment about that very perception from
the article you linked:

"Let's face it, if people weren't educating others that these
fish are 'bad' then we wouldn't come away with that
perception," he said. "I've had kids on my boat and had them hook
into some nice drum that's bigger than the perch that's coming in.
If you're not beating the fish over the head and talking about how
bad it is, that kid will think he's caught a nice fish ... It is what
you make it."

If they are an easy fish for kids to catch, that's a big plus. The
author is right on with his observation. Back when I was a
pre-kindergarten kid I caught my first fish. I reeled that little
sucker in all by myself, and for a moment I was so proud and excited,
you would have thought I had won first place in a major tournament.
Almost immediately, I was made to feel as though I had done something
wrong by the adults on hand, "Oh, look. It's only a gawddam
bullhead....." Wonder if that's why I can take or leave fishing, even
to this day?
Probably not, really, but it could be a minor factor.


JimH June 9th 06 06:28 PM

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JimH wrote:


Sheephead are a useless fish and I am glad to see them go. The problem,
however, is the stench as they lie dead along the beaches. Lakefront
property owners are being told to bury them and cover them with lime.


No such thing as useless in nature. Even the worst misfit serves a
purpose in the grand scheme of things.

Besides, here's an interesting comment about that very perception from
the article you linked:

"Let's face it, if people weren't educating others that these
fish are 'bad' then we wouldn't come away with that
perception," he said. "I've had kids on my boat and had them hook
into some nice drum that's bigger than the perch that's coming in.
If you're not beating the fish over the head and talking about how
bad it is, that kid will think he's caught a nice fish ... It is what
you make it."

If they are an easy fish for kids to catch, that's a big plus. The
author is right on with his observation. Back when I was a
pre-kindergarten kid I caught my first fish. I reeled that little
sucker in all by myself, and for a moment I was so proud and excited,
you would have thought I had won first place in a major tournament.
Almost immediately, I was made to feel as though I had done something
wrong by the adults on hand, "Oh, look. It's only a gawddam
bullhead....." Wonder if that's why I can take or leave fishing, even
to this day?
Probably not, really, but it could be a minor factor.


One can go an entire day of drift fishing in late Spring and not catch a
thing. If I am going to take kids out fishing it will be to a farm pond not
on Lake Erie. That experience is far more productive and will help
reinforce the idea to them that fishing is fun. A non productive fishing
day on a drifting boat will do the exact opposite for a kid.

As to the sheephead...........their only use is food for the gulls.



JohnH June 9th 06 07:58 PM

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On Fri, 09 Jun 2006 11:07:56 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:


" JimH" jimhUNDERSCOREosudad@yahooDOTcom wrote in message
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"Shortwave Sportfishing" wrote in message
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On Thu, 08 Jun 2006 15:30:47 -0400, JohnH wrote:

On Thu, 08 Jun 2006 10:35:53 GMT, Shortwave Sportfishing
wrote:

Fishing report for yesterday.

Rain, moderate winds, had to run with radar - boated 33 schoolies
before I called a halt to the festivities.

Yesterday's news reported a fish kill down south of you, off the NC coast
I
believe. Pictures showed many, many dead stripers, mixed with some
smaller
fish, maybe croakers. Anything like that happening up your way?

No - but we're seeing a lot of "sick" fish - lesions and such.


We are seeing a large die off of freshwater drum (sheephead) here on the
western basin of Lake Erie. We first noticed it a couple of weeks ago
when we were out. I had first thought they were killed by fishermen (this
is the peak of the walleye season here) as the sheephead often take the
bait. Most fishermen kill them and throw them back for the gulls. The
number of dead fish was too large for that situation though.

http://www.ohiooutdoornews.com/artic...news/news1.txt

Sheephead are a useless fish and I am glad to see them go. The problem,
however, is the stench as they lie dead along the beaches. Lakefront
property owners are being told to bury them and cover them with lime.


Half the sources I've read say they're useless, and half say the taste is
totally bland, like haddock. As it turns out, you can use it as a substitute
for crab in crab cake recipes, and it's terrific.


The posting of the crab cake recipe, made with the sheephead, would
definitely be *on topic* and appreciated.

JoeSpareBedroom June 9th 06 08:05 PM

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"JohnH" wrote in message
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On Fri, 09 Jun 2006 11:07:56 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
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" JimH" jimhUNDERSCOREosudad@yahooDOTcom wrote in message
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"Shortwave Sportfishing" wrote in message
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On Thu, 08 Jun 2006 15:30:47 -0400, JohnH wrote:

On Thu, 08 Jun 2006 10:35:53 GMT, Shortwave Sportfishing
wrote:

Fishing report for yesterday.

Rain, moderate winds, had to run with radar - boated 33 schoolies
before I called a halt to the festivities.

Yesterday's news reported a fish kill down south of you, off the NC
coast
I
believe. Pictures showed many, many dead stripers, mixed with some
smaller
fish, maybe croakers. Anything like that happening up your way?

