OT Political - liberal views on the rise
 

Whoops, did I say on the rise? Sorry I was thinking about something
else...

AIR AMERICA TUNED OUT?
http://www.nypost.com/entertainment/60684.htm

AIR America is close to losing its New York flagship station - knocking
Al Franken and his liberal colleagues off the air on their second
anniversary.
The network has a two-year lease with WLIB (AM 1190) that is reportedly
set to expire April 1 - and at least one reliable report says it is
"extremely likely" the deal will not be renewed.

Losing its New York outlet would be a serious blow to the fledgling
liberal radio network. "Radio Equalizer" blogger Brian Maloney - who
blew the whistle on questionable loans to the lefty network last year -
published the first report that WLIB was on the verge of evicting Air
America some time soon.


Air America's options for a new home are not promising. All of the
city's other strong-signal stations are spoken for, leaving only
weak-signal "fringe" stations that do not cover the entire city and
suburbs.

Air America parent Piquant LLC has reportedly been paying Inner City
Broadcasting - controlled by former Manhattan Borough President Percy
Sutton and his son, Pierre - $2.5 million a year to air Franken and
others.

An Air America spokeswoman told The Post, "It's business as usual," and
declined further comment.

Air America got unwanted headlines last year when it was learned that
previous management had received what investigators called an
"inappropriate" $875,000 loan - since repaid - from a Bronx charity.

Calls to Inner City execs were not returned.

OT Political - liberal views on the rise
 

"Mule" wrote in message
oups.com...
Whoops, did I say on the rise? Sorry I was thinking about something
else...

AIR AMERICA TUNED OUT?
http://www.nypost.com/entertainment/60684.htm

AIR America is close to losing its New York flagship station - knocking
Al Franken and his liberal colleagues off the air on their second
anniversary.
The network has a two-year lease with WLIB (AM 1190) that is reportedly
set to expire April 1 - and at least one reliable report says it is
"extremely likely" the deal will not be renewed.

Losing its New York outlet would be a serious blow to the fledgling
liberal radio network. "Radio Equalizer" blogger Brian Maloney - who
blew the whistle on questionable loans to the lefty network last year -
published the first report that WLIB was on the verge of evicting Air
America some time soon.


Air America's options for a new home are not promising. All of the
city's other strong-signal stations are spoken for, leaving only
weak-signal "fringe" stations that do not cover the entire city and
suburbs.

Air America parent Piquant LLC has reportedly been paying Inner City
Broadcasting - controlled by former Manhattan Borough President Percy
Sutton and his son, Pierre - $2.5 million a year to air Franken and
others.

An Air America spokeswoman told The Post, "It's business as usual," and
declined further comment.

Air America got unwanted headlines last year when it was learned that
previous management had received what investigators called an
"inappropriate" $875,000 loan - since repaid - from a Bronx charity.

Calls to Inner City execs were not returned.


People see through liberal lies. It gets old quick.

OT Political - liberal views on the rise
 

Mule wrote:
Whoops, did I say on the rise? Sorry I was thinking about something
else...


In fact, you were so distracted you dumped this off topic political
bull**** right into the wrong newsgroup.

OT Political - liberal views on the rise
 

"Dan J.S." wrote in message
...


People see through liberal lies. It gets old quick.


Which liberal views are NOT lies? Thank you think of any?

OT Political - liberal views on the rise
 

Dan J.S. wrote:

People see through liberal lies. It gets old quick.

Good grief, Dan. The very *title of this thread* was a lie, or at least
a deliberate deception. Why not go find one of the hundreds of NG's
where right wingers congregate to GD people who don't subscribe to
their particular values and thought patterns? You could take this
thread, and the self-proclaimed jackass with you.


Come on back when you want to talk about boats. :-)

Have a happy Tuesday.

OT Political - liberal views on the rise
 

There are plenty of off topic posts here and most are left leaning.
Why did you get your panties in a bunch over this one?

OT Political - liberal views on the rise
 

wrote in message
ups.com...

Dan J.S. wrote:

People see through liberal lies. It gets old quick.

Good grief, Dan. The very *title of this thread* was a lie, or at least
a deliberate deception. Why not go find one of the hundreds of NG's
where right wingers congregate to GD people who don't subscribe to
their particular values and thought patterns? You could take this
thread, and the self-proclaimed jackass with you.


Come on back when you want to talk about boats. :-)

Have a happy Tuesday.


OK what boat should I get, a red one or blue one?

