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" JimH" jimh UNDERSCORE osudad@yahooDOTcom wrote in message ... "basskisser" wrote in message ups.com... Sean Corbett wrote: You wrote: EVERYONE involved with the Internet agrees that Gore worked very closely to promote the idea of converting the military/academic Network over to the consumer Internet we see today. He cut red tape so this could be done, and made this conversion a priority. Gore saw this as a benefit to the taxpayers and a feather in his political cap. And Gore took piles and piles and piles of money from the telecomm industy, often the same week as big telecomm votes. That's an actual AND inconvenient truth. Hold on!!!! Just a few posts ago, you chastised me for not following the TITLE OF THIS THREAD.......what does your above diatribe have to do with this thread? Will you dummies STFU already. Who really cares about what Gore may or may not have said. Keeerist! You care, when it's convenient. |
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"Gene Kearns" wrote in message ... On Fri, 2 Jun 2006 12:21:39 -0400, " JimH" jimh UNDERSCORE osudad@yahooDOTcom wrote: Will you dummies STFU already. Who really cares about what Gore may or may not have said. You have to admit, though, that this Sean Corbett has been the most productive squeaky-toy since Captain Tostito was lost overboard..... Yep, a perfect playmate for Bassy too. ;-) |
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JimH wrote: "basskisser" wrote in message ups.com... Sean Corbett wrote: You wrote: EVERYONE involved with the Internet agrees that Gore worked very closely to promote the idea of converting the military/academic Network over to the consumer Internet we see today. He cut red tape so this could be done, and made this conversion a priority. Gore saw this as a benefit to the taxpayers and a feather in his political cap. And Gore took piles and piles and piles of money from the telecomm industy, often the same week as big telecomm votes. That's an actual AND inconvenient truth. Hold on!!!! Just a few posts ago, you chastised me for not following the TITLE OF THIS THREAD.......what does your above diatribe have to do with this thread? Will you dummies STFU already. Who really cares about what Gore may or may not have said. Keeerist! I see you are starting your flame wars again with the petty and childish name calling. You should be ashamed of yourself for even suggesting that soem STFU, what with all of the nastiness you've been throwing around here. As is typical of you, you do that for awhile, then tell everyone else how bad they are for doing the same as you! |
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JimH wrote: "Gene Kearns" wrote in message ... On Fri, 2 Jun 2006 12:21:39 -0400, " JimH" jimh UNDERSCORE osudad@yahooDOTcom wrote: Will you dummies STFU already. Who really cares about what Gore may or may not have said. You have to admit, though, that this Sean Corbett has been the most productive squeaky-toy since Captain Tostito was lost overboard..... Yep, a perfect playmate for Bassy too. ;-) Jim, you can quit your **** with me right now, understand? You should be the last person on earth to talk about what others do here. You've been flaming, being nasty, mean spirited, argumentative to the point where NO ONE here wants a damned thing to do with you. |
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"basskisser" wrote in message oups.com... JimH wrote: "Gene Kearns" wrote in message ... On Fri, 2 Jun 2006 12:21:39 -0400, " JimH" jimh UNDERSCORE osudad@yahooDOTcom wrote: Will you dummies STFU already. Who really cares about what Gore may or may not have said. You have to admit, though, that this Sean Corbett has been the most productive squeaky-toy since Captain Tostito was lost overboard..... Yep, a perfect playmate for Bassy too. ;-) Jim, you can quit your **** with me right now, understand? You should be the last person on earth to talk about what others do here. You've been flaming, being nasty, mean spirited, argumentative to the point where NO ONE here wants a damned thing to do with you. Drop it Bassy. And stop this stupid exchange with Sean. Both of you are looking like idiots. |
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Captain Tostito lives on. Look over there in a few minutes.
