Hi group. I figured I would post this here since it always seems usenet
people are good at sharing information and experiences.

10 years ago I was planning to get a kayak with a friend of mine but we
never got around to it. He had some friends who regularly paddled
around lake powell and in south texas along padre island. Now that I am
living in a condo on the beach in connecticut I noticed a couple other
tenants with kayaks on their porches. I thought it might be fun to give
it a try. I just wanted to ask if anyone had any pointers they would
like to share with someone in my place. I m not athletic but I am not
in really bad shape either so I didnt know if that would factor too
much. Where I would be boating is in long island sound and some rivers
and estuaries around where I live so the biggest waves I would see
would be on the sound. The water is usually cold. Also, I have a pretty
big porch so I didnt know if a 12 foot would be ok or if i needed
something bigger. Transportation wouldnt be an issue except to get it
to my place since I only have a jeep.

Thanks in advance for any replies

echinacea wrote:
Hi group. I figured I would post this here since it always seems usenet
people are good at sharing information and experiences.

I have it on good authority that those who are knowledgable are afraid
to post, but I'm not.

10 years ago I was planning to get a kayak with a friend of mine but we
never got around to it. He had some friends who regularly paddled
around lake powell and in south texas along padre island. Now that I am
living in a condo on the beach in connecticut I noticed a couple other
tenants with kayaks on their porches. I thought it might be fun to give
it a try. I just wanted to ask if anyone had any pointers they would
like to share with someone in my place.

If it was me, I would approach the tenants with kayaks and strike up a
conversation about their boats, I'm sure they would be more than happy
to discuss kayaking. You may find someone who would let you take their
kayak for a little spin.

I m not athletic but I am not
in really bad shape either so I didnt know if that would factor too
much. Where I would be boating is in long island sound and some rivers
and estuaries around where I live so the biggest waves I would see
would be on the sound.

My wife is not in shape (checks over shoulder to make sure she's not
around) and she does just fine for the type of kayaks we own and the
conditions we paddle in. She never turns down a chance to go out on the
water.

The water is usually cold. Also, I have a pretty
big porch so I didnt know if a 12 foot would be ok or if i needed
something bigger. Transportation wouldnt be an issue except to get it
to my place since I only have a jeep.

I'm not an expert but I'll tell you what I can, we have recreational
kayaks and use them on calm, semi-sheltered lakes and slow moving
rivers. We use them for fishing, sightseeing, etc. Last week we paddled
upriver to a local diner for lunch. Mine is 12' and hers is 9'6". We
haul both of them on a Honda CR-V. I believe you'll find folks that
haul the longest sea kayaks on the smallest of cars so I see no problem
with your Jeep. The best advice I can give and I'm sure other will
agree is to demo before you buy. Many places have "demo-days",
sometimes attended by factory reps. Don't be shy, ask lots of questions
and try out a few. I'm not sure how far away they are from you, but
Collinsville Canoe & Kayak in Collinsville CT. just had demo-days last
week. They also have demo kayaks to use and rentals. See
http://www.cckstore.com/. According to their website they have demos
of most of the boats they stock. .


Also, don't be tempted to buy your kayak at a place that also sells
tampons (if you get my drift).

You can read reviews online at http://www.paddling.net/Reviews/

HTH.

"Sees-koo-wee-hah-nay" wrote in
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echinacea wrote:
Hi group. I figured I would post this here since it always seems usenet
people are good at sharing information and experiences.

I have it on good authority that those who are knowledgable are afraid
to post, but I'm not.

10 years ago I was planning to get a kayak with a friend of mine but we
never got around to it. He had some friends who regularly paddled
around lake powell and in south texas along padre island. Now that I am
living in a condo on the beach in connecticut I noticed a couple other
tenants with kayaks on their porches. I thought it might be fun to give
it a try. I just wanted to ask if anyone had any pointers they would
like to share with someone in my place.

If it was me, I would approach the tenants with kayaks and strike up a
conversation about their boats, I'm sure they would be more than happy
to discuss kayaking. You may find someone who would let you take their
kayak for a little spin.

