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"Calif Bill" wrote in message
ink.net... http://www.telegraph.co.uk/opinion/m...9/ixworld.html Feel free to join the previous cluster **** on this same subject, begun by your clone, Bert. :-) |
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"Doug Kanter" wrote in message ... "Calif Bill" wrote in message ink.net... http://www.telegraph.co.uk/opinion/m...9/ixworld.html Feel free to join the previous cluster **** on this same subject, begun by your clone, Bert. :-) Maybe your son will learn something when he travels Europe. |
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Doug Kanter wrote: "Calif Bill" wrote in message ink.net... http://www.telegraph.co.uk/opinion/m...9/ixworld.html Feel free to join the previous cluster **** on this same subject, begun by your clone, Bert. :-) No sense in trying, Doug. It takes some intelligence to understand the complexities of global warming. People with their heads in the sand tend to be not informed. |
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basskisser wrote:
No sense in trying, Doug. It takes some intelligence to understand the complexities of global warming. People with their heads in the sand tend to be not informed. Bert not only has his head in the sand...he's been pounding sand up his a** since the '80s. |
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On Mon, 10 Apr 2006 18:27:37 GMT, "Calif Bill"
wrote: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/opinion/m...9/ixworld.html Wrong group. But it proves the adage about 'minds that think alike'! -- 'Til next time, John H ****************************************** ***** Have a Spectacular Day! ***** ****************************************** |
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"JohnH" wrote in message ... On Mon, 10 Apr 2006 18:27:37 GMT, "Calif Bill" wrote: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/opinion/m...9/ixworld.html Wrong group. But it proves the adage about 'minds that think alike'! -- 'Til next time, John H ****************************************** ***** Have a Spectacular Day! ***** ****************************************** Nope, global warming / cooling affects boating. The question is what is the cause. Some only want to blame man, and ignore Ma Natures contributions. |
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"JohnH" wrote in message ... On Mon, 10 Apr 2006 18:27:37 GMT, "Calif Bill" wrote: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/opinion/m...9/ixworld.html Wrong group. But it proves the adage about 'minds that think alike'! Great minds! |
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"Calif Bill" wrote in message ink.net... "Doug Kanter" wrote in message ... "Calif Bill" wrote in message ink.net... http://www.telegraph.co.uk/opinion/m...9/ixworld.html Feel free to join the previous cluster **** on this same subject, begun by your clone, Bert. :-) Maybe your son will learn something when he travels Europe. What's in Europe that his son might learn (seriously, not trying to get between you and Doug)? |
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"Bryan" wrote in message ... "Calif Bill" wrote in message ink.net... "Doug Kanter" wrote in message ... "Calif Bill" wrote in message ink.net... http://www.telegraph.co.uk/opinion/m...9/ixworld.html Feel free to join the previous cluster **** on this same subject, begun by your clone, Bert. :-) Maybe your son will learn something when he travels Europe. What's in Europe that his son might learn (seriously, not trying to get between you and Doug)? His son is going to Europe on a school trip. And travel is supposed to broaden your horizons. His mind is made up that the global warming is man caused. Will not consider that the earth is always heating and cooling and it may be mother nature and not just man. Why is Mars also warming at the same time? Mars Rovers? |
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Calif Bill wrote: "Bryan" wrote in message ... "Calif Bill" wrote in message ink.net... "Doug Kanter" wrote in message ... "Calif Bill" wrote in message ink.net... http://www.telegraph.co.uk/opinion/m...9/ixworld.html Feel free to join the previous cluster **** on this same subject, begun by your clone, Bert. :-) Maybe your son will learn something when he travels Europe. What's in Europe that his son might learn (seriously, not trying to get between you and Doug)? His son is going to Europe on a school trip. And travel is supposed to broaden your horizons. His mind is made up that the global warming is man caused. Will not consider that the earth is always heating and cooling and it may be mother nature and not just man. Why is Mars also warming at the same time? Mars Rovers? You do realize, don't you, Bill, that the warming is happening at a pace that hasn't happened before? And you also realize, that just because there is a cyclic warming and cooling that is astronomy based, doesn't mean that man hasn't had a profound influence on that warming, don't you? |
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"basskisser" wrote in message
