"RG" wrote in message
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Cool. Now I'll get Stalin-esque. Slap an enormous, annual tax on trucks,
unless an owner can show that he actually has a purpose for it, other
than "I just wanted a Dodge with a hemi so I could hang chrome
accessories on it". No trailer registered to the same owner, meaning he
tows nothing? He gets taxed. Not in a profession which actually requires
a truck, like carpenters & landscapers? He gets taxed. If a doctor
decides to become a plumber, there are ways of giving him back his
surcharge in future years. No more buying a huge truck just because every
4 years, you need to bring home a bale of peat moss.

Get it still, you don't. Trying to accomplish this change through
governmental taxation will only result in animosity and non-compliance.
Not to mention the fact that you'd never get Congress to agree on an
approach. Accomplishing it through a high cost of ownership due to high
fuel bills and wicked depreciation will happen with Congress doing what it
does best...nothing. The market always works...eventually. Trust the
force, Luke.



What do you do about the terminally stupid who can't understand cause and
effect?

"Doug Kanter" wrote in message
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"RG" wrote in message
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Cool. Now I'll get Stalin-esque. Slap an enormous, annual tax on trucks,
unless an owner can show that he actually has a purpose for it, other
than "I just wanted a Dodge with a hemi so I could hang chrome
accessories on it". No trailer registered to the same owner, meaning he
tows nothing? He gets taxed. Not in a profession which actually requires
a truck, like carpenters & landscapers? He gets taxed. If a doctor
decides to become a plumber, there are ways of giving him back his
surcharge in future years. No more buying a huge truck just because
every 4 years, you need to bring home a bale of peat moss.

Get it still, you don't. Trying to accomplish this change through
governmental taxation will only result in animosity and non-compliance.
Not to mention the fact that you'd never get Congress to agree on an
approach. Accomplishing it through a high cost of ownership due to high
fuel bills and wicked depreciation will happen with Congress doing what
it does best...nothing. The market always works...eventually. Trust the
force, Luke.



What do you do about the terminally stupid who can't understand cause and
effect?


Learn to live with them (us).

RCE

Get it still, you don't. Trying to accomplish this change through
governmental taxation will only result in animosity and non-compliance.
Not to mention the fact that you'd never get Congress to agree on an
approach. Accomplishing it through a high cost of ownership due to high
fuel bills and wicked depreciation will happen with Congress doing what
it does best...nothing. The market always works...eventually. Trust the
force, Luke.



What do you do about the terminally stupid who can't understand cause and
effect?

Well eventually, the terminally part of your description will become
operative. In the meantime, let them pay through the nose. But when it
costs $200 to fill up the tank of their truck, do you really think even the
dimmest bulb won't get a clue? That level of witlessness is not typically
found in the company of unlimited financial resources.

"RG" wrote in message
m...
Get it still, you don't. Trying to accomplish this change through
governmental taxation will only result in animosity and non-compliance.
Not to mention the fact that you'd never get Congress to agree on an
approach. Accomplishing it through a high cost of ownership due to high
fuel bills and wicked depreciation will happen with Congress doing what
it does best...nothing. The market always works...eventually. Trust
the force, Luke.



What do you do about the terminally stupid who can't understand cause and
effect?

Well eventually, the terminally part of your description will become
operative. In the meantime, let them pay through the nose. But when it
costs $200 to fill up the tank of their truck, do you really think even
the dimmest bulb won't get a clue? That level of witlessness is not
typically found in the company of unlimited financial resources.



Meanwhile, they're part of a problem that this country MUST deal with.
That's why I see nothing wrong with gently leading them by the nose.
Hell....there are still billboards addressing smoking, DWI and domestic
violence. They may not be the greatest thing since bait vending machines, as
far as getting a message across, but I think they achieve more than nothing.

Meanwhile, they're part of a problem that this country MUST deal with.
That's why I see nothing wrong with gently leading them by the nose.
Hell....there are still billboards addressing smoking, DWI and domestic
violence. They may not be the greatest thing since bait vending machines,
as far as getting a message across, but I think they achieve more than
nothing.

You appear to be looking for 100% compliance. Essentially every man, woman
and child marching in lockstep toward your vision. Can you recall any other
social movement that achieved that level of acceptance? Perhaps you need to
ratchet down your expectations a notch. A trend is probably the best that
can be hoped for. Humanity is a diverse lot. It's our burden and our
blessing.

"RG" wrote in message
. ..

Meanwhile, they're part of a problem that this country MUST deal with.
That's why I see nothing wrong with gently leading them by the nose.
Hell....there are still billboards addressing smoking, DWI and domestic
violence. They may not be the greatest thing since bait vending machines,
as far as getting a message across, but I think they achieve more than
nothing.

You appear to be looking for 100% compliance. Essentially every man,
woman and child marching in lockstep toward your vision. Can you recall
any other social movement that achieved that level of acceptance? Perhaps
you need to ratchet down your expectations a notch. A trend is probably
the best that can be hoped for. Humanity is a diverse lot. It's our
burden and our blessing.



Recycling's got extremely high compliance, if you believe the numerous
surveys that's been done over the years. That trend took 20-30 years to
reach current levels.

Recycling's got extremely high compliance, if you believe the numerous
surveys that's been done over the years. That trend took 20-30 years to
reach current levels.

Precisely. 20-30 years just to get people to put one kind of garbage in one
receptacle and another type of garbage in a different one. I'm thinking
Americans never really had a love affair with their garbage or how they
disposed of it. But they damn sure have one with their cars. Can you
imagine how much more difficult it will be to effect change on car buying
habits than it was with how they handle their trash?

"RG" wrote in message
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Recycling's got extremely high compliance, if you believe the numerous
surveys that's been done over the years. That trend took 20-30 years to
reach current levels.

Precisely. 20-30 years just to get people to put one kind of garbage in
one receptacle and another type of garbage in a different one. I'm
thinking Americans never really had a love affair with their garbage or
how they disposed of it. But they damn sure have one with their cars.
Can you imagine how much more difficult it will be to effect change on car
buying habits than it was with how they handle their trash?


Some people had a love affair with working in the textile biz. That's
history. When's the last time you were able to find a dress shirt made in
this country? I don't mean a custom made shirt - I mean a pile of shirts, in
packages, in a store. Change is a bitch. Oh well.

"Doug Kanter" wrote in message
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"RG" wrote in message
m...
Get it still, you don't. Trying to accomplish this change through
governmental taxation will only result in animosity and non-compliance.
Not to mention the fact that you'd never get Congress to agree on an
approach. Accomplishing it through a high cost of ownership due to high
fuel bills and wicked depreciation will happen with Congress doing what
it does best...nothing. The market always works...eventually. Trust
the force, Luke.



What do you do about the terminally stupid who can't understand cause
and effect?

Well eventually, the terminally part of your description will become
operative. In the meantime, let them pay through the nose. But when it
costs $200 to fill up the tank of their truck, do you really think even
the dimmest bulb won't get a clue? That level of witlessness is not
typically found in the company of unlimited financial resources.



Meanwhile, they're part of a problem that this country MUST deal with.
That's why I see nothing wrong with gently leading them by the nose.

Gently leading too many people by the nose will only get you a handful of
snot.

RCE

Gently leading too many people by the nose will only get you a handful of
snot.


At this point, one can only wonder what the BTU rating of refined snot might
be. Is it possible we could sneeze our way to energy independence?