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Gudmundur April 12th 06 10:37 PM

Mossaoui sucks!! America please listen.
 
Let me see if one of the following is correct and fitting
for mossaoui,

Scene 1

Burn him at the stake in public. Start a very small fire at his feet
then each member of a family who lost a loved one on 9/11 can add a small
piece of pine to the fire. I want him slow roasted.

Scene 2

Tonight we accidently announce he will be released at the ground
zero area of New York City this Saturday at 14:00, but we start
selling clubs and bats half price Friday evening around 18:00.

Scene 3

We strap him into the first class area of a 747 radio controlled
target drone and after takeoff hand the radio remote control to
a six year old.

It's just time to not be politically correct anymore!!
You folks know me, you know I am an Icelander living in America
by your graces holding a job and paying taxes. I served in your Navy.
When I hear that they may try to defend Mossaoui with an insanity plea
I just can't handle it anymore. He will be a martyr no matter what.
We should at least have a little fun at Mossaoui's expense.

I know what it is like to lose a brother at sea, I know what it is
like to lose a father at war. I don't want you folks to ever have to
know that pain again. You really should end your hand out of jobs and
education to foreign nationals and I will leave if I am no longer
qualified to be here either.

One final thought,, If you don't support the idea of your troops
being over in Iraq, then take that matter up with your congress or
president, but don't disrespect or spit on a serviceman!! We chose to
serve so that others could be free of tyranny, we didn't get to choose
where or how we would do that.

Blessings of good boating to you this season! Please be safe!

Gummi.


JohnH April 12th 06 10:46 PM

Mossaoui sucks!! America please listen.
 
On Wed, 12 Apr 2006 16:37:40 -0500, (Gudmundur) wrote:

Let me see if one of the following is correct and fitting
for mossaoui,

Scene 1

Burn him at the stake in public. Start a very small fire at his feet
then each member of a family who lost a loved one on 9/11 can add a small
piece of pine to the fire. I want him slow roasted.

Scene 2

Tonight we accidently announce he will be released at the ground
zero area of New York City this Saturday at 14:00, but we start
selling clubs and bats half price Friday evening around 18:00.

Scene 3

We strap him into the first class area of a 747 radio controlled
target drone and after takeoff hand the radio remote control to
a six year old.

It's just time to not be politically correct anymore!!
You folks know me, you know I am an Icelander living in America
by your graces holding a job and paying taxes. I served in your Navy.
When I hear that they may try to defend Mossaoui with an insanity plea
I just can't handle it anymore. He will be a martyr no matter what.
We should at least have a little fun at Mossaoui's expense.

I know what it is like to lose a brother at sea, I know what it is
like to lose a father at war. I don't want you folks to ever have to
know that pain again. You really should end your hand out of jobs and
education to foreign nationals and I will leave if I am no longer
qualified to be here either.

One final thought,, If you don't support the idea of your troops
being over in Iraq, then take that matter up with your congress or
president, but don't disrespect or spit on a serviceman!! We chose to
serve so that others could be free of tyranny, we didn't get to choose
where or how we would do that.

Blessings of good boating to you this season! Please be safe!

Gummi.


I think he should be isolated in a small cage and left there until he dies.
No martyrdom for him.
--
'Til next time,

John H

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Doug Kanter April 13th 06 12:03 AM

Mossaoui sucks!! America please listen.
 
"JohnH" wrote in message
...


I think he should be isolated in a small cage and left there until he
dies.
No martyrdom for him.
John H



Walking, I'm 10 minutes from a bay full of pike & walleye. Driving, it's 1
minute away. Bring him here. I have 8 boxes of lawn & leaf bags and 1200
rounds of ammunition. The fish and I can guarantee that he'll never be seen
again. Bring his best friend with him. George. We'll put them in the same
bag.



[email protected] April 13th 06 12:17 AM

Mossaoui sucks!! America please listen.
 


I think he should be isolated in a small cage and left there until he dies.
No martyrdom for him.
--

bread and water in a dark, dank solitary confinement. shared with a pig.


Calif Bill April 13th 06 12:31 AM

Mossaoui sucks!! America please listen.
 

wrote in message
ups.com...