oups.com... Calif Bill wrote: "Bryan" wrote in message ... "Calif Bill" wrote in message ink.net... "Doug Kanter" wrote in message ... "Calif Bill" wrote in message ink.net... http://www.telegraph.co.uk/opinion/m...9/ixworld.html Feel free to join the previous cluster **** on this same subject, begun by your clone, Bert. :-) Maybe your son will learn something when he travels Europe. What's in Europe that his son might learn (seriously, not trying to get between you and Doug)? His son is going to Europe on a school trip. And travel is supposed to broaden your horizons. His mind is made up that the global warming is man caused. Will not consider that the earth is always heating and cooling and it may be mother nature and not just man. Why is Mars also warming at the same time? Mars Rovers? You do realize, don't you, Bill, that the warming is happening at a pace that hasn't happened before? And you also realize, that just because there is a cyclic warming and cooling that is astronomy based, doesn't mean that man hasn't had a profound influence on that warming, don't you? You're now getting into the realm of "complex systems", which are purely a left wing idea. :-) |
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Doug Kanter wrote: "basskisser" wrote in message oups.com... Calif Bill wrote: "Bryan" wrote in message ... "Calif Bill" wrote in message ink.net... "Doug Kanter" wrote in message ... "Calif Bill" wrote in message ink.net... http://www.telegraph.co.uk/opinion/m...9/ixworld.html Feel free to join the previous cluster **** on this same subject, begun by your clone, Bert. :-) Maybe your son will learn something when he travels Europe. What's in Europe that his son might learn (seriously, not trying to get between you and Doug)? His son is going to Europe on a school trip. And travel is supposed to broaden your horizons. His mind is made up that the global warming is man caused. Will not consider that the earth is always heating and cooling and it may be mother nature and not just man. Why is Mars also warming at the same time? Mars Rovers? You do realize, don't you, Bill, that the warming is happening at a pace that hasn't happened before? And you also realize, that just because there is a cyclic warming and cooling that is astronomy based, doesn't mean that man hasn't had a profound influence on that warming, don't you? You're now getting into the realm of "complex systems", which are purely a left wing idea. :-) True....to the narrow minded, two=complex! |
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"basskisser" wrote in message oups.com... You do realize, don't you, Bill, that the warming is happening at a pace that hasn't happened before? How do we possible know that for a fact? And you also realize, that just because there is a cyclic warming and cooling that is astronomy based, doesn't mean that man hasn't had a profound influence on that warming, don't you? These statements of fact are based on theories, most with equally qualified opposite points of view. They are yet to be proven as fact or fiction. That's the problem, drawing conclusions based on so little data. Smoking used to be considered good for you and was recommended to calm the nerves. RCE |
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RCE wrote: "basskisser" wrote in message oups.com... You do realize, don't you, Bill, that the warming is happening at a pace that hasn't happened before? How do we possible know that for a fact? Ice borings. And you also realize, that just because there is a cyclic warming and cooling that is astronomy based, doesn't mean that man hasn't had a profound influence on that warming, don't you? These statements of fact are based on theories, most with equally qualified opposite points of view. They are yet to be proven as fact or fiction. Which statements? Yes, we do, in fact know that there is cyclic warming and cooling. And yes, it doesn't mean that man hasn't (or has for that matter) had a profound influence on that warming. If there are equally qualified opposite statements to the contrary, I'd like to see them! I've not heard of one bit of compelling data that would make one come to the conclusion that CFC's and other chemicals aren't having any influence at all on ozone depletion, and hence global warming. That's the problem, drawing conclusions based on so little data. Smoking used to be considered good for you and was recommended to calm the nerves. I don't get the parallels there....but, when I smoked, it did seem to calm my nerves. So perhaps there is data out there somewhere that shows that!! |
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basskisser wrote:
RCE wrote: "basskisser" wrote in message groups.com... You do realize, don't you, Bill, that the warming is happening at a pace that hasn't happened before? How do we possible know that for a fact? Ice borings. Those ice borings show atmospheric CO2 content. They us NOTHING at all about temperature. Smoking used to be considered good for you and was recommended to calm the nerves. I don't get the parallels there....but, when I smoked, it did seem to calm my nerves. So perhaps there is data out there somewhere that shows that!! There is. At least one study has shown nicotine to have anti-psycotic effects. It has been observed for a long time that many mentally ill people chain-smoke. This study showed that it is a form of self-medication. However, you won't find this study quoted or touted very much. We aren't supposed to find anything GOOD about tobacco. You will find that most studies of climatology similarly vanish if they do not tow the global warming line. |
