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[email protected] March 10th 06 07:38 PM

More Refit photos, I hope
 
Note for the faint of heart or those not accustomed to work in progress
around a boatyard.

See if this tiny url takes you to 7 photos of my boat being torn apart.
:-)

http://tinyurl.com/zkw6s


Netsock March 10th 06 07:56 PM

More Refit photos, I hope
 
On 10 Mar 2006 11:38:44 -0800, wrote:

Note for the faint of heart or those not accustomed to work in progress
around a boatyard.

See if this tiny url takes you to 7 photos of my boat being torn apart.
:-)

http://tinyurl.com/zkw6s

Yup, links fine.

What's the repair spot on the starboard front next to the keel? Is
that collision repair?
__

"It's just about going fast...that's all..."

http://home.columbus.rr.com/ckg/

JimH March 10th 06 08:01 PM

More Refit photos, I hope
 

wrote in message
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Note for the faint of heart or those not accustomed to work in progress
around a boatyard.

See if this tiny url takes you to 7 photos of my boat being torn apart.
:-)

http://tinyurl.com/zkw6s


Nice progress. Can't wait to see her when she is done.



[email protected] March 10th 06 08:21 PM

More Refit photos, I hope
 

Netsock wrote:
On 10 Mar 2006 11:38:44 -0800, wrote:

Note for the faint of heart or those not accustomed to work in progress
around a boatyard.

See if this tiny url takes you to 7 photos of my boat being torn apart.
:-)

http://tinyurl.com/zkw6s

Yup, links fine.

What's the repair spot on the starboard front next to the keel? Is
that collision repair?
__

"It's just about going fast...that's all..."

http://home.columbus.rr.com/ckg/



No, that's where they began stripping the hull before they discovered
the cosmetic blisters. The photo of the large square "peeling" is the
test area that was done to confirm that the laminate was dry and the
blisters were merely cosmetic.


[email protected] March 10th 06 08:22 PM

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Harry Krause wrote:
wrote:
Note for the faint of heart or those not accustomed to work in progress
around a boatyard.

See if this tiny url takes you to 7 photos of my boat being torn apart.
:-)

http://tinyurl.com/zkw6s



Cool...does paint "set" in your climate?


Sure. Set up enough heaters and fans, and you can get paint to set
anywhere. :-)


Wayne.B March 10th 06 08:31 PM

More Refit photos, I hope
 
On 10 Mar 2006 11:38:44 -0800, wrote:

Note for the faint of heart or those not accustomed to work in progress
around a boatyard.

See if this tiny url takes you to 7 photos of my boat being torn apart.
:-)

http://tinyurl.com/zkw6s

It looks like you are at that state where you wonder how they will
ever get it back together again... :-)

I'm sure it will be drop dead gorgeous when they're finished.


thunder March 10th 06 08:44 PM

More Refit photos, I hope
 
On Fri, 10 Mar 2006 11:38:44 -0800, chuckgould.chuck wrote:

Note for the faint of heart or those not accustomed to work in progress
around a boatyard.

See if this tiny url takes you to 7 photos of my boat being torn apart.
:-)

http://tinyurl.com/zkw6s


IIRC, you had a faux funnel for your propane tank. Is that the circular
area in one of those pics? Was that the cause of some of that water
intrusion? By the way, I did like that funnel.


[email protected] March 10th 06 08:46 PM

More Refit photos, I hope
 

Wayne.B wrote:
On 10 Mar 2006 11:38:44 -0800, wrote:

Note for the faint of heart or those not accustomed to work in progress
around a boatyard.

See if this tiny url takes you to 7 photos of my boat being torn apart.
:-)

http://tinyurl.com/zkw6s

It looks like you are at that state where you wonder how they will
ever get it back together again... :-)

I'm sure it will be drop dead gorgeous when they're finished.


I fell in love with this boat when she was 10 years old. (Can't you be
sent to prison for that, or something?). I've never seen her looking
"new", but if she looks as good or better than she did in the early
90's she will be a head turner once again. :-)


Doug Kanter March 10th 06 09:04 PM

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"Harry Krause" wrote in message
. ..
wrote:
Harry Krause wrote:
wrote:
Note for the faint of heart or those not accustomed to work in progress
around a boatyard.