" JimH" jimh UNDERSCORE osudad@yahooDOTcom wrote in message ... "Gene Kearns" wrote in message ... On Fri, 2 Jun 2006 12:21:39 -0400, " JimH" jimh UNDERSCORE osudad@yahooDOTcom wrote: Will you dummies STFU already. Who really cares about what Gore may or may not have said. You have to admit, though, that this Sean Corbett has been the most productive squeaky-toy since Captain Tostito was lost overboard..... Yep, a perfect playmate for Bassy too. ;-) |
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JimH wrote:
"basskisser" wrote in message oups.com... JimH wrote: "Gene Kearns" wrote in message ... On Fri, 2 Jun 2006 12:21:39 -0400, " JimH" jimh UNDERSCORE osudad@yahooDOTcom wrote: Will you dummies STFU already. Who really cares about what Gore may or may not have said. You have to admit, though, that this Sean Corbett has been the most productive squeaky-toy since Captain Tostito was lost overboard..... Yep, a perfect playmate for Bassy too. ;-) Jim, you can quit your **** with me right now, understand? You should be the last person on earth to talk about what others do here. You've been flaming, being nasty, mean spirited, argumentative to the point where NO ONE here wants a damned thing to do with you. Drop it Bassy. And stop this stupid exchange with Sean. Both of you are looking like idiots. It hurts when you see yourself in others, doesn't it? -- Reggie That's my story and I am sticking to it. |
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On Fri, 02 Jun 2006 14:33:37 -0400, "Reginald P. Smithers"
wrote: JimH wrote: "basskisser" wrote in message oups.com... JimH wrote: "Gene Kearns" wrote in message ... On Fri, 2 Jun 2006 12:21:39 -0400, " JimH" jimh UNDERSCORE osudad@yahooDOTcom wrote: Will you dummies STFU already. Who really cares about what Gore may or may not have said. You have to admit, though, that this Sean Corbett has been the most productive squeaky-toy since Captain Tostito was lost overboard..... Yep, a perfect playmate for Bassy too. ;-) Jim, you can quit your **** with me right now, understand? You should be the last person on earth to talk about what others do here. You've been flaming, being nasty, mean spirited, argumentative to the point where NO ONE here wants a damned thing to do with you. Drop it Bassy. And stop this stupid exchange with Sean. Both of you are looking like idiots. It hurts when you see yourself in others, doesn't it? Parallels? -- John H ****************************************** ***** Have a Spectacular Day! ***** ****************************************** |
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JimH wrote: "basskisser" wrote in message oups.com... JimH wrote: "Gene Kearns" wrote in message ... On Fri, 2 Jun 2006 12:21:39 -0400, " JimH" jimh UNDERSCORE osudad@yahooDOTcom wrote: Will you dummies STFU already. Who really cares about what Gore may or may not have said. You have to admit, though, that this Sean Corbett has been the most productive squeaky-toy since Captain Tostito was lost overboard..... Yep, a perfect playmate for Bassy too. ;-) Jim, you can quit your **** with me right now, understand? You should be the last person on earth to talk about what others do here. You've been flaming, being nasty, mean spirited, argumentative to the point where NO ONE here wants a damned thing to do with you. Drop it Bassy. And stop this stupid exchange with Sean. Both of you are looking like idiots. Giddyup, Sheriff Jim! Funny, you ****ed off every single person in rec.boats, then come back and think you run the place.....wasn't it you that kept whining about netcopping, Sheriff Jim? |
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As if you had any credability, eh "Guzzi-boy"?