Good suggestion. It would also provide an opportunity to find someone else
to paddle with.


I m not athletic but I am not
in really bad shape either so I didnt know if that would factor too
much. Where I would be boating is in long island sound and some rivers
and estuaries around where I live so the biggest waves I would see
would be on the sound.

I wouldn't underestimate the conditions you might encounter in the sound.
Don't assume that because it's not the ocean that it will be easier. On the
ocean, once outside the surf zone, the waves might be big but the period
between them is long and the faces are not steep. Conditions are generally
more difficult when there are more smaller waves and/or when they're
breaking. Add reflective surface near shorelines can cause wave to go in
multiple directions, shallower waters that cause waves to break, currents
flowing through constricted areas, and dodging motorboat traffic and you can
get conditions much more difficult to deal with than found off the coast.


My wife is not in shape (checks over shoulder to make sure she's not
around) and she does just fine for the type of kayaks we own and the
conditions we paddle in. She never turns down a chance to go out on the
water.

The water is usually cold. Also, I have a pretty
big porch so I didnt know if a 12 foot would be ok or if i needed
something bigger. Transportation wouldnt be an issue except to get it
to my place since I only have a jeep.

I'm not an expert but I'll tell you what I can, we have recreational
kayaks and use them on calm, semi-sheltered lakes and slow moving
rivers. We use them for fishing, sightseeing, etc. Last week we paddled
upriver to a local diner for lunch. Mine is 12' and hers is 9'6". We
haul both of them on a Honda CR-V. I believe you'll find folks that
haul the longest sea kayaks on the smallest of cars so I see no problem
with your Jeep.

I've seen a mini cooper with two full size touring boats on it so the OP
ought be transport kayaks on a jeep easily enough.


The best advice I can give and I'm sure other will
agree is to demo before you buy. Many places have "demo-days",
sometimes attended by factory reps.

Absolutely. I also suggest trying a few models which might be outside the
range of boats you *think* you'll want to get. You can't really make a good
comparison of different models/styles unless you try something at the higher
end.

Don't be shy, ask lots of questions
and try out a few. I'm not sure how far away they are from you, but
Collinsville Canoe & Kayak in Collinsville CT. just had demo-days last
week. They also have demo kayaks to use and rentals. See
http://www.cckstore.com/. According to their website they have demos
of most of the boats they stock. .


Also, don't be tempted to buy your kayak at a place that also sells
tampons (if you get my drift).

You can read reviews online at http://www.paddling.net/Reviews/

I would take the reviews on paddling.net with a grain of salt. Most of them
are written by people that own the boats that they are reviewing and tend to
be overwhelingly favorable.

John Fereira wrote:
"Sees-koo-wee-hah-nay" wrote in
oups.com:
snip

You can read reviews online at http://www.paddling.net/Reviews/

I would take the reviews on paddling.net with a grain of salt. Most of them
are written by people that own the boats that they are reviewing and tend to
be overwhelingly favorable.

Yes, I know what you mean, no one wants to spend $900 on a kayak and
then say it sucks, but if you read what they are saying and not what
they are rating it as, you can get an idea of what's what. I've seen
reviews where people say brand X doesn't track well or the seat sucks
and then rate it a 9 or 10!

I carry a 16 ft canoe on top of my Wrangler with a soft top. I put on a
safari rack and added Yakima load bars. It is good, steady and secure. I
have carried a little pirogue I built on the roll bar and windsheild but
that was only a really short distance and low speeds down to the
neighborhood pond to see if it leaked.
"echinacea" wrote in message
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Hi group. I figured I would post this here since it always seems usenet
people are good at sharing information and experiences.