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"basskisser" wrote in message oups.com... Calif Bill wrote: "Bryan" wrote in message ... "Calif Bill" wrote in message ink.net... "Doug Kanter" wrote in message ... "Calif Bill" wrote in message ink.net... http://www.telegraph.co.uk/opinion/m...9/ixworld.html Feel free to join the previous cluster **** on this same subject, begun by your clone, Bert. :-) Maybe your son will learn something when he travels Europe. What's in Europe that his son might learn (seriously, not trying to get between you and Doug)? His son is going to Europe on a school trip. And travel is supposed to broaden your horizons. His mind is made up that the global warming is man caused. Will not consider that the earth is always heating and cooling and it may be mother nature and not just man. Why is Mars also warming at the same time? Mars Rovers? You do realize, don't you, Bill, that the warming is happening at a pace that hasn't happened before? And you also realize, that just because there is a cyclic warming and cooling that is astronomy based, doesn't mean that man hasn't had a profound influence on that warming, don't you? How do you know it is happening at a faster or slower pace? The Wooly Mammoths were flash frozen a while back. Had to be a fast change in temperature with high winds associated with the temperature change. |
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"basskisser" wrote in message ups.com... Doug Kanter wrote: "basskisser" wrote in message oups.com... Calif Bill wrote: "Bryan" wrote in message ... "Calif Bill" wrote in message ink.net... "Doug Kanter" wrote in message ... "Calif Bill" wrote in message ink.net... http://www.telegraph.co.uk/opinion/m...9/ixworld.html Feel free to join the previous cluster **** on this same subject, begun by your clone, Bert. :-) Maybe your son will learn something when he travels Europe. What's in Europe that his son might learn (seriously, not trying to get between you and Doug)? His son is going to Europe on a school trip. And travel is supposed to broaden your horizons. His mind is made up that the global warming is man caused. Will not consider that the earth is always heating and cooling and it may be mother nature and not just man. Why is Mars also warming at the same time? Mars Rovers? You do realize, don't you, Bill, that the warming is happening at a pace that hasn't happened before? And you also realize, that just because there is a cyclic warming and cooling that is astronomy based, doesn't mean that man hasn't had a profound influence on that warming, don't you? You're now getting into the realm of "complex systems", which are purely a left wing idea. :-) True....to the narrow minded, two=complex! To the narrow minded it is simple. Man is at fault. |
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"Calif Bill" wrote in message
ink.net... "basskisser" wrote in message ups.com... Doug Kanter wrote: "basskisser" wrote in message oups.com... Calif Bill wrote: "Bryan" wrote in message ... "Calif Bill" wrote in message ink.net... "Doug Kanter" wrote in message ... "Calif Bill" wrote in message ink.net... http://www.telegraph.co.uk/opinion/m...9/ixworld.html Feel free to join the previous cluster **** on this same subject, begun by your clone, Bert. :-) Maybe your son will learn something when he travels Europe. What's in Europe that his son might learn (seriously, not trying to get between you and Doug)? His son is going to Europe on a school trip. And travel is supposed to broaden your horizons. His mind is made up that the global warming is man caused. Will not consider that the earth is always heating and cooling and it may be mother nature and not just man. Why is Mars also warming at the same time? Mars Rovers? You do realize, don't you, Bill, that the warming is happening at a pace that hasn't happened before? And you also realize, that just because there is a cyclic warming and cooling that is astronomy based, doesn't mean that man hasn't had a profound influence on that warming, don't you? You're now getting into the realm of "complex systems", which are purely a left wing idea. :-) True....to the narrow minded, two=complex! To the narrow minded it is simple. Man is at fault. Actually, I haven't heard many scientists saying that at all. But, that certainly is the kneejerk understanding being promoted by certain parties. |
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"Calif Bill" wrote
To the narrow minded it is simple. Man is at fault. Doug Kanter wrote: Actually, I haven't heard many scientists saying that at all. But, that certainly is the kneejerk understanding being promoted by certain parties. All the people I've heard saying this are right-wingers who claim it's what the enviro-whackos & "the left" are saying. No scientists, no Greens, no environmentalists, and no Democrats are saying it at all. But that's OK, it makes it easy to tell where people get their info from. DSK |