No - but we're seeing a lot of "sick" fish - lesions and such.

We are seeing a large die off of freshwater drum (sheephead) here on the
western basin of Lake Erie. We first noticed it a couple of weeks ago
when we were out. I had first thought they were killed by fishermen
(this
is the peak of the walleye season here) as the sheephead often take the
bait. Most fishermen kill them and throw them back for the gulls. The
number of dead fish was too large for that situation though.

http://www.ohiooutdoornews.com/artic...news/news1.txt

Sheephead are a useless fish and I am glad to see them go. The problem,
however, is the stench as they lie dead along the beaches. Lakefront
property owners are being told to bury them and cover them with lime.


Half the sources I've read say they're useless, and half say the taste is
totally bland, like haddock. As it turns out, you can use it as a
substitute
for crab in crab cake recipes, and it's terrific.


The posting of the crab cake recipe, made with the sheephead, would
definitely be *on topic* and appreciated.


I used one from McLane's Fish Encyclopedia. I'm sure that whatever recipe
you have would work just fine. But, here's the tricky part: If the recipe
says something like "2 cups chopped crab meat", you would change the words
"crab meat" to "whatever fish ya got around".



JimH June 9th 06 09:58 PM

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JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
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"Shortwave Sportfishing" wrote in message
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On Thu, 08 Jun 2006 15:30:47 -0400, JohnH wrote:

On Thu, 08 Jun 2006 10:35:53 GMT, Shortwave Sportfishing
wrote:

Fishing report for yesterday.

Rain, moderate winds, had to run with radar - boated 33 schoolies
before I called a halt to the festivities.

Yesterday's news reported a fish kill down south of you, off the NC coast
I
believe. Pictures showed many, many dead stripers, mixed with some
smaller
fish, maybe croakers. Anything like that happening up your way?

No - but we're seeing a lot of "sick" fish - lesions and such.


We are seeing a large die off of freshwater drum (sheephead) here on the
western basin of Lake Erie. We first noticed it a couple of weeks ago
when we were out. I had first thought they were killed by fishermen (this
is the peak of the walleye season here) as the sheephead often take the
bait. Most fishermen kill them and throw them back for the gulls. The
number of dead fish was too large for that situation though.

http://www.ohiooutdoornews.com/artic...news/news1.txt

Sheephead are a useless fish and I am glad to see them go. The problem,
however, is the stench as they lie dead along the beaches. Lakefront
property owners are being told to bury them and cover them with lime.


Half the sources I've read say they're useless, and half say the taste is
totally bland, like haddock. As it turns out, you can use it as a substitute
for crab in crab cake recipes, and it's terrific.


Are you sure you are talking about the same fish as I am? I have never
heard of anyone eating freshwater sheephead.


JoeSpareBedroom June 9th 06 10:13 PM

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"JimH" wrote in message
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JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
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On Thu, 08 Jun 2006 15:30:47 -0400, JohnH wrote:

On Thu, 08 Jun 2006 10:35:53 GMT, Shortwave Sportfishing
wrote:

Fishing report for yesterday.

Rain, moderate winds, had to run with radar - boated 33 schoolies
before I called a halt to the festivities.

Yesterday's news reported a fish kill down south of you, off the NC
coast
I
believe. Pictures showed many, many dead stripers, mixed with some
smaller
fish, maybe croakers. Anything like that happening up your way?

No - but we're seeing a lot of "sick" fish - lesions and such.

We are seeing a large die off of freshwater drum (sheephead) here on
the
western basin of Lake Erie. We first noticed it a couple of weeks ago
when we were out. I had first thought they were killed by fishermen
(this
is the peak of the walleye season here) as the sheephead often take the
bait. Most fishermen kill them and throw them back for the gulls. The
number of dead fish was too large for that situation though.

http://www.ohiooutdoornews.com/artic...news/news1.txt

Sheephead are a useless fish and I am glad to see them go. The
problem,
however, is the stench as they lie dead along the beaches. Lakefront
property owners are being told to bury them and cover them with lime.


Half the sources I've read say they're useless, and half say the taste is
totally bland, like haddock. As it turns out, you can use it as a
substitute
for crab in crab cake recipes, and it's terrific.


Are you sure you are talking about the same fish as I am? I have never
heard of anyone eating freshwater sheephead.


I'm your source. Baked with just a little butter, it's as boring as haddock.
Jazz it up, and it's fine.



JimH June 10th 06 12:22 AM

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JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
"JimH" wrote in message
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JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
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"Shortwave Sportfishing" wrote in message
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On Thu, 08 Jun 2006 15:30:47 -0400, JohnH wrote:

On Thu, 08 Jun 2006 10:35:53 GMT, Shortwave Sportfishing
wrote:

Fishing report for yesterday.

Rain, moderate winds, had to run with radar - boated 33 schoolies
before I called a halt to the festivities.

