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NOYB August 13th 03 06:12 PM

OT--Wal-Mart Posts $2.44B in 2Q Earnings
 
"I am pleased our associates achieved record quarterly sales and earnings,"
said company president and chief executive Lee Scott.



....except in Rochester, right Doug?



Hehehe.




Doug Kanter August 13th 03 08:20 PM

OT--Wal-Mart Posts $2.44B in 2Q Earnings
 
"NOYB" wrote in message
hlink.net...
"I am pleased our associates achieved record quarterly sales and

earnings,"
said company president and chief executive Lee Scott.



...except in Rochester, right Doug?

Hehehe.


The sales figure doesn't break apart categories. The only thing I've bought
repeatedly at WM, on an experimental basis, was groceries. With that in
mind, I can only tell you what I see:

1) I track grocery prices for my own shopping, using about 50 items I buy
repeatedly. Wegman's, a locally owned, high-quality behemoth of a chain, is
consistently cheaper on 3/4 of the items. For the other 25% of the items,
they're so close that it's not worth bothering with Wal Mart, with its
aisles littered with empty boxes, spotty unit pricing (a trick, by the way),
30 minute lines at the registers and annoying "don't give a damn" employees.
Further, I won't buy meat at WM because it's tainted with some sort of crap
to tenderize it. (Read the labels). And, the produce looks like the stuff I
leave for the squirrels in my garden, laying under the good stuff.

2) On any busy weekend, the Wegman's (4 blocks from WM) is packed with
customers. No matter: At any register, I'm out in 5-8 minutes.

3) Tops, another chain (owned by Ahold) is now being serviced by one of the
two largest wholesalers East of the Mississippi. This particular wholesaler
buys at better prices than WM most of the time. It's reflected in the Tops
stores, whose prices are suddenly giving WM and Wegman's a run for their
money.

Don't question #3. It's the business I'm in. I know how WM buys groceries.



Doug Kanter August 13th 03 10:12 PM

OT--Wal-Mart Posts $2.44B in 2Q Earnings
 
"JohnH" wrote in message
...


Yet WM is going crazy, as are many other retailers. Is it because only the
'rich' shop at WM? After all, they are the only ones to have received any
benefits from a tax cut. Right?


Perhaps many of us have given up trying to find clothing made in this
country. Once you've accepted the situation, you may as well buy it where
it's price reflects its true quality.



jps August 14th 03 12:27 AM

OT--Wal-Mart Posts $2.44B in 2Q Earnings
 
"NOYB" wrote in message
hlink.net...
"I am pleased our associates achieved record quarterly sales and

earnings,"
said company president and chief executive Lee Scott.



Uh oh. Wallmarts numbers ain't gonna be so good next quarter if the
mortgage refinancings that've put $ in people's pockets keep dropping
precipitously.

By Richard Leong
Reuters
Wednesday, August 13, 2003; 9:23 AM


NEW YORK - The number of applications Americans filed for mortgage loans
dropped last week to its lowest level in more than a year, even as mortgage
rates subsided from their recent spike, according to an industry survey.

The Mortgage Bankers Association of America said on Wednesday its seasonally
adjusted gauge of overall mortgage requests fell to 824.6 for the week ended
Aug. 8, down 16.1 percent from the previous week's 983.2.

The group's weekly barometer of mortgage demand fell to its lowest level
since 815.2 for the week of July 19, 2002.

Although overall mortgage demand remains high on a historical basis, the
previously red-hot level of refinancing, which has put money into consumers'
pockets, has cooled rapidly. Applications for refinancing made up 55.8
percent of all new requests filed last week, down from 72.1 percent a month
ago.

"We are on the downside, but it (refinancing) has not gone away completely,"
Mortgage Bankers Association's chief economist Douglas Duncan told Reuters.

Duncan estimated that the refinancing boom will be over when the weekly
share of refinancing applications falls to about 20 percent to 25 percent of
all new applications.

The recent rise in mortgage rates has hit refinancing -- down 67.5 percent
since its peak in May -- much harder than demand for loans to buy homes,
down around 10 percent.




jps August 14th 03 12:30 AM

OT--Wal-Mart Posts $2.44B in 2Q Earnings
 
"JohnH" wrote in message
...
On Wed, 13 Aug 2003 19:20:26 GMT, "Doug Kanter"

wrote:

Yet WM is going crazy, as are many other retailers. Is it because only the
'rich' shop at WM? After all, they are the only ones to have received any
benefits from a tax cut. Right?

Have I just gotten more stupid in my old age?


Chance are good. You may want to wait and find out if Target, K-mart and
other retailers are seeing the same spike. Wallymart may be enjoying more
business because they're selling more cheap goods manufactured in China.