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"DSK" wrote in message
... "Calif Bill" wrote To the narrow minded it is simple. Man is at fault. Doug Kanter wrote: Actually, I haven't heard many scientists saying that at all. But, that certainly is the kneejerk understanding being promoted by certain parties. All the people I've heard saying this are right-wingers who claim it's what the enviro-whackos & "the left" are saying. No scientists, no Greens, no environmentalists, and no Democrats are saying it at all. But that's OK, it makes it easy to tell where people get their info from. DSK That leads to another thing: I wonder what it's like to have no thoughts whatsoever, unless some self-proclaimed leader provides you with some. |
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"basskisser" wrote in message oups.com... Calif Bill wrote: "Bryan" wrote in message ... "Calif Bill" wrote in message ink.net... "Doug Kanter" wrote in message ... "Calif Bill" wrote in message ink.net... http://www.telegraph.co.uk/opinion/m...9/ixworld.html Feel free to join the previous cluster **** on this same subject, begun by your clone, Bert. :-) Maybe your son will learn something when he travels Europe. What's in Europe that his son might learn (seriously, not trying to get between you and Doug)? His son is going to Europe on a school trip. And travel is supposed to broaden your horizons. His mind is made up that the global warming is man caused. Will not consider that the earth is always heating and cooling and it may be mother nature and not just man. Why is Mars also warming at the same time? Mars Rovers? You do realize, don't you, Bill, that the warming is happening at a pace that hasn't happened before? And you also realize, that just because there is a cyclic warming and cooling that is astronomy based, doesn't mean that man hasn't had a profound influence on that warming, don't you? Kevin, I didn't know you are the eternal earthling. Would you be so kind as to provide us with the data you have managed to collect over these millions of millenia? Where did the dinosaurs go? Was it man that hastened their demise by following them on this Earth by 150,000,000? |
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"Calif Bill" wrote in message ink.net... http://www.telegraph.co.uk/opinion/m...9/ixworld.html Now see what you started Bill? ;-) Everyone has an opinion...................no one is going to change the opinion of others.........as with politics and religion..........the beat goes on................................ Of more importance to me at this moment..........I will be washing the windows on the house tomorrow, replacing some exterior lighting wiring and fixtures, getting the summer stuff out of the shed, getting the lawn equipment started and putting the snow blower to bed. Friday I haul my boat to the marina and start working on her. It was a long winter (a tie in to the original topic). Carry on folks. |
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" JimH" jimh_osudad@yahooDOT comREMOVETHIS wrote in message ... "Calif Bill" wrote in message ink.net... http://www.telegraph.co.uk/opinion/m...9/ixworld.html Now see what you started Bill? ;-) Everyone has an opinion...................no one is going to change the opinion of others.........as with politics and religion..........the beat goes on................................ Of more importance to me at this moment..........I will be washing the windows on the house tomorrow, replacing some exterior lighting wiring and fixtures, getting the summer stuff out of the shed, getting the lawn equipment started and putting the snow blower to bed. Friday I haul my boat to the marina and start working on her. It was a long winter (a tie in to the original topic). Carry on folks. We have so much rain, can not go boating in the rivers. Closed to boat traffic. Can not finish the house painting. Raining. 28 of the last 29 days. Ma Nature must think we are Oregon. They require 10 dry days before finishing the replaster of the pool. Maybe June? http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/articl...NG6EI83BM5.DTL |
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"Calif Bill" wrote in message nk.net... " JimH" jimh_osudad@yahooDOT comREMOVETHIS wrote in message ... "Calif Bill" wrote in message ink.net... http://www.telegraph.co.uk/opinion/m...9/ixworld.html Now see what you started Bill? ;-) Everyone has an opinion...................no one is going to change the opinion of others.........as with politics and religion..........the beat goes on................................ Of more importance to me at this moment..........I will be washing the windows on the house tomorrow, replacing some exterior lighting wiring and fixtures, getting the summer stuff out of the shed, getting the lawn equipment started and putting the snow blower to bed. Friday I haul my boat to the marina and start working on her. It was a long winter (a tie in to the original topic). Carry on folks. We have so much rain, can not go boating in the rivers. Closed to boat traffic. Can not finish the house painting. Raining. 28 of the last 29 days. Ma Nature must think we are Oregon. They require 10 dry days before finishing the replaster of the pool. Maybe June? http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/articl...NG6EI83BM5.DTL Sorry to read that Bill. I spent a lot of time in the SF/Oakland area and was able to see many of the waterfront attractions in SF and Sausalito areas. How lucky you are to live in such a nice area of the country, although you certainly pay the price with housing and the general cost of living there. |