Yesterday's news reported a fish kill down south of you, off the NC
coast
I
believe. Pictures showed many, many dead stripers, mixed with some
smaller
fish, maybe croakers. Anything like that happening up your way?

No - but we're seeing a lot of "sick" fish - lesions and such.

We are seeing a large die off of freshwater drum (sheephead) here on
the
western basin of Lake Erie. We first noticed it a couple of weeks ago
when we were out. I had first thought they were killed by fishermen
(this
is the peak of the walleye season here) as the sheephead often take the
bait. Most fishermen kill them and throw them back for the gulls. The
number of dead fish was too large for that situation though.

http://www.ohiooutdoornews.com/artic...news/news1.txt

Sheephead are a useless fish and I am glad to see them go. The
problem,
however, is the stench as they lie dead along the beaches. Lakefront
property owners are being told to bury them and cover them with lime.


Half the sources I've read say they're useless, and half say the taste is
totally bland, like haddock. As it turns out, you can use it as a
substitute
for crab in crab cake recipes, and it's terrific.


Are you sure you are talking about the same fish as I am? I have never
heard of anyone eating freshwater sheephead.


I'm your source. Baked with just a little butter, it's as boring as haddock.
Jazz it up, and it's fine.


I will pass. I can send you all you need though...........you just pay
the shipping and handling charges. ;-)


Dan Krueger June 10th 06 01:38 AM

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JimH wrote:

JoeSpareBedroom wrote:

" JimH" jimhUNDERSCOREosudad@yahooDOTcom wrote in message
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"Shortwave Sportfishing" wrote in message
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On Thu, 08 Jun 2006 15:30:47 -0400, JohnH wrote:


On Thu, 08 Jun 2006 10:35:53 GMT, Shortwave Sportfishing
wrote:


Fishing report for yesterday.

Rain, moderate winds, had to run with radar - boated 33 schoolies
before I called a halt to the festivities.

Yesterday's news reported a fish kill down south of you, off the NC coast
I
believe. Pictures showed many, many dead stripers, mixed with some
smaller
fish, maybe croakers. Anything like that happening up your way?

No - but we're seeing a lot of "sick" fish - lesions and such.

We are seeing a large die off of freshwater drum (sheephead) here on the
western basin of Lake Erie. We first noticed it a couple of weeks ago
when we were out. I had first thought they were killed by fishermen (this
is the peak of the walleye season here) as the sheephead often take the
bait. Most fishermen kill them and throw them back for the gulls. The
number of dead fish was too large for that situation though.

http://www.ohiooutdoornews.com/artic...news/news1.txt

Sheephead are a useless fish and I am glad to see them go. The problem,
however, is the stench as they lie dead along the beaches. Lakefront
property owners are being told to bury them and cover them with lime.


Half the sources I've read say they're useless, and half say the taste is
totally bland, like haddock. As it turns out, you can use it as a substitute
for crab in crab cake recipes, and it's terrific.



Are you sure you are talking about the same fish as I am? I have never
heard of anyone eating freshwater sheephead.


Some people will eat roadkill.

JohnH June 10th 06 01:56 AM

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On Sat, 10 Jun 2006 00:38:27 GMT, Dan Krueger
wrote:

JimH wrote:

JoeSpareBedroom wrote:

" JimH" jimhUNDERSCOREosudad@yahooDOTcom wrote in message
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"Shortwave Sportfishing" wrote in message
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On Thu, 08 Jun 2006 15:30:47 -0400, JohnH wrote:


On Thu, 08 Jun 2006 10:35:53 GMT, Shortwave Sportfishing
wrote:


Fishing report for yesterday.

Rain, moderate winds, had to run with radar - boated 33 schoolies
before I called a halt to the festivities.

Yesterday's news reported a fish kill down south of you, off the NC coast
I
believe. Pictures showed many, many dead stripers, mixed with some
smaller
fish, maybe croakers. Anything like that happening up your way?

No - but we're seeing a lot of "sick" fish - lesions and such.

We are seeing a large die off of freshwater drum (sheephead) here on the
western basin of Lake Erie. We first noticed it a couple of weeks ago
when we were out. I had first thought they were killed by fishermen (this
is the peak of the walleye season here) as the sheephead often take the
bait. Most fishermen kill them and throw them back for the gulls. The
number of dead fish was too large for that situation though.

http://www.ohiooutdoornews.com/artic...news/news1.txt

Sheephead are a useless fish and I am glad to see them go. The problem,
however, is the stench as they lie dead along the beaches. Lakefront
property owners are being told to bury them and cover them with lime.


Half the sources I've read say they're useless, and half say the taste is
totally bland, like haddock. As it turns out, you can use it as a substitute
for crab in crab cake recipes, and it's terrific.



Are you sure you are talking about the same fish as I am? I have never
heard of anyone eating freshwater sheephead.


Some people will eat roadkill.



