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How do the heads work on smaller boats such as the Maxum 2100SC and other similar craft ? Do they flush overboard or must you remove the head and dispose of the waste manually ? Thanks, Duke |
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![]() "Duke" wrote in message news:8uEhg.5868$td6.4388@trnddc02... Hi all, How do the heads work on smaller boats such as the Maxum 2100SC and other similar craft ? Do they flush overboard or must you remove the head and dispose of the waste manually ? Thanks, Duke It will not flush overboard. Depending on the type of head (fixed or portable) it will either flush into a holding tank that must occasionally be pumped out or flush into a small holding tank at the bottom of the (portable) unit that has to be pumped out or manually dumped into an approved holding tank. |
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![]() " JimH" jimhUNDERSCOREosudad@yahooDOTcom wrote in message ... "Duke" wrote in message news:8uEhg.5868$td6.4388@trnddc02... Hi all, How do the heads work on smaller boats such as the Maxum 2100SC and other similar craft ? Do they flush overboard or must you remove the head and dispose of the waste manually ? Thanks, Duke It will not flush overboard. Depending on the type of head (fixed or portable) it will either flush into a holding tank that must occasionally be pumped out or flush into a small holding tank at the bottom of the (portable) unit that has to be pumped out or manually dumped into an approved holding tank. Hi Jim, Thanks. Being new to this arena, where would one find an approved holding tank ? Is this something that would only be available at a marina ? Would it be possible to just dump it into your homes waste system. I have a clean out trap at home with a 4inch pipe as the opening. Seems like I could just unsrew and dump into there. Or would that make no sense ? Thanks again, Duke |
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![]() "Duke" wrote in message news:YGEhg.5870$td6.4381@trnddc02... " JimH" jimhUNDERSCOREosudad@yahooDOTcom wrote in message ... "Duke" wrote in message news:8uEhg.5868$td6.4388@trnddc02... Hi all, How do the heads work on smaller boats such as the Maxum 2100SC and other similar craft ? Do they flush overboard or must you remove the head and dispose of the waste manually ? Thanks, Duke It will not flush overboard. Depending on the type of head (fixed or portable) it will either flush into a holding tank that must occasionally be pumped out or flush into a small holding tank at the bottom of the (portable) unit that has to be pumped out or manually dumped into an approved holding tank. Hi Jim, Thanks. Being new to this arena, where would one find an approved holding tank ? Is this something that would only be available at a marina ? Nomally, yes. I am assuming you have a porta-potty. Would it be possible to just dump it into your homes waste system. That what I have done with porta potties in the past. See my other note below. I have a clean out trap at home with a 4inch pipe as the opening. Seems like I could just unsrew and dump into there. Or would that make no sense ? Just flush it down the toilet. So that there is not a large accumulation of TP that could clog up the tank make sure to use Marine grade TP. Also make sure to mix in deoderizer into the flush water holding tank. Thanks again, Duke |
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Duke wrote:
Thanks. Being new to this arena, where would one find an approved holding tank ? Is this something that would only be available at a marina ? Would it be possible to just dump it into your homes waste system. I have a clean out trap at home with a 4inch pipe as the opening. Seems like I could just unsrew and dump into there. Or would that make no sense ? We used a porta-potty for years on a small cruising boat and poured it out into the toilet at home; we're hooked up to city sewer and it's no problem. Don't dump it into a system that flushes into a septic tank, though. Unless you add a bacterial treatment to the porta-potty tank, rather than sterilizing chemical mixed with perfume (which is what most people do because it's cheaper), the stuff in your porta-potty will kill your septic system DOA. Jim is right about using marine or camping toilet paper. It will break down much better. And make sure that it doesn't get caught in the flush valve, since that ruins the seal. Many people complain that the porta-potty always stinks, but this is because of a problem with the way they are using it. Ours (a Thetford 135) was a well made little unit and even after a couple of days use, gave off no odor at all. Hope this helps Doug King |
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![]() "DSK" wrote in message . .. Duke wrote: Thanks. Being new to this arena, where would one find an approved holding tank ? Is this something that would only be available at a marina ? Would it be possible to just dump it into your homes waste system. I have a clean out trap at home with a 4inch pipe as the opening. Seems like I could just unsrew and dump into there. Or would that make no sense ? We used a porta-potty for years on a small cruising boat and poured it out into the toilet at home; we're hooked up to city sewer and it's no problem. Don't dump it into a system that flushes into a septic tank, though. Unless you add a bacterial treatment to the porta-potty tank, rather than sterilizing chemical mixed with perfume (which is what most people do because it's cheaper), the stuff in your porta-potty will kill your septic system DOA. Jim is right about using marine or camping toilet paper. It will break down much better. And make sure that it doesn't get caught in the flush valve, since that ruins the seal. Many people complain that the porta-potty always stinks, but this is because of a problem with the way they are using it. Ours (a Thetford 135) was a well made little unit and even after a couple of days use, gave off no odor at all. Hope this helps Doug King Thank you both for the comments. I am hoping to buy a boat either at the end of this year or beginning of next. One of my wife's requirements is that there be a bathroom on board. ![]() Duke |