Also, as you may know, mortgage refinancings have been driving a lot of
liquidity into the economy. That's now trailing off and I expect the free
flow of money will follow.



jps August 14th 03 12:34 AM

OT--Wal-Mart Posts $2.44B in 2Q Earnings
 
"JohnH" wrote in message
...
On Wed, 13 Aug 2003 21:12:46 GMT, "Doug Kanter"

wrote:

Doug, the question referred to the fact that people are spending more

money, not
where they are spending it.


How can you assert that when the news simply reflected Walmart and not the
general state of discount retailers?

How are Walmart's competition doing? If they're doing well, then you may
have a case. If not, money may simply be shifting from one retail outfit to
another, potentially based on price.

See, there's more of the conservative vs. liberal thinking. Our lot is
willing to be patient and make a judgement when all the data is in. You
folks want to make a case on one month, one day, one report.

Sorry bud, that dog won't hunt.



JohnH August 14th 03 12:46 AM

OT--Wal-Mart Posts $2.44B in 2Q Earnings
 
On Wed, 13 Aug 2003 16:34:59 -0700, "jps" wrote:

"JohnH" wrote in message
.. .
On Wed, 13 Aug 2003 21:12:46 GMT, "Doug Kanter"

wrote:

Doug, the question referred to the fact that people are spending more

money, not
where they are spending it.


How can you assert that when the news simply reflected Walmart and not the
general state of discount retailers?

How are Walmart's competition doing? If they're doing well, then you may
have a case. If not, money may simply be shifting from one retail outfit to
another, potentially based on price.

See, there's more of the conservative vs. liberal thinking. Our lot is
willing to be patient and make a judgement when all the data is in. You
folks want to make a case on one month, one day, one report.

Sorry bud, that dog won't hunt.

Gosh, jps, I'd have expected you to do this:

-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
Economy shows further signs of recovering

By Patrice Hill
THE WASHINGTON TIMES



More signs that the economy is gathering strength emerged yesterday as big
retailers like Wal-Mart reported their best sales in a year while productivity
boomed and unemployment claims dropped for a third straight week.
The increase in same-store sales last month, at 4.3 percent, was nearly
double the pace set in May and June in a survey of big department stores by the
Bank of Tokyo-Mitsubishi Ltd.
Wal-Mart, the biggest retailer, said better-than-expected sales were partly
the result of tax rebate checks. With consumer momentum building, the retailer
boosted its profit outlook for the rest of the year.
"It was a good month, and it may be a good omen for the second half," said
Michael P. Niemira, vice president of the Tokyo bank. Although warm weather and
heavy discounting by retailers accounted for some of the gains, "this could be
the start of a much better trend," he said.
Some analysts said consumers seem to be spending more on clothing, furniture
and other discretionary items because sharply higher interest rates since June
have dampened interest in buying cars and houses.
While consumers were shifting into a higher gear, the number of people
filing new claims for unemployment benefits dropped for a third straight week to
390,000 last week, a sign that the stagnant job market may be improving. The
four-week average of new jobless claims compiled by the Labor Department dropped
below 400,000 for the first time since February.
Businesses so far during the economic recovery have met growing demand with
the same or fewer workers because of strong productivity gains. That continued
during the second quarter, with a stunning 5.7 percent jump in productivity
reported by the Labor Department yesterday.
Analysts said the acceleration in consumer spending seen last month may
force businesses to start adding workers soon.
The "amazing" productivity gains eked out by businesses and workers in the
last few years have been "the silver lining in the jobless recovery," said Bill
Cheney, chief economist for John Hancock Financial Services. But "based on
today's jobless claims report, this recovery may not be jobless that much
longer." ....
(Continued)
---------------------------------------------------------------------------

But you didn't.

Most respectfully,


John
On the 'Poco Loco' out of Deale, MD

JohnH August 14th 03 12:54 AM

OT--Wal-Mart Posts $2.44B in 2Q Earnings
 
On 13 Aug 2003 23:26:02 GMT, ospam (F330 GT) wrote:

"NOYB" wrote in message
arthlink.net...
"I am pleased our associates achieved record quarterly sales and
earnings,"
said company president and chief executive Lee Scott.

Lots Snipped

How can this be? The economic news, according to most libs, is absolutely
atrocious. Millions upon millions are out of work and looking hard for jobs.
(Many more millions just draw their welfare checks.) The USA is sinking
rapidly.
And, its all George's fault.

Yet WM is going crazy, as are many other retailers. Is it because only the
'rich' shop at WM? After all, they are the only ones to have received any
benefits from a tax cut. Right?

Have I just gotten more stupid in my old age?

Respectfully,

John
On the 'Poco Loco' out of Deale, MD



Things are not always as they seem in the stock market. That's why Walmart
stock went down upon releasing it's earnings.

