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Shortwave Sportfishing wrote:
http://www.denverpost.com/harsanyi/ci_3899807 Now that's what I call "fair & balanced." Find a scientist who thinks global warming is not happening, and quote him so extensively that he says right out in so many words that he is making these statements for political reasons, not out of scientific validity. Yeppur, if you want ideology to drive all decisions, and throw facts out the window, then this is the way to go. Meanwhile, let's take a survey of how many glaciers have grown over the past 50 years, vs how many have shrunk... or not... DSK |
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You wrote:
Meanwhile, let's take a survey of how many glaciers have grown over the past 50 years, vs how many have shrunk... or not... Sean Corbett wrote: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/opinion/m...06/04/09/do090 7.xml&sSheet=/news/2006/04/09/ixworld.html ERROR 404 FILE NOT FOUND OTOH it's pretty easy to find the same type of partisan-inspired screeching about increased snowfall & growing glaciers by a simple Google search. For example: http://www.iceagenow.com/Growing_Glaciers.htm "Think about that. Snow is accumulating over an area bigger than the continental United States. How in the world are sea levels supposed to rise, if so much moisture is getting locked up on land as ice? (They're not.)" http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/4693409.stm Problem: the referenced article is about a new Antarctic science station design and doesn't say a thing about increasing snow accumulation. DSK |
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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/opinion/m...06/04/09/do090
7.xml&Sheet=/news/2006/04/09/ixworld.html Gene Kearns wrote: Leave it to old Sean to de-politicize the matter by posting editorial content from a rag whose combination of personal links between the paper's editorial team and the leadership of the Conservative Party, in concert with the paper's influence over Conservative activists, results in the paper often being jokingly referred to as the Torygraph. Yep. That's scientific! The funny thing is that while a large body of scientific evidence does point to global warming, it's causes and effects are less clear. Meanwhile, I haven't seen a single person or entity who says either: 1- it's not happening 2- it might be happening, but if it is, man's activities have nothing to do with it that says so from scientific observation & reasoning, but always (so far) from political conviction. There may be one or two out there, but so far we haven't heard from them. What would a logical person conclude from this fact? DSK |
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On Mon, 05 Jun 2006 12:38:17 -0400, DSK wrote:
Shortwave Sportfishing wrote: http://www.denverpost.com/harsanyi/ci_3899807 Now that's what I call "fair & balanced." Find a scientist who thinks global warming is not happening, and quote him so extensively that he says right out in so many words that he is making these statements for political reasons, not out of scientific validity. Yeppur, if you want ideology to drive all decisions, and throw facts out the window, then this is the way to go. Meanwhile, let's take a survey of how many glaciers have grown over the past 50 years, vs how many have shrunk... or not... DSK 'a.politics' is empty. -- John H ****************************************** ***** Have a Spectacular Day! ***** ****************************************** |
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"JohnH" wrote in message ... On Mon, 05 Jun 2006 12:38:17 -0400, DSK wrote: Shortwave Sportfishing wrote: http://www.denverpost.com/harsanyi/ci_3899807 Now that's what I call "fair & balanced." Find a scientist who thinks global warming is not happening, and quote him so extensively that he says right out in so many words that he is making these statements for political reasons, not out of scientific validity. Yeppur, if you want ideology to drive all decisions, and throw facts out the window, then this is the way to go. Meanwhile, let's take a survey of how many glaciers have grown over the past 50 years, vs how many have shrunk... or not... DSK 'a.politics' is empty. -- John H ****************************************** ***** Have a Spectacular Day! ***** ****************************************** So why post there? Won't be read. |
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ERROR 404 FILE NOT FOUND
Sean Corbett wrote: Your inability to navigate the internet is not my problem. Yeah, we all know you're a nice guy. Try these. They're two edits of the same source material, but one has to wonder how countless media reports simply take the number this expert reports each year and adds in their own editorial commentary which TOTALLY CONTRADICTS the actual data Gray has dedicated his entire career to. http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/htm...warming05.html http://www.fortwayne.com/mld/journal...g/14744238.htm So, the dad-gum libby-rull fag-lovin' traitors in the U.S. gummint have cut off this scientists funding, and you say he's an unbiased source? Wait a minute, the Forces of Good(tm) have been in control of the U.S. government for at least the past 5 years... who exactly is this guy mad at? In any event, you're just helping to prove my earlier point: that the ones who say global warming ain't so are motivated by politics, not science (at least, all the ones presented so far). Sorry, I didn't mean to laugh out loud when you're trying to be serious. DSK |