I think he should be isolated in a small cage and left there until he
dies.
No martyrdom for him.
--

bread and water in a dark, dank solitary confinement. shared with a pig.


Lots of Pulled Pork BBQ.



DSK April 13th 06 12:52 AM

Mossaoui sucks!! America please listen.
 

I think he should be isolated in a small cage and left there until he dies.
No martyrdom for him.
--


wrote:
bread and water in a dark, dank solitary confinement. shared with a pig.


And broadcast on TV weekly or so.

Especially Al-Jazeera.

DSK


Chuck Tribolet April 13th 06 02:19 AM

Mossaoui sucks!! America please listen.
 
I would be happy to take him snorkling at the Farallones in October
(peak Great White Shark season).

In the sentencing phase, the prosucution has built a fine fire under
him, and he dumps a 55 gal drum of gas on it: "next time, burn the
whole Pentagon".


"Gudmundur" wrote in message ...
Let me see if one of the following is correct and fitting
for mossaoui,

Scene 1

Burn him at the stake in public. Start a very small fire at his feet
then each member of a family who lost a loved one on 9/11 can add a small
piece of pine to the fire. I want him slow roasted.

Scene 2

Tonight we accidently announce he will be released at the ground
zero area of New York City this Saturday at 14:00, but we start
selling clubs and bats half price Friday evening around 18:00.

Scene 3

We strap him into the first class area of a 747 radio controlled
target drone and after takeoff hand the radio remote control to
a six year old.

It's just time to not be politically correct anymore!!
You folks know me, you know I am an Icelander living in America
by your graces holding a job and paying taxes. I served in your Navy.
When I hear that they may try to defend Mossaoui with an insanity plea
I just can't handle it anymore. He will be a martyr no matter what.
We should at least have a little fun at Mossaoui's expense.

I know what it is like to lose a brother at sea, I know what it is
like to lose a father at war. I don't want you folks to ever have to
know that pain again. You really should end your hand out of jobs and
education to foreign nationals and I will leave if I am no longer
qualified to be here either.

One final thought,, If you don't support the idea of your troops
being over in Iraq, then take that matter up with your congress or
president, but don't disrespect or spit on a serviceman!! We chose to
serve so that others could be free of tyranny, we didn't get to choose
where or how we would do that.

Blessings of good boating to you this season! Please be safe!

Gummi.




Jim April 13th 06 05:11 AM

Mossaoui, what did he actually do/
 
I haven't heard anyone say this, yet.

Every one is venting about Mossaoui, but, what did he actually do?

He's just a wanna be, he's nuts, and he's seen as so be those he wanted
to join. They dumped him.

He actually had no part in 9/11. Executing him accomplished nothing.
he belongs in a mental hospital.

Our current political leaders chose not to "get" Osama. remember Bush's
unbelievable stance in the 2004 elections? He won the election despite
his failure. it was almost as if Bin Lauden had a value, for whatever
reason.

Listening to all the reliving 9/11, I wonder why we are blaming him for
those acts. he wasn't part of any of it.

Just a wanna be terrorist.


thunder April 13th 06 11:51 AM

Mossaoui, what did he actually do/
 
On Thu, 13 Apr 2006 04:11:32 +0000, Jim wrote:

I haven't heard anyone say this, yet.

Every one is venting about Mossaoui, but, what did he actually do?

He's just a wanna be, he's nuts, and he's seen as so be those he wanted to
join. They dumped him.

He actually had no part in 9/11. Executing him accomplished nothing. he
belongs in a mental hospital.

Our current political leaders chose not to "get" Osama. remember Bush's
unbelievable stance in the 2004 elections? He won the election despite
his failure. it was almost as if Bin Lauden had a value, for whatever
reason.


Exactly, but you are ****in' in the wind. Welcome to "the Long War". The
replacement for the Cold War.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/usa/story/0,,1710062,00.html

Didn't Eisenhower mention this 40 years ago? Wasn't anyone listening?

http://coursesa.matrix.msu.edu/~hst3...ts/indust.html




Listening to all the reliving 9/11, I wonder why we are blaming him for
those acts. he wasn't part of any of it.

Just a wanna be terrorist.



[email protected] April 13th 06 10:06 PM

Mossaoui sucks!! America please listen.
 