But, your credibility, if you had any, is certainly getting a workout. Keep up the good work! Oh I should watch what I as and to whom I say it. After all,you're king of the dojo.. woooooooooo! basskisser wrote: wrote: Why don't you hold your breath? it would more entertaining watching you turn blue... Gee, terrific job proving your point......not! But, your credibility, if you had any, is certainly getting a workout. Keep up the good work! |
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basskisser wrote: wrote: As if you had any credability, eh "Guzzi-boy"? But, your credibility, if you had any, is certainly getting a workout. Keep up the good work! Oh I should watch what I as and to whom I say it. After all,you're king of the dojo.. woooooooooo! Sorry, top posting fools get NO credibility. As if you were to judge credibility. |
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Tim wrote: basskisser wrote: wrote: As if you had any credability, eh "Guzzi-boy"? But, your credibility, if you had any, is certainly getting a workout. Keep up the good work! Oh I should watch what I as and to whom I say it. After all,you're king of the dojo.. woooooooooo! Sorry, top posting fools get NO credibility. As if you were to judge credibility. As if...... And I DID judge your credibility just fine, thank you! |
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As due noted, I have fine credibility,
now...what's your excuse? basskisser wrote: Tim wrote: basskisser wrote: wrote: As if you had any credability, eh "Guzzi-boy"? But, your credibility, if you had any, is certainly getting a workout. Keep up the good work! Oh I should watch what I as and to whom I say it. After all,you're king of the dojo.. woooooooooo! Sorry, top posting fools get NO credibility. As if you were to judge credibility. As if...... And I DID judge your credibility just fine, thank you! |
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Tim wrote: As due noted, I have fine credibility, now...what's your excuse? Please learn to read English. I said that I judged your credibility just fine, not that I judged your credibility to BE fine. If you need me to clarify further, I will......wonder why I think you'll need that...... |
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basskisser wrote: Tim wrote: As due noted, I have fine credibility, now...what's your excuse? If you need me to clarify further, I will......wonder why I think you'll need that...... I don't need you at all |
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Tim wrote: basskisser wrote: Tim wrote: As due noted, I have fine credibility, now...what's your excuse? If you need me to clarify further, I will......wonder why I think you'll need that...... I don't need you at all Well, apparently you do. You completely misunderstood a statement I made that was very clear. |
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"basskisser" wrote in message ups.com... Sean Corbett wrote: You wrote: "basskisser" wrote in message oups.com... I guess the confusion comes from the fact that left-leaning persons can't comprehend "initiative". But the real question is what, if anything, did Gore actually do to create the modern Internet? According to Vincent Cerf, a senior vice president with MCI Worldcom who's been called the Father of the Internet, "The Internet would not be where it is in the United States without the strong support given to it and related research areas by the Vice President in his current role and in his earlier role as Senator." The inventor of the Mosaic Browser, Marc Andreesen, credits Gore with making his work possible. He received a federal grant through Gore's High Performance Computing Act. The University of Pennsylvania's Dave Ferber says that without Gore the Internet "would not be where it is today." Joseph E. Traub, a computer science professor at Columbia University, claims that Gore "was perhaps the first political leader to grasp the importance of networking the country. Could we perhaps see an end to cheap shots from politicians and pundits about inventing the Internet?" THAT'S initiative. Sean will not respond to the specifics you've provided above. He can't. Anybody can cut-and-paste quotes from a single website. And that's all it took to prove you dead wrong. Now, where IS that quote that you and Rush and Hannity hold so dear?? Who's quoted opinions above do you disagree with? Vincent Cerf, a senior vice president with MCI Worldcom? Joseph E. Traub, a computer science professor at Columbia University? The inventor of the Mosaic Browser, Marc Andreesen? Which ones and why? None of the above. I was part of a company in the middle 80's writing among other things a terminal program called Interlink for the Atari ST. That for those of you new to computing, was based on a Motorola 68000 running at 8 KHz with 512k of memory and a Graphic user interface called GEM. The Atari was a little faster than a Mac and had at the time Industry standard hardware like Midi port, floppy drive compatible with the 3 1/2 drive in the PC and a modified SCSI port. The point of this was that the GEM interface and drawing utilities were in ROM in the computer. A simple 8 byte call to the GEM library could call a drawing routine that would create a circle and fill it with a pattern. Same with a line, rectangle, triangle and text. These were the tools to build an interface for a