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Sorry, I didn't mean to laugh out loud when you're trying to
be serious. Sean Corbett wrote: The track record of your posts indicates you've never attempted to be serious. Or that you're too mentally challenged TO be serious. Either way, thanks for admitting publicly that which has been known for some time. I'm serious about BOATS. Meanwhile, why should I take you seriously when you cannot prove the simplest and most basic of your statements? Meanwhile, I'd like to see your credentials which equal or exceed Dr. Gray's. Fill in this URL: http://_________________________ Do you really think that Dr Gray's scientific credentials matter one tiny bit when he says right up front that his motivation is political? Can you read your own references? DSK |
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Do you really think that Dr Gray's scientific credentials
matter one tiny bit when he says right up front that his motivation is political? Sean Corbett wrote: He says nothing of the sort, imbecile. Why are you calling me names when you're the one that can't read? Impressive way of carrying on a debate, yessiree. Almost as impressive as when you demand that other people answer your oversimplified & irrelevant rhetorical questions, then refuse to answer any questions yourself. Good going, comrade! DSK |
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On Mon, 05 Jun 2006 19:42:39 GMT, "Calif Bill"
wrote: "JohnH" wrote in message .. . On Mon, 05 Jun 2006 12:38:17 -0400, DSK wrote: Shortwave Sportfishing wrote: http://www.denverpost.com/harsanyi/ci_3899807 Now that's what I call "fair & balanced." Find a scientist who thinks global warming is not happening, and quote him so extensively that he says right out in so many words that he is making these statements for political reasons, not out of scientific validity. Yeppur, if you want ideology to drive all decisions, and throw facts out the window, then this is the way to go. Meanwhile, let's take a survey of how many glaciers have grown over the past 50 years, vs how many have shrunk... or not... DSK 'a.politics' is empty. -- John H ****************************************** ***** Have a Spectacular Day! ***** ****************************************** So why post there? Won't be read. Gosh...and I bet it wouldn't be followed by a lot of name-calling either! What a concept! -- John H ****************************************** ***** Have a Spectacular Day! ***** ****************************************** |
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Sean Corbett wrote:
You wrote: Do you really think that Dr Gray's scientific credentials matter one tiny bit when he says right up front that his motivation is political? Sean Corbett wrote: He says nothing of the sort, imbecile. Why are you calling me names when you're the one that can't read? Impressive way of carrying on a debate, yessiree. Almost as impressive as when you demand that other people answer your oversimplified & irrelevant rhetorical questions, then refuse to answer any questions yourself. Good going, comrade! http://www.fortwayne.com/mld/journal...g/14744238.htm http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/htm...warming05.html Now what exactly is the quote where "he says right up front that his motivation is political"? "It's about politics. . ." Of course he was pointing out that those on the OTHER SIDE were motivated by politics. Not Dr. Gray! Let's look at some mo Gray acknowledges that we've had some warming the past 30 years. "I don't question that," he explains. "And humans might have caused a very slight amount of this warming. Very slight. But this warming trend is not going to keep on going. My belief is that three, four years from now, . . ." Main article: Truthiness defined as the quality by which one purports to know something emotionally or instinctively, without regard to evidence or intellectual examination. |
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Now what exactly is the quote where "he says right up front that his
motivation is political"? Jim wrote: "It's about politics. . ." Of course he was pointing out that those on the OTHER SIDE were motivated by politics. Not Dr. Gray! Sure. It's ALWAYS the libby-rulls who are motivated by snotty partisanship. Noble and honest conservaties have only the good of the country at heart! Especially when they are carrying a grudge over lost grants & denied research funding. Let's look at some mo Gray acknowledges that we've had some warming the past 30 years. "I don't question that," he explains. Too funny! DSK |
