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Memorial Day Weekend Plans
The weather looks great for us this Memorial Day weekend and we may take the
boat out Saturday and Monday. I also want to give my son some first hand experience to see how stupid some folks can be on the water and figure this will be a great opportunity for it. I will be at the helm as I know how crazy it will probably be. He received his boating safety class certification over the winter by attending the Power Squadron classes and I want to give him some on water time fine tuning instructions before I allow him to take it out on his own. I also plan to take him out (just him and me) next week to go over docking and key features of the boat he needs to know. The nicest day of the weekend (weather wise) is expected to be Sunday but we will be happy being away from the boat that day...........that same son of mine is graduating from High School that day and my daughter will be home for the ceremony and celebratory dinner (that I am cooking). ;-) So what are your plans? |
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JimH wrote:
The weather looks great for us this Memorial Day weekend and we may take the boat out Saturday and Monday. I also want to give my son some first hand experience to see how stupid some folks can be on the water and figure this will be a great opportunity for it. I will be at the helm as I know how crazy it will probably be. He received his boating safety class certification over the winter by attending the Power Squadron classes and I want to give him some on water time fine tuning instructions before I allow him to take it out on his own. I also plan to take him out (just him and me) next week to go over docking and key features of the boat he needs to know. The nicest day of the weekend (weather wise) is expected to be Sunday but we will be happy being away from the boat that day...........that same son of mine is graduating from High School that day and my daughter will be home for the ceremony and celebratory dinner (that I am cooking). ;-) So what are your plans? Since Sunday should be sunny (maybe), I'll be busy building a pressure treated fence along the east side of my backyard...where my garage was until a couple of weeks ago. This week it's either raining or threatening to rain...tough trying to set 4" x 4" posts in concrete. |
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"Don White" wrote in message ... JimH wrote: The weather looks great for us this Memorial Day weekend and we may take the boat out Saturday and Monday. I also want to give my son some first hand experience to see how stupid some folks can be on the water and figure this will be a great opportunity for it. I will be at the helm as I know how crazy it will probably be. He received his boating safety class certification over the winter by attending the Power Squadron classes and I want to give him some on water time fine tuning instructions before I allow him to take it out on his own. I also plan to take him out (just him and me) next week to go over docking and key features of the boat he needs to know. The nicest day of the weekend (weather wise) is expected to be Sunday but we will be happy being away from the boat that day...........that same son of mine is graduating from High School that day and my daughter will be home for the ceremony and celebratory dinner (that I am cooking). ;-) So what are your plans? Since Sunday should be sunny (maybe), I'll be busy building a pressure treated fence along the east side of my backyard...where my garage was until a couple of weeks ago. This week it's either raining or threatening to rain...tough trying to set 4" x 4" posts in concrete. If the ground is wet just dig out the hole to the appropriate depth for your area, widen out the hole base to form a footer, fill it with 2" of gravel, set the post inside of it and pour in the dry quick set concrete. Use a pole to probe the concrete mix to make sure there are no voids. Now sprinkle with water. The concrete mix will wick the water you sprayed onto it and most especially from the cavity walls and will set.................and set firm I used this method for years in this northern climate when setting posts for fences, decks and basketball posts and have never run into a problem. I do, however, make sure my holes are set deep enough for my winter climate. |
Memorial Day Weekend Plans
JimH wrote: The weather looks great for us this Memorial Day weekend and we may take the boat out Saturday and Monday. I also want to give my son some first hand experience to see how stupid some folks can be on the water and figure this will be a great opportunity for it. I will be at the helm as I know how crazy it will probably be. He received his boating safety class certification over the winter by attending the Power Squadron classes and I want to give him some on water time fine tuning instructions before I allow him to take it out on his own. I also plan to take him out (just him and me) next week to go over docking and key features of the boat he needs to know. The nicest day of the weekend (weather wise) is expected to be Sunday but we will be happy being away from the boat that day...........that same son of mine is graduating from High School that day and my daughter will be home for the ceremony and celebratory dinner (that I am cooking). ;-) So what are your plans? Indulgence is now about 3 weeks from done. I'll be up at the boatyard on Sunday and Monday paying homage to the goddess Bernice. I haven't been able to convice my wife to join me. She keeps saying that whenever the boat needs work (or costs money) that it's *my* boat. Go figure? She's happy enough to spend a few weeks on "my" boat every year- and I notice she has a keen interest in choosing new window coverings, etc. Aw well, looks like it will just be me and Bernice this weekend. (Bernice was a Norse goddess of the woodlands, and her name is the etymological root for "varnish"- a product that essentially uses the essence of wood itself to enhance the appearance the material's appearance.) |
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On Wed, 24 May 2006 17:05:19 -0400, " JimH"
jimhUNDERSCOREosudad@yahooDOTcom wrote: So what are your plans? We'll be out on Sunday... but it's nothing new. I already have a tan, and have run through a couple of tanks of (expensive) gas. South Carolina is almost as good as Florida in some ways, and far better in others! We're way into boating season already. Jack |
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On Thu, 25 May 2006 01:49:50 GMT, Jack Goff wrote:
South Carolina is almost as good as Florida in some ways, and far better in others! We're way into boating season already. Boating season never ends in Florida, and here in SWFL the winter season is better than summer in many respects. We'll be heading out to Ft Myers Beach with a bunch of our boating neighbors. |
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JimH wrote:
"Don White" wrote in message ... JimH wrote: The weather looks great for us this Memorial Day weekend and we may take the boat out Saturday and Monday. I also want to give my son some first hand experience to see how stupid some folks can be on the water and figure this will be a great opportunity for it. I will be at the helm as I know how crazy it will probably be. He received his boating safety class certification over the winter by attending the Power Squadron classes and I want to give him some on water time fine tuning instructions before I allow him to take it out on his own. I also plan to take him out (just him and me) next week to go over docking and key features of the boat he needs to know. The nicest day of the weekend (weather wise) is expected to be Sunday but we will be happy being away from the boat that day...........that same son of mine is graduating from High School that day and my daughter will be home for the ceremony and celebratory dinner (that I am cooking). ;-) So what are your plans? Since Sunday should be sunny (maybe), I'll be busy building a pressure treated fence along the east side of my backyard...where my garage was until a couple of weeks ago. This week it's either raining or threatening to rain...tough trying to set 4" x 4" posts in concrete. If the ground is wet just dig out the hole to the appropriate depth for your area, widen out the hole base to form a footer, fill it with 2" of gravel, set the post inside of it and pour in the dry quick set concrete. Use a pole to probe the concrete mix to make sure there are no voids. Now sprinkle with water. The concrete mix will wick the water you sprayed onto it and most especially from the cavity walls and will set.................and set firm I used this method for years in this northern climate when setting posts for fences, decks and basketball posts and have never run into a problem. I do, however, make sure my holes are set deep enough for my winter climate. We'll be using 8" 'SonoTube' to set the post in and will fill cavity remaining with the concrete mix. (eventually backfilling around tube with earth) Here they recommend from 3.5 to 4 feet below grade to avoid frost heaves. Digging holes that deep by hand can be tiring when hitting large rocks, roots etc. |
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" JimH" jimhUNDERSCOREosudad@yahooDOTcom wrote in message ... The weather looks great for us this Memorial Day weekend and we may take the boat out Saturday and Monday. I also want to give my son some first hand experience to see how stupid some folks can be on the water and figure this will be a great opportunity for it. I will be at the helm as I know how crazy it will probably be. He received his boating safety class certification over the winter by attending the Power Squadron classes and I want to give him some on water time fine tuning instructions before I allow him to take it out on his own. I also plan to take him out (just him and me) next week to go over docking and key features of the boat he needs to know. The nicest day of the weekend (weather wise) is expected to be Sunday but we will be happy being away from the boat that day...........that same son of mine is graduating from High School that day and my daughter will be home for the ceremony and celebratory dinner (that I am cooking). ;-) So what are your plans? Awards ceremony at school Friday morning for my 15 year old, then brunch with friends, then some practice tossing trout lures into a small lake. Ferry ride, picnic, and bike riding with friends on Angel Island in San Francisco Bay on Saturday, and probably some more practice tossing trout lures into a small lake. Sunday, boating! Monday, boating! |
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Jack Goff wrote:
South Carolina is almost as good as Florida in some ways, and far better in others! We're way into boating season already. I like that: "South Carolina is almost as good as Florida in some ways." Maybe they can start putting that on their license plates. Wayne.B wrote: Boating season never ends in Florida, and here in SWFL the winter season is better than summer in many respects. Heck, boating season never ends in North Carolina. I don't know what's wrong with those yokels to the south. It's true there are some weeks where the temp is a bit unpleasant for being out on the water, but that's just a temporary setback and not worth moving to the Equator. We'll be heading out to Ft Myers Beach with a bunch of our boating neighbors. Sounds good. We don't really have any definite plans, but will do some work on the boat and take it out for a spin.... hopefully the weather will be good for some sailing, too. Fair Skies- Doug King |
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On Thu, 25 May 2006 06:38:40 -0400, DSK wrote:
Jack Goff wrote: South Carolina is almost as good as Florida in some ways, and far better in others! We're way into boating season already. I like that: "South Carolina is almost as good as Florida in some ways." Maybe they can start putting that on their license plates. LOL! Nah, we'll stick with" SC: Far better than FL". We have fewer displaced yankees, and four seasons. Don't laugh, we consider North Carolinians to be yankees. :-) Heck, boating season never ends in North Carolina. I don't know what's wrong with those yokels to the south. It's true there are some weeks where the temp is a bit unpleasant for being out on the water, but that's just a temporary setback and not worth moving to the Equator. I hear ya. Our boat lives in a slip, and only comes out of the water for maintenance and cleaning. It gets used year-round. But I consider boating season to be when I can get into the water. That means it runs from April-May until at least October. The rest of the time I'm in the boat, and wishing it was warm enough to be in the water. |
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JimH wrote: The weather looks great for us this Memorial Day weekend and we may take the boat out Saturday and Monday. I also want to give my son some first hand experience to see how stupid some folks can be on the water and figure this will be a great opportunity for it. I will be at the helm as I know how crazy it will probably be. He received his boating safety class certification over the winter by attending the Power Squadron classes and I want to give him some on water time fine tuning instructions before I allow him to take it out on his own. I also plan to take him out (just him and me) next week to go over docking and key features of the boat he needs to know. The nicest day of the weekend (weather wise) is expected to be Sunday but we will be happy being away from the boat that day...........that same son of mine is graduating from High School that day and my daughter will be home for the ceremony and celebratory dinner (that I am cooking). ;-) So what are your plans? Mine: http://www.tybeeisland.com/ |
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Jack Goff wrote:
.... Don't laugh, we consider North Carolinians to be yankees. :-) I know, I lived down there a while You all have "barbecue" which contains rice & mustard.... that should at least get points for originality, I suppose I hear ya. Our boat lives in a slip, and only comes out of the water for maintenance and cleaning. It gets used year-round. But I consider boating season to be when I can get into the water. That means it runs from April-May until at least October. The rest of the time I'm in the boat, and wishing it was warm enough to be in the water. We just got our boat launched, after it's first haul-out in three years. As for swimming, it does tend to get a bit nippy between Halloween & Valentines Day. But at least there aren't any mosquitos then. These days I do most of my swimming in a pool, and for those small boat sailing days, I have a wetsuit. No problem! As for Yankees, I don't mind them much. They crash their cars in the winter and they burn themselves to a frazzle in the summer... so far I have met very few who have figured out that October thru May is the best season to be on the water, they are still on Rhode Island time (or something). I met a fellow a couople weeks back who was simultaneously wiping sweat off his neck and saying that he hoped he could launch his boat for "spring" a week early this year! Oh well. Regards Doug King |