OT Political - liberal views on the rise
 

"azboating" wrote in message
oups.com...
There are plenty of off topic posts here and most are left leaning.
Why did you get your panties in a bunch over this one?


Good question.

OT Political - liberal views on the rise
 

"azboating" wrote
There are plenty of off topic posts here and most are left leaning.
Why did you get your panties in a bunch over this one?


JimH wrote:
Good question.


Are you, Bert Robbins, and John H, all "left leaning"? It's
difficult to figure out how "most" off-topic posts are such,
unless you either don't know right from left, or can't
friggin' count.

Maybe you guys figure "most" using the new Bush-math, the
same math which blames liberals for the budget deficit?

DSK

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azboating wrote:
There are plenty of off topic posts here and most are left leaning.
Why did you get your panties in a bunch over this one?

Fair play.

I've been ragging on the left end as well.

You see anything relevant to boating in the mule's post?
You see anything somebody would post here for any other reason than to
start a fight?

Why is it that so much of the OT stuff is essentially hateful or
divisive in nature?

You haven't been around here much lately if you think most of the
recent OT crap is leftist. Doesn't matter if it's right, left, red,
blue, democrat, republican, christian, moslem, jewish, or wiccan....if
it's posted here to start a fight nobody fricking needs it.


As for the panties, I'll leave those to the group who like to post
inflammatory crap on NG's using anonymous handles. Woo hoo. Big men.
"I'll make snide and crappy remarks and then hide behind my anonymity
or ever changing handle". Panties work well for guys like that, they
don't need any room in their underwear for balls.

OT Political - liberal views on the rise
 

"Doug Kanter" wrote in message
...
"Dan J.S." wrote in message
...


People see through liberal lies. It gets old quick.


Which liberal views are NOT lies? Thank you think of any?

What kind of a question is "Thank you think of any?"

OT Political - liberal views on the rise
 

"azboating" wrote in message
oups.com...
There are plenty of off topic posts here and most are left leaning.
Why did you get your panties in a bunch over this one?

Chuckie is trying to be the OT cop of the group. However, Chuckie needs to
clean the left lens in his glasses because he sure as hell can't see any of
the OT posts from the left.

OT Political - liberal views on the rise
 

"DSK" wrote in message
...
"azboating" wrote
There are plenty of off topic posts here and most are left leaning.
Why did you get your panties in a bunch over this one?


JimH wrote:
Good question.

Are you, Bert Robbins, and John H, all "left leaning"? It's difficult to
figure out how "most" off-topic posts are such, unless you either don't
know right from left, or can't friggin' count.

Maybe you guys figure "most" using the new Bush-math, the same math which
blames liberals for the budget deficit?


I learned my math from those liberals pushing outcome based education.

OT Political - liberal views on the rise
 

wrote in message
oups.com...

Mule wrote:
Whoops, did I say on the rise? Sorry I was thinking about something
else...


In fact, you were so distracted you dumped this off topic political
bull**** right into the wrong newsgroup.

If your fellow liberals, I mean progressives, can dump their off topic
political bull**** as well as your off topic political bull**** then why
can't others dump their off topic political bull**** into the newsgroup too?

As I said earlier clean the left lens in your glasses.

OT Political - liberal views on the rise
 

Shortwave Sportfishing wrote:
Comes from one leg being shorter by a 1/4 inch. :)

It's difficult to figure out how "most" off-topic posts are such,
unless you either don't know right from left, or can't
friggin' count.

I have this theory that the more left you become politically, the more
right politically you are and vice versa.

Many political scientist believe political philosophy is circular not
linear. Hence the more left you become, you eventually become ultra
right wing or vice versa.

So you are not alone in your theory.
--
Reggie

"That's my story and I am sticking to it."

OT Political - liberal views on the rise
 

OT Political - liberal views on the rise
 

Bert Robbins wrote:
wrote in message
oups.com...
Mule wrote:
Whoops, did I say on the rise? Sorry I was thinking about something
else...

In fact, you were so distracted you dumped this off topic political
bull**** right into the wrong newsgroup.

If your fellow liberals, I mean progressives, can dump their off topic
political bull**** as well as your off topic political bull**** then why
can't others dump their off topic political bull**** into the newsgroup too?

As I said earlier clean the left lens in your glasses.


Bert,
Chuck position on OT political posts are not based upon the viewpoint.
He has taken a very simple idea that all political posts are detrimental
to rec.boats. He has not been biased one way or the other.