Harry Krause wrote:


Works for me, but...

What about the feelings of the pig?


I agree Harry. I repent of my ill feelings for the pig...


[email protected] April 14th 06 04:28 PM

Mossaoui sucks!! America please listen.
 

JohnH wrote:
I think he should be isolated in a small cage and left there until he dies.
No martyrdom for him.
--


My relatively rare OT comment, sorry.

Unless he committed a capital crime under common definition, as
reprehensible as the ******* is we should not put him to death. The
prosecution seems to be making a case that
"failure to act" to prevent 9-11 is a capital offense. (If some far out
wack job conspiracy theorists were ever proven correct, that legal
precedent could have some dire and unexpected consequences).

Sometimes I think too far outside the box. My fear with this case is
that we will wind up killing a man not for a crime that he committed,
but for a crime that he would have committed if he were not arrested
first. Does this open the door for executing anybody
planning a murder? If the police just happen to catch the would be
murderer before he or she can carry out the plan- should they be put to
death anyway? Setting off on a course where we kill people not for what
they did but for what they *thought* about doing is just a baby step
short of simply killing people for harboring certain "politically
incorrect" thoughts or opinions. We can't go there and still be the
USA.

As far as I know, conspiracy to commit murder is not a capital crime.
Give this ******* the maximum allowable term for each of the 3,0000
victimes on 9-11 with no possibiilty of parole. Should be abut 30,000
years. That's justice. I think the Constitution has to be observed and
defended, even when it stands in the way of exacting revenge for one of
the most tragic incidents in American history.

Will now surrender the soap box........


Jim April 14th 06 04:32 PM

Mossaoui, what did he actually do?
 
I expected an argument. Instead, I receive support for my point.

I can't help but notice that some of my friends who were so strong in
their support for Bush a year ago are starting to make statements that I
agree with.

Maybe critical thinking is making a come-back.


Doug Kanter April 14th 06 04:33 PM

Mossaoui sucks!! America please listen.
 
wrote in message
oups.com...

JohnH wrote:
I think he should be isolated in a small cage and left there until he
dies.
No martyrdom for him.
--


My relatively rare OT comment, sorry.

Unless he committed a capital crime under common definition, as
reprehensible as the ******* is we should not put him to death. The
prosecution seems to be making a case that
"failure to act" to prevent 9-11 is a capital offense. (If some far out
wack job conspiracy theorists were ever proven correct, that legal
precedent could have some dire and unexpected consequences).

Sometimes I think too far outside the box. My fear with this case is
that we will wind up killing a man not for a crime that he committed,
but for a crime that he would have committed if he were not arrested
first. Does this open the door for executing anybody
planning a murder?


Remember the movie "Minority Report"?



Jim April 14th 06 04:43 PM

Mossaoui sucks!! America please listen.
 
Doug Kanter wrote:
wrote in message
oups.com...

JohnH wrote:

I think he should be isolated in a small cage and left there until he
dies.
No martyrdom for him.
--


My relatively rare OT comment, sorry.

Unless he committed a capital crime under common definition, as
reprehensible as the ******* is we should not put him to death. The
prosecution seems to be making a case that
"failure to act" to prevent 9-11 is a capital offense. (If some far out
wack job conspiracy theorists were ever proven correct, that legal
precedent could have some dire and unexpected consequences).

Sometimes I think too far outside the box. My fear with this case is
that we will wind up killing a man not for a crime that he committed,
but for a crime that he would have committed if he were not arrested
first. Does this open the door for executing anybody
planning a murder?



Remember the movie "Minority Report"?


Chuck, more people need to think "out of the box."