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Jack Goff wrote:
I hear ya. Our boat lives in a slip, and only comes out of the water for maintenance and cleaning. It gets used year-round. But I consider boating season to be when I can get into the water. That means it runs from April-May until at least October. The rest of the time I'm in the boat, and wishing it was warm enough to be in the water. What a girlieman! People up here swim almost as long a season. |
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Well, I'm leaving Friday night after a rock concert at Jones Beach (my
wife's pick this time - double-bill of Styx and Foreigner, two groups I wouldn't care about even if it was their original line-ups with the real lead singer, which it isn't in either case!) to visit my Mom, stepdad, sister, brother-in-law and niece on the South Jersey shore (Longport, the next town north from Ocean City, NJ) until Monday morning...but Karen is staying home for the weekend sending me for the family visit myself (her kids, my stepdaughters will be with their old man after he picks 'em up on Saturday morning)....which will be nice, I'll be down the shore on my own without wife or kids to set my own recreational schedule kind of selfishly for two days.....so anyway, bringing the kayak down to go for a nice afternoon run with my brother-in-law, who keeps his down there, on Saturday, if the weather's nice...if it's rainy I'll probably just sit around the house, socialize, play piano, play with my new gps, and kind of mope...but also taking the Waverunner down which should make for a really nice opportunity on Sunday (again, pending the weather which seems pretty up in the air at this point) for an epic all-day solo run of the kind I wouldn't be able to make if I was down there with the wife and kids. If it's not too windy I'm thinking of a fairly insane ride down to Cape May, across the Delaware Bay and all the way to Ocean City, Md., and back....or if it looks too windy for that kind of ride, maybe I'll just circle around Absecon Island through the back bays, ask my sister if they want to meet me around Brigantine for lunch on the water...and then back around on the ocean side (again, conditions permitting but in my experience it's usually very calm along the Jersey coast), hopefully I'll see some dolphins, actually saw one off Staten Island in early April. Been boating since Apr. 2nd but this ride should make a good "official season kick-off"...man I hope the weather turns out nice. richforman |
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JimH wrote: "Don White" wrote in message ... JimH wrote: The weather looks great for us this Memorial Day weekend and we may take the boat out Saturday and Monday. I also want to give my son some first hand experience to see how stupid some folks can be on the water and figure this will be a great opportunity for it. I will be at the helm as I know how crazy it will probably be. He received his boating safety class certification over the winter by attending the Power Squadron classes and I want to give him some on water time fine tuning instructions before I allow him to take it out on his own. I also plan to take him out (just him and me) next week to go over docking and key features of the boat he needs to know. The nicest day of the weekend (weather wise) is expected to be Sunday but we will be happy being away from the boat that day...........that same son of mine is graduating from High School that day and my daughter will be home for the ceremony and celebratory dinner (that I am cooking). ;-) So what are your plans? Since Sunday should be sunny (maybe), I'll be busy building a pressure treated fence along the east side of my backyard...where my garage was until a couple of weeks ago. This week it's either raining or threatening to rain...tough trying to set 4" x 4" posts in concrete. If the ground is wet just dig out the hole to the appropriate depth for your area, widen out the hole base to form a footer, fill it with 2" of gravel, set the post inside of it and pour in the dry quick set concrete. Use a pole to probe the concrete mix to make sure there are no voids. Now sprinkle with water. The concrete mix will wick the water you sprayed onto it and most especially from the cavity walls and will set.................and set firm I used this method for years in this northern climate when setting posts for fences, decks and basketball posts and have never run into a problem. I do, however, make sure my holes are set deep enough for my winter climate. Contrary to popular belief, you shouldn't encase PT lumber in concrete. You should instead pour a footing/pier (NOT "footer") then use a Simpson or equal post bracket that get's the PT off of the concrete. Concrete always holds moisture, so exposes the PT lumber to rot. This being said, I do it the way you've mentioned, and my fence has been in place 11 years, not rotted yet. A good trick though, is to use put a couple of 16d nails in the bottom of the post but don't drive them home, leaving about half the nail exposed. This will prevent uplift after the concrete sets. |
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basskisser wrote:
JimH wrote: "Don White" wrote in message ... JimH wrote: The weather looks great for us this Memorial Day weekend and we may take the boat out Saturday and Monday. I also want to give my son some first hand experience to see how stupid some folks can be on the water and figure this will be a great opportunity for it. I will be at the helm as I know how crazy it will probably be. He received his boating safety class certification over the winter by attending the Power Squadron classes and I want to give him some on water time fine tuning instructions before I allow him to take it out on his own. I also plan to take him out (just him and me) next week to go over docking and key features of the boat he needs to know. The nicest day of the weekend (weather wise) is expected to be Sunday but we will be happy being away from the boat that day...........that same son of mine is graduating from High School that day and my daughter will be home for the ceremony and celebratory dinner (that I am cooking). ;-) So what are your plans? Since Sunday should be sunny (maybe), I'll be busy building a pressure treated fence along the east side of my backyard...where my garage was until a couple of weeks ago. This week it's either raining or threatening to rain...tough trying to set 4" x 4" posts in concrete. If the ground is wet just dig out the hole to the appropriate depth for your area, widen out the hole base to form a footer, fill it with 2" of gravel, set the post inside of it and pour in the dry quick set concrete. Use a pole to probe the concrete mix to make sure there are no voids. Now sprinkle with water. The concrete mix will wick the water you sprayed onto it and most especially from the cavity walls and will set.................and set firm I used this method for years in this northern climate when setting posts for fences, decks and basketball posts and have never run into a problem. I do, however, make sure my holes are set deep enough for my winter climate. Contrary to popular belief, you shouldn't encase PT lumber in concrete. You should instead pour a footing/pier (NOT "footer") then use a Simpson or equal post bracket that get's the PT off of the concrete. Concrete always holds moisture, so exposes the PT lumber to rot. This being said, I do it the way you've mentioned, and my fence has been in place 11 years, not rotted yet. A good trick though, is to use put a couple of 16d nails in the bottom of the post but don't drive them home, leaving about half the nail exposed. This will prevent uplift after the concrete sets. A home inspector will highlight and emphasize the problems of placing PT wood directly into concrete. It will rot out substantially faster than if the wood is attached correctly to a footing. Every home improvement show I have watched has highlighted the dangers of placing PT directly into the dirt of concrete. -- Reggie That's my story and I am sticking to it. |