And why not??

Raccoon Kabobs
(Also known as "Ringtail Surprise")

Two pounds, reasonably fresh raccoon, cut into one-inch cubes; one-half cup
homemade French dressing; two green peppers, cut into squares; one large
onion, cut into one-inch pieces; one-third pound mushroom caps.

Place raccoon cubes in a ceramic bowl and pour dressing over cubes. Let
marinate two or more hours. Remove cubes, reserving marinade. Alternate
raccoon cubes with pepper squares, onion pieces and mushroom caps on
skewers. Brush all with reserved marinade and broil over hot coals until
done to desired degree. Turn frequently and baste with marinade as needed.

Serves six.

JohnH June 10th 06 01:58 AM

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On Fri, 09 Jun 2006 20:56:33 -0400, JohnH wrote:

On Sat, 10 Jun 2006 00:38:27 GMT, Dan Krueger
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JimH wrote:

JoeSpareBedroom wrote:

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"Shortwave Sportfishing" wrote in message
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On Thu, 08 Jun 2006 15:30:47 -0400, JohnH wrote:


On Thu, 08 Jun 2006 10:35:53 GMT, Shortwave Sportfishing
wrote:


Fishing report for yesterday.

Rain, moderate winds, had to run with radar - boated 33 schoolies
before I called a halt to the festivities.

Yesterday's news reported a fish kill down south of you, off the NC coast
I
believe. Pictures showed many, many dead stripers, mixed with some
smaller
fish, maybe croakers. Anything like that happening up your way?

No - but we're seeing a lot of "sick" fish - lesions and such.

We are seeing a large die off of freshwater drum (sheephead) here on the
western basin of Lake Erie. We first noticed it a couple of weeks ago
when we were out. I had first thought they were killed by fishermen (this
is the peak of the walleye season here) as the sheephead often take the
bait. Most fishermen kill them and throw them back for the gulls. The
number of dead fish was too large for that situation though.

http://www.ohiooutdoornews.com/artic...news/news1.txt

Sheephead are a useless fish and I am glad to see them go. The problem,
however, is the stench as they lie dead along the beaches. Lakefront
property owners are being told to bury them and cover them with lime.


Half the sources I've read say they're useless, and half say the taste is
totally bland, like haddock. As it turns out, you can use it as a substitute
for crab in crab cake recipes, and it's terrific.


Are you sure you are talking about the same fish as I am? I have never
heard of anyone eating freshwater sheephead.


Some people will eat roadkill.



And why not??

Raccoon Kabobs
(Also known as "Ringtail Surprise")

Two pounds, reasonably fresh raccoon, cut into one-inch cubes; one-half cup
homemade French dressing; two green peppers, cut into squares; one large
onion, cut into one-inch pieces; one-third pound mushroom caps.

Place raccoon cubes in a ceramic bowl and pour dressing over cubes. Let
marinate two or more hours. Remove cubes, reserving marinade. Alternate
raccoon cubes with pepper squares, onion pieces and mushroom caps on
skewers. Brush all with reserved marinade and broil over hot coals until
done to desired degree. Turn frequently and baste with marinade as needed.

Serves six.


Some very picky folks might want to skin the 'coon first, although it's not
necessary.

JimH June 10th 06 02:02 AM

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"Dan Krueger" wrote in message
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JimH wrote:

JoeSpareBedroom wrote:

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"Shortwave Sportfishing" wrote in message
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On Thu, 08 Jun 2006 15:30:47 -0400, JohnH wrote:


On Thu, 08 Jun 2006 10:35:53 GMT, Shortwave Sportfishing
wrote:


Fishing report for yesterday.

Rain, moderate winds, had to run with radar - boated 33 schoolies
before I called a halt to the festivities.

Yesterday's news reported a fish kill down south of you, off the NC
coast
I
believe. Pictures showed many, many dead stripers, mixed with some
smaller
fish, maybe croakers. Anything like that happening up your way?

No - but we're seeing a lot of "sick" fish - lesions and such.

We are seeing a large die off of freshwater drum (sheephead) here on the
western basin of Lake Erie. We first noticed it a couple of weeks ago
when we were out. I had first thought they were killed by fishermen
(this
is the peak of the walleye season here) as the sheephead often take the
bait. Most fishermen kill them and throw them back for the gulls. The
number of dead fish was too large for that situation though.

http://www.ohiooutdoornews.com/artic...news/news1.txt

Sheephead are a useless fish and I am glad to see them go. The problem,
however, is the stench as they lie dead along the beaches. Lakefront
property owners are being told to bury them and cover them with lime.


Half the sources I've read say they're useless, and half say the taste is
totally bland, like haddock. As it turns out, you can use it as a
substitute
for crab in crab cake recipes, and it's terrific.



Are you sure you are talking about the same fish as I am? I have never
heard of anyone eating freshwater sheephead.


Some people will eat roadkill.