I just re-read "1984." If you've never read it, here it is:
http://www.online-literature.com/orwell/1984/

__________________________________________________ ___
In 1984, Winston Smith lives in London which is part of the country
Oceania. The world is divided into three countries that include the
entire globe: Oceania, Eurasia, and Eastasia. Oceania, and both of the
others, is a totalitarian society led by Big Brother, which censors
everyone’s behavior, even their thoughts. Winston is disgusted with his
oppressed life and secretly longs to join the fabled Brotherhood, a
supposed group of underground rebels intent on overthrowing the
government. Winston meets Julia and they secretly fall in love and have
an affair, something which is considered a crime. One day, while walking
home, Winston encounters O'Brien, an inner party member, who gives
Winston his address. Winston had exchanged glances with O'Brien before
and had dreams about him giving him the impression that O'Brien was a
member of the Brotherhood. Since Julia hated the party as much as
Winston did, they went to O'Brien’s house together where they were
introduced into the Brotherhood. O'Brien is actually a faithful member
of the Inner-Party and this is actually a trap for Winston, a trap that
O'Brien has been cleverly setting for seven years. Winston and Julia are
sent to the Ministry of Love which is a sort of rehabilitation center
for criminals accused of thoughtcrime. There, Winston was separated from
Julia, and tortured until his beliefs coincided with those of the Party.
Winston denounces everything he believed him, even his love for Julia,
and was released back into the public where he wastes his days at the
Chestnut Tree drinking gin.


Doug Kanter April 14th 06 04:49 PM

Mossaoui sucks!! America please listen.
 
wrote in message
oups.com...

JohnH wrote:
I think he should be isolated in a small cage and left there until he
dies.
No martyrdom for him.
--


My relatively rare OT comment, sorry.

Unless he committed a capital crime under common definition, as
reprehensible as the ******* is we should not put him to death. The
prosecution seems to be making a case that
"failure to act" to prevent 9-11 is a capital offense. (If some far out
wack job conspiracy theorists were ever proven correct, that legal
precedent could have some dire and unexpected consequences).


Would we be better off to stick him in a typical state prison, and make sure
every other prisoner knows exactly who he is?



Jim April 14th 06 04:50 PM

Mossaoui sucks!! America please listen.
 
From "1984":

The three slogans of the Party:

WAR IS PEACE

FREEDOM IS SLAVERY

IGNORANCE IS STRENGTH






Jim April 14th 06 04:52 PM

Mossaoui sucks!! America please listen.
 
Doug Kanter wrote:

wrote in message
oups.com...

JohnH wrote:

I think he should be isolated in a small cage and left there until he
dies.
No martyrdom for him.
--


My relatively rare OT comment, sorry.

Unless he committed a capital crime under common definition, as
reprehensible as the ******* is we should not put him to death. The
prosecution seems to be making a case that
"failure to act" to prevent 9-11 is a capital offense. (If some far out
wack job conspiracy theorists were ever proven correct, that legal
precedent could have some dire and unexpected consequences).



Would we be better off to stick him in a typical state prison, and make sure
every other prisoner knows exactly who he is?


Exactly who is he?

He'd be better off in the mental health system.


JohnH April 14th 06 05:22 PM

Mossaoui sucks!! America please listen.
 
On 14 Apr 2006 08:28:23 -0700, "
wrote:


JohnH wrote:
I think he should be isolated in a small cage and left there until he dies.
No martyrdom for him.
--


My relatively rare OT comment, sorry.

Unless he committed a capital crime under common definition, as
reprehensible as the ******* is we should not put him to death. The
prosecution seems to be making a case that
"failure to act" to prevent 9-11 is a capital offense. (If some far out
wack job conspiracy theorists were ever proven correct, that legal
precedent could have some dire and unexpected consequences).

Sometimes I think too far outside the box. My fear with this case is
that we will wind up killing a man not for a crime that he committed,
but for a crime that he would have committed if he were not arrested
first. Does this open the door for executing anybody
planning a murder? If the police just happen to catch the would be
murderer before he or she can carry out the plan- should they be put to
death anyway? Setting off on a course where we kill people not for what
they did but for what they *thought* about doing is just a baby step
short of simply killing people for harboring certain "politically
incorrect" thoughts or opinions. We can't go there and still be the
USA.

As far as I know, conspiracy to commit murder is not a capital crime.
Give this ******* the maximum allowable term for each of the 3,0000
victimes on 9-11 with no possibiilty of parole. Should be abut 30,000
years. That's justice. I think the Constitution has to be observed and
defended, even when it stands in the way of exacting revenge for one of
the most tragic incidents in American history.

Will now surrender the soap box........


Not knowing the pertinent laws in this area (or those given the jury), I
can't argue why the jury found him eligible for the death penalty. I would
tend to think that finding not un-Constitutional, however.