terminal program that would resemble what we have with our current generation of Web Browsers but able to work with 2400 baud modems. We created a prototype but didn't think it would sell as the Atari had too small a market share for BBS and national services like CompuServe to support it. For the user interface we see today to evolve we needed more market share, Chicken and egg! Information available nationally created demand that created the need for a easier information tool (web browsers) which created more demand. Darpa net being integrated into a net that linked universities step 1 Gore has a part in that as did many other Senators. Since Democrats controlled the Senate at that time...they get the credit. University students creating PD programs to easily access the info, grants to the most prolific, again Democrats controlled the Senate. These early machines were generally Unix machines not PCs. The internet as we have it today was market driven. Gore can not take credit for that. The Internet could have been created 15 years earlier IF the PC had been created with a 68000 and had a graphics user interface standard. The Mac, Amiga and Atari while VASTLY superior (by 20 times) the PC of the 80's couldn't get the market share the PC got because of the combination of the market draw of the IBM name and the ignorance of the consumer in buying the first , second and third generation PC (8086, 80286, 80386, 80486 The forth generation PC with a Pentium 60 Mhz processor was the equal of a 16 Mhz 68000 computer. At the Release of the Pentium, Motorola has a 68030 at 30 Mhz that was 5 times faster than the Pentium, |
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Jeff Rigby wrote:
"basskisser" wrote in message ups.com... Sean Corbett wrote: You wrote: "basskisser" wrote in message legroups.com... I guess the confusion comes from the fact that left-leaning persons can't comprehend "initiative". But the real question is what, if anything, did Gore actually do to create the modern Internet? According to Vincent Cerf, a senior vice president with MCI Worldcom who's been called the Father of the Internet, "The Internet would not be where it is in the United States without the strong support given to it and related research areas by the Vice President in his current role and in his earlier role as Senator." The inventor of the Mosaic Browser, Marc Andreesen, credits Gore with making his work possible. He received a federal grant through Gore's High Performance Computing Act. The University of Pennsylvania's Dave Ferber says that without Gore the Internet "would not be where it is today." Joseph E. Traub, a computer science professor at Columbia University, claims that Gore "was perhaps the first political leader to grasp the importance of networking the country. Could we perhaps see an end to cheap shots from politicians and pundits about inventing the Internet?" THAT'S initiative. Sean will not respond to the specifics you've provided above. He can't. Anybody can cut-and-paste quotes from a single website. And that's all it took to prove you dead wrong. Now, where IS that quote that you and Rush and Hannity hold so dear?? Who's quoted opinions above do you disagree with? Vincent Cerf, a senior vice president with MCI Worldcom? Joseph E. Traub, a computer science professor at Columbia University? The inventor of the Mosaic Browser, Marc Andreesen? Which ones and why? None of the above. I was part of a company in the middle 80's writing among other things a terminal program called Interlink for the Atari ST. That for those of you new to computing, was based on a Motorola 68000 running at 8 KHz with 512k of memory and a Graphic user interface called GEM. The Atari was a little faster than a Mac and had at the time Industry standard hardware like Midi port, floppy drive compatible with the 3 1/2 drive in the PC and a modified SCSI port. The point of this was that the GEM interface and drawing utilities were in ROM in the computer. A simple 8 byte call to the GEM library could call a drawing routine that would create a circle and fill it with a pattern. Same with a line, rectangle, triangle and text. These were the tools to build an interface for a terminal program that would resemble what we have with our current generation of Web Browsers but able to work with 2400 baud modems. We created a prototype but didn't think it would sell as the Atari had too small a market share for BBS and national services like CompuServe to support it. For the user interface we see today to evolve we needed more market share, Chicken and egg! Information available nationally created demand that created the need for a easier information tool (web browsers) which created more demand. Darpa net being integrated into a net that linked universities step 1 Gore has a part in that as did many other Senators. Since Democrats controlled the Senate at that time...they get the credit. University students creating PD programs to easily access the info, grants to the most prolific, again Democrats controlled the Senate. These early machines were generally Unix machines not PCs. The internet as we have it today was market driven. Gore can not take credit for that. The Internet could have been created 15 years earlier IF the PC had been created with a 68000 and had a graphics user interface standard. The Mac, Amiga and Atari while VASTLY superior (by 20 times) the PC of the 80's couldn't get the market share the PC got because of the combination of the market draw of the IBM name and the ignorance of the consumer in buying the first , second and third generation PC (8086, 80286, 80386, 80486 The forth generation PC with a Pentium 60 Mhz processor was the equal of a 16 Mhz 68000 computer. At the Release of the Pentium, Motorola has a 68030 at 30 Mhz that was 5 times faster than the Pentium, sorry jeff. the internet and its creation had nothing to do with ataris or PCs. -- Del Cecchi "This post is my own and doesn’t necessarily represent IBM’s positions, strategies or opinions.” |