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Shortwave Sportfishing wrote:
On Mon, 05 Jun 2006 20:52:33 GMT, Sean Corbett wrote: You wrote: Do you really think that Dr Gray's scientific credentials matter one tiny bit when he says right up front that his motivation is political? Sean Corbett wrote: He says nothing of the sort, imbecile. Why are you calling me names when you're the one that can't read? Impressive way of carrying on a debate, yessiree. Almost as impressive as when you demand that other people answer your oversimplified & irrelevant rhetorical questions, then refuse to answer any questions yourself. Good going, comrade! http://www.fortwayne.com/mld/journal...g/14744238.htm http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/htm...warming05.html Now what exactly is the quote where "he says right up front that his motivation is political"? One learns not to argue with our great and good friend Doug King. He is pure of heart and is way smarter than anyone else here. |
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Shortwave Sportfishing wrote:
One learns not to argue with our great and good friend Doug King. He is pure of heart and is way smarter than anyone else here. Aww shucks folks (kicking toe modestly)... But one thing that is true: I don't BS on and on with no clue, for example, about sailboat rigging, or economics, or mechanical systems. And I am don't confuse political dogma with science. OTOH there are a lot of people here who will gratefully take serious advice, and then bite the hand that feeds it to them... making poisonous statements about that persons character, for example. Regards Doug King |
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Calif Bill wrote: So why post there? Won't be read. Why not spray paint the political crap on a freeway overpass? It will be *read* by tens of thousands of people, and wouldn't be any more inappropriate than f*ing up a boating newsgroup. |
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wrote in message oups.com... Calif Bill wrote: So why post there? Won't be read. Why not spray paint the political crap on a freeway overpass? It will be *read* by tens of thousands of people, and wouldn't be any more inappropriate than f*ing up a boating newsgroup. Tom has a bad arm, can not spray paint overhead. |
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Shortwave Sportfishing wrote:
.... DaVinci, Michaelangelo and FDR rolled into one - reincarnated in one human being I appreciate the compliment, but all those guys were raving liberals... Leonardo painted pictures of naked men, fer gosh sake... although FDR wasn't so bad, at least he managed to start a war... DSK |
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DSK wrote:
Shortwave Sportfishing wrote: .... DaVinci, Michaelangelo and FDR rolled into one - reincarnated in one human being I appreciate the compliment, but all those guys were raving liberals... Leonardo painted pictures of naked men, fer gosh sake... although FDR wasn't so bad, at least he managed to start a war... DSK More like finish it. Most of the world was two years into WW2 while the US lounged around. |
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although FDR wasn't so bad, at least he managed to start a war...
Don White wrote: More like finish it. Most of the world was two years into WW2 while the US lounged around. But it was a *world* war until we joined in! Besides, FDR pushed Japan into joining the Axis... a two-fer. DSK |
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Gene Kearns wrote:
On Mon, 05 Jun 2006 19:50:04 GMT, Sean Corbett penned the following well considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats: Dear, Dear, Sean..... I have been published in enough faculty handbooks and websites to know that there is always at least one loonie on every faculty. I fear your "Prof Bob Carter" is just such a creature. Feel free to browse http://www.cru.uea.ac.uk/ and you will notice that James Cook University and the regular faculty don't agree with your boy's "findings." (Note that your "Prof. Carter" is an adjunct and, therefore, not even a part of the regular faculty.) Yeah, Prof. Bob stepped out of line, not marching to the beat of climate change drummer. A move that is not going to endear you to your collegues. I remember, I had a bit of a problem back in university because both my thesis advisors believed in cold-fusion and I was sceptical. I also disagreed with most of the faculty over the formation of the Sudbury Basin (half of whom believed it was totally endogenic and half believed it was exogenic, and everyone said I was just sitting on a fence, but really, the only explaination for all the evidence is that a meteor (exo) hit a volcano (endo)). In the first case I was proved right. In the second case, only God can ever know what really happened here 1.8 billion years ago. I've seen science up close, it isn't always pretty. How to get that grant proposal accepted? In my case, it was make the work appear economically relevant - sure