At least we agree on the outcome. Put him in a box. Keep him quiet 'til he
dies.
--
'Til next time,

John H

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***** Have a Spectacular Day! *****
******************************************

JohnH April 14th 06 05:23 PM

Mossaoui sucks!! America please listen.
 
On Fri, 14 Apr 2006 15:49:58 GMT, "Doug Kanter"
wrote:

wrote in message
roups.com...

JohnH wrote:
I think he should be isolated in a small cage and left there until he
dies.
No martyrdom for him.
--


My relatively rare OT comment, sorry.

Unless he committed a capital crime under common definition, as
reprehensible as the ******* is we should not put him to death. The
prosecution seems to be making a case that
"failure to act" to prevent 9-11 is a capital offense. (If some far out
wack job conspiracy theorists were ever proven correct, that legal
precedent could have some dire and unexpected consequences).


Would we be better off to stick him in a typical state prison, and make sure
every other prisoner knows exactly who he is?


There are too many Muslims in prisons who would think him a hero. He needs
isolation.
--
'Til next time,

John H

******************************************
***** Have a Spectacular Day! *****
******************************************

JohnH April 14th 06 05:26 PM

Mossaoui, what did he actually do?
 
On Fri, 14 Apr 2006 15:32:04 GMT, Jim wrote:

I expected an argument. Instead, I receive support for my point.

I can't help but notice that some of my friends who were so strong in
their support for Bush a year ago are starting to make statements that I
agree with.

Maybe critical thinking is making a come-back.


Why the attempt to make the discussion political?
--
'Til next time,

John H

******************************************
***** Have a Spectacular Day! *****
******************************************

Jim April 14th 06 05:45 PM

Mossaoui sucks!! America please listen.
 
JohnH wrote:
On Fri, 14 Apr 2006 15:52:34 GMT, Jim wrote:


Doug Kanter wrote:


wrote in message
egroups.com...


JohnH wrote:


I think he should be isolated in a small cage and left there until he
dies.
No martyrdom for him.
--

My relatively rare OT comment, sorry.

Unless he committed a capital crime under common definition, as
reprehensible as the ******* is we should not put him to death. The
prosecution seems to be making a case that
"failure to act" to prevent 9-11 is a capital offense. (If some far out
wack job conspiracy theorists were ever proven correct, that legal
precedent could have some dire and unexpected consequences).


Would we be better off to stick him in a typical state prison, and make sure
every other prisoner knows exactly who he is?



Exactly who is he?

He'd be better off in the mental health system.



As long as he's isolated. They can put his box anywhere. Would you have put
the other 19 in 'the mental health system'?
--
'Til next time,

John H

******************************************
***** Have a Spectacular Day! *****
******************************************

The "other" 19 were actually involved in the crime.



Jim April 14th 06 05:47 PM

Mossaoui, what did he actually do?
 
JohnH wrote:

On Fri, 14 Apr 2006 15:32:04 GMT, Jim wrote:


I expected an argument. Instead, I receive support for my point.

I can't help but notice that some of my friends who were so strong in
their support for Bush a year ago are starting to make statements that I
agree with.

Maybe critical thinking is making a come-back.



Why the attempt to make the discussion political?
--
'Til next time,

John H

******************************************
***** Have a Spectacular Day! *****
******************************************

The discussion IS political.

If politics weren't involved, common sense would take over.


Jim April 14th 06 06:00 PM

Mossaoui, what did he actually do?
 
JohnH wrote:

On Fri, 14 Apr 2006 15:32:04 GMT, Jim wrote:


I expected an argument. Instead, I receive support for my point.

I can't help but notice that some of my friends who were so strong in
their support for Bush a year ago are starting to make statements that I
agree with.

Maybe critical thinking is making a come-back.



Why the attempt to make the discussion political?
--
'Til next time,

John H

******************************************
***** Have a Spectacular Day! *****
******************************************


Everything going on here involves politics.

You are right, though. I was trying to make the point that the energy
seems to be moving away from what we were all sold in the last 5 years.

I know that political views, like religious, is based on long held
beliefs, reality takes a back seat sometimes. While this has no point
in a boating group, this thread is hopelessly mired in belief instead of
logic.