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On Thu, 25 May 2006 08:51:44 -0400, DSK wrote:
Jack Goff wrote: .... Don't laugh, we consider North Carolinians to be yankees. :-) I know, I lived down there a while You all have "barbecue" which contains rice & mustard.... that should at least get points for originality, I suppose I grew up on mustard-based BBQ. The little local places have the good stuff, not the Maurice Bessinger's crap. But we've gotten worldly now... most places have vinegar and tomato based sauces as well. The rice is for the string hash, not the BBQ. You can't eat BBQ without hash! A goup of us does BBQ at the local hole-in-the-wall every Friday for lunch. Now I can't stop thinking about it! Glad tomorrow is Friday. Jack |
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"Wayne.B" wrote in message ... On 25 May 2006 07:09:32 -0700, wrote: hopefully I'll see some dolphins, actually saw one off Staten Island in early April. Last year at this time on our trip north, we saw quite a few dolphins feeding on the surface in the vicinity of Porposie Banks approx 8 miles SSE of Chincoteague Inlet, and also near the fish haven 5 miles east of Indian River Inlet. Are you coming north this year? RCE |
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Reginald P. Smithers wrote:
basskisser wrote: JimH wrote: "Don White" wrote in message ... JimH wrote: The weather looks great for us this Memorial Day weekend and we may take the boat out Saturday and Monday. I also want to give my son some first hand experience to see how stupid some folks can be on the water and figure this will be a great opportunity for it. I will be at the helm as I know how crazy it will probably be. He received his boating safety class certification over the winter by attending the Power Squadron classes and I want to give him some on water time fine tuning instructions before I allow him to take it out on his own. I also plan to take him out (just him and me) next week to go over docking and key features of the boat he needs to know. The nicest day of the weekend (weather wise) is expected to be Sunday but we will be happy being away from the boat that day...........that same son of mine is graduating from High School that day and my daughter will be home for the ceremony and celebratory dinner (that I am cooking). ;-) So what are your plans? Since Sunday should be sunny (maybe), I'll be busy building a pressure treated fence along the east side of my backyard...where my garage was until a couple of weeks ago. This week it's either raining or threatening to rain...tough trying to set 4" x 4" posts in concrete. If the ground is wet just dig out the hole to the appropriate depth for your area, widen out the hole base to form a footer, fill it with 2" of gravel, set the post inside of it and pour in the dry quick set concrete. Use a pole to probe the concrete mix to make sure there are no voids. Now sprinkle with water. The concrete mix will wick the water you sprayed onto it and most especially from the cavity walls and will set.................and set firm I used this method for years in this northern climate when setting posts for fences, decks and basketball posts and have never run into a problem. I do, however, make sure my holes are set deep enough for my winter climate. Contrary to popular belief, you shouldn't encase PT lumber in concrete. You should instead pour a footing/pier (NOT "footer") then use a Simpson or equal post bracket that get's the PT off of the concrete. Concrete always holds moisture, so exposes the PT lumber to rot. This being said, I do it the way you've mentioned, and my fence has been in place 11 years, not rotted yet. A good trick though, is to use put a couple of 16d nails in the bottom of the post but don't drive them home, leaving about half the nail exposed. This will prevent uplift after the concrete sets. A home inspector will highlight and emphasize the problems of placing PT wood directly into concrete. It will rot out substantially faster than if the wood is attached correctly to a footing. Every home improvement show I have watched has highlighted the dangers of placing PT directly into the dirt of concrete. This site seems to think PT lumber & concrete can work together. http://wilwaylumber.com/howto/howto082.htm same with this one.. http://ak.essortment.com/fencepostinsta_nfm.htm and another.. http://www.theworkshop.net/Tips/htm/...howtobuild.htm |
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"Don White" wrote in message ... Reginald P. Smithers wrote: basskisser wrote: JimH wrote: "Don White" wrote in message ... JimH wrote: The weather looks great for us this Memorial Day weekend and we may take the boat out Saturday and Monday. I also want to give my son some first hand experience to see how stupid some folks can be on the water and figure this will be a great opportunity for it. I will be at the helm as I know how crazy it will probably be. He received his boating safety class certification over the winter by attending the Power Squadron classes and I want to give him some on water time fine tuning instructions before I allow him to take it out on his own. I also plan to take him out (just him and me) next week to go over docking and key features of the boat he needs to know. The nicest day of the weekend (weather wise) is expected to be Sunday but we will be happy being away from the boat that day...........that same son of mine is graduating from High School that day and my daughter will be home for the ceremony and celebratory dinner (that I am cooking). ;-) So what are your plans? Since Sunday should be sunny (maybe), I'll be busy building a pressure treated fence along the east side of my backyard...where my garage was until a couple of weeks ago. This week it's either raining or threatening to rain...tough trying to set 4" x 4" posts in concrete. If the ground is wet just dig out the hole to the appropriate depth for your area, widen out the hole base to form a footer, fill it with 2" of gravel, set the post inside of it and pour in the dry quick set concrete. Use a pole to probe the concrete mix to make sure there are no voids. Now sprinkle with water. The concrete mix will wick the water you sprayed onto it and most especially from the cavity walls and will set.................and set firm I used this method for years in this