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While both skippers are responsible for avoiding a collision, the
skipper of the little runabout could be charged with a felony simply
for being where he was. How many legal rights do you retain when you
are conducting an illegal activity?

Let's not forget that there is currently a 400-yard security zone
surrounding all commerical, cruise ship, and military (i.e. the Coast
Guard) vessels. No vessel shall approach to within 100 yards under any
circumstance, and if within 400 yards speed must be reduced to the
minimum amount required to maintain steerage.

This was a stupid accident from all sides, and both skippers should
have taken action to avoid the collision. Once the lawyers get involved
and the stench starts to cloud up over the issue of who was at "fault"
here, the point that the little runabout was operating illegally by
aproaching the CG vessel at speed would certainly become a
consideration.



G Think you're pushing the intent of the law here.
I can just see someones defense now...... Why did you continue to try and
run from the CG patrol boat?... Why, your Honor, I was just trying to obey
the law and maintain a 400yd security zone!
There's plenty of blame to go around in this incident.

otn

"Chuck Tribolet" wrote in message
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I have a 17' whaler too. Mounting a 2" West Marine remote speaker on the
console rail made a world
of difference underway.

I thought about doing that, but I didn't want to add clutter.

It mounts to the top of the console rail with two SS hose clamps. Completely
out of the way.


"NOYB" wrote in message k.net...

"Chuck Tribolet" wrote in message ...
I have a 17' whaler too. Mounting a 2" West Marine remote speaker on the console rail made a world
of difference underway.

I thought about doing that, but I didn't want to add clutter.

"NOYB" wrote in message
k.net...

"Chuck Tribolet" wrote in message
...
I have a 17' whaler too. Mounting a 2" West Marine remote speaker on the
console rail made a world
of difference underway.

I thought about doing that, but I didn't want to add clutter.




Here you go. Nice and small but plenty of speaker power:
http://store.tackletogo.com/pombvhfexsp.html

" JimH" jimh_osudad@yahooDOT comREMOVETHIS wrote in message
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"NOYB" wrote in message
k.net...

"Chuck Tribolet" wrote in message
...
I have a 17' whaler too. Mounting a 2" West Marine remote speaker on the
console rail made a world
of difference underway.

I thought about doing that, but I didn't want to add clutter.




Here you go. Nice and small but plenty of speaker power:
http://store.tackletogo.com/pombvhfexsp.html


BTW: It plugs right into to VHF radio and no wiring is needed. I think it
comes in black also. ;-)

"Chuck Tribolet" wrote in message
...
It mounts to the top of the console rail with two SS hose clamps.
Completely
out of the way.

I'd have to mount it inside the rail...or else my console cover wouldn't
fit.

wrote in message news:

I agree, if this is the law, it gets broken a hundred times a day,
whenever the CG goes out cruising down the channel. Are you really
saying all boats have to reduce to idle speed whever a coast guard
boat passes them in the channel or approaches from any direction in
open water?
I spent 6 years in the CG and I NEVER heard that we had any special
right to ignore COLREGs. In fact we were supposed to the the ones
presenting the perfect example, held to a higher standard than the
other riff raff on the water. We always assumed the other boaters were
clueless and were plesantly surprised when the few did actually
understand their responsibility.

The "Rules" are broken, bent, misused, ignored, complied with to the
letter/selectively on a daily basis by all people with all degrees of
experience, knowledge, size, type, intent, etc............
The good news is that "no harm, no foul". The bad news is that quite
frequently there is harm and in 99.9% of the cases, when this happens, BOTH
individuals responsible, share the responsibility.
In the case shown here, you can pick out majors errors on the part of both
parties.
My own feeling..... rather than place blame, look for the errors and add
them to your constantly growing inventory of things to avoid/ watch for.

otn

"NOYB" wrote in message
k.net...

" JimH" jimh_osudad@yahooDOT comREMOVETHIS wrote in message
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"NOYB" wrote in message
k.net...

"Chuck Tribolet" wrote in message
...
I have a 17' whaler too. Mounting a 2" West Marine remote speaker on
the console rail made a world
of difference underway.

I thought about doing that, but I didn't want to add clutter.




Here you go. Nice and small but plenty of speaker power:
http://store.tackletogo.com/pombvhfexsp.html

Are they amplified?


No. But they are certainly louder than the built in speaker on your VHF.

They also come in a 5 1/2" size.

wrote:
On Sun, 19 Feb 2006 17:20:32 GMT, otnmbrd
wrote:

the point that the little runabout was operating illegally by
aproaching the CG vessel at speed would certainly become a
consideration.



G Think you're pushing the intent of the law here.
I can just see someones defense now...... Why did you continue to try and
run from the CG patrol boat?... Why, your Honor, I was just trying to obey
the law and maintain a 400yd security zone!
There's plenty of blame to go around in this incident.


I agree, if this is the law, it gets broken a hundred times a day,
whenever the CG goes out cruising down the channel. Are you really
saying all boats have to reduce to idle speed whever a coast guard
boat passes them in the channel or approaches from any direction in
open water?


Actually, I was wrong. The zone extends for 500 yards- the 100 yard
*forbidden zone* and an *additional* 400 yards steerage way only.

One cite:

http://www.sailingusa.info/anti-terrorism.htm

wrote in message
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Actually, I was wrong. The zone extends for 500 yards- the 100 yard
*forbidden zone* and an *additional* 400 yards steerage way only.

One cite:

http://www.sailingusa.info/anti-terrorism.htm


You may be wrong in another area. The "cite" specifies Naval vessels not
USCG