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More Refit photos, I hope
wrote in message oups.com... I kinda forgot what your boat looked like. It's awesome. I love the look of a classic boat. Is that prep work on the bow section of the hull being done for a thruster by any chance? RCE |
More Refit photos, I hope
thunder wrote: On Fri, 10 Mar 2006 11:38:44 -0800, chuckgould.chuck wrote: Note for the faint of heart or those not accustomed to work in progress around a boatyard. See if this tiny url takes you to 7 photos of my boat being torn apart. :-) http://tinyurl.com/zkw6s IIRC, you had a faux funnel for your propane tank. Is that the circular area in one of those pics? Was that the cause of some of that water intrusion? By the way, I did like that funnel. The false stack has been removed from the cabin top just temporarily. Some of the cabin leaks were coming down from the false stack area. The rust in the circular area on the cabin top is the result of the propane tank frame becoming corroded. Now that the false stack has been removed and it's possible to do a thorough inspection it appears that there was an improper seal where the propane plumbing penetrated the cabin top, and the water was dripping onto the headliner below. As the false stack is on centerline, the water would follow the crown of the headliner to the point where it intersected the cabin walls and then migrate onto the veneers. Fortunately, most of the superstructure on this boat is FRP, (although the bulkheads are marine ply), so the water damage is primarily cosmetic. The false stack goes back on when the seal is remedied. I'll also need a new propane tank frame, even though the tanks are only about 3 years old. |
More Refit photos, I hope
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oups.com... RCE wrote: wrote in message oups.com... I kinda forgot what your boat looked like. It's awesome. I love the look of a classic boat. Is that prep work on the bow section of the hull being done for a thruster by any chance? RCE I was originally planning to have the bottom stripped, a couple of barrier coats applied, and then follow with new bottom paint. When they began stripping the bottom (the light area you see just aft of the stem on the starboard side) they discovered some small blisters that had been previously hidden by a build up of bottom paint. As there is no point putting a barrier coat over existing blisters, I had to decide whether or not to peel the gel coat and skinout mat down the the laminate and rebuild with a couple of layers of vinylester. The yard did two test peels and used a moisture meter to confirm that the laminate is dry and the blisters are merely cosmetic. Cosmetic blisters I can live with, especially since a bottom peel would be another $8k or so. :-) I will be getting a bow thruster. (I am so ashamed!) Actually, my new attitude toward bow thrusters is a lot like my evolved attitude toward gps plotters, etc: As long as you don't actually *need one* on a regular basis, its OK to have for those odd times when even X years of experience won't overcome Mother Nature and you just absolutely, positively, have to bring the bow around through the wind. A bow thruster is no substitute for helmsmanship, but after all these years successfully handling my single screw boat I don't have to prove that I can do it. There are also times when experience and helmsmanship are no substitutes for a bow thruster- and when those times come around I'll be ready. :-) A bow thruster will come in handy when you're docking and you notice terrorists about to blow up the gas pumps, so you're steering with one hand, shooting with the other, and talking to the CG at the same time. On normal days, I doubt you'll need the thrusters. |
More Refit photos, I hope
wrote in message oups.com... RCE wrote: wrote in message oups.com... I kinda forgot what your boat looked like. It's awesome. I love the look of a classic boat. Is that prep work on the bow section of the hull being done for a thruster by any chance? RCE I was originally planning to have the bottom stripped, a couple of barrier coats applied, and then follow with new bottom paint. When they began stripping the bottom (the light area you see just aft of the stem on the starboard side) they discovered some small blisters that had been previously hidden by a build up of bottom paint. As there is no point putting a barrier coat over existing blisters, I had to decide whether or not to peel the gel coat and skinout mat down the the laminate and rebuild with a couple of layers of vinylester. The yard did two test peels and used a moisture meter to confirm that the laminate is dry and the blisters are merely cosmetic. Cosmetic blisters I can live with, especially since a bottom peel would be another $8k or so. :-) I will be getting a bow thruster. (I am so ashamed!) Actually, my new attitude toward bow thrusters is a lot like my evolved attitude toward gps plotters, etc: As long as you don't actually *need one* on a regular basis, its OK to have for those odd times when even X years of experience won't overcome Mother Nature and you just absolutely, positively, have to bring the bow around through the wind. A bow thruster is no substitute for helmsmanship, but after all these years