northern climate when setting posts for fences, decks and basketball posts and have never run into a problem. I do, however, make sure my holes are set deep enough for my winter climate. Contrary to popular belief, you shouldn't encase PT lumber in concrete. You should instead pour a footing/pier (NOT "footer") then use a Simpson or equal post bracket that get's the PT off of the concrete. Concrete always holds moisture, so exposes the PT lumber to rot. This being said, I do it the way you've mentioned, and my fence has been in place 11 years, not rotted yet. A good trick though, is to use put a couple of 16d nails in the bottom of the post but don't drive them home, leaving about half the nail exposed. This will prevent uplift after the concrete sets. A home inspector will highlight and emphasize the problems of placing PT wood directly into concrete. It will rot out substantially faster than if the wood is attached correctly to a footing. Every home improvement show I have watched has highlighted the dangers of placing PT directly into the dirt of concrete. This site seems to think PT lumber & concrete can work together. http://wilwaylumber.com/howto/howto082.htm same with this one.. http://ak.essortment.com/fencepostinsta_nfm.htm and another.. http://www.theworkshop.net/Tips/htm/...howtobuild.htm Good information. I have never run into long term problems because of sinking PT posts directly into the ground and encasing them with concrete. I wonder how long those galvanized brackets hold up? ;-) |
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Jack Goff wrote: On Thu, 25 May 2006 08:51:44 -0400, DSK wrote: Jack Goff wrote: .... Don't laugh, we consider North Carolinians to be yankees. :-) I know, I lived down there a while You all have "barbecue" which contains rice & mustard.... that should at least get points for originality, I suppose I grew up on mustard-based BBQ. The little local places have the good stuff, not the Maurice Bessinger's crap. But we've gotten worldly now... most places have vinegar and tomato based sauces as well. The rice is for the string hash, not the BBQ. You can't eat BBQ without hash! A goup of us does BBQ at the local hole-in-the-wall every Friday for lunch. Now I can't stop thinking about it! Glad tomorrow is Friday. Got to agree with you about Maurice's! It's really interesting to study BBQ by locality. Here in Atlanta, if you go to a REAL BBQ joint, you'll notice a difference on whether you are east of Atlanta, or west. Farther toward S.C. you get, the more mustard in the sauce. West, you are in Alabama style sauces which are tomato based and thicker than real Georgia types of sauces. Here it has to be Brunswick stew with our BBQ. |
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Don White wrote: Reginald P. Smithers wrote: basskisser wrote: JimH wrote: "Don White" wrote in message ... JimH wrote: The weather looks great for us this Memorial Day weekend and we may take the boat out Saturday and Monday. I also want to give my son some first hand experience to see how stupid some folks can be on the water and figure this will be a great opportunity for it. I will be at the helm as I know how crazy it will probably be. He received his boating safety class certification over the winter by attending the Power Squadron classes and I want to give him some on water time fine tuning instructions before I allow him to take it out on his own. I also plan to take him out (just him and me) next week to go over docking and key features of the boat he needs to know. The nicest day of the weekend (weather wise) is expected to be Sunday but we will be happy being away from the boat that day...........that same son of mine is graduating from High School that day and my daughter will be home for the ceremony and celebratory dinner (that I am cooking). ;-) So what are your plans? Since Sunday should be sunny (maybe), I'll be busy building a pressure treated fence along the east side of my backyard...where my garage was until a couple of weeks ago. This week it's either raining or threatening to rain...tough trying to set 4" x 4" posts in concrete. If the ground is wet just dig out the hole to the appropriate depth for your area, widen out the hole base to form a footer, fill it with 2" of gravel, set the post inside of it and pour in the dry quick set concrete. Use a pole to probe the concrete mix to make sure there are no voids. Now sprinkle with water. The concrete mix will wick the water you sprayed onto it and most especially from the cavity walls and will set.................and set firm I used this method for years in this northern climate when setting posts for fences, decks and basketball posts and have never run into a problem. I do, however, make sure my holes are set deep enough for my winter climate. Contrary to popular belief, you shouldn't encase PT lumber in concrete. You should instead pour a footing/pier (NOT "footer") then use a Simpson or equal post bracket that get's the PT off of the concrete. Concrete always holds moisture, so exposes the PT lumber to rot. This being said, I do it the way you've mentioned, and my fence has been in place 11 years, not rotted yet. A good trick though, is to use put a couple of 16d nails in the bottom of the post but don't drive them home, leaving about half the nail exposed. This will prevent uplift after the concrete sets. A home inspector will highlight and emphasize the problems of placing PT wood directly into concrete. It will rot out substantially faster than if the wood is attached correctly to a footing. Every home improvement show I have watched has highlighted the dangers of placing PT directly into the dirt of concrete. This site seems to think PT lumber & concrete can work together. http://wilwaylumber.com/howto/howto082.htm same with this one.. http://ak.essortment.com/fencepostinsta_nfm.htm and another.. http://www.theworkshop.net/Tips/htm/...howtobuild.htm I don't care what those sites say, Don. It's NOT accepted practice and actually violates most codes. It is COMMON practice, I fully realize, and I do it sometimes myself. My front fence is done that way, and has been for 11 years. It is showing some signs of rot though. My deck around my pool, however, is done properly, that is pour a pier (Sonotube), and float in a Simpson post anchor, which holds the post off of the concrete like this: http://www.strongtie.com/products/co...A-ABE-ABU.html |
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Don White wrote:
Reginald P. Smithers wrote: basskisser wrote: JimH wrote: "Don White" wrote in message ... JimH wrote: The weather looks great for us this Memorial Day weekend and we may take the boat out Saturday and Monday. I also want to give my son some first hand experience to see how stupid some folks can be on the water and figure this will be a great opportunity for it. I will be at the helm as I know how crazy it will probably be. He received his boating safety class certification over the winter by attending the Power Squadron classes and I want to give him some on water time fine tuning instructions before I allow him to take it out on his own. I also plan to take him out (just him and me) next week to go over docking and key features of the boat he needs to know. The nicest day of the weekend (weather wise) is expected to be Sunday but we will be happy being away from the boat that day...........that same son of mine is graduating from High School that day and my daughter will be home for the ceremony and celebratory dinner (that I am cooking). ;-) So what are your plans? Since Sunday should be sunny (maybe), I'll be busy building a pressure treated fence along the east side of my backyard...where my garage was until a couple of weeks ago. This week it's either raining or threatening to rain...tough trying to set 4" x 4" posts in concrete. If the ground is wet just dig out the hole to the appropriate depth for your area, widen out the hole base to form a footer, fill it with 2" of gravel, set the post inside of it and pour in the dry quick set concrete. Use a pole to probe the concrete mix to make sure there are no voids. Now sprinkle with water. The concrete mix will wick the water you sprayed onto it and most especially from the cavity walls and will set.................and set firm I used this method for years in this northern climate when setting posts for fences, decks and basketball posts and have never run into a problem. I do, however, make sure my holes are set deep enough for my winter climate. Contrary to popular belief, you shouldn't encase PT lumber in concrete. You should instead pour a footing/pier (NOT "footer") then use a Simpson or equal post bracket that get's the PT off of the concrete. Concrete always holds moisture, so exposes the PT lumber to rot. This being said, I do it the way you've mentioned, and my fence has been in place 11 years, not rotted yet. A good trick though, is to use put a couple of 16d nails in the bottom of the post but don't drive them home, leaving about half the nail exposed. This will prevent uplift after the concrete sets. A home inspector will highlight and emphasize the problems of placing PT wood directly into concrete. It will rot out substantially faster than if the wood is attached correctly to a footing. Every home improvement show I have watched has highlighted the dangers of placing PT directly into the dirt of concrete. This site seems to think PT lumber & concrete can work together. http://wilwaylumber.com/howto/howto082.htm same with this one.. http://ak.essortment.com/fencepostinsta_nfm.htm and another.. http://www.theworkshop.net/Tips/htm/...howtobuild.htm Don, You know what they say about opinions. Here is another one http://www.decks.com/article15.aspx If you notice, all 3 types of footings recommend keeping water away from the wood. Concrete wicks water very effectively. It appears that the problem with placing PT wood directly in contact with the ground or concrete is there are direct grades of PT, and a varying degree of QC among PT mfg'ers. They have also made changes in PT for consumer consumption. Today, based upon what I think I know, I would keep PT away from dirt and placed into concrete, but that is only my opinion and you know everyone has one. The reason this is important to me, is I had a neighbor who had to replace a 10 yr old deck because the wood was placed into concrete, and then over time, dirt had sat directly against the PT wood. When this happened we were talking about it at a party and someone who works for a real estate law firm, said she has seen this blow a home sale after the home inspection comes in. The buyer wanted to seller to adjust their price for repairs. Here are some examples of why some don't recommend you place pressure treated wood directly against dirt and concrete. http://www.askthebuilder.com/EM0013_...ndations.shtml -- Reggie That's my story and I am sticking to it. |
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On Thu, 25 May 2006 18:32:01 -0400, "RCE" wrote:
Last year at this time on our trip north, we saw quite a few dolphins feeding on the surface in the vicinity of Porposie Banks approx 8 miles SSE of Chincoteague Inlet, and also near the fish haven 5 miles east of Indian River Inlet. Are you coming north this year? It doesn't look likely unless I decide to actually retire in the next month or so. Last year I worked from the boat the whole time we were north. That went OK but limited our cruising time to weekends, and our weekday destinations to harbors with good WiFi and cell phone service. It was getting to be a hassel towards the end but certainly was an interesting way to spend the summer. My wifes parents are also experiencing some health issues and that is keeping us a little closer to home. This year I've already run through most of my vacation time between our February cruise to St Pete Beach and the Everglades, and our Abacos/Bahamas cruise last month. We have lots of good weekend destinations around here and when the hurricane season arrives we'll just hunker down and hope for the best. Our dock is reasonably well protected and if it looks like a seriously bad storm is headed our way I can bail out to the east coast or up river. If things go as planned I'll probably retire next April and will definitely plan to go north again next summer if the price of diesel doesn't go totally hyperbolic and the family situation permits. |
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"Wayne.B" wrote in message ... On Thu, 25 May 2006 18:32:01 -0400, "RCE" wrote: Last year at this time on our trip north, we saw quite a few dolphins feeding on the surface in the vicinity of Porposie Banks approx 8 miles SSE of Chincoteague Inlet, and also near the fish haven 5 miles east of Indian River Inlet. Are you coming north this year? It doesn't look likely unless I decide to actually retire in the next month or so. Last year I worked from the boat the whole time we were north. That went OK but limited our cruising time to weekends, and our weekday destinations to harbors with good WiFi and cell phone service. It was getting to be a hassel towards the end but certainly was an interesting way to spend the summer. My wifes parents are also experiencing some health issues and that is keeping us a little closer to home. This year I've already run through most of my vacation time between our February cruise to St Pete Beach and the Everglades, and our Abacos/Bahamas cruise last month. We have lots of good weekend destinations around here and when the hurricane season arrives we'll just hunker down and hope for the best. Our dock is reasonably well protected and if it looks like a seriously bad storm is headed our way I can bail out to the east coast or up river. If things go as planned I'll probably retire next April and will definitely plan to go north again next summer if the price of diesel doesn't go totally hyperbolic and the family situation permits. Aging parents and their need for additional care is one of the primary reasons we sold in Florida. Both my mother and Mrs.E's mother and father are getting up there in age and have physical handicaps that require more and more assistance from the family. The only problem is that they all live up north and, at least in the case of her parents, would never even consider packing up and moving. Got to admit though. The weather is finally starting to get tolerable up here. RCE |
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On 26 May 2006 04:24:51 -0700, "basskisser"
wrote: Got to agree with you about Maurice's! It's really interesting to study BBQ by locality. Here in Atlanta, if you go to a REAL BBQ joint, you'll notice a difference on whether you are east of Atlanta, or west. Farther toward S.C. you get, the more mustard in the sauce. West, you are in Alabama style sauces which are tomato based and thicker than real Georgia types of sauces. Here it has to be Brunswick stew with our BBQ. My wife's parents are from a small town in south GA, and every time they cook a pig, they make a big pot of Brunswick stew. It's great over rice or bread, with a few dashes of tabasco on it. Their home-made BBQ sauce is mostly tabasco and black pepper with some other stuff. Sort of thin, not sweet, with a good "bite". |