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All the people I've heard saying this are right-wingers who
claim it's what the enviro-whackos & "the left" are saying. No scientists, no Greens, no environmentalists, and no Democrats are saying it at all. But that's OK, it makes it easy to tell where people get their info from. Shortwave Sportfishing wrote: You mean like MIT? When did the Wall Street Journal's op-ed become a division a MIT? http://www.opinionjournal.com/extra/?id=110008220 Oh - wait, this is terribly inconvenient for your side. "My side" is the side that wants to put "conserve" back in conservatism. I guess you're claiming to be on the 'let's make a quick buck screwing the environment while it lasts' side? Feel free to ignore it. :) Ignore a guy who claims the Bush Administration is handing out science grants based on favoritism to liberals? Ignore a guy who claims he was intimidated by Al Gore? Not likely. I'd like to see what his environmental science observations are. But as for his political speechifyin', as far as I care you can trumpet it from the housetops. It's the same paranoid nonsense that from day one has been embarassing what few neo-cons aren't totally whacko. DSK |
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DSK wrote: All the people I've heard saying this are right-wingers who claim it's what the enviro-whackos & "the left" are saying. No scientists, no Greens, no environmentalists, and no Democrats are saying it at all. But that's OK, it makes it easy to tell where people get their info from. Shortwave Sportfishing wrote: You mean like MIT? When did the Wall Street Journal's op-ed become a division a MIT? http://www.opinionjournal.com/extra/?id=110008220 Oh - wait, this is terribly inconvenient for your side. "My side" is the side that wants to put "conserve" back in conservatism. I guess you're claiming to be on the 'let's make a quick buck screwing the environment while it lasts' side? Feel free to ignore it. :) Ignore a guy who claims the Bush Administration is handing out science grants based on favoritism to liberals? Ignore a guy who claims he was intimidated by Al Gore? Not likely. I'd like to see what his environmental science observations are. But as for his political speechifyin', as far as I care you can trumpet it from the housetops. It's the same paranoid nonsense that from day one has been embarassing what few neo-cons aren't totally whacko. DSK How is boating on your end DSK? Tell us about your boat. Do you own one? |
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http://www.opinionjournal.com/extra/?id=110008220
I'd like to see what his environmental science observations are. But as for his political speechifyin', as far as I care you can trumpet it from the housetops. It's the same paranoid nonsense that from day one has been embarassing what few neo-cons aren't totally whacko. JimH wrote: How is boating on your end DSK? Tell us about your boat. Do you own one? just fine thanks. You? http://community.webshots.com/album/63279185YQtgSA Did you and Tom jump in here to holler "Me Too!" for the likes of Bert Robbins? Who never once has ever posted anything about a boat, and now you're challenging me? Get a grip dudes. That alone should tell you something. Regards Doug King |
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So go out and enjoy your boat Doug. ;-)
BTW: Do not group me with Bert or anyone else here. Instead try to address my questions/comments directly in the future. Some words of advice: You are not going to change the world by posting your OT crap here or at any other NG or forum. Instead, relax and post boating related questions here. Take a deep breath...........exhale...................inhale.. .................exhale.............inhale....... Aaaaaaaaaaaauuuuuuuuummmmmmmmmmmm.............;-) |
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JimH wrote:
So go out and enjoy your boat Doug. ;-) We definitely will, starting tomorrow afternoon. BTW: Do not group me with Bert or anyone else here. Why not? You have certainly sided with him rather definitely, and this isn't the first time either. Some words of advice: You are not going to change the world by posting your OT crap here Why do you rebuke me and not the 4 or 5 Bush-Cheney Cheerleaders who have posted more "OT crap" than I have? I did not start this thread. DSK |
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Sorry Doug.............I am siding with no one.