I could not read all the mis-placed anger with out trying to see if
everyone really thought that way.


RCE April 14th 06 11:43 PM

Mossaoui sucks!! America please listen.
 

wrote in message
oups.com...

JohnH wrote:
I think he should be isolated in a small cage and left there until he
dies.
No martyrdom for him.
--


My relatively rare OT comment, sorry.

Unless he committed a capital crime under common definition, as
reprehensible as the ******* is we should not put him to death. The
prosecution seems to be making a case that
"failure to act" to prevent 9-11 is a capital offense. (If some far out
wack job conspiracy theorists were ever proven correct, that legal
precedent could have some dire and unexpected consequences).

Sometimes I think too far outside the box. My fear with this case is
that we will wind up killing a man not for a crime that he committed,
but for a crime that he would have committed if he were not arrested
first. Does this open the door for executing anybody
planning a murder? If the police just happen to catch the would be
murderer before he or she can carry out the plan- should they be put to
death anyway? Setting off on a course where we kill people not for what
they did but for what they *thought* about doing is just a baby step
short of simply killing people for harboring certain "politically
incorrect" thoughts or opinions. We can't go there and still be the
USA.

As far as I know, conspiracy to commit murder is not a capital crime.
Give this ******* the maximum allowable term for each of the 3,0000
victimes on 9-11 with no possibiilty of parole. Should be abut 30,000
years. That's justice. I think the Constitution has to be observed and
defended, even when it stands in the way of exacting revenge for one of
the most tragic incidents in American history.

Will now surrender the soap box........


This guy is of the same breed that beheads innocent civilians and sends the
video to be broadcast world-wide. He's of the same breed that drags
(hopefully) dead foreigners through the streets of his hometown to make some
kind of public statement. He's a sworn enemy and has made a sacred vow to
kill as many of us as he can.

Castrate the sucker so he can't enjoy his 72 virgins, then fry his ass.

RCE



JohnH April 15th 06 12:28 AM

Mossaoui sucks!! America please listen.
 
On Fri, 14 Apr 2006 16:45:00 GMT, Jim wrote:

JohnH wrote:
On Fri, 14 Apr 2006 15:52:34 GMT, Jim wrote:


Doug Kanter wrote:


wrote in message
legroups.com...


JohnH wrote:


I think he should be isolated in a small cage and left there until he
dies.
No martyrdom for him.
--

My relatively rare OT comment, sorry.

Unless he committed a capital crime under common definition, as
reprehensible as the ******* is we should not put him to death. The
prosecution seems to be making a case that
"failure to act" to prevent 9-11 is a capital offense. (If some far out
wack job conspiracy theorists were ever proven correct, that legal
precedent could have some dire and unexpected consequences).


Would we be better off to stick him in a typical state prison, and make sure
every other prisoner knows exactly who he is?



Exactly who is he?

He'd be better off in the mental health system.



As long as he's isolated. They can put his box anywhere. Would you have put
the other 19 in 'the mental health system'?
--
'Til next time,

John H

******************************************
***** Have a Spectacular Day! *****
******************************************

The "other" 19 were actually involved in the crime.


So that makes them 'mentally stable'?
--
'Til next time,

John H

******************************************
***** Have a Spectacular Day! *****
******************************************

JohnH April 15th 06 12:31 AM

Mossaoui, what did he actually do?
 
On Fri, 14 Apr 2006 17:00:46 GMT, Jim wrote:

JohnH wrote:

On Fri, 14 Apr 2006 15:32:04 GMT, Jim wrote:


I expected an argument. Instead, I receive support for my point.

I can't help but notice that some of my friends who were so strong in
their support for Bush a year ago are starting to make statements that I
agree with.

Maybe critical thinking is making a come-back.



Why the attempt to make the discussion political?
--
'Til next time,

John H

******************************************
***** Have a Spectacular Day! *****
******************************************


Everything going on here involves politics.

You are right, though. I was trying to make the point that the energy
seems to be moving away from what we were all sold in the last 5 years.

I know that political views, like religious, is based on long held
beliefs, reality takes a back seat sometimes. While this has no point
in a boating group, this thread is hopelessly mired in belief instead of
logic.