--
Reggie

"That's my story and I am sticking to it."

OT Political - liberal views on the rise
 

On Tue, 07 Mar 2006 16:15:05 -0500, DSK wrote:

"azboating" wrote
There are plenty of off topic posts here and most are left leaning.
Why did you get your panties in a bunch over this one?


JimH wrote:
Good question.


Are you, Bert Robbins, and John H, all "left leaning"? It's
difficult to figure out how "most" off-topic posts are such,
unless you either don't know right from left, or can't
friggin' count.

Maybe you guys figure "most" using the new Bush-math, the
same math which blames liberals for the budget deficit?

DSK


While watching the northern lights in a stiff wind from the west, I am left
leaning.
--
'Til next time,

John H

******************************************
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******************************************

OT Political - liberal views on the rise
 

On Tue, 07 Mar 2006 19:00:58 -0500, Reggie Smithers
wrote:

wrote:

Chuck,
It looks like political BS will still clutter up the NG.

I finally took your advice and skip over most of the political crap. It
makes it must easier to read rec.boats.

Ain't it the truth?
--
'Til next time,

John H

******************************************
***** Have a Spectacular Day! *****
******************************************

OT Political - liberal views on the rise
 

On 7 Mar 2006 13:30:46 -0800, wrote:


Shortwave Sportfishing wrote:
On Tue, 7 Mar 2006 14:47:27 -0600, "Dan J.S." wrote:


wrote in message
oups.com...

Dan J.S. wrote:

People see through liberal lies. It gets old quick.

Good grief, Dan. The very *title of this thread* was a lie, or at least
a deliberate deception. Why not go find one of the hundreds of NG's
where right wingers congregate to GD people who don't subscribe to
their particular values and thought patterns? You could take this
thread, and the self-proclaimed jackass with you.


Come on back when you want to talk about boats. :-)

Have a happy Tuesday.


OK what boat should I get, a red one or blue one?

Get a red one, a white one and a blue one.

Good one. And make sure the ensign is properly red *and* blue, along
with white, of course. If you want to fly an all red ensign or an all
blue ensign, I guess that means relocating to country where everybody
thinks alike and nobody respects a difference of opinion. Sure as heck
wouldn't be the US, but there have been some recent social models in
the past 100 years or so, (many of them European), where only a single
type of thinking was considered "proper".

If one really wants to learn the meaning of red, white, and blue ensigns,
one should read all the Patrick O'Brian books.
--
'Til next time,

John H

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***** Have a Spectacular Day! *****
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OT Political - liberal views on the rise
 

On Tue, 7 Mar 2006 18:47:18 -0500, "Bert Robbins" wrote:


"Doug Kanter" wrote in message
...
"Dan J.S." wrote in message
...


People see through liberal lies. It gets old quick.


Which liberal views are NOT lies? Thank you think of any?

What kind of a question is "Thank you think of any?"


It's easier than saying 'thanks in advance'?
--
'Til next time,

John H

******************************************
***** Have a Spectacular Day! *****
******************************************

OT Political - liberal views on the rise
 

On Tue, 7 Mar 2006 18:48:37 -0500, "Bert Robbins" wrote:


"azboating" wrote in message
roups.com...
There are plenty of off topic posts here and most are left leaning.
Why did you get your panties in a bunch over this one?

Chuckie is trying to be the OT cop of the group. However, Chuckie needs to
clean the left lens in his glasses because he sure as hell can't see any of
the OT posts from the left.


How's your golf game?
--
'Til next time,

John H

******************************************
***** Have a Spectacular Day! *****
******************************************

OT Political - liberal views on the rise
 

"JohnH" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 7 Mar 2006 18:48:37 -0500, "Bert Robbins" wrote:


"azboating" wrote in message
groups.com...
There are plenty of off topic posts here and most are left leaning.
Why did you get your panties in a bunch over this one?

Chuckie is trying to be the OT cop of the group. However, Chuckie needs to
clean the left lens in his glasses because he sure as hell can't see any
of
the OT posts from the left.


How's your golf game?

I've played about 7 or 8 rounds already this year.

Are you ready to play a round?

OT Political - liberal views on the rise
 

Bert Robbins wrote:
wrote in message
oups.com...

Mule wrote:
Whoops, did I say on the rise? Sorry I was thinking about something
else...


In fact, you were so distracted you dumped this off topic political
bull**** right into the wrong newsgroup.