I'm studying carbonate inclusions in precambrian fault rocks - but hey, don't you know, that's how to find the gold. (although we knew there was no mineable gold at this location despite its superficial resemblance to the second largest deposit in the world - Timmons, ON) Here's a quote from the first paragraph of the article. Are you claiming this statement is false? If so, cite proof that it's false. Ok, how about the opinion of TWO Professors at James Cook University: http://www.rainforest-crc.jcu.edu.au...TFLclimate.pdf Most relevant part of the article: "Research needs Future research must provide the critical information and tools to develop management plans aimed at conserving forest ecosystem processes and biodiversity in the face of rapid, unprecedented climate change." IOW, Prof. Bob should shut TF up because he's upsetting the climate change grant gravy-train. D'OH! I promised myself I wasn't going to take Shortwave's bait on this one .. but .... must ... hit ... send ... |
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Most of the world was two years into WW2 while the
US lounged around. Sean Corbett wrote: The United States has this inconvenient thing called the Constitution which required us to "lounge around". Better look up the facts, Sean. I'll give you two guesses which party was throwing roadblocks in front of FDR helping other countries fight the Nazis. DSK |
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I'll give you two guesses which party was throwing
roadblocks in front of FDR helping other countries fight the Nazis. Sean Corbett wrote: Parties aren't in the Constitution. The "common Defence" clause is. Considering that the Axis directly attacked a U.S. ship (look it up), how is using the Constitution to block help to the Allies considered providing for "common defense?" Any lame excuse is good enough to stand up for your buddies, right? Just like any trumped-up pretext is good enough to attack your political foes. DSK |
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Any lame excuse is good enough to stand up for your buddies,
right? Just like any trumped-up pretext is good enough to attack your political foes. Sean Corbett wrote: You mean foes like Lyndon "I'll give you your damn war" Johnson? Or Franklin "I know we're going to get attacked and I'm going to let it happen because war is the only way to disguise the fact that 7 years into the New Deal unemployment is still 15%" Roosevelt? My goodness Sean, if you don't like that corner, why did you paint yourself into it? BTW you shouldn't make up bogus statistics, it is far too easy to look up the facts. DSK |
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DSK wrote: Any lame excuse is good enough to stand up for your buddies, right? Just like any trumped-up pretext is good enough to attack your political foes. Sean Corbett wrote: You mean foes like Lyndon "I'll give you your damn war" Johnson? Or Franklin "I know we're going to get attacked and I'm going to let it happen because war is the only way to disguise the fact that 7 years into the New Deal unemployment is still 15%" Roosevelt? My goodness Sean, if you don't like that corner, why did you paint yourself into it? BTW you shouldn't make up bogus statistics, it is far too easy to look up the facts. DSK It doesn't matter. Sean must goose-step to the party. Rush is telling him to. |
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BTW you shouldn't make up bogus statistics, it is far too
easy to look up the facts. Sean Corbett wrote: They're not bogus, but you'd never know because you've never posted a fact that you've looked up. My my... guess it depends on what you consider "fact." In any event, I have certainly never posted the sort of ideologically-derived fantasy you specialize in. Were you implying that "the new deal was a failure" (common catchphrase among fascist pinheads) by saying that unemployment was 15% at the beginning of WW2 (from the U.S. perspective)? If so, that is bogus. Unemployment went down rather dramatically in the 1930s. It was still a very high number compared to what we're comfortable with today... that's why it was the Great Depression (duh). That it went down even more dramatically in 1941 just shows that FDR was on the right track (at least, from the standpoint of the economic good of the country as well as providing for common defense) to support the Allies, since the Republican efforts to profit from doing business with the Axis didn't reduce unemployment hardly at all. DSK |
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Gene Kearns wrote:
On Tue, 06 Jun 2006 11:27:33 -0400, Black Dog wrote: I remember, I had a bit of a problem back in university because both my thesis advisors believed in cold-fusion and I was sceptical. Then you support my thesis about a screwball or two on every faculty! Of course there is.(but many more in arts depts than sciences :-) You're implying my profs were it. No darlin' - I was the screwball, the sceptic, the "different" thinking one (my differences usually explained away by my gender or background in the arts). They were the guys who taught me how to tow a party line.(although I'd never pass an exam in that, obviously) I looked at the list of scientists who sent the "reconsider kyoto" message to Steven Harper a couple of weeks back. One prof from my old uni is there (not one my "wacky" advisors either), and I assure you the man is no screwball, nor does he work for Exxon, nor would he support a view for the grant money. He is seriously brilliant but dour in a dutch sort of way. He is highly regarded by the other faculty, publishes regularly and has honours coming out the yinyang. Most students don't like him because he's "too hard" (people who take paleo because they "like dinosaurs" don't make it through the first class) OTOH the prof at the uni who is coining it hand over fist leading the Centre for Climate Change "Research" is a local media personality and political player who AKAIK hasn't done actual serious research since he was a student himself. And that is just one tiny example at one tiny university. And that is all the goddammed bait I'm swallowing today. |
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On Tue, 06 Jun 2006 15:41:05 GMT, Sean Corbett wrote: You wrote: Most of the world was two years into WW2 while the US lounged around. The United States has this inconvenient thing called the Constitution which required us to "lounge around". Shortwave Sportfishing wrote: King lands a quick right, but Corbett returns with a stiff jab, followed by a left upper cut. So, you genuinely think that "providing for the common defense" means to have money-grubbing contracts with the Nazis, while they are sinking our ships, and blocking FDR from actually making plans to defend the U.S. from the Axis? BTW my earlier post contained a typo... should have read "it was NOT a *world* war until we joined in." DSK |
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"Shortwave Sportfishing" wrote in message ... On Tue, 06 Jun 2006 15:27:39 -0400, DSK wrote: BTW you shouldn't make up bogus statistics, it is far too easy to look up the facts. Sean Corbett wrote: They're not bogus, but you'd never know because you've never posted a fact that you've looked up. My my... guess it depends on what you consider "fact." In any event, I have certainly never posted the sort of ideologically-derived fantasy you specialize in. King rallies for a huge right. Were you implying that "the new deal was a failure" (common catchphrase among fascist pinheads) by saying that unemployment was 15% at the beginning of WW2 (from the U.S. perspective)? Followed swiftly by a uppercut. If so, that is bogus. Unemployment went down rather dramatically in the 1930s. It was still a very high number compared to what we're comfortable with today... that's why it was the Great Depression (duh). A right and a left. That it went down even more dramatically in 1941 just shows that FDR was on the right track (at least, from the standpoint of the economic good of the country as well as providing for common defense) to support the Allies, since the Republican efforts to profit from doing business with the Axis didn't reduce unemployment hardly at all. Oh - a low blow!!! Corbett is staggering, but still on his feet!! DING DING DING - and that's the end of Round Two!! You could have been Howard Cosell's replacement! Good job! |
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any event, I have certainly never posted the sort of ideologically-derived fantasy you specialize in. Sean Corbett wrote: That's ALL you've EVER posted. In other words, reality is knocking, but you won't let it in? Were you implying that "the new deal was a failure" No implication necessary. Meaning what? Why not say it right out loud? by saying that unemployment was 15% at the beginning of WW2 (from the U.S. perspective)? Sean Corbett wrote: You claimed it wasn't. Wrong. ...Now you're saying it was. Either way you've lied. Again. Quote me & prove it. DSK |
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On Tue, 06 Jun 2006 20:37:15 GMT, Sean Corbett
wrote: You wrote: BTW you shouldn't make up bogus statistics, it is far too easy to look up the facts. Sean Corbett wrote: They're not bogus, but you'd never know because you've never posted a fact that you've looked up. My my... guess it depends on what you consider "fact." Yes it does, which is why that's what I deal in, unlike you. In any event, I have certainly never posted the sort of ideologically-derived fantasy you specialize in. That's ALL you've EVER posted. Were you implying that "the new deal was a failure" No implication necessary. by saying that unemployment was 15% at the beginning of WW2 (from the U.S. perspective)? You claimed it wasn't. Now you're saying it was. Either way you've lied. Again. Sean, are you a Bush-Cheney supporter? If so, please take your political crap elsewhere. If not, please take it elsewhere anyway! a.politics would be good. Maybe you could get a bunch of name-callers to follow you. -- John H ****************************************** ***** Have a Spectacular Day! ***** ****************************************** |
