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Don White May 26th 06 06:31 PM

Open question - Is this appropriate behavior...?
 
wrote:

Plenty of peace pipe to go around. :-)

We see the best and the worst of ourselves reflected in the people
around us. It's my opinion that if we expect to grow and improve as
individuals, we have to get past the point where we dwell on the
(perceived) faults of others. Two reasons; 1) if we can't forgive our
worst faults personified by others we will never get free of the burden
those same faults place on our own spiritual or pyschological progress.
2) Just as we all, individually, combine some extremely worthy as well
as some extremely unworthy aspects so do the people we encounter
throughout life. If we focus on the unworthiness of others we cannot
adequately appreciate their worth- and it is only the worthiness of our
brothers and sisters that enriches our own lives. As I said, that's my
opinion. Your mileage may vary, and if it does that's still pretty much
OK.


Dunno! Looks like you're applying 'Oprah' solutions to a 'Jerry
Springer crowd'. Might work on the best of the lot.


Don White May 26th 06 06:33 PM

Open question - Is this appropriate behavior...?
 
Reginald P. Smithers wrote:

Chuck,
Can you hear the music in the background? Listen closely, I think it is
Kumbaya, but I am not sure.

Have a great day, and your boat's paint job really looks nice, can you
imagine how slow and careful you will be docking and hauling your anchor
for the next few years.


Like that first ding in your new autos paint.
I'd be afraid to sail on that boat until a few scratches show up.

RCE May 26th 06 07:14 PM

Open question - Is this appropriate behavior...?
 

wrote in message
oups.com...



Plenty of peace pipe to go around. :-)

We see the best and the worst of ourselves reflected in the people
around us. It's my opinion that if we expect to grow and improve as
individuals, we have to get past the point where we dwell on the
(perceived) faults of others. Two reasons; 1) if we can't forgive our
worst faults personified by others we will never get free of the burden
those same faults place on our own spiritual or pyschological progress.
2) Just as we all, individually, combine some extremely worthy as well
as some extremely unworthy aspects so do the people we encounter
throughout life. If we focus on the unworthiness of others we cannot
adequately appreciate their worth- and it is only the worthiness of our
brothers and sisters that enriches our own lives. As I said, that's my
opinion. Your mileage may vary, and if it does that's still pretty much
OK.


Good grief, Chuck.

A swift kick in the ass is just as effective and works a heck of a lot
faster.

RCE




JIMinFL May 26th 06 07:20 PM

Open question - Is this appropriate behavior...?
 

"RCE" wrote in message
...

wrote in message
oups.com...



Plenty of peace pipe to go around. :-)

We see the best and the worst of ourselves reflected in the people
around us. It's my opinion that if we expect to grow and improve as
individuals, we have to get past the point where we dwell on the
(perceived) faults of others. Two reasons; 1) if we can't forgive our
worst faults personified by others we will never get free of the burden
those same faults place on our own spiritual or pyschological progress.
2) Just as we all, individually, combine some extremely worthy as well
as some extremely unworthy aspects so do the people we encounter
throughout life. If we focus on the unworthiness of others we cannot
adequately appreciate their worth- and it is only the worthiness of our
brothers and sisters that enriches our own lives. As I said, that's my
opinion. Your mileage may vary, and if it does that's still pretty much
OK.


Good grief, Chuck.

A swift kick in the ass is just as effective and works a heck of a lot
faster.

RCE



More Psycho babble from the Chuckster. Please pardon my bluntness.



Reginald P. Smithers May 26th 06 07:35 PM

Open question - Is this appropriate behavior...?
 
Harry Krause wrote:
Don White wrote:
Reginald P. Smithers wrote:
Chuck,
Can you hear the music in the background? Listen closely, I think it
is Kumbaya, but I am not sure.

Have a great day, and your boat's paint job really looks nice, can
you imagine how slow and careful you will be docking and hauling your
anchor for the next few years.


Like that first ding in your new autos paint.
I'd be afraid to sail on that boat until a few scratches show up.



Chuck's boat only goes slow.


Harry,

Then he will only get slow dings and dents in his boat. ;)

Harry, when I was younger, I always was in a rush to get somewhere, now
that I am older and dumber, I try to enjoy the trip as much as the
destination.

