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Now what exactly is the quote where "he says right up front that his
motivation is political"?


Jim wrote:
"It's about politics. . ." Of course he was pointing out that those on
the OTHER SIDE were motivated by politics. Not Dr. Gray!


Sure. It's ALWAYS the libby-rulls who are motivated by
snotty partisanship. Noble and honest conservaties have only
the good of the country at heart!

Especially when they are carrying a grudge over lost grants
& denied research funding.


Let's look at some mo
Gray acknowledges that we've had some warming the past 30 years. "I
don't question that," he explains.

Too funny!

DSK

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Shortwave Sportfishing wrote:

On Mon, 05 Jun 2006 20:52:33 GMT, Sean Corbett
wrote:


You wrote:


Do you really think that Dr Gray's scientific credentials
matter one tiny bit when he says right up front that his
motivation is political?

Sean Corbett wrote:

He says nothing of the sort, imbecile.

Why are you calling me names when you're the one that can't
read?

Impressive way of carrying on a debate, yessiree. Almost as
impressive as when you demand that other people answer your
oversimplified & irrelevant rhetorical questions, then
refuse to answer any questions yourself. Good going, comrade!

http://www.fortwayne.com/mld/journal...g/14744238.htm
http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/htm...warming05.html

Now what exactly is the quote where "he says right up front that his
motivation is political"?


One learns not to argue with our great and good friend Doug King.

He is pure of heart and is way smarter than anyone else here.

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Shortwave Sportfishing wrote:
One learns not to argue with our great and good friend Doug King.

He is pure of heart and is way smarter than anyone else here.

Aww shucks folks (kicking toe modestly)...

But one thing that is true: I don't BS on and on with no
clue, for example, about sailboat rigging, or economics, or
mechanical systems. And I am don't confuse political dogma
with science.

OTOH there are a lot of people here who will gratefully take
serious advice, and then bite the hand that feeds it to
them... making poisonous statements about that persons
character, for example.

Regards
Doug King

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Calif Bill wrote:


So why post there? Won't be read.

Why not spray paint the political crap on a freeway overpass? It will
be *read* by tens of thousands of people, and wouldn't be any more
inappropriate than f*ing up a boating newsgroup.

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wrote in message
oups.com...

Calif Bill wrote:


So why post there? Won't be read.

Why not spray paint the political crap on a freeway overpass? It will
be *read* by tens of thousands of people, and wouldn't be any more
inappropriate than f*ing up a boating newsgroup.


Tom has a bad arm, can not spray paint overhead.

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Shortwave Sportfishing wrote:
.... DaVinci, Michaelangelo and FDR rolled into one -
reincarnated in one human being

I appreciate the compliment, but all those guys were raving
liberals... Leonardo painted pictures of naked men, fer gosh
sake... although FDR wasn't so bad, at least he managed to
start a war...

DSK

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DSK wrote:
Shortwave Sportfishing wrote:

.... DaVinci, Michaelangelo and FDR rolled into one -
reincarnated in one human being


I appreciate the compliment, but all those guys were raving liberals...
Leonardo painted pictures of naked men, fer gosh sake... although FDR
wasn't so bad, at least he managed to start a war...

DSK



More like finish it. Most of the world was two years into WW2 while the
US lounged around.

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although FDR wasn't so bad, at least he managed to start a war...


Don White wrote:
More like finish it. Most of the world was two years into WW2 while the
US lounged around.

But it was a *world* war until we joined in! Besides, FDR
pushed Japan into joining the Axis... a two-fer.

DSK

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Gene Kearns wrote:
On Mon, 05 Jun 2006 19:50:04 GMT, Sean Corbett penned the following
well considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats:


Dear, Dear, Sean..... I have been published in enough faculty
handbooks and websites to know that there is always at least one
loonie on every faculty. I fear your "Prof Bob Carter" is just such a
creature. Feel free to browse http://www.cru.uea.ac.uk/ and you will
notice that James Cook University and the regular faculty don't agree
with your boy's "findings." (Note that your "Prof. Carter" is an
adjunct and, therefore, not even a part of the regular faculty.)



Yeah, Prof. Bob stepped out of line, not marching to the beat of climate
change drummer. A move that is not going to endear you to your collegues.

I remember, I had a bit of a problem back in university because both my
thesis advisors believed in cold-fusion and I was sceptical. I also
disagreed with most of the faculty over the formation of the Sudbury
Basin (half of whom believed it was totally endogenic and half believed
it was exogenic, and everyone said I was just sitting on a fence, but
really, the only explaination for all the evidence is that a meteor
(exo) hit a volcano (endo)).

In the first case I was proved right. In the second case, only God can
ever know what really happened here 1.8 billion years ago.

I've seen science up close, it isn't always pretty. How to get that
grant proposal accepted? In my case, it was make the work appear
economically relevant - sure I'm studying carbonate inclusions in
precambrian fault rocks - but hey, don't you know, that's how to find
the gold. (although we knew there was no mineable gold at this location
despite its superficial resemblance to the second largest deposit in the
world - Timmons, ON)


Here's a quote from the first paragraph of the article. Are you claiming
this statement is false? If so, cite proof that it's false.



Ok, how about the opinion of TWO Professors at James Cook University:
http://www.rainforest-crc.jcu.edu.au...TFLclimate.pdf


Most relevant part of the article:

"Research needs

Future research must provide the
critical information and tools to
develop management plans
aimed at conserving forest
ecosystem processes and
biodiversity in the face of rapid,
unprecedented climate change."


IOW, Prof. Bob should shut TF up because he's upsetting the climate
change grant gravy-train.


D'OH! I promised myself I wasn't going to take Shortwave's bait on this
one .. but .... must ... hit ... send ...

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Most of the world was two years into WW2 while the
US lounged around.


Sean Corbett wrote:
The United States has this inconvenient thing called the Constitution which
required us to "lounge around".

Better look up the facts, Sean.

I'll give you two guesses which party was throwing
roadblocks in front of FDR helping other countries fight the
Nazis.

DSK