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CalifBill March 8th 06 04:28 AM

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With these factors in mind, can braided fishing line (like
Berkley
Fireline) be tied directly to regular mono, or are the two
best
joined with a swivel?
Tie braid to mono with a uni to uni knot. I do it all the
time.
Swivels are too visible to fish.

Fishing test.

What's a bimini?

A knot used to double up a line. I hardly have use them.
They're a
pain in the arse to tie.




ESPECIALLY with limp braided line.

That is tied on braided line all the time on long range tuna boats
out
of
San Diego.


Perhaps on those boats, "one has someone" to do the nasty work while
one
holds one's cocktail.


That is true, you can have the crew tie it for you. Tip well.

Might as well go to the grocery store and buy the fish, just about as
much fishing involved.


Why would you say that?

Because it's a true statement. Been there, done that. Nothing exciting
about going out to "fish", have someone tie you up, bait you up, get
you down to the right depth, THEN, they let you hold the rod. Reel in
with enthusiasm when you get a 20# fish on 100# test line, then hand it
to them again so they can take the fish off for you. Have at it, but
for me, no thanks. I actually ENJOY the sport of fishing, and don't
want anybody doing it for me. If the sole purpose is to get fish to
eat, I'll go to the grocery store.


Do everything but tie the Bimini Twist. They are not hooking and handing
off on SD boats. And you can release the fish. Last trip out of Marina Del
Rey, only Calico Bass and perch biting. Kept none. Never keep Calicos.



CalifBill March 8th 06 04:29 AM

Tying braided line to regular mono
 

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Perhaps on those boats, "one has someone" to do the nasty work while
one
holds one's cocktail.


That is true, you can have the crew tie it for you. Tip well.

Might as well go to the grocery store and buy the fish, just about as
much fishing involved.


I agree. Whenever I'm someplace where there are fishing charters
available, I try not to get excited about it. Spending several hundred
dollars to bring 4 tuna steaks back to a hotel is ridiculous. I suppose
there's some value to breathing diesel fumes all day, but not to me. :-)
Now, Tom has an interesting guide/charter plan on his web site, but you
don't see that kind of thing often.


The SD long range fllet, both feeds you very well, and you have to catch
the fish. Lately they have been into a lot of 200# plus fish. So you
can take home a lot of steaks.


Depends on where I am. If I've flown somewhere and the hotel room's got no
cooking facilities, I won't even consider a charter. In that situation,
there is no "home" to take the steaks, ya know? Not worth hurting a fish.


release the fish, or give them away. I like to fish and catch fish. Do not
particularly like to eat fish.



CalifBill March 8th 06 05:52 AM

Tying braided line to regular mono
 

"Shortwave Sportfishing" wrote in message
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On Wed, 08 Mar 2006 04:28:29 GMT, "CalifBill"
wrote:

Do everything but tie the Bimini Twist. They are not hooking and handing
off on SD boats. And you can release the fish. Last trip out of Marina
Del
Rey, only Calico Bass and perch biting. Kept none. Never keep Calicos.


What's a Calico Bass in California speak?


A Checkerboard. 2-5# sal****er fish. Brown with a white checkerboard
pattern.
http://www.calfishing.com/sal****er/calico.html



CalifBill March 8th 06 07:30 PM

Tying braided line to regular mono
 

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Calif Bill wrote:
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With these factors in mind, can braided fishing line (like
Berkley
Fireline) be tied directly to regular mono, or are the two
best
joined with a swivel?
Tie braid to mono with a uni to uni knot. I do it all the
time.
Swivels are too visible to fish.

Fishing test.

What's a bimini?

A knot used to double up a line. I hardly have use them.
They're a
pain in the arse to tie.




ESPECIALLY with limp braided line.

That is tied on braided line all the time on long range tuna
boats
out
of
San Diego.


Perhaps on those boats, "one has someone" to do the nasty work
while
one
holds one's cocktail.


That is true, you can have the crew tie it for you. Tip well.

Might as well go to the grocery store and buy the fish, just about
as
much fishing involved.


Why would you say that?
Because it's a true statement. Been there, done that. Nothing exciting
about going out to "fish", have someone tie you up, bait you up, get
you down to the right depth, THEN, they let you hold the rod. Reel in
with enthusiasm when you get a 20# fish on 100# test line, then hand it
to them again so they can take the fish off for you. Have at it, but
for me, no thanks. I actually ENJOY the sport of fishing, and don't
want anybody doing it for me. If the sole purpose is to get fish to
eat, I'll go to the grocery store.


Do everything but tie the Bimini Twist. They are not hooking and handing
off on SD boats. And you can release the fish. Last trip out of Marina
Del
Rey, only Calico Bass and perch biting. Kept none. Never keep Calicos.