Looking farther into it:

"A turnaround in the Sam's Club division helped Wal-Mart overcome disappointing
results at its namesake stores and post a 20 percent jump in quarterly profit,
the company said Wednesday.
Sales at the company's namesake and core unit, however, missed sales
expectations amid a challenging retail environment and deeper discounting than
anticipated.

Scott noted too that sales in the last two weeks of the quarter were driven by
smaller tax withholdings and the child-credit rebate. He added that consumer
spending could not continue to hold up the economy without job growth."


The press release also noted that international sales were up 18.8% which
accounted for much of the increase in sales.

Barry

I wasn't referring to the price of Wal-Mart stock. I was referring to the same
events referred to above, to wit: "Scott noted too that sales in the last two
weeks of the quarter were driven by smaller tax withholdings and the
child-credit rebate. He added that consumer spending could not continue to hold
up the economy without job growth."

I had heard so much BSR to the effect that the tax breaks were going only to the
'rich'. I honestly don't think it's the 'rich' folks who are doing the spending
at Wal-Mart.


John
On the 'Poco Loco' out of Deale, MD

jps August 14th 03 01:12 AM

OT--Wal-Mart Posts $2.44B in 2Q Earnings
 
"JohnH" wrote in message
...

I had heard so much BSR to the effect that the tax breaks were going only

to the
'rich'. I honestly don't think it's the 'rich' folks who are doing the

spending
at Wal-Mart.


No, stupid Americans with Child tax credits in a spendy mood. They bought
several six packs and some new underwear and called it a day. BTW, most of
those sales were at Sam's Club, not Wallymart.



Jim August 14th 03 01:33 AM

OT--Wal-Mart Posts $2.44B in 2Q Earnings
 
Is the proverbial glass always half empty for you Gene?


"Gene Kearns" wrote in message
...
On Wed, 13 Aug 2003 16:55:16 -0400, JohnH
wrote:


Lots Snipped


Lots more snipped...

How can this be? The economic news, according to most libs, is absolutely
atrocious. Millions upon millions are out of work and looking hard for jobs.


Most of those people will keep on looking for those jobs, too, unless
they look for that job where your dollar ended up in that third world
country.


(Many more millions just draw their welfare checks.) The USA is sinking rapidly.
And, its all George's fault.


More likely the culprit is ditech.com and similar businesses. When
the slowdown in mortgage activity shows its effect, the truth of how
bad things *really* are will hit home.

Yet WM is going crazy, as are many other retailers. Right?


Wrong.... re-read the news on WM. Sam's Club saved their bacon.....


Have I just gotten more stupid in my old age?


No, just more cynical... and less willing to see the fallibility of
those you see as leading the charge toward more prosperity.


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Harry Krause August 14th 03 02:11 AM

OT--Wal-Mart Posts $2.44B in 2Q Earnings
 
Jim wrote:
Isn't it funny how the libs all of a sudden grow silent when positive economic news
like this is reported (during GWB's Presidency)?

What a coincidence!


"JohnH" wrote in message
...
On Wed, 13 Aug 2003 16:34:59 -0700, "jps" wrote:

"JohnH" wrote in message
.. .
On Wed, 13 Aug 2003 21:12:46 GMT, "Doug Kanter"
wrote:

Doug, the question referred to the fact that people are spending more
money, not
where they are spending it.

How can you assert that when the news simply reflected Walmart and not the
general state of discount retailers?

How are Walmart's competition doing? If they're doing well, then you may
have a case. If not, money may simply be shifting from one retail outfit to
another, potentially based on price.

See, there's more of the conservative vs. liberal thinking. Our lot is
willing to be patient and make a judgement when all the data is in. You
folks want to make a case on one month, one day, one report.

Sorry bud, that dog won't hunt.

Gosh, jps, I'd have expected you to do this:

-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
Economy shows further signs of recovering

By Patrice Hill
THE WASHINGTON TIMES



More signs that the economy is gathering strength emerged yesterday as big
retailers like Wal-Mart reported their best sales in a year while productivity
boomed and unemployment claims dropped for a third straight week.
The increase in same-store sales last month, at 4.3 percent, was nearly
double the pace set in May and June in a survey of big department stores by the
Bank of Tokyo-Mitsubishi Ltd.
Wal-Mart, the biggest retailer, said better-than-expected sales were partly
the result of tax rebate checks. With consumer momentum building, the retailer
boosted its profit outlook for the rest of the year.
"It was a good month, and it may be a good omen for the second half," said
Michael P. Niemira, vice president of the Tokyo bank. Although warm weather and
heavy discounting by retailers accounted for some of the gains, "this could be
the start of a much better trend," he said.
Some analysts said consumers seem to be spending more on clothing, furniture
and other discretionary items because sharply higher interest rates since June
have dampened interest in buying cars and houses.
While consumers were shifting into a higher gear, the number of people
filing new claims for unemployment benefits dropped for a third straight week to
390,000 last week, a sign that the stagnant job market may be improving. The
four-week average of new jobless claims compiled by the Labor Department dropped
below 400,000 for the first time since February.
Businesses so far during the economic recovery have met growing demand with
the same or fewer workers because of strong productivity gains. That continued
during the second quarter, with a stunning 5.7 percent jump in productivity
reported by the Labor Department yesterday.
Analysts said the acceleration in consumer spending seen last month may
force businesses to start adding workers soon.
The "amazing" productivity gains eked out by businesses and workers in the
last few years have been "the silver lining in the jobless recovery," said Bill
Cheney, chief economist for John Hancock Financial Services. But "based on
today's jobless claims report, this recovery may not be jobless that much
longer." ....
(Continued)
---------------------------------------------------------------------------