Enjoy your time on your boat tomorrow. Let us know how it goes. |
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Shortwave Sportfishing wrote:
Heh - about what I figured. Doesn't fit your scenario. What he says about science grants doesn't fit the reality of what has been happening in this country for the past 5 years. And that's your whole schtick Doug - ignore everything but what fits your narrow definition of truth. ??? Does anybody else see the self-contradiction & irony in this post? Let's review what I said: DSK wrote: I'd like to see what his environmental science observations are. Yep that's what I thought I said... What am I ignoring here? Shortwave Sportfishing wrote: Your more conservative than I am in an odd kind of way. And I get rebuked for it, too. DSK |
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... Does anybody else see the self-contradiction & irony in this post? Sometimes comfort trumps everything else. There's absolutely nothing you can do about it. |
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"Bert Robbins" wrote in message . .. "basskisser" wrote in message oups.com... Calif Bill wrote: "Bryan" wrote in message ... "Calif Bill" wrote in message ink.net... "Doug Kanter" wrote in message ... "Calif Bill" wrote in message ink.net... http://www.telegraph.co.uk/opinion/m...9/ixworld.html Feel free to join the previous cluster **** on this same subject, begun by your clone, Bert. :-) Maybe your son will learn something when he travels Europe. What's in Europe that his son might learn (seriously, not trying to get between you and Doug)? His son is going to Europe on a school trip. And travel is supposed to broaden your horizons. His mind is made up that the global warming is man caused. Will not consider that the earth is always heating and cooling and it may be mother nature and not just man. Why is Mars also warming at the same time? Mars Rovers? You do realize, don't you, Bill, that the warming is happening at a pace that hasn't happened before? And you also realize, that just because there is a cyclic warming and cooling that is astronomy based, doesn't mean that man hasn't had a profound influence on that warming, don't you? Kevin, I didn't know you are the eternal earthling. Would you be so kind as to provide us with the data you have managed to collect over these millions of millenia? Where did the dinosaurs go? Was it man that hastened their demise by following them on this Earth by 150,000,000? As with all the chicken little "the sky is falling" global warming alarmists, they arrogantly believe that they know better than anyone else, that anyone that disagrees with their "religion" is a paid shill, ignorant etc. etc. Too bad they don't look in mirror |
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JimH wrote:
So go out and enjoy your boat Doug. ;-) BTW: Do not group me with Bert or anyone else here. Instead try to address my questions/comments directly in the future. Some words of advice: You are not going to change the world by posting your OT crap here or at any other NG or forum. Instead, relax and post boating related questions here. Take a deep breath...........exhale...................inhale.. .................exhale.............inhale....... Aaaaaaaaaaaauuuuuuuuummmmmmmmmmmm.............;-) Giddle up. |
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"Shortwave Sportfishing" wrote in message ... On Thu, 13 Apr 2006 01:25:54 GMT, "Doug Kanter" wrote: "DSK" wrote in message .. . Does anybody else see the self-contradiction & irony in this post? Sometimes comfort trumps everything else. There's absolutely nothing you can do about it. That's unfair. Locking out a scientist of the discussion because he believes differently is the whole issue - not so much what he believes or doesn't believe. What you and my friend Doug King are ignoring is that the discussion is limited only to those to believe that it's happening. Those who don't believe, even though they are respected and highly placed scientists, are being frozen out of the discussion for whatever reason. That was the whole point of the article. Secondly, geoscience is still inexact. Does man affect the environment? Yes - all silly crap aside, it has to happen just as part of being in a civilization. Is it as desperate as some think, I don't believe so. Where the storms of last summer due to "global warming"? If you know any kind of science at all, you have to recognize that it has more to do with the solar cycle than anything else - that's what drives our terrestrial weather systems - the energy system. Even scientists on the pro-warming debate admit that. You can't have a scientific debate about this if you shut every scientist who disagrees out of the process. There is no consensus if you do that and the debate becomes useless because it's only politics at that point. All sensible, but I wonder what some will say ***IF***, someday, it is shown that we really ARE screwing things up in a big way. |