Not true. I've been on many different party boats, and charters in many
different locations. One thing they ALL have in common, is liability.
THAT is why they do the catching for you, while you get to hold to rod
until a fish gets on.
I've asked several times, can I handle my own bait and fish? One, in
Tarpon Springs, FL, let me bait, but not gaff and take my grouper. The
Wacky Jacky, out of San Franscisco won't even let you bait, and the
captain stated is was purely because of California liability laws.


Maybe Jacky Douglas figured you could not get the bait right. Every boat I
have ever gone on allows you to bait your own hook. Norcal, or SoCal. Some
of the East Coast charters will put you on fish with overly heavy gear, but
you do not get to keep the fish, they keep and sell after you paid to go on
the boat.



Doug Kanter March 8th 06 07:32 PM

Tying braided line to regular mono
 
"CalifBill" wrote in message
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Some of the East Coast charters will put you on fish with overly heavy
gear, but you do not get to keep the fish, they keep and sell after you
paid to go on the boat.


That sounds like my idea of hell. :-(



CalifBill March 9th 06 05:00 AM

Tying braided line to regular mono
 

"Doug Kanter" wrote in message
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"CalifBill" wrote in message
k.net...

Some of the East Coast charters will put you on fish with overly heavy
gear, but you do not get to keep the fish, they keep and sell after you
paid to go on the boat.


That sounds like my idea of hell. :-(


Most Hawaii charters work the same scam.



basskisser March 9th 06 12:55 PM

Tying braided line to regular mono
 

CalifBill wrote:
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Calif Bill wrote:
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Calif Bill wrote:
"Doug Kanter" wrote in message
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"Calif Bill" wrote in message
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"Harry Krause" wrote in message
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NOYB wrote:
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"NOYB" wrote in message
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With these factors in mind, can braided fishing line (like
Berkley
Fireline) be tied directly to regular mono, or are the two
best
joined with a swivel?
Tie braid to mono with a uni to uni knot. I do it all the
time.
Swivels are too visible to fish.

Fishing test.

What's a bimini?

A knot used to double up a line. I hardly have use them.
They're a
pain in the arse to tie.




ESPECIALLY with limp braided line.

That is tied on braided line all the time on long range tuna
boats
out
of
San Diego.


Perhaps on those boats, "one has someone" to do the nasty work
while
one
holds one's cocktail.


That is true, you can have the crew tie it for you. Tip well.

Might as well go to the grocery store and buy the fish, just about
as
much fishing involved.


Why would you say that?
Because it's a true statement. Been there, done that. Nothing exciting
about going out to "fish", have someone tie you up, bait you up, get
you down to the right depth, THEN, they let you hold the rod. Reel in
with enthusiasm when you get a 20# fish on 100# test line, then hand it
to them again so they can take the fish off for you. Have at it, but
for me, no thanks. I actually ENJOY the sport of fishing, and don't
want anybody doing it for me. If the sole purpose is to get fish to
eat, I'll go to the grocery store.


Do everything but tie the Bimini Twist. They are not hooking and handing
off on SD boats. And you can release the fish. Last trip out of Marina
Del
Rey, only Calico Bass and perch biting. Kept none. Never keep Calicos.


Not true. I've been on many different party boats, and charters in many
different locations. One thing they ALL have in common, is liability.
THAT is why they do the catching for you, while you get to hold to rod
until a fish gets on.
I've asked several times, can I handle my own bait and fish? One, in
Tarpon Springs, FL, let me bait, but not gaff and take my grouper. The
Wacky Jacky, out of San Franscisco won't even let you bait, and the
captain stated is was purely because of California liability laws.


Maybe Jacky Douglas figured you could not get the bait right. Every boat I
have ever gone on allows you to bait your own hook. Norcal, or SoCal. Some
of the East Coast charters will put you on fish with overly heavy gear, but
you do not get to keep the fish, they keep and sell after you paid to go on
the boat.


Oh, so because you are wrong, you are now going to become an ass and
contend that it was only for MY benefit that they bait EVERYONES hook
on the Wacky Jacky? And are you contending that the Capt. DIDN'T state
that liability laws in CA won't allow them to allow you to bait and
release fish?? When you are wrong, turning into a condescending ass
certainly doesn't do anything for your credibility.


CalifBill March 10th 06 05:44 PM

Tying braided line to regular mono
 

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CalifBill wrote:
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CalifBill wrote:
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Calif Bill wrote:
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Calif Bill wrote:
"Doug Kanter" wrote in message
...

"Calif Bill" wrote in message
nk.net...

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
NOYB wrote:
"RCE" wrote in message
...
"NOYB" wrote in message
ink.net...