I could not read all the mis-placed anger with out trying to see if
everyone really thought that way.


A discussion of the possible punishment for a terrorist is not, in and of
itself, political.

A discussion of photography is not political.

A discussion on the best way to catch stripers is not political.

etc., etc., etc.

It's simply not true that everything going on here involves politics.
--
'Til next time,

John H

******************************************
***** Have a Spectacular Day! *****
******************************************

Jim April 15th 06 03:32 AM

Mossaoui sucks!! America please listen.
 
JohnH wrote:
On Fri, 14 Apr 2006 16:45:00 GMT, Jim wrote:


JohnH wrote:

On Fri, 14 Apr 2006 15:52:34 GMT, Jim wrote:



Doug Kanter wrote:



wrote in message
glegroups.com...



JohnH wrote:



I think he should be isolated in a small cage and left there until he
dies.
No martyrdom for him.
--

My relatively rare OT comment, sorry.

Unless he committed a capital crime under common definition, as
reprehensible as the ******* is we should not put him to death. The
prosecution seems to be making a case that
"failure to act" to prevent 9-11 is a capital offense. (If some far out
wack job conspiracy theorists were ever proven correct, that legal
precedent could have some dire and unexpected consequences).


Would we be better off to stick him in a typical state prison, and make sure
every other prisoner knows exactly who he is?



Exactly who is he?

He'd be better off in the mental health system.


As long as he's isolated. They can put his box anywhere. Would you have put
the other 19 in 'the mental health system'?
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'Til next time,

John H

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The "other" 19 were actually involved in the crime.



So that makes them 'mentally stable'?
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'Til next time,

John H

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I should know better, but here goes:

The other 19 . . . have nothing to do with Mossaoui. He was NOT
involved in their actions.




Jim April 15th 06 03:44 AM

Mossaoui, what did he actually do?
 
JohnH wrote:

On Fri, 14 Apr 2006 17:00:46 GMT, Jim wrote:


JohnH wrote:


On Fri, 14 Apr 2006 15:32:04 GMT, Jim wrote:



I expected an argument. Instead, I receive support for my point.

I can't help but notice that some of my friends who were so strong in
their support for Bush a year ago are starting to make statements that I
agree with.

Maybe critical thinking is making a come-back.


Why the attempt to make the discussion political?
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'Til next time,

John H

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Everything going on here involves politics.

You are right, though. I was trying to make the point that the energy
seems to be moving away from what we were all sold in the last 5 years.

I know that political views, like religious, is based on long held
beliefs, reality takes a back seat sometimes. While this has no point
in a boating group, this thread is hopelessly mired in belief instead of
logic.

I could not read all the mis-placed anger with out trying to see if
everyone really thought that way.



A discussion of the possible punishment for a terrorist is not, in and of
itself, political.

A discussion of photography is not political.

A discussion on the best way to catch stripers is not political.

etc., etc., etc.

It's simply not true that everything going on here involves politics.
--
'Til next time,

John H

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I'll try this again:

Mossaoui was tossed out of the group. His actions were ZERO, aside from
some unsuccessful flight training. I doubt that he really knew much
about the actual attack.

He said he did, but, AFTER the attack took place. He isn't a terrorist,
he's a wanna be terrorist.

What frustrates me, is that you misunderstand that we were not
"discussing possible punishment for a terrorist", but trying to out do
each other on inhuman treatment of a guy that's mentally ill.

Our society is not headed in a direction that makes us better than they are.


He's a nutcase, but only a pretend terrorist. That's quite different.


JohnH April 15th 06 02:36 PM

Mossaoui sucks!! America please listen.
 
On Sat, 15 Apr 2006 02:32:52 GMT, Jim wrote:

JohnH wrote:
On Fri, 14 Apr 2006 16:45:00 GMT, Jim wrote:


JohnH wrote:

On Fri, 14 Apr 2006 15:52:34 GMT, Jim wrote:



Doug Kanter wrote:



wrote in message
oglegroups.com...



JohnH wrote:



I think he should be isolated in a small cage and left there until he
dies.
No martyrdom for him.
--

My relatively rare OT comment, sorry.