Yep. And by doing so it puts them at about the same level as flies on the
food chain. ;-)



JoeSpareBedroom June 10th 06 02:07 AM

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On Thu, 08 Jun 2006 15:30:47 -0400, JohnH
wrote:

On Thu, 08 Jun 2006 10:35:53 GMT, Shortwave Sportfishing
wrote:

Fishing report for yesterday.

Rain, moderate winds, had to run with radar - boated 33 schoolies
before I called a halt to the festivities.

Yesterday's news reported a fish kill down south of you, off the NC
coast
I
believe. Pictures showed many, many dead stripers, mixed with some
smaller
fish, maybe croakers. Anything like that happening up your way?

No - but we're seeing a lot of "sick" fish - lesions and such.

We are seeing a large die off of freshwater drum (sheephead) here on
the
western basin of Lake Erie. We first noticed it a couple of weeks
ago
when we were out. I had first thought they were killed by fishermen
(this
is the peak of the walleye season here) as the sheephead often take
the
bait. Most fishermen kill them and throw them back for the gulls.
The
number of dead fish was too large for that situation though.

http://www.ohiooutdoornews.com/artic...news/news1.txt

Sheephead are a useless fish and I am glad to see them go. The
problem,
however, is the stench as they lie dead along the beaches.
Lakefront
property owners are being told to bury them and cover them with
lime.


Half the sources I've read say they're useless, and half say the taste
is
totally bland, like haddock. As it turns out, you can use it as a
substitute
for crab in crab cake recipes, and it's terrific.

Are you sure you are talking about the same fish as I am? I have never
heard of anyone eating freshwater sheephead.


I'm your source. Baked with just a little butter, it's as boring as
haddock.
Jazz it up, and it's fine.


I will pass. I can send you all you need though...........you just pay
the shipping and handling charges. ;-)


I'm curious as to why you feel this way about a fish you've never tasted.
Some people say "I've never tried that food, but I know I don't like it".
These people are usually among the stupidest. Is that you?



JoeSpareBedroom June 10th 06 02:08 AM

Yo - JohnH...
 
" JimH" jimhUNDERSCOREosudad@yahooDOTcom wrote in message
. ..

Some people will eat roadkill.


Yep. And by doing so it puts them at about the same level as flies on the
food chain. ;-)


What if you saw the raccoon killed by some other method, by someone who knew
how to handle fresh game? Would you eat it?



Bert Robbins June 10th 06 02:11 AM

Yo - JohnH...
 
JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
"JimH" wrote in message
oups.com...
JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
"JimH" wrote in message
oups.com...
JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
" JimH" jimhUNDERSCOREosudad@yahooDOTcom wrote in message
. ..
"Shortwave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 08 Jun 2006 15:30:47 -0400, JohnH
wrote:

On Thu, 08 Jun 2006 10:35:53 GMT, Shortwave Sportfishing
wrote:

Fishing report for yesterday.

Rain, moderate winds, had to run with radar - boated 33 schoolies
before I called a halt to the festivities.
Yesterday's news reported a fish kill down south of you, off the NC
coast
I
believe. Pictures showed many, many dead stripers, mixed with some
smaller
fish, maybe croakers. Anything like that happening up your way?
No - but we're seeing a lot of "sick" fish - lesions and such.
We are seeing a large die off of freshwater drum (sheephead) here on
the
western basin of Lake Erie. We first noticed it a couple of weeks
ago
when we were out. I had first thought they were killed by fishermen
(this
is the peak of the walleye season here) as the sheephead often take
the
bait. Most fishermen kill them and throw them back for the gulls.
The
number of dead fish was too large for that situation though.

http://www.ohiooutdoornews.com/artic...news/news1.txt

Sheephead are a useless fish and I am glad to see them go. The
problem,
however, is the stench as they lie dead along the beaches.
Lakefront
property owners are being told to bury them and cover them with
lime.

Half the sources I've read say they're useless, and half say the taste
is
totally bland, like haddock. As it turns out, you can use it as a
substitute
for crab in crab cake recipes, and it's terrific.
Are you sure you are talking about the same fish as I am? I have never
heard of anyone eating freshwater sheephead.

I'm your source. Baked with just a little butter, it's as boring as
haddock.
Jazz it up, and it's fine.

I will pass. I can send you all you need though...........you just pay
the shipping and handling charges. ;-)


I'm curious as to why you feel this way about a fish you've never tasted.
Some people say "I've never tried that food, but I know I don't like it".
These people are usually among the stupidest. Is that you?


Hey Doug, how are you doing this evening?

I see that you have changed your handle but not your condescending and
arrogant attitude.


JoeSpareBedroom June 10th 06 02:18 AM

Yo - JohnH...
 
"Bert Robbins" wrote in message
. ..

I'm curious as to why you feel this way about a fish you've never tasted.
Some people say "I've never tried that food, but I know I don't like it".
These people are usually among the stupidest. Is that you?


