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Skipper February 11th 06 11:00 AM

9mm is for Wimps
 
Calif Bill wrote:

"Dan Krueger" wrote:


Skipper wrote:


The 9mm is for pansies. Real men pack the .454 Casull magnum, the most
powerful handgun in the world.


http://tinyurl.com/8xcnc


How do YOU define "most powerful"? Do you know anything about handguns?
If you are considering just the size of the bullet, look here...


mid 1980's and I went to a gun show at Norco, Calif. You could shoot any of
the guns there. Was about a buck a shot for the 454 casull. Saw what it
did to a steel plate, cool. And also what it did to the shooter. No
thanks at shooting it.


Knew a real westerner couldn't be phooled. Ah, but Harry, he's an
eastern dude with known physical coordination challenges. Expect he'd
crack his skull 'bout down the middle of his forehead if he touched one
off...a well deserved mod, IMO.

--
Skipper

Reggie Smithers February 11th 06 12:02 PM

9mm is for Wimps
 
Shortwave Sportfishing wrote:
On Sat, 11 Feb 2006 07:56:30 GMT, "Calif Bill"
wrote:

"Dan Krueger" wrote in message
link.net...
Skipper wrote:
The 9mm is for pansies. Real men pack the .454 Casull magnum, the most
powerful handgun in the world.

http://tinyurl.com/8xcnc

--
Skipper
How do YOU define "most powerful"? Do you know anything about handguns?
If you are considering just the size of the bullet, look here...

http://www.israeli-weapons.com/weapo...ert_Eagle.html

or here...

http://www.tcarms.com/TC_HTML/TC_G2_Pistol_CalChart.htm

mid 1980's and I went to a gun show at Norco, Calif. You could shoot any of
the guns there. Was about a buck a shot for the 454 casull. Saw what it
did to a steel plate, cool. And also what it did to the shooter. No
thanks at shooting it.


It's one thing to have a gun like that - quite another to actually
shoot it with any kind of accuracy.


It is also one thing to clean up after shotting a burglar with a 9 mm
and quite another to clean up after shooting some with a 454 Casual. ;)


Can you imagine your wife (or the average male) trying to use this gun
in an emergency or using this gun for target practice.



--
Reggie
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That's my story and I am sticking to it.

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Skipper February 11th 06 12:26 PM

9mm is for Wimps
 
Reggie Smithers wrote:

Shortwave Sportfishing wrote:


It's one thing to have a gun like that - quite another to actually
shoot it with any kind of accuracy.


It is also one thing to clean up after shotting a burglar with a 9 mm
and quite another to clean up after shooting some with a 454 Casual. ;)


And should you ever have to use the .454 Casull for its intended
purpose, the last thing in the world you’ll be paying attention to is
recoil...or cleanup. Using full-power .454 ammunition, the Casull's
purpose is close-up protection from in-your-face predators with fangs
and claws. If your original intention was to land that salmon when momma
grizz suddenly takes exception to your presence, that Casull will come
in mighty handy.

--
Skipper

JohnH February 11th 06 12:54 PM

9mm is for Wimps
 
On Sat, 11 Feb 2006 07:02:30 -0500, Reggie Smithers
wrote:

Shortwave Sportfishing wrote:
On Sat, 11 Feb 2006 07:56:30 GMT, "Calif Bill"
wrote:

"Dan Krueger" wrote in message
link.net...
Skipper wrote:
The 9mm is for pansies. Real men pack the .454 Casull magnum, the most
powerful handgun in the world.

http://tinyurl.com/8xcnc

--
Skipper
How do YOU define "most powerful"? Do you know anything about handguns?
If you are considering just the size of the bullet, look here...

http://www.israeli-weapons.com/weapo...ert_Eagle.html

or here...

http://www.tcarms.com/TC_HTML/TC_G2_Pistol_CalChart.htm
mid 1980's and I went to a gun show at Norco, Calif. You could shoot any of
the guns there. Was about a buck a shot for the 454 casull. Saw what it
did to a steel plate, cool. And also what it did to the shooter. No
thanks at shooting it.


It's one thing to have a gun like that - quite another to actually
shoot it with any kind of accuracy.


It is also one thing to clean up after shotting a burglar with a 9 mm
and quite another to clean up after shooting some with a 454 Casual. ;)


Can you imagine your wife (or the average male) trying to use this gun
in an emergency or using this gun for target practice.