If your fellow liberals, I mean progressives, can dump their off topic
political bull**** as well as your off topic political bull**** then why
can't others dump their off topic political bull**** into the newsgroup too?

As I said earlier clean the left lens in your glasses.


I have been admonishing both sides pretty equally. I'm sure you don't
read any threads started by Harry Krause, but if you had read his very
recent thread about the Ayatollah somebody starting a conservative
Catholic Christian compound down in Florida, for instance, you would
have seen a disapproving reference to his hitting a "double" by
combining religion and politics in a single post.

Why does *anybody* need to dump OT political crap in here?
People who haven't got the ability to discuss boats or have no interest
in discussing boats and boating can, (for my money), shut up, sit back
and spectate or go find a group that is of actual interest to them.

Boating and discussions about boating shouldn't be f*cked up by
politics- yours or mine.

How about you, Bert? Can you see any aspect of this post at the head of
this thread that should be of interest to a boating NG? Me neither.
That means the only reason the mule posted it was to start some flame
wars and be disruptive. Screw that.

OT Political - liberal views on the rise
 

Bert Robbins wrote:
"azboating" wrote in message
oups.com...

There are plenty of off topic posts here and most are left leaning.
Why did you get your panties in a bunch over this one?


Chuckie is trying to be the OT cop of the group. However, Chuckie needs to
clean the left lens in his glasses because he sure as hell can't see any of
the OT posts from the left.



Bert...bert.... Time to get with the New World Order.

OT Political - liberal views on the rise
 

Reggie Smithers wrote:
Bert,
Chuck position on OT political posts are not based upon the viewpoint.
He has taken a very simple idea that all political posts are detrimental
to rec.boats. He has not been biased one way or the other.


I agree and it is nice to see at least one other person
feels that way. You have done a great job of refraining.

Bert seems to be a far-right Harry Krause... intent on
stirring up muck, blinded by partisanship... Harry
occasionally talks about boats, though.

DSK

OT Political - liberal views on the rise
 

"Bert Robbins" wrote in message
...

"Doug Kanter" wrote in message
...
"Dan J.S." wrote in message
...


People see through liberal lies. It gets old quick.


Which liberal views are NOT lies? Thank you think of any?

What kind of a question is "Thank you think of any?"


High speed multitasking, I guess. How about "Can you think of any?"

OT Political - liberal views on the rise
 

On Tue, 7 Mar 2006 19:37:13 -0500, "Bert Robbins" wrote:


"JohnH" wrote in message
.. .
On Tue, 7 Mar 2006 18:48:37 -0500, "Bert Robbins" wrote:


"azboating" wrote in message
egroups.com...
There are plenty of off topic posts here and most are left leaning.
Why did you get your panties in a bunch over this one?

Chuckie is trying to be the OT cop of the group. However, Chuckie needs to
clean the left lens in his glasses because he sure as hell can't see any
of
the OT posts from the left.


How's your golf game?

I've played about 7 or 8 rounds already this year.

Are you ready to play a round?




Only with someone who could put up with me. I haven't broken 100 yet. We'll
see how this summer goes.
--
'Til next time,

John H

******************************************
***** Have a Spectacular Day! *****
******************************************

OT Political - liberal views on the rise
 

JohnH wrote:

While watching the northern lights in a stiff wind from the west, I am left
leaning.
--

This is rec.boats. Take that leaning crap to alt.politics. Here is is
"listing".

OT Political - liberal views on the rise
 

"JohnH" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 7 Mar 2006 19:37:13 -0500, "Bert Robbins" wrote:


"JohnH" wrote in message
. ..
On Tue, 7 Mar 2006 18:48:37 -0500, "Bert Robbins" wrote:


"azboating" wrote in message
legroups.com...
There are plenty of off topic posts here and most are left leaning.
Why did you get your panties in a bunch over this one?

Chuckie is trying to be the OT cop of the group. However, Chuckie needs
to
clean the left lens in his glasses because he sure as hell can't see any
of
the OT posts from the left.


How's your golf game?

I've played about 7 or 8 rounds already this year.

Are you ready to play a round?

Only with someone who could put up with me. I haven't broken 100 yet.
We'll
see how this summer goes.

I'll play a round with you anytime. The score isn't the most important part
of the round.

OT Political - liberal views on the rise
 

On 8 Mar 2006 12:38:27 -0800, "basskisser" wrote:


JohnH wrote:

While watching the northern lights in a stiff wind from the west, I am left
leaning.
--

This is rec.boats. Take that leaning crap to alt.politics. Here is is
"listing".