successfully handling my single screw boat I don't have to prove that I can do it. There are also times when experience and helmsmanship are no substitutes for a bow thruster- and when those times come around I'll be ready. :-) Why ashamed? Nothing wrong with having a thruster available for those unexpected "moments", and your style boat with a single screw is a perfect candidate for one, even with your experience. I have both a bow and stern thruster, although neither are working at the moment. (The "joysticks" have a solid state relay in them that are notorious for going bad on a regular basis). When I first got the boat I used them every time if I felt I was "loosing" it, which at first was about every time I docked. The Navigator has a 15.5 foot beam and you can't see the stern when piloting from the flybridge. The first slip I had the boat in had exactly 6 inches clearance on each side of the boat when backing in. My wife used to have to stand in the cockpit with her arms up in the air and pointing with her hands the direction I had to move to avoid hitting the end of the finger piers. After a while, I got good at judging where the boat was relative to the fingers and rarely had to use the thruster. There was one time though, on the way to Florida, when we stopped for fuel and the only available slot was a parallel parking type situation with maybe 55 feet from the stern of the boat in front of me and the bow of the boat behind me. My boat's LOA is 52' 8". A bunch of nervous dock hands stood by as I approached the opening in the dock, then relaxed when I simply pulled up parallel to the opening and walked the boat in sideways with short bursts from the thrusters. Can't beat 'em in close quarter maneuvering. Looking forward to your progress pictures. RCE |
More Refit photos, I hope
wrote in message ups.com... thunder wrote: On Fri, 10 Mar 2006 11:38:44 -0800, chuckgould.chuck wrote: Note for the faint of heart or those not accustomed to work in progress around a boatyard. See if this tiny url takes you to 7 photos of my boat being torn apart. :-) http://tinyurl.com/zkw6s IIRC, you had a faux funnel for your propane tank. Is that the circular area in one of those pics? Was that the cause of some of that water intrusion? By the way, I did like that funnel. The false stack has been removed from the cabin top just temporarily. Some of the cabin leaks were coming down from the false stack area. The rust in the circular area on the cabin top is the result of the propane tank frame becoming corroded. Now that the false stack has been removed and it's possible to do a thorough inspection it appears that there was an improper seal where the propane plumbing penetrated the cabin top, and the water was dripping onto the headliner below. As the false stack is on centerline, the water would follow the crown of the headliner to the point where it intersected the cabin walls and then migrate onto the veneers. Fortunately, most of the superstructure on this boat is FRP, (although the bulkheads are marine ply), so the water damage is primarily cosmetic. The false stack goes back on when the seal is remedied. I'll also need a new propane tank frame, even though the tanks are only about 3 years old. Thanks for the update. Great project to follow from the other side of the sate where it seems to be winter still. Dan |
More Refit photos, I hope
OK, color me thick as a brick. I seem to be the only one with this
problem, but when I click the link, it takes me to a sign in page with Chuck's email address filled in, but prompting me for a password, which I do not possess. Twenty other people have managed to maneuver around the gatekeeper, but not me. Lil' help, please? |
More Refit photos, I hope
"RG" wrote in message ups.com... OK, color me thick as a brick. I seem to be the only one with this problem, but when I click the link, it takes me to a sign in page with Chuck's email address filled in, but prompting me for a password, which I do not possess. Twenty other people have managed to maneuver around the gatekeeper, but not me. Lil' help, please? Might depend on what link you used and when. When Chuck first set this up his original link didn't work for anybody. I suspect he did not enable public viewing of the pictures. He corrected whatever the issue was and the links now work ok. I don't have the current one .... maybe he will repost it. RCE |
More Refit photos, I hope
I clicked on the link in Chuck's original post in this thread (More
refit photos, I hope), which was just posted yesterday, on 3/10. Everyone who has replied to this thread seems to have gotten to the photos just fine, but not me. If I click on the same link even now, I get the same results as I described in my prior post. |
More Refit photos, I hope
"RG" wrote in message oups.com... I clicked on the link in Chuck's original post in this thread (More refit photos, I hope), which was just posted yesterday, on 3/10. Everyone who has replied to this thread seems to have gotten to the photos just fine, but not me. If I click on the same link even now, I get the same results as I described in my prior post. Guess you need a new computer. :-) I don't know what the problem is ... wish I could help. RCE |
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