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"Del Cecchi" wrote in message ... Jeff Rigby wrote: "basskisser" wrote in message ups.com... Sean Corbett wrote: You wrote: "basskisser" wrote in message glegroups.com... I guess the confusion comes from the fact that left-leaning persons can't comprehend "initiative". But the real question is what, if anything, did Gore actually do to create the modern Internet? According to Vincent Cerf, a senior vice president with MCI Worldcom who's been called the Father of the Internet, "The Internet would not be where it is in the United States without the strong support given to it and related research areas by the Vice President in his current role and in his earlier role as Senator." The inventor of the Mosaic Browser, Marc Andreesen, credits Gore with making his work possible. He received a federal grant through Gore's High Performance Computing Act. The University of Pennsylvania's Dave Ferber says that without Gore the Internet "would not be where it is today." Joseph E. Traub, a computer science professor at Columbia University, claims that Gore "was perhaps the first political leader to grasp the importance of networking the country. Could we perhaps see an end to cheap shots from politicians and pundits about inventing the Internet?" THAT'S initiative. Sean will not respond to the specifics you've provided above. He can't. Anybody can cut-and-paste quotes from a single website. And that's all it took to prove you dead wrong. Now, where IS that quote that you and Rush and Hannity hold so dear?? Who's quoted opinions above do you disagree with? Vincent Cerf, a senior vice president with MCI Worldcom? Joseph E. Traub, a computer science professor at Columbia University? The inventor of the Mosaic Browser, Marc Andreesen? Which ones and why? None of the above. I was part of a company in the middle 80's writing among other things a terminal program called Interlink for the Atari ST. That for those of you new to computing, was based on a Motorola 68000 running at 8 KHz with 512k of memory and a Graphic user interface called GEM. The Atari was a little faster than a Mac and had at the time Industry standard hardware like Midi port, floppy drive compatible with the 3 1/2 drive in the PC and a modified SCSI port. The point of this was that the GEM interface and drawing utilities were in ROM in the computer. A simple 8 byte call to the GEM library could call a drawing routine that would create a circle and fill it with a pattern. Same with a line, rectangle, triangle and text. These were the tools to build an interface for a terminal program that would resemble what we have with our current generation of Web Browsers but able to work with 2400 baud modems. We created a prototype but didn't think it would sell as the Atari had too small a market share for BBS and national services like CompuServe to support it. For the user interface we see today to evolve we needed more market share, Chicken and egg! Information available nationally created demand that created the need for a easier information tool (web browsers) which created more demand. Darpa net being integrated into a net that linked universities step 1 Gore has a part in that as did many other Senators. Since Democrats controlled the Senate at that time...they get the credit. University students creating PD programs to easily access the info, grants to the most prolific, again Democrats controlled the Senate. These early machines were generally Unix machines not PCs. The internet as we have it today was market driven. Gore can not take credit for that. The Internet could have been created 15 years earlier IF the PC had been created with a 68000 and had a graphics user interface standard. The Mac, Amiga and Atari while VASTLY superior (by 20 times) the PC of the 80's couldn't get the market share the PC got because of the combination of the market draw of the IBM name and the ignorance of the consumer in buying the first , second and third generation PC (8086, 80286, 80386, 80486 The forth generation PC with a Pentium 60 Mhz processor was the equal of a 16 Mhz 68000 computer. At the Release of the Pentium, Motorola has a 68030 at 30 Mhz that was 5 times faster than the Pentium, sorry jeff. the internet and its creation had nothing to do with ataris or PCs. -- Del Cecchi "This post is my own and doesn’t necessarily represent IBM’s positions, strategies or opinions.” Not the creation, but the explosion of internet expansion was PC's. And IBM picked the Intel architecture because it was not as good as a Mote 68k chip. Did not want to impact the sales of the AS400 line. |