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![]() Duke wrote: " JimH" jimhUNDERSCOREosudad@yahooDOTcom wrote in message ... "Duke" wrote in message news:8uEhg.5868$td6.4388@trnddc02... Hi all, How do the heads work on smaller boats such as the Maxum 2100SC and other similar craft ? Do they flush overboard or must you remove the head and dispose of the waste manually ? Thanks, Duke It will not flush overboard. Depending on the type of head (fixed or portable) it will either flush into a holding tank that must occasionally be pumped out or flush into a small holding tank at the bottom of the (portable) unit that has to be pumped out or manually dumped into an approved holding tank. Hi Jim, Thanks. Being new to this arena, where would one find an approved holding tank ? Is this something that would only be available at a marina ? Would it be possible to just dump it into your homes waste system. I have a clean out trap at home with a 4inch pipe as the opening. Seems like I could just unsrew and dump into there. Or would that make no sense ? Thanks again, Duke Small boats seem to stop for fuel every couple of days- just enough time for the porta-pottie to become full or the small holding tank typically found on most small boats to reach capacity. Pump or dump at the fuel dock. No reason to haul a bucket of sh** all the way home in your car. Depending upon where you boat, you may indeed be able to pump overboard. The crux of the regulation is that you shall not dump *untreated* sewage into the water in any inland waters or les than three miles offshore. It's perfectly legal to dump sewage that has been treated to standards of fecal coliform count and doesn't contain "floating solids" less than three miles from shore and in inland waters, but the smaller boats typically do not have the appropriate systems that will treat the sewage to meet the standards. (When you pump out, the contents of your holding tank get treated, and then dumped right back into the same waters you've been boating in- same as with onboard treatment). If you boat in waters where the legality of discharge varies, you will need a "Y" valve to divert waste to your holding tank when you are in a no-discharge area. If you are boarded by the Coast Guard, they will want to see this Y valve secured in the "holding tank" position (a zip tie is OK) if you are less than three miles from shore or in inland waters. With the continuing increase in "no discharge" zones, (places where local regulations are stricter than federal regulations and it is illegal to discharge even properly treated waste), I would probably not bother with rigging for overboard discharge on a small boat. |
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On Wed, 07 Jun 2006 18:31:13 GMT, "Duke" wrote:
"DSK" wrote in message ... Duke wrote: Thanks. Being new to this arena, where would one find an approved holding tank ? Is this something that would only be available at a marina ? Would it be possible to just dump it into your homes waste system. I have a clean out trap at home with a 4inch pipe as the opening. Seems like I could just unsrew and dump into there. Or would that make no sense ? We used a porta-potty for years on a small cruising boat and poured it out into the toilet at home; we're hooked up to city sewer and it's no problem. Don't dump it into a system that flushes into a septic tank, though. Unless you add a bacterial treatment to the porta-potty tank, rather than sterilizing chemical mixed with perfume (which is what most people do because it's cheaper), the stuff in your porta-potty will kill your septic system DOA. Jim is right about using marine or camping toilet paper. It will break down much better. And make sure that it doesn't get caught in the flush valve, since that ruins the seal. Many people complain that the porta-potty always stinks, but this is because of a problem with the way they are using it. Ours (a Thetford 135) was a well made little unit and even after a couple of days use, gave off no odor at all. Hope this helps Doug King Thank you both for the comments. I am hoping to buy a boat either at the end of this year or beginning of next. One of my wife's requirements is that there be a bathroom on board. ![]() Duke Duke, my wife was the same way. Our 21'er came with a porta-potty in the cuddy cabin. When I said that whichever of us used it had to clean it, we came to a mutual agreement to remove it. In several years of boating on the Chesapeake, the lack of the porta-potty has never been a problem. -- John H ****************************************** ***** Have a Spectacular Day! ***** ****************************************** |
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Duke wrote:
Hi all, How do the heads work on smaller boats such as the Maxum 2100SC and other similar craft ? Do they flush overboard or must you remove the head and dispose of the waste manually ? Thanks, Duke My Sandpiper 565 mini-cruiser sailboat came with a 'MSD'. It has a tiny holding tank on the bottom that must be pumped out from the deck fitting. |
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![]() "Duke" wrote in message news:RXEhg.11340$9c7.6821@trnddc06... "DSK" wrote in message . .. Duke wrote: Thanks. Being new to this arena, where would one find an approved holding tank ? Is this something that would only be available at a marina ? Would it be possible to just dump it into your homes waste system. I have a clean out trap at home with a 4inch pipe as the opening. Seems like I could just unsrew and dump into there. Or would that make no sense ? We used a porta-potty for years on a small cruising boat and poured it out into the toilet at home; we're hooked up to city sewer and it's no problem. Don't dump it into a system that flushes into a septic tank, though. Unless you add a bacterial treatment to the porta-potty tank, rather than sterilizing chemical mixed with perfume (which is what most people do because it's cheaper), the stuff in your porta-potty will kill your septic system DOA. Jim is right about using marine or camping toilet paper. It will break down much better. And make sure that it doesn't get caught in the flush valve, since that ruins the seal. Many people complain that the porta-potty always stinks, but this is because of a problem with the way they are using it. Ours (a Thetford 135) was a well made little unit and even after a couple of days use, gave off no odor at all. Hope this helps Doug King Thank you both for the comments. I am hoping to buy a boat either at the end of this year or beginning of next. One of my wife's requirements is that there be a bathroom on board. ![]() Duke They are easy to maintain and clean. My wife insisted on one when we bought our 21 foot runabout. I would have bought one anyway. It is mainly used for #1, but for #2 in the event of an emergency. I cannot imagine having a boat without a head accommodation, even a modest one like a porta potty when taking your wife or daughter out on the boat. Some guys in this NG recently posted that they are silly and unsanitary. They make the women on their boat "hold it" when the urge comes while they travel 1/2 hour back to the dock for a bathroom. Some really thoughtful guys here. ;-) You are doing the right thing Duke. |
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