10 years ago I was planning to get a kayak with a friend of mine but we
never got around to it. He had some friends who regularly paddled
around lake powell and in south texas along padre island. Now that I am
living in a condo on the beach in connecticut I noticed a couple other
tenants with kayaks on their porches. I thought it might be fun to give
it a try. I just wanted to ask if anyone had any pointers they would
like to share with someone in my place. I m not athletic but I am not
in really bad shape either so I didnt know if that would factor too
much. Where I would be boating is in long island sound and some rivers
and estuaries around where I live so the biggest waves I would see
would be on the sound. The water is usually cold. Also, I have a pretty
big porch so I didnt know if a 12 foot would be ok or if i needed
something bigger. Transportation wouldnt be an issue except to get it
to my place since I only have a jeep.

Thanks in advance for any replies

A good source of information for those new to paddling is www.paddling.net .

My friends (4 of them) just got new modular 3 piece 16' NDK Romany sea
kayaks. They are planning a trip to Patagonia and want good boats for the
trip. Outfitters in Chile are a bit limited. This approach gives you
flexibility in both storing and transporting kayaks. You can put the pieces
together in under 5 minutes. While you may or may not not want to start by
making that level of investment it is an option you should explore if you
continue with the sport.

Finally a kayak could be hung in your living room, or bedroom, as a piece of
art. I have a friend who has 5 kayaks and hangs several of them on the walls
of his apartment. May sound a bit crazy but many people enjoy looking at the
lines of a nicely made kayak. Most people wind up hanging something on the
walls of their home, condo or apartment so why not make it a kayak if you do
not have a garage.

"echinacea" wrote in message
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Hi group. I figured I would post this here since it always seems usenet
people are good at sharing information and experiences.

10 years ago I was planning to get a kayak with a friend of mine but we
never got around to it. He had some friends who regularly paddled
around lake powell and in south texas along padre island. Now that I am
living in a condo on the beach in connecticut I noticed a couple other
tenants with kayaks on their porches. I thought it might be fun to give
it a try. I just wanted to ask if anyone had any pointers they would
like to share with someone in my place. I m not athletic but I am not
in really bad shape either so I didnt know if that would factor too
much. Where I would be boating is in long island sound and some rivers
and estuaries around where I live so the biggest waves I would see
would be on the sound. The water is usually cold. Also, I have a pretty
big porch so I didnt know if a 12 foot would be ok or if i needed
something bigger. Transportation wouldnt be an issue except to get it
to my place since I only have a jeep.

Thanks in advance for any replies

Google up kayaking clubs in your area. Maybe find the American Canoe
Association website and see if they have a list of affiliate clubs that
concentrate on sea-kayakind (aka "ocean kayaking", aka "touring
kayaking").

An example, not far from you (Providence) is the Rhode Island Canoe and
Kayaking Ass'n. (http://www.ricka.org/). I joined years ago to get
their newsletter, because the editor, Alan August, was a whitewater
paddling buddy of mine, but I discovered that most of their members are
sea-kayakers.

Clubs are great because members let each other try out their boats,
they conduct training and rolling classes, and, most of all, because
they schedule group paddling trips whereon you can absorb the lore from
experienced paddlers knowing that if you get into trouble help is right
nearby. The downside is that you must usually provide a boat to
participate in their activities, but even that -- participating in
several trips using a different rented boat each time -- can be a good
way to get started.

-Richard, His Kanubic Travesty
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echinacea wrote:
Hi group. I figured I would post this here since it always seems usenet
people are good at sharing information and experiences.

10 years ago I was planning to get a kayak with a friend of mine but we
never got around to it. He had some friends who regularly paddled
around lake powell and in south texas along padre island. Now that I am
living in a condo on the beach in connecticut I noticed a couple other
tenants with kayaks on their porches. I thought it might be fun to give
it a try. I just wanted to ask if anyone had any pointers they would
like to share with someone in my place. I m not athletic but I am not
in really bad shape either so I didnt know if that would factor too
much. Where I would be boating is in long island sound and some rivers
and estuaries around where I live so the biggest waves I would see
would be on the sound. The water is usually cold. Also, I have a pretty
big porch so I didnt know if a 12 foot would be ok or if i needed
something bigger. Transportation wouldnt be an issue except to get it
to my place since I only have a jeep.

Thanks in advance for any replies