See if this tiny url takes you to 7 photos of my boat being torn apart.
:-)

http://tinyurl.com/zkw6s


Cool...does paint "set" in your climate?


Sure. Set up enough heaters and fans, and you can get paint to set
anywhere. :-)


You've really got a lovely boat there, Chuckster.


Chuckster??? Are you wearing a polo shirt with a turned up collar?



Don White March 10th 06 09:20 PM

More Refit photos, I hope
 
wrote:
Netsock wrote:

On 10 Mar 2006 11:38:44 -0800,
wrote:


Note for the faint of heart or those not accustomed to work in progress
around a boatyard.

See if this tiny url takes you to 7 photos of my boat being torn apart.
:-)

http://tinyurl.com/zkw6s

Yup, links fine.

What's the repair spot on the starboard front next to the keel? Is
that collision repair?
__

"It's just about going fast...that's all..."

http://home.columbus.rr.com/ckg/




No, that's where they began stripping the hull before they discovered
the cosmetic blisters. The photo of the large square "peeling" is the
test area that was done to confirm that the laminate was dry and the
blisters were merely cosmetic.


That's the style of boat I wish my brother-in-law had bought instead of
the houseboat, open style small 'lobster boat' and the SeaDoo Sportster.
Sure would be fun cruising to Cape Breton on that.

JohnH March 10th 06 09:21 PM

More Refit photos, I hope
 
On 10 Mar 2006 11:38:44 -0800, wrote:

Note for the faint of heart or those not accustomed to work in progress
around a boatyard.

See if this tiny url takes you to 7 photos of my boat being torn apart.
:-)

http://tinyurl.com/zkw6s

Worked like a charm!
--
'Til next time,

John H

******************************************
***** Have a Spectacular Day! *****
******************************************

RCE March 10th 06 09:36 PM

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I kinda forgot what your boat looked like. It's awesome. I love the look
of a classic boat.

Is that prep work on the bow section of the hull being done for a thruster
by any chance?

RCE



[email protected] March 11th 06 12:31 AM

More Refit photos, I hope
 

thunder wrote:
On Fri, 10 Mar 2006 11:38:44 -0800, chuckgould.chuck wrote:

Note for the faint of heart or those not accustomed to work in progress
around a boatyard.

See if this tiny url takes you to 7 photos of my boat being torn apart.
:-)

http://tinyurl.com/zkw6s


IIRC, you had a faux funnel for your propane tank. Is that the circular
area in one of those pics? Was that the cause of some of that water
intrusion? By the way, I did like that funnel.


The false stack has been removed from the cabin top just temporarily.

Some of the cabin leaks were coming down from the false stack area. The
rust in the circular area on the cabin top is the result of the propane
tank frame becoming corroded.
Now that the false stack has been removed and it's possible to do a
thorough inspection it appears that there was an improper seal where
the propane plumbing penetrated the cabin top, and the water was
dripping onto the headliner below. As the false stack is on centerline,
the water would follow the crown of the headliner to the point where it
intersected the cabin walls and then migrate onto the veneers.
Fortunately, most of the superstructure on this boat is FRP, (although
the bulkheads are marine ply), so the water damage is primarily
cosmetic.

The false stack goes back on when the seal is remedied. I'll also need
a new propane tank frame, even though the tanks are only about 3 years
old.


Doug Kanter March 11th 06 12:52 AM

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wrote in message
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RCE wrote:
wrote in message
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I kinda forgot what your boat looked like. It's awesome. I love the
look
of a classic boat.

Is that prep work on the bow section of the hull being done for a
thruster
by any chance?

RCE


I was originally planning to have the bottom stripped, a couple of
barrier coats applied, and then follow with new bottom paint. When they
began stripping the bottom (the light area you see just aft of the stem
on the starboard side) they discovered some small blisters that had
been previously hidden by a build up of bottom paint. As there is no
point putting a barrier coat over existing blisters, I had to decide
whether or not to peel the gel coat and skinout mat down the the
laminate and rebuild with a couple of layers of vinylester. The yard
did two test peels and used a moisture meter to confirm that the
laminate is dry and the blisters are merely cosmetic. Cosmetic blisters
I can live with, especially since a bottom peel would be another $8k or
so. :-)

I will be getting a bow thruster. (I am so ashamed!)