But you didn't.

Most respectfully,


John
On the 'Poco Loco' out of Deale, MD





The Washington Times?
The Moonie Paper?

Hehehe.

Trash is as trash reads/


Harry Krause August 14th 03 02:13 AM

OT--Wal-Mart Posts $2.44B in 2Q Earnings
 
F330 GT wrote:

"NOYB" wrote in message
arthlink.net...
"I am pleased our associates achieved record quarterly sales and
earnings,"
said company president and chief executive Lee Scott.

Lots Snipped

How can this be? The economic news, according to most libs, is absolutely
atrocious. Millions upon millions are out of work and looking hard for jobs.
(Many more millions just draw their welfare checks.) The USA is sinking
rapidly.
And, its all George's fault.

Yet WM is going crazy, as are many other retailers. Is it because only the
'rich' shop at WM? After all, they are the only ones to have received any
benefits from a tax cut. Right?

Have I just gotten more stupid in my old age?

Respectfully,

John
On the 'Poco Loco' out of Deale, MD







Things are not always as they seem in the stock market. That's why Walmart
stock went down upon releasing it's earnings.

Looking farther into it:

"A turnaround in the Sam's Club division helped Wal-Mart overcome disappointing
results at its namesake stores and post a 20 percent jump in quarterly profit,
the company said Wednesday.
Sales at the company's namesake and core unit, however, missed sales
expectations amid a challenging retail environment and deeper discounting than
anticipated.

Scott noted too that sales in the last two weeks of the quarter were driven by
smaller tax withholdings and the child-credit rebate. He added that consumer
spending could not continue to hold up the economy without job growth."


The press release also noted that international sales were up 18.8% which
accounted for much of the increase in sales.

Barry




Please, don't confuse our simple-minded righties with hard economic
facts, eh? They might burst a blood vessel.


Jim August 14th 03 02:38 AM

OT--Wal-Mart Posts $2.44B in 2Q Earnings
 

"Gene Kearns" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 14 Aug 2003 00:33:35 GMT, "Jim"
wrote:

Is the proverbial glass always half empty for you Gene?



Certainly not, but then, I'm not afraid to face reality, either.
Wearing rose colored glasses serves no useful purpose that I am aware
of.


So show me where I am viewing life with rose colored glasses Eugene. Please provide
some facts showing the economy is on a decline.

As you (should) know the current state of the economy, especially when considering the
forecast state of affairs, is about the worst the libs (come on Eugene, admit you are
one) could imagine....Improved retail sales, drastic gains in the stock market (DJ and
Nasdaq), increased productivity, lower unemployment, rock bottom interest rates...the
list goes on.

And the economy is only expected to improve in the coming months.

A libs nightmare when a Republican is President!

Right Gene?


Jim August 14th 03 02:51 AM

OT--Wal-Mart Posts $2.44B in 2Q Earnings
 

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
Jim wrote:

Isn't it funny how the libs all of a sudden grow silent when positive economic news
like this is reported (during GWB's Presidency)?

What a coincidence!


Perhaps a taste of reality is in order here, eh?

Wal-Mart's second-quarter net income increased to $2.44 billion, or 56
cents a share, compared with $2.02 billion, or 45 cents a share, a year
earlier. That result included four cents in earnings from discontinued
operations, with a gain from the sale of its McLane grocery-wholesaling
unit.

Net income from continuing operations rose 15% to $2.3 billion, or 52
cents a share, from $2.0 billion, or 45 cents a share, the company said.
The result was in line with estimates given last week when Wal-Mart
reported July sales.

Sales increased 11% to $62.6 billion, while same-store sales increased 3.2%.

"Consumer spending remained sluggish for most of the second quarter, and
Wal- Mart struggled to rid itself of bloated inventories, which had
grown faster than sales during the previous quarter. Heavy markdowns
pressured profits, and inventory at the close of the quarter was up 9%
from year-ago levels - slightly less than sales, but greater than the
company's longer-term goal for inventory to grow at less than half the
rate of sales. Comparable-store inventories increased by a
low-single-digit percentage, Wal-Mart said.