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"Reggie Smithers" wrote in message ... JimH wrote: So go out and enjoy your boat Doug. ;-) BTW: Do not group me with Bert or anyone else here. Instead try to address my questions/comments directly in the future. Some words of advice: You are not going to change the world by posting your OT crap here or at any other NG or forum. Instead, relax and post boating related questions here. Take a deep breath...........exhale...................inhale.. .................exhale.............inhale....... Aaaaaaaaaaaauuuuuuuuummmmmmmmmmmm.............;-) Giddle up. Hey dummy, it's 'giddyup' not 'giddle up'. Jeesh. |
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"Shortwave Sportfishing" wrote in message ... On Thu, 13 Apr 2006 11:32:52 GMT, "Doug Kanter" wrote: "Shortwave Sportfishing" wrote in message . .. On Thu, 13 Apr 2006 01:25:54 GMT, "Doug Kanter" wrote: "DSK" wrote in message .. . Does anybody else see the self-contradiction & irony in this post? Sometimes comfort trumps everything else. There's absolutely nothing you can do about it. That's unfair. Locking out a scientist of the discussion because he believes differently is the whole issue - not so much what he believes or doesn't believe. What you and my friend Doug King are ignoring is that the discussion is limited only to those to believe that it's happening. Those who don't believe, even though they are respected and highly placed scientists, are being frozen out of the discussion for whatever reason. That was the whole point of the article. Secondly, geoscience is still inexact. Does man affect the environment? Yes - all silly crap aside, it has to happen just as part of being in a civilization. Is it as desperate as some think, I don't believe so. Where the storms of last summer due to "global warming"? If you know any kind of science at all, you have to recognize that it has more to do with the solar cycle than anything else - that's what drives our terrestrial weather systems - the energy system. Even scientists on the pro-warming debate admit that. You can't have a scientific debate about this if you shut every scientist who disagrees out of the process. There is no consensus if you do that and the debate becomes useless because it's only politics at that point. All sensible, but I wonder what some will say ***IF***, someday, it is shown that we really ARE screwing things up in a big way. Then it's screwed up - there's nothing you can do about it now anyway. If it is screwed up, then it's already screwed up and nothing you can do about it to stop it - it's going to accelerate exponentially if it truly exists. So far, nothing seems to indicate that. Everybody is more than willing to blame the advance of industrialization,but they are completely ignoring natural cycles and causes. The whole panic over the "ozone" hole thing is a good example - it has a natural cycle that happens to coincide with, 11, 100, 1000, 1000000, etc. cycles of the sun. The discourse needs to be broadened and inclusive of all points of view rather than just adhering to Al Gore's. Tom, I'm not ignoring natural cycles. I just accept that certain occurrences can't always be blamed on one clear factor, nor can one factor always be discounted, either. A couple of months ago, there was a scientist in the news saying exactly this about the relationship between illness and toxic chemicals in food & water. Complex systems - you know about these, and the weather's probably the best example we have. |
Global Warming? Clinton ended it.
JimH wrote:
"Reggie Smithers" wrote in message ... JimH wrote: So go out and enjoy your boat Doug. ;-) BTW: Do not group me with Bert or anyone else here. Instead try to address my questions/comments directly in the future. Some words of advice: You are not going to change the world by posting your OT crap here or at any other NG or forum. Instead, relax and post boating related questions here. Take a deep breath...........exhale...................inhale.. .................exhale.............inhale....... Aaaaaaaaaaaauuuuuuuuummmmmmmmmmmm.............;-) Giddle up. Hey dummy, it's 'giddyup' not 'giddle up'. Jeesh. It is nice to see you doing a great job of Netcopping the NG. |
Global Warming? Clinton ended it.
"Reggie Smithers" wrote in message . .. JimH wrote: "Reggie Smithers" wrote in message ... JimH wrote: So go out and enjoy your boat Doug. ;-) BTW: Do not group me with Bert or anyone else here. Instead try to address my questions/comments directly in the future. Some words of advice: You are not going to change the world by posting your OT crap here or at any other NG or forum. Instead, relax and post boating related questions here. Take a deep breath...........exhale...................inhale.. .................exhale.............inhale....... Aaaaaaaaaaaauuuuuuuuummmmmmmmmmmm.............;-) Giddle up. Hey dummy, it's 'giddyup' not 'giddle up'. Jeesh. It is nice to see you doing a great job of Netcopping the NG. Thanks. Giddyup! |
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