If I'm sailing north, and the wind is from the starboard, then I'm leaning
left.
--
'Til next time,

John H

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******************************************

OT Political - liberal views on the rise
 

JohnH wrote:
If I'm sailing north, and the wind is from the starboard, then I'm leaning
left.

Not really, most sailboat seating is fore and aft rather
than athwartship. So you face the side, not the front. You'd
be leaning frontwards if you were sitting on the high side
(as most smart people do)!

DSK

OT Political - liberal views on the rise
 

On Wed, 08 Mar 2006 23:01:18 -0500, DSK wrote:

JohnH wrote:
If I'm sailing north, and the wind is from the starboard, then I'm leaning
left.

Not really, most sailboat seating is fore and aft rather
than athwartship. So you face the side, not the front. You'd
be leaning frontwards if you were sitting on the high side
(as most smart people do)!

DSK

No way would I be sitting. I'd be standing, manning the helm, trying to get
the wind gauge on my enemy.
--
'Til next time,

John H

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term correction
 

If I'm sailing north, and the wind is from the starboard, then I'm leaning
left.


basskisser wrote:
list3
n.
An inclination to one side, as of a ship; a tilt.


Sailboats heel, motorboats list.

Actually, that's still not 100% correct. As I understand it,
"heeling" is what any boat does when it leans from wind
pressure or some other temporary force. 'Listing' is leaning
to one side due to uneven loading, flooding, or perhaps a
big dent in the hull.

DSK

term correction
 

DSK wrote:
If I'm sailing north, and the wind is from the starboard, then I'm leaning
left.


basskisser wrote:
list3
n.
An inclination to one side, as of a ship; a tilt.


Sailboats heel, motorboats list.

Actually, that's still not 100% correct. As I understand it,
"heeling" is what any boat does when it leans from wind
pressure or some other temporary force. 'Listing' is leaning
to one side due to uneven loading, flooding, or perhaps a
big dent in the hull.

DSK

list3 ( P ) Pronunciation Key (lst)
n.
An inclination to one side, as of a ship; a tilt.

term correction
 

basskisser wrote:
list3 ( P ) Pronunciation Key (lst)
n.
An inclination to one side, as of a ship; a tilt.


dumbass (P) Pronunciation Key (dumm-ass)
n. a stupid person; one who repeats incorrect information

OT Political - liberal views on the rise
 

On 9 Mar 2006 04:50:53 -0800, "basskisser" wrote:


JohnH wrote:
On 8 Mar 2006 12:38:27 -0800, "basskisser" wrote:


JohnH wrote:

While watching the northern lights in a stiff wind from the west, I am left
leaning.
--

This is rec.boats. Take that leaning crap to alt.politics. Here is is
"listing".

If I'm sailing north, and the wind is from the starboard, then I'm leaning
left.
--
'Til next time,

John H

list3
n.
An inclination to one side, as of a ship; a tilt.

lean, 1 a : to incline, deviate, or bend from a vertical position

The ship may be listing or heeling, but I'm leaning.
--
'Til next time,

John H

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term correction
 

DSK wrote:
basskisser wrote:
list3 ( P ) Pronunciation Key (lst)
n.
An inclination to one side, as of a ship; a tilt.


dumbass (P) Pronunciation Key (dumm-ass)
n. a stupid person; one who repeats incorrect information

Your childish name calling does nothing positive for your credibility.
Please show how you've garnered more knowledge about the English
language than the scholars who work on various dictionaries.
The above first one was from dictionary.com

This is from Merriam Webster:
Function: noun
Etymology: origin unknown
: a deviation from the vertical : TILT; also : the extent of such a
deviation

This from Cambridge Dictionary online:
list (LEAN) Show phonetics
verb [i]
(of a ship) to lean to one side, particularly as a result of damage:
The tanker is listing badly and liable to sink at any moment.