Actually, my new attitude toward bow thrusters is a lot like my evolved
attitude toward
gps plotters, etc: As long as you don't actually *need one* on a
regular basis, its OK to have for those odd times when even X years of
experience won't overcome Mother Nature and you just absolutely,
positively, have to bring the bow around through the wind.

A bow thruster is no substitute for helmsmanship, but after all these
years successfully handling my single screw boat I don't have to prove
that I can do it. There are also times when experience and helmsmanship
are no substitutes for a bow thruster- and when those times come around
I'll be ready. :-)


A bow thruster will come in handy when you're docking and you notice
terrorists about to blow up the gas pumps, so you're steering with one hand,
shooting with the other, and talking to the CG at the same time. On normal
days, I doubt you'll need the thrusters.



RCE March 11th 06 01:12 AM

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wrote in message
oups.com...

RCE wrote:
wrote in message
oups.com...



I kinda forgot what your boat looked like. It's awesome. I love the
look
of a classic boat.

Is that prep work on the bow section of the hull being done for a
thruster
by any chance?

RCE


I was originally planning to have the bottom stripped, a couple of
barrier coats applied, and then follow with new bottom paint. When they
began stripping the bottom (the light area you see just aft of the stem
on the starboard side) they discovered some small blisters that had
been previously hidden by a build up of bottom paint. As there is no
point putting a barrier coat over existing blisters, I had to decide
whether or not to peel the gel coat and skinout mat down the the
laminate and rebuild with a couple of layers of vinylester. The yard
did two test peels and used a moisture meter to confirm that the
laminate is dry and the blisters are merely cosmetic. Cosmetic blisters
I can live with, especially since a bottom peel would be another $8k or
so. :-)

I will be getting a bow thruster. (I am so ashamed!)

Actually, my new attitude toward bow thrusters is a lot like my evolved
attitude toward
gps plotters, etc: As long as you don't actually *need one* on a
regular basis, its OK to have for those odd times when even X years of
experience won't overcome Mother Nature and you just absolutely,
positively, have to bring the bow around through the wind.

A bow thruster is no substitute for helmsmanship, but after all these
years successfully handling my single screw boat I don't have to prove
that I can do it. There are also times when experience and helmsmanship
are no substitutes for a bow thruster- and when those times come around
I'll be ready. :-)


Why ashamed? Nothing wrong with having a thruster available for those
unexpected "moments", and your style boat with a single screw is a perfect
candidate for one, even with your experience.

I have both a bow and stern thruster, although neither are working at the
moment. (The "joysticks" have a solid state relay in them that are notorious
for going bad on a regular basis). When I first got the boat I used them
every time if I felt I was "loosing" it, which at first was about every time
I docked.
The Navigator has a 15.5 foot beam and you can't see the stern when piloting
from the flybridge. The first slip I had the boat in had exactly 6 inches
clearance on each side of the boat when backing in. My wife used to have to
stand in the cockpit with her arms up in the air and pointing with her hands
the direction I had to move to avoid hitting the end of the finger piers.
After a while, I got good at judging where the boat was relative to the
fingers and rarely had to use the thruster.

There was one time though, on the way to Florida, when we stopped for fuel
and the only available slot was a parallel parking type situation with maybe
55 feet from the stern of the boat in front of me and the bow of the boat
behind me. My boat's LOA is 52' 8". A bunch of nervous dock hands stood by
as I approached the opening in the dock, then relaxed when I simply pulled
up parallel to the opening and walked the boat in sideways with short bursts
from the thrusters.

Can't beat 'em in close quarter maneuvering.

Looking forward to your progress pictures.

RCE



Danlw March 11th 06 02:33 AM

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wrote in message
ups.com...

thunder wrote:
On Fri, 10 Mar 2006 11:38:44 -0800, chuckgould.chuck wrote:

Note for the faint of heart or those not accustomed to work in progress
around a boatyard.