"Despite the markdowns, Wal-Mart managed to shore up profits, CEO Scott
said. The company reduced its rate of "shrinkage," or losses from stolen
and damaged goods, and continued to reap new benefits from increased
buying from cheaper manufacturers overseas.

"In addition, food margins improved even as domestic comparable-food
sales increased 7% to 9%. The company noted that sales of fresh food,
particularly at its Sam's Club unit, have grown swiftly. Fresh food
carries a higher-than- average margin at the company, noted Bill Dreher,
an analyst at Deutsche Bank Securities Inc. in New York."


Not that rosy a picture.










John
On the 'Poco Loco' out of Deale, MD





NOYB August 14th 03 02:57 AM

OT--Wal-Mart Posts $2.44B in 2Q Earnings
 

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
Jim wrote:
Isn't it funny how the libs all of a sudden grow silent when positive

economic news
like this is reported (during GWB's Presidency)?

What a coincidence!


"JohnH" wrote in message
...
On Wed, 13 Aug 2003 16:34:59 -0700, "jps" wrote:

"JohnH" wrote in message
.. .
On Wed, 13 Aug 2003 21:12:46 GMT, "Doug Kanter"


wrote:

Doug, the question referred to the fact that people are spending

more
money, not
where they are spending it.

How can you assert that when the news simply reflected Walmart and not

the
general state of discount retailers?

How are Walmart's competition doing? If they're doing well, then you

may
have a case. If not, money may simply be shifting from one retail

outfit to
another, potentially based on price.

See, there's more of the conservative vs. liberal thinking. Our lot

is
willing to be patient and make a judgement when all the data is in.

You
folks want to make a case on one month, one day, one report.

Sorry bud, that dog won't hunt.

Gosh, jps, I'd have expected you to do this:


-------------------------------------------------------------------------

----
Economy shows further signs of recovering

By Patrice Hill
THE WASHINGTON TIMES



More signs that the economy is gathering strength emerged yesterday

as big
retailers like Wal-Mart reported their best sales in a year while

productivity
boomed and unemployment claims dropped for a third straight week.
The increase in same-store sales last month, at 4.3 percent, was

nearly
double the pace set in May and June in a survey of big department

stores by the
Bank of Tokyo-Mitsubishi Ltd.
Wal-Mart, the biggest retailer, said better-than-expected sales

were partly
the result of tax rebate checks. With consumer momentum building, the

retailer
boosted its profit outlook for the rest of the year.
"It was a good month, and it may be a good omen for the second

half," said
Michael P. Niemira, vice president of the Tokyo bank. Although warm

weather and
heavy discounting by retailers accounted for some of the gains, "this

could be
the start of a much better trend," he said.
Some analysts said consumers seem to be spending more on clothing,

furniture
and other discretionary items because sharply higher interest rates

since June
have dampened interest in buying cars and houses.
While consumers were shifting into a higher gear, the number of

people
filing new claims for unemployment benefits dropped for a third

straight week to
390,000 last week, a sign that the stagnant job market may be

improving. The
four-week average of new jobless claims compiled by the Labor

Department dropped
below 400,000 for the first time since February.
Businesses so far during the economic recovery have met growing

demand with
the same or fewer workers because of strong productivity gains. That

continued
during the second quarter, with a stunning 5.7 percent jump in

productivity
reported by the Labor Department yesterday.
Analysts said the acceleration in consumer spending seen last month

may
force businesses to start adding workers soon.
The "amazing" productivity gains eked out by businesses and workers

in the
last few years have been "the silver lining in the jobless recovery,"

said Bill
Cheney, chief economist for John Hancock Financial Services. But "based

on
today's jobless claims report, this recovery may not be jobless that

much
longer." ....
(Continued)


-------------------------------------------------------------------------

--

But you didn't.

Most respectfully,


John
On the 'Poco Loco' out of Deale, MD





The Washington Times?
The Moonie Paper?

Hehehe.

Trash is as trash reads/



Perhaps you prefer these NY Times headlines:

Forecasts for U.S. Recovery Improved

Wal-Mart, TIffany report Earnings Surge

Retail Sales Rise 1.4% in July

Wal-Marts Profits Rise More Than 20%




Gould 0738 August 14th 03 05:04 AM

OT--Wal-Mart Posts $2.44B in 2Q Earnings
 
Isn't it funny how the libs all of a sudden grow silent when positive
economic news
like this is reported (during GWB's Presidency)?

What a coincidence!


