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If you personally have the ability to influence one of those factors,
and you are bothered by rising prices, do you think it makes no sense
at all to do your part to effect a change? I'm curious, because I'll
bet you call yourself patriotic.


*Effect* a change?

Yes. It's correct.

I did not say otherwise. I used the *'s for emphasis.




You start. Sell your boat, cars and other equipment powered by gasoline
engines. Let us know when are done with that simple task.


Another giant of a thinker. Where in this discussion do you think I
suggested that people get rid of their vehicles? Find the text and
present it as evidence of your conclusion.


You made no such proposal. I made one to you however.

You want to effect a change. Go ahead and start by doing what I
suggested. ;-)


Since this country, for the most part, is in the dark ages in terms of city
design and transportation, it would obviously be impossible for us to get
rid of cars completely.

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If you personally have the ability to influence one of those factors,
and you are bothered by rising prices, do you think it makes no sense
at all to do your part to effect a change? I'm curious, because I'll
bet you call yourself patriotic.


*Effect* a change?

Yes. It's correct.

I did not say otherwise. I used the *'s for emphasis.




You start. Sell your boat, cars and other equipment powered by
gasoline engines. Let us know when are done with that simple task.


Another giant of a thinker. Where in this discussion do you think I
suggested that people get rid of their vehicles? Find the text and
present it as evidence of your conclusion.


You made no such proposal. I made one to you however.

You want to effect a change. Go ahead and start by doing what I
suggested. ;-)


Since this country, for the most part, is in the dark ages in terms of
city design and transportation, it would obviously be impossible for us to
get rid of cars completely.


Perhaps, but then again we could also start riding horses again.

But as was asked earlier of you..........do you really need that boat and
lawn tractor? How about the snow blower?

Come on Doug, do you want to effect a change or not? You have to lead by
setting an example.

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Come on Doug, do you want to effect a change or not? You have to lead by
setting an example.





Go play stupid with someone else. Maybe your stapler is interested.

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Come on Doug, do you want to effect a change or not? You have to lead
by setting an example.





Go play stupid with someone else. Maybe your stapler is interested.


Personal attacks and insults only show you have nothing left to argue with.

Now I could call you a bleeding heart hypocrite who wants everyone else but
himself to change...........but I won't. ;-)

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"Doug Kanter" wrote in message
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" JimH" jimh_osudad@yahooDOT comREMOVETHIS wrote in message
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Come on Doug, do you want to effect a change or not? You have to lead
by setting an example.





Go play stupid with someone else. Maybe your stapler is interested.


Personal attacks and insults only show you have nothing left to argue
with.

Now I could call you a bleeding heart hypocrite who wants everyone else
but himself to change...........but I won't. ;-)


What makes you think I haven't? Oh...wait. I forgot. You're asking the
impossible: Everyone should get rid of their cars. But, it was already
explained to you that because of the nature of our society, that would be
impossible, except in cities where people are already accustomed to using
mass transportation. So, never mind. This is too tricky a concept for you.

"Doug Kanter" wrote in message
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Come on Doug, do you want to effect a change or not? You have to lead
by setting an example.





Go play stupid with someone else. Maybe your stapler is interested.


Personal attacks and insults only show you have nothing left to argue
with.

Now I could call you a bleeding heart hypocrite who wants everyone else
but himself to change...........but I won't. ;-)


What makes you think I haven't?


So did you sell your boat to lead by example?

BTW: What do you drive? What does your wife drive?

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Come on Doug, do you want to effect a change or not? You have to
lead by setting an example.





Go play stupid with someone else. Maybe your stapler is interested.


Personal attacks and insults only show you have nothing left to argue
with.

Now I could call you a bleeding heart hypocrite who wants everyone else
but himself to change...........but I won't. ;-)


What makes you think I haven't?


So did you sell your boat to lead by example?

BTW: What do you drive? What does your wife drive?


I drive a 6-cylinder Totota pickup, about 30 miles per week. My ex drives a
Subaru 4-cylinder.