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![]() Ok, I wasn't going to tell this story but now I'm looking for ideas so I guess I'll tell the story too. There is a quesion at the bottom about ECSROW or other ideas...for those that want to skip the story. I haven't been frequenting here (rec. boats) much in the past 12 months or so. But some of you may remember me. My family and I restored a 1957 Chris Craft and in that process...and the two boats I had before that...I asked many questions here and got a bunch of good answers. So anyway, we finally got the boat done and in the water in 2004. We used her in 2004 and in 2005. But we suspected that the engine was no up to 100%. Considering that we've put so much work into restoring the boat, last fall we decided that we might as well do the last major thing that we could think of, which was having the engine rebuilt. We considered repowering but ruled it out. Mostly because we wanted to keep the original (or at least the same model) engine in such a classic boat. Also, repowering would probably mean using a different transmission. The transmission we use now connectd directly to the engine (they share the same oil). It's a velvet drive -- no clunking in & out of gear. Anyway, we considered a few places to have the work done. One shop was about 300 miles away. We had seen them at a classic boat show. They do great work. But they did more things that we needed and cost more. Another option was buying from a place in Minesota. (We're in Mass). But we decided to use a local guy. We met him, saw his shop, and talked out the some details. He seemed very knowledgable and his shop seemed organized, clean, and generally well run. He invited us to some by anytime to watch the progress, ask questions, etc. So we brought the engine to him. The first step was for him to tear it down and then give us an estimate of the costs to rebuild it. (He has already given us a verbal ballpark of what his guess would be $2000 to $3000) Well...it didn't work out that way. He tore it apart and then told us it basically couldn't be rebuilt. We looked at it and while we're not machinists we, especially my Dad, have worked quite a bit on engines. We agreed that it looked in pretty bad shape. So the machinist was going to look for another block, head, and exhaust manifold for us. He had a line on some and asked for money to buy them. (So far we had not paid him anything). We gave him over $2000 and got a receipt saying exactly what he was to buy. X amout for a head, Y amount for a block, Z amout for a manifold. Then the guy calls a week or so later and says he traveled to check out the ones he had in mind and they were not good enough. He would keep looking. for others. So all the above was from late December until early January. Then for the rest of January and February we'ld call him every week or 10 days and the story would always be something like: I've look at another one but it's not good enough...but I've got a line on another one that I'll be seeing in a few days. (Of course he's still got our money.) About the beginning of March he calls me and says, "I've found an engine. It's in great shape. It was used in an air compressor so it's never seen salt water, only antifreeze." (These old Hercules Engines were used in all sorts of thigns). But he adds, "Can you come up here tomorrow, there are some things I want to go over with you." So I go up there. Story is: He's moving to Louisianna. With all the hurricane damage there is lots of work there and it sounds like some governement agencies (or something) are going to help move him there, give him incentives to work there, find work for him, etc. OK, I don't blame a guy for taking an opportunity when it arrises. He says he will still do the work, but he'll have to do it from Louisianna and send us the engine. I ask, "When would you have it to us." Answer: May 30th. Hmmm....seems to me that with moving and starting a new business where we could easily get put on the bottom of his To-Do list and not see an engine all summer. That doesn't sound good. I talk it over with my Dad (who is away on vacation) and we agree that we just want the money back and we'll go elsewhere. We wanted to do business locally, not with someone 2000 miles away. When I tell the machinist this...guess what...he doesn't have the money. Over time we find out that he hasn't paid rent on his shop since December. Actually, the last time he paid rent is just around the time we gave him the $2000+. ~ Talking to the guy we get him to admit that he did spend "most" of the money on his rent. Arggggg. Well, current situation is he has paid us a little of it and keeps promising the rest. He did come up with money and paid his back rent (we've gotten to know his land lord cause we're in the same situation together). He has almost no assetts (he rents an apartment, the big machinist items in his shop are leased, etc. We spoke with a lawyer and they said that other than small claims court it probably is not worth taking other leagal action considering the cost of the bills, that he has nothing, and that he's moving in a few weeks. ~ Small claims would take 3 weeks or more likely 6 to set a court date. He'll be gone by then. So we're been stopping by every other day or so. ANYWAY -- THE QUESION: So that was all just to tell the story. I'm not really looking for advice on that. Though comments are welcome. What I'm wondering about is this: So we're thinking of buying a rebuilt enigne from the guy in Minesota. And we want to protect our selves...not just send $4000+ and hope we get an engine shipped to us. I'm thinking that aside from spelling out all the details in writing, having that signed, and asking for references we can call, that putting the money in Escrow is the way to go. So the quesions a #1: Any other ideas on how to protect oneself in this type of transation? #2: Anyone have reputable escrow companies they've done business with? Like maybe is there an arm of Citi-Bank, American Express or a company that well known/trusted that does escrow? |
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