I was surprised that you would really consider spending $12,000 so you
can go 5 mph faster on the few days when the bay is calm enough so you
could actually go 30mph at 4000 rpm. Between the wind,, and the wake
chop, that must be 3 or 4 days a year. ; )

I really figure it was an mental exercise you were playing with, but
you really would have some other toy you would prefer over a new engine.
Heck, now that I own a Nikon D50, I could spend $12,000 just on new
lens, monopods, tripods, tutorials, software etc. I have the new 18-200
mm on order, they guess it will be 4-6 weeks before it is in. I just got
off the phone with Nikon, they tell me I really don't need a UV or Clear
Lens filter to protect this lens, they say if I do scratch the exterior
lens, it is fairly easy to replace. They told me the idea that one
needs a UV lens filter to protect your lens is a carry over from the old
lens.

On a positive side, this is a hobby both my wife and I enjoy, and the
learning curve seems to be very steep, so one does not get bored.


--
Reggie

That's my story and I am sticking to it.

JohnH May 26th 06 08:22 PM

Open question - Is this appropriate behavior...?
 
On 26 May 2006 07:21:21 -0700, "
wrote:


JohnH wrote:
On 25 May 2006 19:00:31 -0700, "
wrote:


JohnH wrote:
We've all enjoyed having Rich in the group. As have others, he has shared
pictures of his boat, his house, his car, etc. Now he is being attacked for
doing so, and in a way that, to me, is despicable.

*********************************************
"JimH" wrote in message
oups.com...
And in your case.....narcissistic.

Any new pictures of the things you purchased and want to flaunt to the
NG? You know, the "look what I have but you don't" type you normally
post.

Have a super fantasticalictic weekend materialistic boy.;-)
*******************************************

Comments? Do you actually approve of this in the newsgroup?
--
'Til next time,

John H

******************************************
***** Have a Spectacular Day! *****
******************************************

"Is this appropriate behavior?"

Are referring to your post, launched as nothing more than a personal
remark about another poster in an effort to perpetuate a feud?

If so, then my answer would be "no."


No Chuck, I'm referring to a personal attack of a viciousness which is
despicable. As long as folks condone that behavior, it will continue. I can
put up with political posting much better than with this crap.
--


In that case, my advice would be to try to be the "bigger" man.
Stooping to the attacker's level simply means that two people are
playing the fool. The party who accused you of lying about matching
donations to your daughter's cancer fund has alienated himself, at
least temporarily, in a way that we haven't seen since that Bayliner
owner from Kansas last hung around here. Even Bert and Fritz, a couple
of guys never bashful about sharing opinions about other people, have
told him to cool it, (see "is it time for the group to designate...").
If he persists, he will find himself Skipperized in short order- but
you don't want to go down in the flames of his self destruction.

Why not publicly bury the hatchet with the guy and just start over? It
doesn't matter whether
one of you guys is right and the other is wrong, you are both wrong if
you launch threads simply to attack the other guy. Heck, it doesn't
even need to be some long dramatic self effacing event. Here's all it
takes to put this thing to rest.

1. Here's a virtual peace pipe: (careful, it was packed by a liberal
so you don't know just what sort of wacky tabacky it might contain
grin)

2. To end the dispute, simply respond to this thread with the single
word "Toke". If you each take a toke, it's over, everybody's even, and
life goes on. Everybody forgives and forgets, no strings attached.


Any takers? ("tokers")? :


Chuck, perhaps you are seeing things that don't exist. I'm referring to a
behavior pattern. You call it a 'personal attack'. I have no desire to
perpetuate a feud with JimH. I do find his venomous attacks on Rich to be
despicable. I think anyone should be able to post pictures of their house,
boat (s), horses, dogs, or whatever, without the name-calling and envy
being displayed by JimH.

You seem to disregard the behavior in question and, instead, focus on the
personalities. Forget the personalities for a minute. Do you find the
behavior appropriate?
--
'Til next time,

John H

******************************************
***** Have a Spectacular Day! *****
******************************************

JohnH May 26th 06 08:26 PM

Open question - Is this appropriate behavior...?
 