Hey Doug, how are you doing this evening?

I see that you have changed your handle but not your condescending and
arrogant attitude.


It only seems arrogant to those who aren't up to the challenge of adult
life.



JimH June 10th 06 01:21 PM

Yo - JohnH...
 

"JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message
...

"JimH" wrote in message
oups.com...

JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
"JimH" wrote in message
oups.com...

JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
" JimH" jimhUNDERSCOREosudad@yahooDOTcom wrote in message
. ..

"Shortwave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 08 Jun 2006 15:30:47 -0400, JohnH
wrote:

On Thu, 08 Jun 2006 10:35:53 GMT, Shortwave Sportfishing
wrote:

Fishing report for yesterday.

Rain, moderate winds, had to run with radar - boated 33 schoolies
before I called a halt to the festivities.

Yesterday's news reported a fish kill down south of you, off the
NC
coast
I
believe. Pictures showed many, many dead stripers, mixed with some
smaller
fish, maybe croakers. Anything like that happening up your way?

No - but we're seeing a lot of "sick" fish - lesions and such.

We are seeing a large die off of freshwater drum (sheephead) here
on
the
western basin of Lake Erie. We first noticed it a couple of weeks
ago
when we were out. I had first thought they were killed by
fishermen
(this
is the peak of the walleye season here) as the sheephead often take
the
bait. Most fishermen kill them and throw them back for the gulls.
The
number of dead fish was too large for that situation though.

http://www.ohiooutdoornews.com/artic...news/news1.txt

Sheephead are a useless fish and I am glad to see them go. The
problem,
however, is the stench as they lie dead along the beaches.
Lakefront
property owners are being told to bury them and cover them with
lime.


Half the sources I've read say they're useless, and half say the
taste is
totally bland, like haddock. As it turns out, you can use it as a
substitute
for crab in crab cake recipes, and it's terrific.

Are you sure you are talking about the same fish as I am? I have
never
heard of anyone eating freshwater sheephead.


I'm your source. Baked with just a little butter, it's as boring as
haddock.
Jazz it up, and it's fine.


I will pass. I can send you all you need though...........you just pay
the shipping and handling charges. ;-)


I'm curious as to why you feel this way about a fish you've never tasted.
Some people say "I've never tried that food, but I know I don't like it".
These people are usually among the stupidest. Is that you?


My daddy taught me well Doug. Apparently yours didn't.

What roadkill is on your menu for tonight? Perhaps possum or skunk?



Bert Robbins June 10th 06 01:23 PM

Yo - JohnH...
 
JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
"Bert Robbins" wrote in message
. ..

I'm curious as to why you feel this way about a fish you've never tasted.
Some people say "I've never tried that food, but I know I don't like it".
These people are usually among the stupidest. Is that you?

Hey Doug, how are you doing this evening?

I see that you have changed your handle but not your condescending and
arrogant attitude.


It only seems arrogant to those who aren't up to the challenge of adult
life.



However, you are still a condescending prig.

I really can understand why you change from your name, Doug Kanter, to
JoeSpareBedroom. If I were you I wouldn't want the world to know I was
an asshole either.



Bert Robbins June 10th 06 01:41 PM

Yo - JohnH...
 
Harry Krause wrote:
Bert Robbins wrote:
JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
"Bert Robbins" wrote in message
. ..

I'm curious as to why you feel this way about a fish you've never
tasted. Some people say "I've never tried that food, but I know I
don't like it". These people are usually among the stupidest. Is
that you?
Hey Doug, how are you doing this evening?

I see that you have changed your handle but not your condescending
and arrogant attitude.

It only seems arrogant to those who aren't up to the challenge of
adult life.


However, you are still a condescending prig.

I really can understand why you change from your name, Doug Kanter, to
JoeSpareBedroom. If I were you I wouldn't want the world to know I was
an asshole either.




On the other hand, there's no way Bert can conceal he is the Zarquawi of
Infected Rectal Openings.


Harry, why are you out running around in your boat today? All of us
would like to hear about your 4 hour 200 mile trips?

JohnH June 10th 06 09:59 PM

Yo - JohnH...
 
On Sat, 10 Jun 2006 08:23:54 -0400, Bert Robbins wrote:

JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
"Bert Robbins" wrote in message
. ..

I'm curious as to why you feel this way about a fish you've never tasted.
Some people say "I've never tried that food, but I know I don't like it".
These people are usually among the stupidest. Is that you?
Hey Doug, how are you doing this evening?

I see that you have changed your handle but not your condescending and
arrogant attitude.


It only seems arrogant to those who aren't up to the challenge of adult
life.



However, you are still a condescending prig.

I really can understand why you change from your name, Doug Kanter, to
JoeSpareBedroom. If I were you I wouldn't want the world to know I was
an asshole either.


Bert, for shame. You're starting to take on the name-calling attributes of
Harry and JimH. You're a better person than that!