From Microsoft Encarta:
list [ list ]


transitive and intransitive verb (past and past participle list·ed,
present participle list·ing, 3rd person present singular lists)

Definitions:

lean to one side: to lean to one side, or make a ship lean to one side




noun

Definitions:

sideways tilt: an inclination to one side, especially one developed by
a ship


[Mid-17th century. Origin ?]

so I guess that you are saying that of all the scholars and others who
have used this term since the 1600's are wrong, and you are the only
person in the universe that is right!??????

term correction
 

On 9 Mar 2006 06:22:26 -0800, "basskisser" wrote:


DSK wrote:
basskisser wrote:
list3 ( P ) Pronunciation Key (lst)
n.
An inclination to one side, as of a ship; a tilt.


dumbass (P) Pronunciation Key (dumm-ass)
n. a stupid person; one who repeats incorrect information

Your childish name calling does nothing positive for your credibility.
Please show how you've garnered more knowledge about the English
language than the scholars who work on various dictionaries.
The above first one was from dictionary.com

This is from Merriam Webster:
Function: noun
Etymology: origin unknown
: a deviation from the vertical : TILT; also : the extent of such a
deviation

This from Cambridge Dictionary online:
list (LEAN) Show phonetics
verb [i]
(of a ship) to lean to one side, particularly as a result of damage:
The tanker is listing badly and liable to sink at any moment.

From Microsoft Encarta:
list [ list ]


transitive and intransitive verb (past and past participle list·ed,
present participle list·ing, 3rd person present singular lists)

Definitions:

lean to one side: to lean to one side, or make a ship lean to one side




noun

Definitions:

sideways tilt: an inclination to one side, especially one developed by
a ship


[Mid-17th century. Origin ?]

so I guess that you are saying that of all the scholars and others who
have used this term since the 1600's are wrong, and you are the only
person in the universe that is right!??????

I believe he was contrasting the use of 'heel' with 'list'. Both could be
considered a 'lean' as far as a change from the vertical is concerned. In
my usage, 'heel' would be more appropriate as I was referring to a lean
caused by the wind, as opposed to the balance of the vessel itself.

Main Entry: 3heel
Function: verb
Etymology: alteration of Middle English heelden, from Old English hieldan;
akin to Old High German hald inclined, Lithuanian salis side, region
intransitive senses : to lean to one side : TIP; especially of a boat or
ship : to lean temporarily (as from the action of wind or waves) -- compare
LIST
transitive senses : to cause (a boat) to heel

This is most definitely 'semantics' at it's finest! I did not want to start
a flame war with my comment, and my apologies go out to all.
--
'Til next time,

John H

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term correction
 

"JohnH" wrote in message
...
On 9 Mar 2006 06:22:26 -0800, "basskisser" wrote:


DSK wrote:
basskisser wrote:
list3 ( P ) Pronunciation Key (lst)
n.
An inclination to one side, as of a ship; a tilt.


dumbass (P) Pronunciation Key (dumm-ass)
n. a stupid person; one who repeats incorrect information

Your childish name calling does nothing positive for your credibility.
Please show how you've garnered more knowledge about the English
language than the scholars who work on various dictionaries.
The above first one was from dictionary.com

This is from Merriam Webster:
Function: noun
Etymology: origin unknown
: a deviation from the vertical : TILT; also : the extent of such a
deviation

This from Cambridge Dictionary online:
list (LEAN) Show phonetics
verb [i]
(of a ship) to lean to one side, particularly as a result of damage:
The tanker is listing badly and liable to sink at any moment.

From Microsoft Encarta:
list [ list ]


transitive and intransitive verb (past and past participle list·ed,
present participle list·ing, 3rd person present singular lists)

Definitions:

lean to one side: to lean to one side, or make a ship lean to one side




noun

Definitions:

sideways tilt: an inclination to one side, especially one developed by
a ship


[Mid-17th century. Origin ?]

so I guess that you are saying that of all the scholars and others who
have used this term since the 1600's are wrong, and you are the only
person in the universe that is right!??????

I believe he was contrasting the use of 'heel' with 'list'. Both could be
considered a 'lean' as far as a change from the vertical is concerned. In
my usage, 'heel' would be more appropriate as I was referring to a lean
caused by the wind, as opposed to the balance of the vessel itself.

Main Entry: 3heel
Function: verb
Etymology: alteration of Middle English heelden, from Old English hieldan;
akin to Old High German hald inclined, Lithuanian salis side, region
intransitive senses : to lean to one side : TIP; especially of a boat or
ship : to lean temporarily (as from the action of wind or waves) --
compare
LIST
transitive senses : to cause (a boat) to heel

This is most definitely 'semantics' at it's finest! I did not want to
start
a flame war with my comment, and my apologies go out to all.
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'Til next time,

John H

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Another funny thread. Thanks.

I know who Curly is..................I just have to figure out who is Moe
and who is Larry.