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On Tue, 06 Jun 2006 21:01:36 GMT, Mys Terry
wrote: On Tue, 06 Jun 2006 16:58:29 -0400, Harry Krause wrote: Sean Corbett wrote: ...Now you're saying it was. Either way you've lied. Again. Seanboy has all the polished debating skills of a third-grade dropout who inherited a .22 rifle, a toothless wife, and a trailer next to a national forest where he can hunt squirrels. Then it's a pretty fair match up with Doug. T'would be nice if the whole crew of y'all would take it to a.politics or one of the other political flame-fests which abound elsewhere. -- John H ****************************************** ***** Have a Spectacular Day! ***** ****************************************** |
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"JohnH" wrote in message ... On Tue, 06 Jun 2006 20:37:15 GMT, Sean Corbett wrote: You wrote: BTW you shouldn't make up bogus statistics, it is far too easy to look up the facts. Sean Corbett wrote: They're not bogus, but you'd never know because you've never posted a fact that you've looked up. My my... guess it depends on what you consider "fact." Yes it does, which is why that's what I deal in, unlike you. In any event, I have certainly never posted the sort of ideologically-derived fantasy you specialize in. That's ALL you've EVER posted. Were you implying that "the new deal was a failure" No implication necessary. by saying that unemployment was 15% at the beginning of WW2 (from the U.S. perspective)? You claimed it wasn't. Now you're saying it was. Either way you've lied. Again. Sean, are you a Bush-Cheney supporter? If so, please take your political crap elsewhere. If not, please take it elsewhere anyway! a.politics would be good. Maybe you could get a bunch of name-callers to follow you. -- John H ****************************************** ***** Have a Spectacular Day! ***** ****************************************** So are you going with Sean? |
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JohnH wrote:
T'would be nice if the whole crew of y'all would take it to a.politics or one of the other political flame-fests which abound elsewhere. -- John H Might be time to round up a posse and toss the whole gang into the lockup. Coolin' their heels for a spell should teach 'em! |
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"Harry Krause" wrote in message ... JohnH wrote: On Tue, 06 Jun 2006 21:01:36 GMT, Mys Terry wrote: On Tue, 06 Jun 2006 16:58:29 -0400, Harry Krause wrote: Sean Corbett wrote: ...Now you're saying it was. Either way you've lied. Again. Seanboy has all the polished debating skills of a third-grade dropout who inherited a .22 rifle, a toothless wife, and a trailer next to a national forest where he can hunt squirrels. Then it's a pretty fair match up with Doug. T'would be nice if the whole crew of y'all would take it to a.politics or one of the other political flame-fests which abound elsewhere. -- John H We're all enthralled by your many boating posts here. Which have been zero...nada.........it seems he is more interested in posting Martha Stewart recipes here. ;-) |
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"Harry Krause" wrote in message . .. JimH wrote: "Harry Krause" wrote in message ... JohnH wrote: On Tue, 06 Jun 2006 21:01:36 GMT, Mys Terry wrote: On Tue, 06 Jun 2006 16:58:29 -0400, Harry Krause wrote: Sean Corbett wrote: ...Now you're saying it was. Either way you've lied. Again. Seanboy has all the polished debating skills of a third-grade dropout who inherited a .22 rifle, a toothless wife, and a trailer next to a national forest where he can hunt squirrels. Then it's a pretty fair match up with Doug. T'would be nice if the whole crew of y'all would take it to a.politics or one of the other political flame-fests which abound elsewhere. -- John H We're all enthralled by your many boating posts here. Which have been zero...nada.........it seems he is more interested in posting Martha Stewart recipes here. ;-) Martha Stewart doesn't burn meat on the grill. :-) I wonder if she still has that Hinckley Picnic boat. She christened it prior to initial splash with all the formalities one would expect from old Martha. It did look like a sweet looking boat. ;-) |
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"Mys Terry" wrote in message ... On Tue, 06 Jun 2006 16:58:29 -0400, Harry Krause wrote: Sean Corbett wrote: ...Now you're saying it was. Either way you've lied. Again. Seanboy has all the polished debating skills of a third-grade dropout who inherited a .22 rifle, a toothless wife, and a trailer next to a national forest where he can hunt squirrels. Then it's a pretty fair match up with Doug. But still light years ahead of harry |
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JohnH wrote:
Sean, are you a Bush-Cheney supporter? If so, please take your political crap elsewhere. If not, please take it elsewhere anyway! Well, there it is. I'll stop now, I was just waiting for one of OT-police to holler at one of their own. DSK |
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