The Debt To the Penny
Current Amount

08/12/2003 6,744,943,168,393.25


Current
Month

08/11/2003 6,741,975,510,157.17
08/08/2003 $6,741,662,308,948.83
08/07/2003 $6,738,632,001,233.74
08/06/2003 $6,735,127,561,462.54
08/05/2003 $6,736,678,634,901.89
08/04/2003 $6,732,382,078,949.43
08/01/2003 $6,727,587,083,455.60


Prior
Months

07/31/2003 $6,751,195,107,063.07
06/30/2003 $6,670,121,155,027.26
05/30/2003 $6,558,146,735,285.55
04/30/2003 $6,460,380,745,789.28
03/31/2003 $6,460,776,256,578.16
02/28/2003 $6,445,790,102,794.08
01/31/2003 $6,401,376,662,047.32
12/31/2002 $6,405,707,456,847.53
11/29/2002 $6,343,460,146,781.79
10/31/2002 $6,282,527,974,378.50


Prior Fiscal
Years

09/30/2002 $6,228,235,965,597.16
09/28/2001 $5,807,463,412,200.06
09/29/2000 $5,674,178,209,886.86
09/30/1999 $5,656,270,901,615.43
09/30/1998 $5,526,193,008,897.62
09/30/1997 $5,413,146,011,397.34
09/30/1996 $5,224,810,939,135.73
09/29/1995 $4,973,982,900,709.39
09/30/1994 $4,692,749,910,013.32
09/30/1993 $4,411,488,883,139.38
09/30/1992 $4,064,620,655,521.66
09/30/1991 $3,665,303,351,697.03
09/28/1990 $3,233,313,451,777.25
09/29/1989 $2,857,430,960,187.32
09/30/1988 $2,602,337,712,041.16
09/30/1987 $2,350,276,890,953.00

SOURCE: BUREAU OF THE PUBLIC DEBT

Looking for more historical information? Visit the Debt
Historical Information archives.


Updated August 13, 2003

Joe August 14th 03 05:25 AM

OT--Wal-Mart Posts $2.44B in 2Q Earnings
 

"jps" wrote in message
...
"JohnH" wrote in message
...

But you didn't.

Most respectfully,


Long ways to go in the second half.


Sorry, but I don't remember you whining when the market dropped 50% *before*
GW took office.



NOYB August 14th 03 06:20 AM

OT--Wal-Mart Posts $2.44B in 2Q Earnings
 
How'd you get my personal financial records? ;-)

"Gould 0738" wrote in message
...
Isn't it funny how the libs all of a sudden grow silent when positive
economic news
like this is reported (during GWB's Presidency)?

What a coincidence!


The Debt To the Penny
Current Amount

08/12/2003 6,744,943,168,393.25


Current
Month

08/11/2003 6,741,975,510,157.17
08/08/2003 $6,741,662,308,948.83
08/07/2003 $6,738,632,001,233.74
08/06/2003 $6,735,127,561,462.54
08/05/2003 $6,736,678,634,901.89
08/04/2003 $6,732,382,078,949.43
08/01/2003 $6,727,587,083,455.60


Prior
Months

07/31/2003 $6,751,195,107,063.07
06/30/2003 $6,670,121,155,027.26
05/30/2003 $6,558,146,735,285.55
04/30/2003 $6,460,380,745,789.28
03/31/2003 $6,460,776,256,578.16
02/28/2003 $6,445,790,102,794.08
01/31/2003 $6,401,376,662,047.32
12/31/2002 $6,405,707,456,847.53
11/29/2002 $6,343,460,146,781.79
10/31/2002 $6,282,527,974,378.50


Prior Fiscal
Years

09/30/2002 $6,228,235,965,597.16
09/28/2001 $5,807,463,412,200.06
09/29/2000 $5,674,178,209,886.86
09/30/1999 $5,656,270,901,615.43
09/30/1998 $5,526,193,008,897.62
09/30/1997 $5,413,146,011,397.34
09/30/1996 $5,224,810,939,135.73
09/29/1995 $4,973,982,900,709.39
09/30/1994 $4,692,749,910,013.32
09/30/1993 $4,411,488,883,139.38
09/30/1992 $4,064,620,655,521.66
09/30/1991 $3,665,303,351,697.03
09/28/1990 $3,233,313,451,777.25
09/29/1989 $2,857,430,960,187.32
09/30/1988 $2,602,337,712,041.16
09/30/1987 $2,350,276,890,953.00

SOURCE: BUREAU OF THE PUBLIC DEBT

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Updated August 13, 2003




Harry Krause August 14th 03 10:20 AM

OT--Wal-Mart Posts $2.44B in 2Q Earnings
 
Jim wrote:
And the source of your quotes and information is?,,,,



"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
Jim wrote:

Isn't it funny how the libs all of a sudden grow silent when positive economic news
like this is reported (during GWB's Presidency)?

What a coincidence!


Perhaps a taste of reality is in order here, eh?

Wal-Mart's second-quarter net income increased to $2.44 billion, or 56
cents a share, compared with $2.02 billion, or 45 cents a share, a year
earlier. That result included four cents in earnings from discontinued
operations, with a gain from the sale of its McLane grocery-wholesaling
unit.