It appears ( http://www.magnumresearch.com/images/BFR.pdf ) that this
handgun will also fire the .410 shotgun shell, or something similar. That
may be the best of both worlds for someone who wanted a lot of home
protection. Hide a dozen or so of these around the house and you'd feel
quite secure - until the grandkids came over!
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'Til next time,

John H

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***** Have a Spectacular Day! *****
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Doug Kanter February 11th 06 12:55 PM

9mm is for Wimps
 

"Skipper" wrote in message
...
Reggie Smithers wrote:

Shortwave Sportfishing wrote:


It's one thing to have a gun like that - quite another to actually
shoot it with any kind of accuracy.


It is also one thing to clean up after shotting a burglar with a 9 mm
and quite another to clean up after shooting some with a 454 Casual. ;)


And should you ever have to use the .454 Casull for its intended
purpose, the last thing in the world you'll be paying attention to is
recoil...or cleanup. Using full-power .454 ammunition, the Casull's
purpose is close-up protection from in-your-face predators with fangs
and claws. If your original intention was to land that salmon when momma
grizz suddenly takes exception to your presence, that Casull will come
in mighty handy.

--
Skipper


Moron.

The "intended purpose" (according to Dick Casull) for that caliber was
hunting. In every test you see in the gun publications, the muzzle flash is
enormous. In a dark encounter with a bad guy, the flash would blind you, and
the second shot, which you MUST be ready for, would be next to impossible to
aim accurately. You could probably find ONE gun shop owner who'd recommend
such a gun for defense, but he'd probably be a descendant of the same
toothless idiot who spawned you.



Skipper February 11th 06 01:39 PM

9mm is for Wimps
 
Harry Krause wrote:

And should you ever have to use the .454 Casull for its intended
purpose, the last thing in the world you'll be paying attention to is
recoil...or cleanup. Using full-power .454 ammunition, the Casull's
purpose is close-up protection from in-your-face predators with fangs
and claws. If your original intention was to land that salmon when momma
grizz suddenly takes exception to your presence, that Casull will come
in mighty handy.


The Bass Pro shop up near Bal'mer has a couple of those huge caliber
handguns in its show case, and the last time I was in the store, I
handled them just to see what they would be like. Anyone who lives
outside of Alaska, or somewhere else "grizz" or polar bears frequent
is trying to compensate for a small dick. And I wonder how useful it
would be for self-protection from a charging bear. The damned animals
move fast, the big handguns are very heavy, and unless you've had a lot
of practice with one, you're not going to be able to fire it accurately.


Here's a little snubbie for the true sportsman:

http://www.shootingtimes.com/handgun_reviews/rgrRH/

http://www.magnumresearch.com/images/BFR.pdf

--
Skipper

JimH February 11th 06 01:55 PM

9mm is for Wimps
 

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
. ..
Skipper wrote:


Here's a little snubbie for the true sportsman:


Zip your fly; no one wants to see your genitalia.



LMAO.



Reggie Smithers February 11th 06 02:07 PM

9mm is for Wimps
 
Harry Krause wrote:
Skipper wrote:


Here's a little snubbie for the true sportsman:


Zip your fly; no one wants to see your genitalia.

I normally don't find Harry's barb's to be particularly witty or
humorous, but this one was as good as it gets. Reminds me of Chicago
kids have a "cut fight".

--
Reggie
************************************************** *************
That's my story and I am sticking to it.

************************************************** *************

Doug Kanter February 11th 06 03:49 PM

9mm is for Wimps
 
"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...

Anyone who lives outside of Alaska, or somewhere else "grizz" or polar
bears frequent
is trying to compensate for a small dick.


Quite a few deer hunters use large pistols, although .44 magnum works about
as well as .454, in the hands of a skilled shooter.



Doug Kanter February 11th 06 04:43 PM

9mm is for Wimps
 

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
Doug Kanter wrote:
"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...

Anyone who lives outside of Alaska, or somewhere else "grizz" or polar
bears frequent
is trying to compensate for a small dick.


Quite a few deer hunters use large pistols, although .44 magnum works
about as well as .454, in the hands of a skilled shooter.



Deer hunter...there's something inherently amusing about that phrase...a
false implication of mystery, danger, intrigue, skill...

Sorry...I see too many deer crossing the woods on my property to think it
requires any particular high-level skill to shoot and kill one with a gun.
I could use my upper level French door opening as a "stand," and shoot one
deer after another from 100 yards away.



You've apparently never met a good hunter who was also concerned with
choosing the right ones to take from a certain population in an area. Some
hunters are managers as much as marksmen.




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