I shot my best round of golf today. Shot a 102 at Forest Green down by
Quantico. Beautiful course, but not cheap. If it hadn't been for two par
5's that cost me 19 strokes, I might have broken 100. That's my goal for
this summer, along with a 45" rockfish, of course.

JoeSpareBedroom June 10th 06 10:01 PM

Yo - JohnH...
 

" JimH" jimhUNDERSCOREosudad@yahooDOTcom wrote in message
...

"JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message
...

"JimH" wrote in message
oups.com...

JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
"JimH" wrote in message
oups.com...

JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
" JimH" jimhUNDERSCOREosudad@yahooDOTcom wrote in message
. ..

"Shortwave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 08 Jun 2006 15:30:47 -0400, JohnH
wrote:

On Thu, 08 Jun 2006 10:35:53 GMT, Shortwave Sportfishing
wrote:

Fishing report for yesterday.

Rain, moderate winds, had to run with radar - boated 33
schoolies
before I called a halt to the festivities.

Yesterday's news reported a fish kill down south of you, off the
NC
coast
I
believe. Pictures showed many, many dead stripers, mixed with
some
smaller
fish, maybe croakers. Anything like that happening up your way?

No - but we're seeing a lot of "sick" fish - lesions and such.

We are seeing a large die off of freshwater drum (sheephead) here
on
the
western basin of Lake Erie. We first noticed it a couple of weeks
ago
when we were out. I had first thought they were killed by
fishermen
(this
is the peak of the walleye season here) as the sheephead often
take the
bait. Most fishermen kill them and throw them back for the gulls.
The
number of dead fish was too large for that situation though.

http://www.ohiooutdoornews.com/artic...news/news1.txt

Sheephead are a useless fish and I am glad to see them go. The
problem,
however, is the stench as they lie dead along the beaches.
Lakefront
property owners are being told to bury them and cover them with
lime.


Half the sources I've read say they're useless, and half say the
taste is
totally bland, like haddock. As it turns out, you can use it as a
substitute
for crab in crab cake recipes, and it's terrific.

Are you sure you are talking about the same fish as I am? I have
never
heard of anyone eating freshwater sheephead.


I'm your source. Baked with just a little butter, it's as boring as
haddock.
Jazz it up, and it's fine.

I will pass. I can send you all you need though...........you just pay
the shipping and handling charges. ;-)


I'm curious as to why you feel this way about a fish you've never tasted.
Some people say "I've never tried that food, but I know I don't like it".
These people are usually among the stupidest. Is that you?


My daddy taught me well Doug. Apparently yours didn't.

What roadkill is on your menu for tonight? Perhaps possum or skunk?


Roadkill?



Don White June 10th 06 10:36 PM

Yo - JohnH...
 
JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
" JimH" jimhUNDERSCOREosudad@yahooDOTcom wrote in message
...

"JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message
...

"JimH" wrote in message
egroups.com...

JoeSpareBedroom wrote:

"JimH" wrote in message
glegroups.com...

JoeSpareBedroom wrote:

" JimH" jimhUNDERSCOREosudad@yahooDOTcom wrote in message
news:tIWdnTUMtZLV4hXZnZ2dnUVZ_rCdnZ2d@comca st.com...

"Shortwave Sportfishing" wrote in message
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On Thu, 08 Jun 2006 15:30:47 -0400, JohnH
wrote:


On Thu, 08 Jun 2006 10:35:53 GMT, Shortwave Sportfishing
wrote:


Fishing report for yesterday.

Rain, moderate winds, had to run with radar - boated 33
schoolies
before I called a halt to the festivities.

Yesterday's news reported a fish kill down south of you, off the
NC
coast
I
believe. Pictures showed many, many dead stripers, mixed with
some
smaller
fish, maybe croakers. Anything like that happening up your way?

No - but we're seeing a lot of "sick" fish - lesions and such.

We are seeing a large die off of freshwater drum (sheephead) here
on
the
western basin of Lake Erie. We first noticed it a couple of weeks
ago
when we were out. I had first thought they were killed by
fishermen
(this
is the peak of the walleye season here) as the sheephead often
take the
bait. Most fishermen kill them and throw them back for the gulls.
The
number of dead fish was too large for that situation though.

http://www.ohiooutdoornews.com/artic...news/news1.txt

Sheephead are a useless fish and I am glad to see them go. The
problem,
however, is the stench as they lie dead along the beaches.
Lakefront
property owners are being told to bury them and cover them with
lime.


Half the sources I've read say they're useless, and half say the
taste is
totally bland, like haddock. As it turns out, you can use it as a
substitute
for crab in crab cake recipes, and it's terrific.

Are you sure you are talking about the same fish as I am? I have
never
heard of anyone eating freshwater sheephead.


I'm your source. Baked with just a little butter, it's as boring as
haddock.
Jazz it up, and it's fine.