Net income from continuing operations rose 15% to $2.3 billion, or 52
cents a share, from $2.0 billion, or 45 cents a share, the company said.
The result was in line with estimates given last week when Wal-Mart
reported July sales.

Sales increased 11% to $62.6 billion, while same-store sales increased 3.2%.

"Consumer spending remained sluggish for most of the second quarter, and
Wal- Mart struggled to rid itself of bloated inventories, which had
grown faster than sales during the previous quarter. Heavy markdowns
pressured profits, and inventory at the close of the quarter was up 9%
from year-ago levels - slightly less than sales, but greater than the
company's longer-term goal for inventory to grow at less than half the
rate of sales. Comparable-store inventories increased by a
low-single-digit percentage, Wal-Mart said.

"Despite the markdowns, Wal-Mart managed to shore up profits, CEO Scott
said. The company reduced its rate of "shrinkage," or losses from stolen
and damaged goods, and continued to reap new benefits from increased
buying from cheaper manufacturers overseas.

"In addition, food margins improved even as domestic comparable-food
sales increased 7% to 9%. The company noted that sales of fresh food,
particularly at its Sam's Club unit, have grown swiftly. Fresh food
carries a higher-than- average margin at the company, noted Bill Dreher,
an analyst at Deutsche Bank Securities Inc. in New York."


Not that rosy a picture.










John
On the 'Poco Loco' out of Deale, MD




The New York Stock Exchange news story based upon statements from
Wal-Mart management and those who analyze Wal-Mart stock.

--
* * *
email sent to will *never* get to me.


Jim August 14th 03 12:27 PM

OT--Wal-Mart Posts $2.44B in 2Q Earnings
 

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
Jim wrote:
And the source of your quotes and information is?,,,,



"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
Jim wrote:

Isn't it funny how the libs all of a sudden grow silent when positive economic

news
like this is reported (during GWB's Presidency)?

What a coincidence!


Perhaps a taste of reality is in order here, eh?

Wal-Mart's second-quarter net income increased to $2.44 billion, or 56
cents a share, compared with $2.02 billion, or 45 cents a share, a year
earlier. That result included four cents in earnings from discontinued
operations, with a gain from the sale of its McLane grocery-wholesaling
unit.

Net income from continuing operations rose 15% to $2.3 billion, or 52
cents a share, from $2.0 billion, or 45 cents a share, the company said.
The result was in line with estimates given last week when Wal-Mart
reported July sales.

Sales increased 11% to $62.6 billion, while same-store sales increased 3.2%.

"Consumer spending remained sluggish for most of the second quarter, and
Wal- Mart struggled to rid itself of bloated inventories, which had
grown faster than sales during the previous quarter. Heavy markdowns
pressured profits, and inventory at the close of the quarter was up 9%
from year-ago levels - slightly less than sales, but greater than the
company's longer-term goal for inventory to grow at less than half the
rate of sales. Comparable-store inventories increased by a
low-single-digit percentage, Wal-Mart said.

"Despite the markdowns, Wal-Mart managed to shore up profits, CEO Scott
said. The company reduced its rate of "shrinkage," or losses from stolen
and damaged goods, and continued to reap new benefits from increased
buying from cheaper manufacturers overseas.

"In addition, food margins improved even as domestic comparable-food
sales increased 7% to 9%. The company noted that sales of fresh food,
particularly at its Sam's Club unit, have grown swiftly. Fresh food
carries a higher-than- average margin at the company, noted Bill Dreher,
an analyst at Deutsche Bank Securities Inc. in New York."


Not that rosy a picture.










John
On the 'Poco Loco' out of Deale, MD




The New York Stock Exchange news story based upon statements from
Wal-Mart management and those who analyze Wal-Mart stock.

--
* * *
email sent to will *never* get to me.


Post a link. Otherwise you, as usual, are full of it.


Gould 0738 August 14th 03 03:37 PM

OT--Wal-Mart Posts $2.44B in 2Q Earnings
 
One retail theory is that when the economy is lousy, EVERYONE shops downward
one level. So, even if you prefer Lands' End t-shirts, you may settle for
Fruit of the Loom, or whatever WM sells.


It's the Puritan Work Ethic/ Depression mentality of our ancestors at work.
Most Americans feel compelled to seek out the lowest price. Buying from a more
socially responsible company that treats its employees fairly and isn't
contributing to the great suburban homogenization of America sounds like a
great idea......that somebody else should look into. We're all too busy saving
$15 on a color TV to give a
dang, personally.

jps August 14th 03 05:33 PM

OT--Wal-Mart Posts $2.44B in 2Q Earnings
 
"NOYB" wrote in message
m...

"jps" wrote in message
...
"JohnH" wrote in message
...