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On Fri, 26 May 2006 14:07:59 -0400, "RCE" wrote:
Got to admit though. The weather is finally starting to get tolerable up here. And when it is nice, both days, it's REALLY nice. Wish we were headed for Cape Cod and the islands right now... :-) My wife's parents moved to Florida before us so we have the reverse issue. |
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On 26 May 2006 04:39:23 -0700, "basskisser" wrote:
JimH wrote: "Don White" wrote in message ... Reginald P. Smithers wrote: basskisser wrote: JimH wrote: "Don White" wrote in message ... JimH wrote: The weather looks great for us this Memorial Day weekend and we may take the boat out Saturday and Monday. I also want to give my son some first hand experience to see how stupid some folks can be on the water and figure this will be a great opportunity for it. I will be at the helm as I know how crazy it will probably be. He received his boating safety class certification over the winter by attending the Power Squadron classes and I want to give him some on water time fine tuning instructions before I allow him to take it out on his own. I also plan to take him out (just him and me) next week to go over docking and key features of the boat he needs to know. The nicest day of the weekend (weather wise) is expected to be Sunday but we will be happy being away from the boat that day...........that same son of mine is graduating from High School that day and my daughter will be home for the ceremony and celebratory dinner (that I am cooking). ;-) So what are your plans? Since Sunday should be sunny (maybe), I'll be busy building a pressure treated fence along the east side of my backyard...where my garage was until a couple of weeks ago. This week it's either raining or threatening to rain...tough trying to set 4" x 4" posts in concrete. If the ground is wet just dig out the hole to the appropriate depth for your area, widen out the hole base to form a footer, fill it with 2" of gravel, set the post inside of it and pour in the dry quick set concrete. Use a pole to probe the concrete mix to make sure there are no voids. Now sprinkle with water. The concrete mix will wick the water you sprayed onto it and most especially from the cavity walls and will set.................and set firm I used this method for years in this northern climate when setting posts for fences, decks and basketball posts and have never run into a problem. I do, however, make sure my holes are set deep enough for my winter climate. Contrary to popular belief, you shouldn't encase PT lumber in concrete. You should instead pour a footing/pier (NOT "footer") then use a Simpson or equal post bracket that get's the PT off of the concrete. Concrete always holds moisture, so exposes the PT lumber to rot. This being said, I do it the way you've mentioned, and my fence has been in place 11 years, not rotted yet. A good trick though, is to use put a couple of 16d nails in the bottom of the post but don't drive them home, leaving about half the nail exposed. This will prevent uplift after the concrete sets. A home inspector will highlight and emphasize the problems of placing PT wood directly into concrete. It will rot out substantially faster than if the wood is attached correctly to a footing. Every home improvement show I have watched has highlighted the dangers of placing PT directly into the dirt of concrete. This site seems to think PT lumber & concrete can work together. http://wilwaylumber.com/howto/howto082.htm same with this one.. http://ak.essortment.com/fencepostinsta_nfm.htm and another.. http://www.theworkshop.net/Tips/htm/...howtobuild.htm Good information. I have never run into long term problems because of sinking PT posts directly into the ground and encasing them with concrete. I wonder how long those galvanized brackets hold up? ;-) Virtually forever. I've seen galvanized brackets 30 years old still working fine. My posts that are encased in concrete are beginning to show signs of rot. PT posts encased in concrete also violates most codes. Also, if the post is sitting on the ground, then concrete poured around it, the wood shrinks and swells so that the concrete isn't really gripping (skin friction = 0), and the post's contact area with the ground is the only portion resisting axial load. That isn't much on a fence, but it is on a deck! Again, I do it for fences, but not for decks. That doesn't make it acceptable practice!! For decks, the code in this county requires concrete footings with a galvanized bracket. For fences, there are no mandated requirements. I put sackcrete in the hole for the corner posts and gate posts, and I'll let the new owners worry about replacing them. -- 'Til next time, John H ****************************************** ***** Have a Spectacular Day! ***** ****************************************** |
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"Wayne.B" wrote in message ... On Fri, 26 May 2006 14:07:59 -0400, "RCE" wrote: Got to admit though. The weather is finally starting to get tolerable up here. And when it is nice, both days, it's REALLY nice. Wish we were headed for Cape Cod and the islands right now... :-) My wife's parents moved to Florida before us so we have the reverse issue. My mother would move in a flash. She spent some time with us in Florida and last winter she stayed with her younger sister in Archer for 3 months last winter. Ever been to Archer? There's nothing there. My wife's parents are old school Italians. They've lived in the same house for over 50 years now, after moving once from Somerville to the suburbs back in the late 50's. Their house is their castle and wouldn't leave for anything. RCE |
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basskisser wrote:
Don White wrote: Reginald P. Smithers wrote: basskisser wrote: JimH wrote: "Don White" wrote in message ... JimH wrote: The weather looks great for us this Memorial Day weekend and we may take the boat out Saturday and Monday. I also want to give my son some first hand experience to see how stupid some folks can be on the water and figure this will be a great opportunity for it. I will be at the helm as I know how crazy it will probably be. He received his boating safety class certification over the winter by attending the Power Squadron classes and I want to give him some on water time fine tuning instructions before I allow him to take it out on his own. I also plan to take him out (just him and me) next week to go over docking and key features of the boat he needs to know. The nicest day of the weekend (weather wise) is expected to be Sunday but we will be happy being away from the boat that day...........that same son of mine is graduating from High School that day and my daughter will be home for the ceremony and celebratory dinner (that I am cooking). ;-) So what are your plans? Since Sunday should be sunny (maybe), I'll be busy building a pressure treated fence along the east side of my backyard...where my garage was until a couple of weeks ago. This week it's either raining or threatening to rain...tough trying to set 4" x 