With these factors in mind, can braided fishing line
(like
Berkley
Fireline) be tied directly to regular mono, or are the
two
best
joined with a swivel?
Tie braid to mono with a uni to uni knot. I do it all
the
time.
Swivels are too visible to fish.

Fishing test.

What's a bimini?

A knot used to double up a line. I hardly have use them.
They're a
pain in the arse to tie.




ESPECIALLY with limp braided line.

That is tied on braided line all the time on long range tuna
boats
out
of
San Diego.


Perhaps on those boats, "one has someone" to do the nasty work
while
one
holds one's cocktail.


That is true, you can have the crew tie it for you. Tip well.

Might as well go to the grocery store and buy the fish, just
about
as
much fishing involved.


Why would you say that?
Because it's a true statement. Been there, done that. Nothing
exciting
about going out to "fish", have someone tie you up, bait you up, get
you down to the right depth, THEN, they let you hold the rod. Reel
in
with enthusiasm when you get a 20# fish on 100# test line, then hand
it
to them again so they can take the fish off for you. Have at it, but
for me, no thanks. I actually ENJOY the sport of fishing, and don't
want anybody doing it for me. If the sole purpose is to get fish to
eat, I'll go to the grocery store.


Do everything but tie the Bimini Twist. They are not hooking and
handing
off on SD boats. And you can release the fish. Last trip out of
Marina
Del
Rey, only Calico Bass and perch biting. Kept none. Never keep
Calicos.

Not true. I've been on many different party boats, and charters in many
different locations. One thing they ALL have in common, is liability.
THAT is why they do the catching for you, while you get to hold to rod
until a fish gets on.
I've asked several times, can I handle my own bait and fish? One, in
Tarpon Springs, FL, let me bait, but not gaff and take my grouper. The
Wacky Jacky, out of San Franscisco won't even let you bait, and the
captain stated is was purely because of California liability laws.


Maybe Jacky Douglas figured you could not get the bait right. Every boat
I
have ever gone on allows you to bait your own hook. Norcal, or SoCal.
Some
of the East Coast charters will put you on fish with overly heavy gear,
but
you do not get to keep the fish, they keep and sell after you paid to go
on
the boat.


Oh, so because you are wrong, you are now going to become an ass and
contend that it was only for MY benefit that they bait EVERYONES hook
on the Wacky Jacky? And are you contending that the Capt. DIDN'T state
that liability laws in CA won't allow them to allow you to bait and
release fish?? When you are wrong, turning into a condescending ass
certainly doesn't do anything for your credibility.


I have never been on a party boat in California that baits your hook for
you, or heard that statement. I have fished on both NorCal and SoCal boat.
You are the one who sounds like an ass! The SoCal live bait boats even give
a seminar on bait tank edicate.



basskisser March 10th 06 07:54 PM

Tying braided line to regular mono
 

CalifBill wrote:
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CalifBill wrote:
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Calif Bill wrote:
"basskisser" wrote in message
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Calif Bill wrote:
"Doug Kanter" wrote in message
...

"Calif Bill" wrote in message
nk.net...

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
NOYB wrote:
"RCE" wrote in message
...
"NOYB" wrote in message
ink.net...

With these factors in mind, can braided fishing line
(like
Berkley
Fireline) be tied directly to regular mono, or are the
two
best
joined with a swivel?
Tie braid to mono with a uni to uni knot. I do it all
the
time.
Swivels are too visible to fish.

Fishing test.

What's a bimini?

A knot used to double up a line. I hardly have use them.
They're a
pain in the arse to tie.




ESPECIALLY with limp braided line.

That is tied on braided line all the time on long range tuna
boats
out
of
San Diego.


Perhaps on those boats, "one has someone" to do the nasty work
while
one
holds one's cocktail.


That is true, you can have the crew tie it for you. Tip well.

Might as well go to the grocery store and buy the fish, just
about
as
much fishing involved.


Why would you say that?
Because it's a true statement. Been there, done that. Nothing
exciting
about going out to "fish", have someone tie you up, bait you up, get
you down to the right depth, THEN, they let you hold the rod. Reel
in
with enthusiasm when you get a 20# fish on 100# test line, then hand
it
to them again so they can take the fish off for you. Have at it, but
for me, no thanks. I actually ENJOY the sport of fishing, and don't
want anybody doing it for me. If the sole purpose is to get fish to
eat, I'll go to the grocery store.


Do everything but tie the Bimini Twist. They are not hooking and
handing
off on SD boats. And you can release the fish. Last trip out of
Marina
Del
Rey, only Calico Bass and perch biting. Kept none. Never keep
Calicos.