I will pass. I can send you all you need though...........you just pay
the shipping and handling charges. ;-)


I'm curious as to why you feel this way about a fish you've never tasted.
Some people say "I've never tried that food, but I know I don't like it".
These people are usually among the stupidest. Is that you?


My daddy taught me well Doug. Apparently yours didn't.

What roadkill is on your menu for tonight? Perhaps possum or skunk?



Roadkill?


"Critter de Jour" by Larry, Daryl & the other brother Daryl.
re the old Bob Newhart Show.

JimH June 10th 06 10:40 PM

Yo - JohnH...
 

"JohnH" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 10 Jun 2006 08:23:54 -0400, Bert Robbins wrote:

JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
"Bert Robbins" wrote in message
. ..

I'm curious as to why you feel this way about a fish you've never
tasted.
Some people say "I've never tried that food, but I know I don't like
it".
These people are usually among the stupidest. Is that you?
Hey Doug, how are you doing this evening?

I see that you have changed your handle but not your condescending and
arrogant attitude.


It only seems arrogant to those who aren't up to the challenge of adult
life.



However, you are still a condescending prig.

I really can understand why you change from your name, Doug Kanter, to
JoeSpareBedroom. If I were you I wouldn't want the world to know I was
an asshole either.


Bert, for shame. You're starting to take on the name-calling attributes of
Harry and JimH. You're a better person than that!



For someone who claims to have me killfiled my name keeps coming up in just
about everyone of your posts.

You are indeed obsessed with me.

Speaking of name calling, I recall a full month of you calling Harry an
f*#ker.

Pot kettle black.

Have a nice evening John and have pleasant dreams of me tonight. ;-)



Dan Krueger June 11th 06 02:11 AM

Yo - JohnH...
 
Harry Krause wrote:
Bert Robbins wrote:

Harry Krause wrote:

Bert Robbins wrote:

JoeSpareBedroom wrote:

"Bert Robbins" wrote in message
. ..

I'm curious as to why you feel this way about a fish you've never
tasted. Some people say "I've never tried that food, but I know I
don't like it". These people are usually among the stupidest. Is
that you?

Hey Doug, how are you doing this evening?

I see that you have changed your handle but not your condescending
and arrogant attitude.

It only seems arrogant to those who aren't up to the challenge of
adult life.

However, you are still a condescending prig.

I really can understand why you change from your name, Doug Kanter,
to JoeSpareBedroom. If I were you I wouldn't want the world to know
I was an asshole either.



On the other hand, there's no way Bert can conceal he is the Zarquawi
of Infected Rectal Openings.



Harry, why are you out running around in your boat today? All of us
would like to hear about your 4 hour 200 mile trips?




There's a small craft advisory on at the moment, Bertie, with two to
fours out on the bay and 15 to 20 knot winds, with gusts up to 30 knots.
Right now, it's not too windy close to shore, but I can see whitecaps.
Weather predictions are better for tomorrow.

I'll be visiting Yo Ho later today to install some new gear and replace
a busted sidelight on the trailer.

Four hour, 200 mile trips, Bertie? Is that one of your masturbatory
fantasies?


So take out the big boat. Problem solved.

Dan

JohnH June 11th 06 02:21 AM

Yo - JohnH...
 
On Sun, 11 Jun 2006 01:11:25 GMT, Dan Krueger
wrote:

Harry Krause wrote:
Bert Robbins wrote:

Harry Krause wrote:

Bert Robbins wrote:

JoeSpareBedroom wrote:

"Bert Robbins" wrote in message
. ..

I'm curious as to why you feel this way about a fish you've never
tasted. Some people say "I've never tried that food, but I know I
don't like it". These people are usually among the stupidest. Is
that you?

Hey Doug, how are you doing this evening?

I see that you have changed your handle but not your condescending
and arrogant attitude.

It only seems arrogant to those who aren't up to the challenge of
adult life.

However, you are still a condescending prig.

I really can understand why you change from your name, Doug Kanter,
to JoeSpareBedroom. If I were you I wouldn't want the world to know
I was an asshole either.



On the other hand, there's no way Bert can conceal he is the Zarquawi
of Infected Rectal Openings.


Harry, why are you out running around in your boat today? All of us
would like to hear about your 4 hour 200 mile trips?




There's a small craft advisory on at the moment, Bertie, with two to
fours out on the bay and 15 to 20 knot winds, with gusts up to 30 knots.
Right now, it's not too windy close to shore, but I can see whitecaps.
Weather predictions are better for tomorrow.

I'll be visiting Yo Ho later today to install some new gear and replace
a busted sidelight on the trailer.

Four hour, 200 mile trips, Bertie? Is that one of your masturbatory
fantasies?


So take out the big boat. Problem solved.

Dan


Speaking of which, have you been out in the big boat yet, Harry? I would
think it could handle 2-3ft waves much better than Yo Ho. Except for the
wind, today would have been a gorgeous day on the bay.


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