On Fri, 26 May 2006 12:20:30 -0400, "Reginald P. Smithers"
wrote:

Reginald P. Smithers wrote:
wrote:
Reginald P. Smithers wrote:
wrote:
JohnH wrote:
On 25 May 2006 19:00:31 -0700, "
wrote:

JohnH wrote:
We've all enjoyed having Rich in the group. As have others, he
has shared
pictures of his boat, his house, his car, etc. Now he is being
attacked for
doing so, and in a way that, to me, is despicable.

*********************************************
"JimH" wrote in message
oups.com...
And in your case.....narcissistic.

Any new pictures of the things you purchased and want to flaunt
to the
NG? You know, the "look what I have but you don't" type you
normally
post.

Have a super fantasticalictic weekend materialistic boy.;-)
*******************************************

Comments? Do you actually approve of this in the newsgroup?
--
'Til next time,

John H

******************************************
***** Have a Spectacular Day! *****
******************************************
"Is this appropriate behavior?"

Are referring to your post, launched as nothing more than a personal
remark about another poster in an effort to perpetuate a feud?

If so, then my answer would be "no."
No Chuck, I'm referring to a personal attack of a viciousness which is
despicable. As long as folks condone that behavior, it will
continue. I can
put up with political posting much better than with this crap.
--
In that case, my advice would be to try to be the "bigger" man.
Stooping to the attacker's level simply means that two people are
playing the fool. The party who accused you of lying about matching
donations to your daughter's cancer fund has alienated himself, at
least temporarily, in a way that we haven't seen since that Bayliner
owner from Kansas last hung around here. Even Bert and Fritz, a couple
of guys never bashful about sharing opinions about other people, have
told him to cool it, (see "is it time for the group to designate...").
If he persists, he will find himself Skipperized in short order- but
you don't want to go down in the flames of his self destruction.

Why not publicly bury the hatchet with the guy and just start over? It
doesn't matter whether
one of you guys is right and the other is wrong, you are both wrong if
you launch threads simply to attack the other guy. Heck, it doesn't
even need to be some long dramatic self effacing event. Here's all it
takes to put this thing to rest.

1. Here's a virtual peace pipe: (careful, it was packed by a liberal
so you don't know just what sort of wacky tabacky it might contain
grin)

2. To end the dispute, simply respond to this thread with the single
word "Toke". If you each take a toke, it's over, everybody's even, and
life goes on. Everybody forgives and forgets, no strings attached.


Any takers? ("tokers")? :

Chuck,

This would work with the majority of people, but there are some that can
be be handled by just ignoring them. There are some who knowingly lie,
just so they can start a fight (i am thinking about someone who has done
with numerous times, (ie two quick examples are when he said you
published his home address and phone number and started 100's of post
calling you what a low life dog for publishing his personal info. When
he found out someone had cached the web site, he suddenly sheepishly
apologized).

This kind of person is best ignored.

--
Reggie

That's my story and I am sticking to it.


Plenty of peace pipe to go around. :-)

We see the best and the worst of ourselves reflected in the people
around us. It's my opinion that if we expect to grow and improve as
individuals, we have to get past the point where we dwell on the
(perceived) faults of others. Two reasons; 1) if we can't forgive our
worst faults personified by others we will never get free of the burden
those same faults place on our own spiritual or pyschological progress.
2) Just as we all, individually, combine some extremely worthy as well
as some extremely unworthy aspects so do the people we encounter
throughout life. If we focus on the unworthiness of others we cannot
adequately appreciate their worth- and it is only the worthiness of our
brothers and sisters that enriches our own lives. As I said, that's my
opinion. Your mileage may vary, and if it does that's still pretty much
OK.

Chuck,
Can you hear the music in the background? Listen closely, I think it is
Kumbaya, but I am not sure.

Have a great day, and your boat's paint job really looks nice, can you
imagine how slow and careful you will be docking and hauling your anchor
for the next few years.



PS - This reminds me of a boat I saw being launch on a quiet weekday.
It was a old woody Chris Craft runabout, in PERFECT condition. The guy
has spent 2 years doing the work himself, but it looked like it was done
by pros.

