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Again, stolen from another NG, the following is a portion of an article
published in the "Economist".

It seems to refute some of the Peak Oil doom and gloom arguments.

The hell with "the peak". How about just doing our part to lower prices?
Or, are Americans too friggin' busy, lazy or stupid to make the effort?


Like the Meatloaf song from the '70's says, "2 out of 3 ain't bad." ---
humor

"Bryan" wrote in message
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"Doug Kanter" wrote in message
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"RCE" wrote in message
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Again, stolen from another NG, the following is a portion of an article
published in the "Economist".

It seems to refute some of the Peak Oil doom and gloom arguments.

The hell with "the peak". How about just doing our part to lower prices?
Or, are Americans too friggin' busy, lazy or stupid to make the effort?


Like the Meatloaf song from the '70's says, "2 out of 3 ain't bad." ---
humor


The real problem is one of religion, Bryan. In this great country, cars
occupy almost mythical status in the mind of the consumer. Point out a bad
purchase decision and it generates a level of animosity that makes the
Catholic/Protestant dispute in N. Ireland look like a friendly game of "go
fish". I'm not aware of any other product like this.

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The real problem is one of religion, Bryan. In this great country, cars
occupy almost mythical status in the mind of the consumer.

And I see absolutely nothing wrong with that. It's part of the American
culture.

This is the alternative:

http://www.thatvideosite.com/view/2052.html


RCE

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The real problem is one of religion, Bryan. In this great country, cars
occupy almost mythical status in the mind of the consumer.

And I see absolutely nothing wrong with that. It's part of the American
culture.

You've just proven my point. "Someone else can deal with the problem. I'm
too busy or stupid".

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The real problem is one of religion, Bryan. In this great country, cars
occupy almost mythical status in the mind of the consumer.

And I see absolutely nothing wrong with that. It's part of the American
culture.

You've just proven my point. "Someone else can deal with the problem. I'm
too busy or stupid".


If I truly believed that a 40 mpg hybrid in every garage would solve the
problem, I'd listen.
But, I am of the belief that they won't. They are a nothing but an
admirable but symbolic gesture in the bigger scheme of things, IMOH. I
respect those that feel good about themselves owning and driving one, but to
think they are making a significant difference is being blind-sighted.

You know, everytime something that our culture traditionally enjoys is found
to be bad for the environment or is wasteful or is deemed not appropriate by
some, the answer is to ban them.

Why not investigate ways that they can continue to be enjoyed by those that
do while addressing the offending problems?

RCE

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The real problem is one of religion, Bryan. In this great country, cars
occupy almost mythical status in the mind of the consumer.

And I see absolutely nothing wrong with that. It's part of the American
culture.

You've just proven my point. "Someone else can deal with the problem.
I'm too busy or stupid".


If I truly believed that a 40 mpg hybrid in every garage would solve the
problem, I'd listen.
But, I am of the belief that they won't. They are a nothing but an
admirable but symbolic gesture in the bigger scheme of things, IMOH. I
respect those that feel good about themselves owning and driving one, but
to think they are making a significant difference is being blind-sighted.

You know, everytime something that our culture traditionally enjoys is
found to be bad for the environment or is wasteful or is deemed not
appropriate by some, the answer is to ban them.

Why not investigate ways that they can continue to be enjoyed by those
that do while addressing the offending problems?

RCE


Here's a radical idea: How about a president who makes it his hobby to tell
people he trusts them to make changes? Our grandparents made sacrifices
during WWII. There were no Victory Garden police walking around checking
back yards.

As far as the 40 mpg hybrids you keep mentioning, you need to stop that.
According to two people I know who own them, Escalades get 12-14 mpg on a
good day. A Camry or an Impala get numbers in the high 20s - low 30s. I
wasn't a math whiz in high school, so please correct me if I'm wrong, but I
*think* that's about twice the gas mileage of an Escalade.

"Doug Kanter" wrote in message
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As far as the 40 mpg hybrids you keep mentioning, you need to stop that.
According to two people I know who own them, Escalades get 12-14 mpg on a
good day. A Camry or an Impala get numbers in the high 20s - low 30s. I
wasn't a math whiz in high school, so please correct me if I'm wrong, but
I *think* that's about twice the gas mileage of an Escalade.




A 40 mpg hybrid, a Camry or an Impala are not suitable to tow a 5000 lb boat
to the launch site.
A F-350 diesel pickup that gets 16-18 mpg is, among many other uses.

RCE