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"Del Cecchi" wrote in message ... Jeff Rigby wrote: "basskisser" wrote in message ups.com... Sean Corbett wrote: You wrote: "basskisser" wrote in message glegroups.com... I guess the confusion comes from the fact that left-leaning persons can't comprehend "initiative". But the real question is what, if anything, did Gore actually do to create the modern Internet? According to Vincent Cerf, a senior vice president with MCI Worldcom who's been called the Father of the Internet, "The Internet would not be where it is in the United States without the strong support given to it and related research areas by the Vice President in his current role and in his earlier role as Senator." The inventor of the Mosaic Browser, Marc Andreesen, credits Gore with making his work possible. He received a federal grant through Gore's High Performance Computing Act. The University of Pennsylvania's Dave Ferber says that without Gore the Internet "would not be where it is today." Joseph E. Traub, a computer science professor at Columbia University, claims that Gore "was perhaps the first political leader to grasp the importance of networking the country. Could we perhaps see an end to cheap shots from politicians and pundits about inventing the Internet?" THAT'S initiative. Sean will not respond to the specifics you've provided above. He can't. Anybody can cut-and-paste quotes from a single website. And that's all it took to prove you dead wrong. Now, where IS that quote that you and Rush and Hannity hold so dear?? Who's quoted opinions above do you disagree with? Vincent Cerf, a senior vice president with MCI Worldcom? Joseph E. Traub, a computer science professor at Columbia University? The inventor of the Mosaic Browser, Marc Andreesen? Which ones and why? None of the above. I was part of a company in the middle 80's writing among other things a terminal program called Interlink for the Atari ST. That for those of you new to computing, was based on a Motorola 68000 running at 8 MHz with 512k of memory and a Graphic user interface called GEM. The Atari was a little faster than a Mac and had at the time Industry standard hardware like Midi port, floppy drive compatible with the 3 1/2 drive in the PC and a modified SCSI port. The point of this was that the GEM interface and drawing utilities were in ROM in the computer. A simple 8 byte call to the GEM library could call a drawing routine that would create a circle and fill it with a pattern. Same with a line, rectangle, triangle and text. These were the tools to build an interface for a terminal program that would resemble what we have with our current generation of Web Browsers but able to work with 2400 baud modems. We created a prototype but didn't think it would sell as the Atari had too small a market share for BBS and national services like CompuServe to support it. For the user interface we see today to evolve we needed more market share, Chicken and egg! Information available nationally created demand that created the need for a easier information tool (web browsers) which created more demand. Darpa net being integrated into a net that linked universities step 1 Gore has a part in that as did many other Senators. Since Democrats controlled the Senate at that time...they get the credit. University students creating PD programs to easily access the info, grants to the most prolific, again Democrats controlled the Senate. These early machines were generally Unix machines not PCs. The internet as we have it today was market driven. Gore can not take credit for that. The Internet could have been created 15 years earlier IF the PC had been created with a 68000 and had a graphics user interface standard. The Mac, Amiga and Atari while VASTLY superior (by 20 times) the PC of the 80's couldn't get the market share the PC got because of the combination of the market draw of the IBM name and the ignorance of the consumer in buying the first , second and third generation PC (8086, 80286, 80386, 80486 The forth generation PC with a Pentium 60 Mhz processor was the equal of a 16 Mhz 68000 computer. At the Release of the Pentium, Motorola had a 68030 at 30 Mhz that was 5 times faster than the Pentium. Win 98 which came several years after the release of the Pentium was the First interface equal to those available on "other " platforms. sorry jeff. the internet and its creation had nothing to do with Ataris or PCs. Yes, very sorry it didn't happen that way. Read my above again, I quote: "Darpa net being integrated into a net that linked universities step 1 Gore has a part in that as did many other Senators. Since Democrats controlled the Senate at that time...they get the credit. University students creating PD programs to easily access the info, grants to the most prolific, again Democrats controlled the Senate. These early machines were generally Unix machines not PCs." The EXPLOSION of and the Internet we have today were the direct result of the graphical user interface!!!!! That was delayed 10 years by IBM's choice of the 8088 for the PC. Read above. Compuserve, AOL, GE net, and others were the basic internet in the 80's. Email, information, PD programs, support for computer programs were all available nationally by dial up modem. When Darpa net begain linking Universitys, shortly after that they linked the above services to each other. -- Del Cecchi "This post is my own and doesn’t necessarily represent IBM’s positions, strategies or opinions.” |
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