He was by himself, so I went down to help (and check out his boat). He
launched his boat, and asked me if I would drive his car and trailer to
the parking lot. As I came back to work on my boat, I saw him trying to
back the woody into an empty slip, when they wind gusted and caught the
boat. The metal slip did not have any fenders and he made a 2 ft. gash
along the side.

That made me cringe, I can't imagine how he felt. Since then I have
always remembered, fenders are your friends.


I wish I'd had some on the Mustang yesterday. I parked it at a Home Depot,
about half a mile from the entrance. When I came out, I found some chunks
of paint taken off the left rear bumper (plastic). Luckily it hadn't been
hit hard enough to damage the bumper, but it's costing $439 to get the
paint fixed.

Bumpers would have been my friend, even though they'd look a little weird
on a Mustang in a Home Depot parking lot.
--
'Til next time,

John H

******************************************
***** Have a Spectacular Day! *****
******************************************

JohnH May 26th 06 08:27 PM

Open question - Is this appropriate behavior...?
 
On Fri, 26 May 2006 17:33:43 GMT, Don White wrote:

Reginald P. Smithers wrote:

Chuck,
Can you hear the music in the background? Listen closely, I think it is
Kumbaya, but I am not sure.

Have a great day, and your boat's paint job really looks nice, can you
imagine how slow and careful you will be docking and hauling your anchor
for the next few years.


Like that first ding in your new autos paint.
I'd be afraid to sail on that boat until a few scratches show up.


I went through the 'first ding' yesterday. What a bitch!

(See response to Reggie.)
--
'Til next time,

John H

******************************************
***** Have a Spectacular Day! *****
******************************************

JohnH May 26th 06 08:29 PM

Open question - Is this appropriate behavior...?
 
On Fri, 26 May 2006 14:35:01 -0400, "Reginald P. Smithers"
wrote:

Harry Krause wrote:
Don White wrote:
Reginald P. Smithers wrote:
Chuck,
Can you hear the music in the background? Listen closely, I think it
is Kumbaya, but I am not sure.

Have a great day, and your boat's paint job really looks nice, can
you imagine how slow and careful you will be docking and hauling your
anchor for the next few years.


Like that first ding in your new autos paint.
I'd be afraid to sail on that boat until a few scratches show up.



Chuck's boat only goes slow.


Harry,

Then he will only get slow dings and dents in his boat. ;)

Harry, when I was younger, I always was in a rush to get somewhere, now
that I am older and dumber, I try to enjoy the trip as much as the
destination.

I was surprised that you would really consider spending $12,000 so you
can go 5 mph faster on the few days when the bay is calm enough so you
could actually go 30mph at 4000 rpm. Between the wind,, and the wake
chop, that must be 3 or 4 days a year. ; )

I really figure it was an mental exercise you were playing with, but
you really would have some other toy you would prefer over a new engine.
Heck, now that I own a Nikon D50, I could spend $12,000 just on new
lens, monopods, tripods, tutorials, software etc. I have the new 18-200
mm on order, they guess it will be 4-6 weeks before it is in. I just got
off the phone with Nikon, they tell me I really don't need a UV or Clear
Lens filter to protect this lens, they say if I do scratch the exterior
lens, it is fairly easy to replace. They told me the idea that one
needs a UV lens filter to protect your lens is a carry over from the old
lens.

On a positive side, this is a hobby both my wife and I enjoy, and the
learning curve seems to be very steep, so one does not get bored.


Let me know what you think of that lens when you get it. It's getting good
reviews in the digital slr group.

I don't care what Nikon says, I still use a filter to protect the lens.

That's my story, etc!
--
'Til next time,

John H

******************************************
***** Have a Spectacular Day! *****
******************************************

JohnH May 26th 06 08:31 PM

Open question - Is this appropriate behavior...?
 
On Fri, 26 May 2006 12:22:18 -0400, "Reginald P. Smithers"
wrote:

So are you staying clear of the lake this weekend? This is the one
weekend I never go to the lake, it is worse than the 4th of July.


I'm sure as hell staying clear of the whole Chesapeake Bay!
--
'Til next time,

John H

******************************************
***** Have a Spectacular Day! *****
******************************************


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