Not true. I've been on many different party boats, and charters in many
different locations. One thing they ALL have in common, is liability.
THAT is why they do the catching for you, while you get to hold to rod
until a fish gets on.
I've asked several times, can I handle my own bait and fish? One, in
Tarpon Springs, FL, let me bait, but not gaff and take my grouper. The
Wacky Jacky, out of San Franscisco won't even let you bait, and the
captain stated is was purely because of California liability laws.


Maybe Jacky Douglas figured you could not get the bait right. Every boat
I
have ever gone on allows you to bait your own hook. Norcal, or SoCal.
Some
of the East Coast charters will put you on fish with overly heavy gear,
but
you do not get to keep the fish, they keep and sell after you paid to go
on
the boat.


Oh, so because you are wrong, you are now going to become an ass and
contend that it was only for MY benefit that they bait EVERYONES hook
on the Wacky Jacky? And are you contending that the Capt. DIDN'T state
that liability laws in CA won't allow them to allow you to bait and
release fish?? When you are wrong, turning into a condescending ass
certainly doesn't do anything for your credibility.


I have never been on a party boat in California that baits your hook for
you, or heard that statement. I have fished on both NorCal and SoCal boat.
You are the one who sounds like an ass! The SoCal live bait boats even give
a seminar on bait tank edicate.


I've been on 4 party boats in CA. NONE of them let you bait your own
hooks. And NONE of them let you land and handle your own fish. When you
are around, go ask Jacky, she's the one who told me why that is! Now,
why am I an ass? Are you doubting what Jacky told me? Go ask her!


CalifBill March 11th 06 02:35 AM

Tying braided line to regular mono
 

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CalifBill wrote:
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Calif Bill wrote:
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Calif Bill wrote:
"Doug Kanter" wrote in message
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"Calif Bill" wrote in message
nk.net...

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
NOYB wrote:
"RCE" wrote in message
...
"NOYB" wrote in message
ink.net...

With these factors in mind, can braided fishing line
(like
Berkley
Fireline) be tied directly to regular mono, or are
the
two
best
joined with a swivel?
Tie braid to mono with a uni to uni knot. I do it all
the
time.
Swivels are too visible to fish.

Fishing test.

What's a bimini?

A knot used to double up a line. I hardly have use
them.
They're a
pain in the arse to tie.




ESPECIALLY with limp braided line.

That is tied on braided line all the time on long range
tuna
boats
out
of
San Diego.


Perhaps on those boats, "one has someone" to do the nasty
work
while
one
holds one's cocktail.


That is true, you can have the crew tie it for you. Tip
well.

Might as well go to the grocery store and buy the fish, just
about
as
much fishing involved.


Why would you say that?
Because it's a true statement. Been there, done that. Nothing
exciting
about going out to "fish", have someone tie you up, bait you up,
get
you down to the right depth, THEN, they let you hold the rod.
Reel
in
with enthusiasm when you get a 20# fish on 100# test line, then
hand
it
to them again so they can take the fish off for you. Have at it,
but
for me, no thanks. I actually ENJOY the sport of fishing, and
don't
want anybody doing it for me. If the sole purpose is to get fish
to
eat, I'll go to the grocery store.


Do everything but tie the Bimini Twist. They are not hooking and
handing
off on SD boats. And you can release the fish. Last trip out of
Marina
Del
Rey, only Calico Bass and perch biting. Kept none. Never keep
Calicos.

Not true. I've been on many different party boats, and charters in
many
different locations. One thing they ALL have in common, is
liability.
THAT is why they do the catching for you, while you get to hold to
rod
until a fish gets on.
I've asked several times, can I handle my own bait and fish? One, in
Tarpon Springs, FL, let me bait, but not gaff and take my grouper.
The
Wacky Jacky, out of San Franscisco won't even let you bait, and the
captain stated is was purely because of California liability laws.


Maybe Jacky Douglas figured you could not get the bait right. Every
boat
I
have ever gone on allows you to bait your own hook. Norcal, or SoCal.
Some
of the East Coast charters will put you on fish with overly heavy
gear,
but
you do not get to keep the fish, they keep and sell after you paid to
go
on
the boat.

Oh, so because you are wrong, you are now going to become an ass and
contend that it was only for MY benefit that they bait EVERYONES hook
on the Wacky Jacky? And are you contending that the Capt. DIDN'T state
that liability laws in CA won't allow them to allow you to bait and
release fish?? When you are wrong, turning into a condescending ass
certainly doesn't do anything for your credibility.


I have never been on a party boat in California that baits your hook for
you, or heard that statement. I have fished on both NorCal and SoCal
boat.
You are the one who sounds like an ass! The SoCal live bait boats even
give
a seminar on bait tank edicate.


Got a website for one of those?


Go to http://www.allcoastsportfishing.com/ and go to fishing reports and
dock totals.




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