4" posts in concrete. If the ground is wet just dig out the hole to the appropriate depth for your area, widen out the hole base to form a footer, fill it with 2" of gravel, set the post inside of it and pour in the dry quick set concrete. Use a pole to probe the concrete mix to make sure there are no voids. Now sprinkle with water. The concrete mix will wick the water you sprayed onto it and most especially from the cavity walls and will set.................and set firm I used this method for years in this northern climate when setting posts for fences, decks and basketball posts and have never run into a problem. I do, however, make sure my holes are set deep enough for my winter climate. Contrary to popular belief, you shouldn't encase PT lumber in concrete. You should instead pour a footing/pier (NOT "footer") then use a Simpson or equal post bracket that get's the PT off of the concrete. Concrete always holds moisture, so exposes the PT lumber to rot. This being said, I do it the way you've mentioned, and my fence has been in place 11 years, not rotted yet. A good trick though, is to use put a couple of 16d nails in the bottom of the post but don't drive them home, leaving about half the nail exposed. This will prevent uplift after the concrete sets. A home inspector will highlight and emphasize the problems of placing PT wood directly into concrete. It will rot out substantially faster than if the wood is attached correctly to a footing. Every home improvement show I have watched has highlighted the dangers of placing PT directly into the dirt of concrete. This site seems to think PT lumber & concrete can work together. http://wilwaylumber.com/howto/howto082.htm same with this one.. http://ak.essortment.com/fencepostinsta_nfm.htm and another.. http://www.theworkshop.net/Tips/htm/...howtobuild.htm I don't care what those sites say, Don. It's NOT accepted practice and actually violates most codes. It is COMMON practice, I fully realize, and I do it sometimes myself. My front fence is done that way, and has been for 11 years. It is showing some signs of rot though. My deck around my pool, however, is done properly, that is pour a pier (Sonotube), and float in a Simpson post anchor, which holds the post off of the concrete like this: http://www.strongtie.com/products/co...A-ABE-ABU.html That base requires an anchor bolt in the concrete. Here is one for an embedded application: http://www.strongtie.com/products/co...rs/PB-PBS.html The non-embedded variety allows for minor corrections in any direction. Dan |
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basskisser wrote:
JimH wrote: "Don White" wrote in message ... Reginald P. Smithers wrote: basskisser wrote: JimH wrote: "Don White" wrote in message ... JimH wrote: The weather looks great for us this Memorial Day weekend and we may take the boat out Saturday and Monday. I also want to give my son some first hand experience to see how stupid some folks can be on the water and figure this will be a great opportunity for it. I will be at the helm as I know how crazy it will probably be. He received his boating safety class certification over the winter by attending the Power Squadron classes and I want to give him some on water time fine tuning instructions before I allow him to take it out on his own. I also plan to take him out (just him and me) next week to go over docking and key features of the boat he needs to know. The nicest day of the weekend (weather wise) is expected to be Sunday but we will be happy being away from the boat that day...........that same son of mine is graduating from High School that day and my daughter will be home for the ceremony and celebratory dinner (that I am cooking). ;-) So what are your plans? Since Sunday should be sunny (maybe), I'll be busy building a pressure treated fence along the east side of my backyard...where my garage was until a couple of weeks ago. This week it's either raining or threatening to rain...tough trying to set 4" x 4" posts in concrete. If the ground is wet just dig out the hole to the appropriate depth for your area, widen out the hole base to form a footer, fill it with 2" of gravel, set the post inside of it and pour in the dry quick set concrete. Use a pole to probe the concrete mix to make sure there are no voids. Now sprinkle with water. The concrete mix will wick the water you sprayed onto it and most especially from the cavity walls and will set.................and set firm I used this method for years in this northern climate when setting posts for fences, decks and basketball posts and have never run into a problem. I do, however, make sure my holes are set deep enough for my winter climate. Contrary to popular belief, you shouldn't encase PT lumber in concrete. You should instead pour a footing/pier (NOT "footer") then use a Simpson or equal post bracket that get's the PT off of the concrete. Concrete always holds moisture, so exposes the PT lumber to rot. This being said, I do it the way you've mentioned, and my fence has been in place 11 years, not rotted yet. A good trick though, is to use put a couple of 16d nails in the bottom of the post but don't drive them home, leaving about half the nail exposed. This will prevent uplift after the concrete sets. A home inspector will highlight and emphasize the problems of placing PT wood directly into concrete. It will rot out substantially faster than if the wood is attached correctly to a footing. Every home improvement show I have watched has highlighted the dangers of placing PT directly into the dirt of concrete. This site seems to think PT lumber & concrete can work together. http://wilwaylumber.com/howto/howto082.htm same with this one.. http://ak.essortment.com/fencepostinsta_nfm.htm and another.. http://www.theworkshop.net/Tips/htm/...howtobuild.htm Good information. I have never run into long term problems because of sinking PT posts directly into the ground and encasing them with concrete. I wonder how long those galvanized brackets hold up? ;-) Virtually forever. I've seen galvanized brackets 30 years old still working fine. My posts that are encased in concrete are beginning to show signs of rot. PT posts encased in concrete also violates most codes. Also, if the post is sitting on the ground, then concrete poured around it, the wood shrinks and swells so that the concrete isn't really gripping (skin friction = 0), and the post's contact area with the ground is the only portion resisting axial load. That isn't much on a fence, but it is on a deck! Again, I do it for fences, but not for decks. That doesn't make it acceptable practice!! That used to be true. A few years ago, treated lumber changed from CCA to ACQ for environmental reasons. ACQ is tough on steel even if it is lightly galvanized. In order to get the same, long term, performance you will have to spend the extra bucks and go with a product with more zinc or stainless steel. Since you are looking at Simpson, they have their "ZMax" for ACQ applications. I lost 285' of shadowbox fence in last year's hurricane and have had to look at that damn orange temporary fence for several months now. Since I'm "in the business" the new fence will have all stainless steel fasteners. As to the the concrete debate, I have talked to several people and they recommend applying a light coat of roofing cement to the portion that will be in the concrete. Construction starts tomorrow! Dan |
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