See if this tiny url takes you to 7 photos of my boat being torn apart.
:-)

http://tinyurl.com/zkw6s


IIRC, you had a faux funnel for your propane tank. Is that the circular
area in one of those pics? Was that the cause of some of that water
intrusion? By the way, I did like that funnel.


The false stack has been removed from the cabin top just temporarily.

Some of the cabin leaks were coming down from the false stack area. The
rust in the circular area on the cabin top is the result of the propane
tank frame becoming corroded.
Now that the false stack has been removed and it's possible to do a
thorough inspection it appears that there was an improper seal where
the propane plumbing penetrated the cabin top, and the water was
dripping onto the headliner below. As the false stack is on centerline,
the water would follow the crown of the headliner to the point where it
intersected the cabin walls and then migrate onto the veneers.
Fortunately, most of the superstructure on this boat is FRP, (although
the bulkheads are marine ply), so the water damage is primarily
cosmetic.

The false stack goes back on when the seal is remedied. I'll also need
a new propane tank frame, even though the tanks are only about 3 years
old.


Thanks for the update. Great project to follow from the other side of the
sate where it seems to be winter still.

Dan



RG March 11th 06 09:42 PM

More Refit photos, I hope
 
OK, color me thick as a brick. I seem to be the only one with this
problem, but when I click the link, it takes me to a sign in page with
Chuck's email address filled in, but prompting me for a password, which
I do not possess. Twenty other people have managed to maneuver around
the gatekeeper, but not me. Lil' help, please?


RCE March 11th 06 10:04 PM

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"RG" wrote in message
ups.com...
OK, color me thick as a brick. I seem to be the only one with this
problem, but when I click the link, it takes me to a sign in page with
Chuck's email address filled in, but prompting me for a password, which
I do not possess. Twenty other people have managed to maneuver around
the gatekeeper, but not me. Lil' help, please?


Might depend on what link you used and when.

When Chuck first set this up his original link didn't work for anybody. I
suspect he did not enable public viewing of the pictures.

He corrected whatever the issue was and the links now work ok.

I don't have the current one .... maybe he will repost it.


RCE



RG March 11th 06 10:17 PM

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I clicked on the link in Chuck's original post in this thread (More
refit photos, I hope), which was just posted yesterday, on 3/10.
Everyone who has replied to this thread seems to have gotten to the
photos just fine, but not me. If I click on the same link even now, I
get the same results as I described in my prior post.


RCE March 11th 06 10:22 PM

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"RG" wrote in message
oups.com...
I clicked on the link in Chuck's original post in this thread (More
refit photos, I hope), which was just posted yesterday, on 3/10.
Everyone who has replied to this thread seems to have gotten to the
photos just fine, but not me. If I click on the same link even now, I
get the same results as I described in my prior post.


Guess you need a new computer. :-)

I don't know what the problem is ... wish I could help.


RCE



JimH March 11th 06 10:37 PM

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"RG" wrote in message
oups.com...
I clicked on the link in Chuck's original post in this thread (More
refit photos, I hope), which was just posted yesterday, on 3/10.
Everyone who has replied to this thread seems to have gotten to the
photos just fine, but not me. If I click on the same link even now, I
get the same results as I described in my prior post.


It worked yesterday but is now asking for a password.



RCE March 11th 06 10:53 PM

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" JimH" jimh_osudad@yahooDOT comREMOVETHIS wrote in message
. ..

"RG" wrote in message
oups.com...
I clicked on the link in Chuck's original post in this thread (More
refit photos, I hope), which was just posted yesterday, on 3/10.
Everyone who has replied to this thread seems to have gotten to the
photos just fine, but not me. If I click on the same link even now, I
get the same results as I described in my prior post.


It worked yesterday but is now asking for a password.


Chuck musta added some pics and forgot to make them available to the public.

RCE



thunder March 12th 06 01:00 AM

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On Sat, 11 Mar 2006 13:42:15 -0800, RG wrote:

OK, color me thick as a brick. I seem to be the only one with this
problem, but when I click the link, it takes me to a sign in page with
Chuck's email address filled in, but prompting me for a password, which I
do not possess. Twenty other people have managed to maneuver around the
gatekeeper, but not me. Lil' help, please?