Unless he committed a capital crime under common definition, as
reprehensible as the ******* is we should not put him to death. The
prosecution seems to be making a case that
"failure to act" to prevent 9-11 is a capital offense. (If some far out
wack job conspiracy theorists were ever proven correct, that legal
precedent could have some dire and unexpected consequences).


Would we be better off to stick him in a typical state prison, and make sure
every other prisoner knows exactly who he is?



Exactly who is he?

He'd be better off in the mental health system.


As long as he's isolated. They can put his box anywhere. Would you have put
the other 19 in 'the mental health system'?
--
'Til next time,

John H

******************************************
***** Have a Spectacular Day! *****
******************************************

The "other" 19 were actually involved in the crime.



So that makes them 'mentally stable'?
--
'Til next time,

John H

******************************************
***** Have a Spectacular Day! *****
******************************************


I should know better, but here goes:

The other 19 . . . have nothing to do with Mossaoui. He was NOT
involved in their actions.



Your opinion seems to differ from that of Moussaoui and his jury.

You've not addressed the question. Would you put the other 19, if they'd
survived, in 'the mental health system'?
--
'Til next time,

John H

******************************************
***** Have a Spectacular Day! *****
******************************************

JohnH April 15th 06 02:43 PM

Mossaoui, what did he actually do?
 
On Sat, 15 Apr 2006 02:44:24 GMT, Jim wrote:

JohnH wrote:

On Fri, 14 Apr 2006 17:00:46 GMT, Jim wrote:


JohnH wrote:


On Fri, 14 Apr 2006 15:32:04 GMT, Jim wrote:



I expected an argument. Instead, I receive support for my point.

I can't help but notice that some of my friends who were so strong in
their support for Bush a year ago are starting to make statements that I
agree with.

Maybe critical thinking is making a come-back.


Why the attempt to make the discussion political?
--
'Til next time,

John H

******************************************
***** Have a Spectacular Day! *****
******************************************

Everything going on here involves politics.

You are right, though. I was trying to make the point that the energy
seems to be moving away from what we were all sold in the last 5 years.

I know that political views, like religious, is based on long held
beliefs, reality takes a back seat sometimes. While this has no point
in a boating group, this thread is hopelessly mired in belief instead of
logic.

I could not read all the mis-placed anger with out trying to see if
everyone really thought that way.



A discussion of the possible punishment for a terrorist is not, in and of
itself, political.

A discussion of photography is not political.

A discussion on the best way to catch stripers is not political.

etc., etc., etc.

It's simply not true that everything going on here involves politics.
--
'Til next time,

John H

******************************************
***** Have a Spectacular Day! *****
******************************************


I'll try this again:

Mossaoui was tossed out of the group. His actions were ZERO, aside from
some unsuccessful flight training. I doubt that he really knew much
about the actual attack.

He said he did, but, AFTER the attack took place. He isn't a terrorist,
he's a wanna be terrorist.

What frustrates me, is that you misunderstand that we were not
"discussing possible punishment for a terrorist", but trying to out do
each other on inhuman treatment of a guy that's mentally ill.

Our society is not headed in a direction that makes us better than they are.


He's a nutcase, but only a pretend terrorist. That's quite different.


No. *We* were discussing punishment for a terrorist. *You* tried to turn
the discussion into a political argument.

As I said earlier, you obviously know more about Moussaoui's involvement
than either Moussaoui or his jury.

Would the other 19 be 'mentally ill' and deserving of placement in 'the
mental health system' by your definitions?


--
'Til next time,

John H

******************************************
***** Have a Spectacular Day! *****
******************************************

[email protected] April 15th 06 09:39 PM

Mossaoui sucks!! America please listen.
 

I just re-read "1984." If you've never read it, here it is:
http://www.online-literature.com/orwell/1984/

Suzanna hamilton looked pretty good in "1984

http://www.newspeakdictionary.com/19...ie-capture.jpg

http://www.tvtotty.net/tottyvids18/8e684d20.jpg


Igor daFeeesh Skweeezer May 1st 06 10:52 PM

Mossaoui sucks!! America please listen.
 
HAY! I resemble that statement! My MOTHER was born in St. Louis,
Mossaoui!!!


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