Try this link:

http://www.kodakgallery.com/Slidesho...8&conn_speed=1

I think the tinyurl might of expired.

Doug Kanter March 12th 06 04:31 AM

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"RCE" wrote in message
...

"RG" wrote in message
ups.com...
OK, color me thick as a brick. I seem to be the only one with this
problem, but when I click the link, it takes me to a sign in page with
Chuck's email address filled in, but prompting me for a password, which
I do not possess. Twenty other people have managed to maneuver around
the gatekeeper, but not me. Lil' help, please?


Might depend on what link you used and when.

When Chuck first set this up his original link didn't work for anybody. I
suspect he did not enable public viewing of the pictures.

He corrected whatever the issue was and the links now work ok.

I don't have the current one .... maybe he will repost it.


RCE


How can you not have the current one? You're using Outlook Express, same as
I am. I show all messages in the thread back to the beginning.



RCE March 12th 06 05:51 AM

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"Doug Kanter" wrote in message
...

"RCE" wrote in message
...

"RG" wrote in message
ups.com...
OK, color me thick as a brick. I seem to be the only one with this
problem, but when I click the link, it takes me to a sign in page with
Chuck's email address filled in, but prompting me for a password, which
I do not possess. Twenty other people have managed to maneuver around
the gatekeeper, but not me. Lil' help, please?


Might depend on what link you used and when.

When Chuck first set this up his original link didn't work for anybody.
I suspect he did not enable public viewing of the pictures.

He corrected whatever the issue was and the links now work ok.

I don't have the current one .... maybe he will repost it.


RCE


How can you not have the current one? You're using Outlook Express, same
as I am. I show all messages in the thread back to the beginning.


I have it set to "hide read messages" and am too lazy to reset it to "show
all messages" or "show downloaded messages" and try to find it.

RCE



Doug Kanter March 12th 06 01:17 PM

More Refit photos, I hope
 

"RCE" wrote in message
...

"Doug Kanter" wrote in message
...

"RCE" wrote in message
...

"RG" wrote in message
ups.com...
OK, color me thick as a brick. I seem to be the only one with this
problem, but when I click the link, it takes me to a sign in page with
Chuck's email address filled in, but prompting me for a password, which
I do not possess. Twenty other people have managed to maneuver around
the gatekeeper, but not me. Lil' help, please?

Might depend on what link you used and when.

When Chuck first set this up his original link didn't work for anybody.
I suspect he did not enable public viewing of the pictures.

He corrected whatever the issue was and the links now work ok.

I don't have the current one .... maybe he will repost it.


RCE


How can you not have the current one? You're using Outlook Express, same
as I am. I show all messages in the thread back to the beginning.


I have it set to "hide read messages" and am too lazy to reset it to "show
all messages" or "show downloaded messages" and try to find it.

RCE


Don't you use the "watch conversation" feature? Combine that with sorting
correctly, and following the threads is a breeze.



[email protected] March 12th 06 04:58 PM

More Refit photos, I hope, new tiny url
 

RG wrote:
OK, color me thick as a brick. I seem to be the only one with this
problem, but when I click the link, it takes me to a sign in page with
Chuck's email address filled in, but prompting me for a password, which
I do not possess. Twenty other people have managed to maneuver around
the gatekeeper, but not me. Lil' help, please?



Here's a new tiny url, see if this helps at all.

http://tinyurl.com/eg9r6


RG March 12th 06 05:21 PM

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wrote in message
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Here's a new tiny url, see if this helps at all.

http://tinyurl.com/eg9r6


That worked. Thanks!






UglyDan®©™ March 12th 06 09:20 PM

More Refit photos, I hope, new tiny url
 
Wow, That looks like a fairly large shop, Nice to be inside for all that
type work.
Do they have any DIY shops up there now?

I did a dive job for Trident up there a few years ago, and remember
thinking some of those empty waterfront warehouse space's would be ideal
for overhaul/refit's. I doubt for the DIY you could get that type space
nowday's the way insurance, and DOE laws are now.
Prolly been slated for condo's anyway. UD






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