I had heard so much BSR to the effect that the tax breaks were going

only
to the
'rich'. I honestly don't think it's the 'rich' folks who are doing the

spending
at Wal-Mart.


No, stupid Americans with Child tax credits in a spendy mood. They

bought
several six packs and some new underwear and called it a day. BTW, most

of
those sales were at Sam's Club, not Wallymart.


A lot of businesses spend money at Sam's Club. They're taking advantage

of
the new $100,000 Section 179 tax deduction in the newly passed tax cut.


Yeah, that's just where I go when I want to spend 100,000 on new equipment,
Sam's Club.



NOYB August 14th 03 05:38 PM

OT--Wal-Mart Posts $2.44B in 2Q Earnings
 

"jps" wrote in message
...
"NOYB" wrote in message
m...

"jps" wrote in message
...
"JohnH" wrote in message
...

I had heard so much BSR to the effect that the tax breaks were going

only
to the
'rich'. I honestly don't think it's the 'rich' folks who are doing

the
spending
at Wal-Mart.

No, stupid Americans with Child tax credits in a spendy mood. They

bought
several six packs and some new underwear and called it a day. BTW,

most
of
those sales were at Sam's Club, not Wallymart.


A lot of businesses spend money at Sam's Club. They're taking advantage

of
the new $100,000 Section 179 tax deduction in the newly passed tax cut.


Yeah, that's just where I go when I want to spend 100,000 on new

equipment,
Sam's Club.


I never said the small businesses are spending the whole enchilada at Sam's
Club...but they do have excellent pricing on computer hardware, fax
machines, copy machines, phone systems, office furniture, appliances, etc.

Can't you expand your small mind for a second and see that Sam's small
business sales make up a sizable portion of their total sales.



JohnH August 14th 03 06:33 PM

OT--Wal-Mart Posts $2.44B in 2Q Earnings
 
On 14 Aug 2003 14:37:58 GMT, (Gould 0738) wrote:

One retail theory is that when the economy is lousy, EVERYONE shops downward
one level. So, even if you prefer Lands' End t-shirts, you may settle for
Fruit of the Loom, or whatever WM sells.


It's the Puritan Work Ethic/ Depression mentality of our ancestors at work.
Most Americans feel compelled to seek out the lowest price. Buying from a more
socially responsible company that treats its employees fairly and isn't
contributing to the great suburban homogenization of America sounds like a
great idea......that somebody else should look into. We're all too busy saving
$15 on a color TV to give a
dang, personally.


Are y'all trying to tell me that the 'rich' are taking all their tax savings and
shopping at Wal-Mart? Is this really what you're trying to get us dumb neo-cons
to believe?

John
On the 'Poco Loco' out of Deale, MD

NOYB August 14th 03 06:40 PM

OT--Wal-Mart Posts $2.44B in 2Q Earnings
 

"JohnH" wrote in message
...
On 14 Aug 2003 14:37:58 GMT, (Gould 0738) wrote:

One retail theory is that when the economy is lousy, EVERYONE shops

downward
one level. So, even if you prefer Lands' End t-shirts, you may settle

for
Fruit of the Loom, or whatever WM sells.


It's the Puritan Work Ethic/ Depression mentality of our ancestors at

work.
Most Americans feel compelled to seek out the lowest price. Buying from a

more
socially responsible company that treats its employees fairly and isn't
contributing to the great suburban homogenization of America sounds like

a
great idea......that somebody else should look into. We're all too busy

saving
$15 on a color TV to give a
dang, personally.


Are y'all trying to tell me that the 'rich' are taking all their tax

savings and
shopping at Wal-Mart? Is this really what you're trying to get us dumb

neo-cons
to believe?


Then who's spending their money at Tiffany & Co.?

From yesterday's NY Times (of course we know they *lie* about everything,
however):

"Tiffany & Co., helped by an improving economy in the United States and
abroad, reported that profits increased 26 percent."




Jim August 14th 03 06:45 PM

OT--Wal-Mart Posts $2.44B in 2Q Earnings
 

"JohnH" wrote in message
...
On 14 Aug 2003 14:37:58 GMT, (Gould 0738) wrote:

One retail theory is that when the economy is lousy, EVERYONE shops downward
one level. So, even if you prefer Lands' End t-shirts, you may settle for
Fruit of the Loom, or whatever WM sells.


It's the Puritan Work Ethic/ Depression mentality of our ancestors at work.
Most Americans feel compelled to seek out the lowest price. Buying from a more
socially responsible company that treats its employees fairly and isn't
contributing to the great suburban homogenization of America sounds like a
great idea......that somebody else should look into. We're all too busy saving
$15 on a color TV to give a
dang, personally.


Are y'all trying to tell me that the 'rich' are taking all their tax savings and
shopping at Wal-Mart? Is this really what you're trying to get us dumb neo-cons
to believe?

John
On the 'Poco Loco' out of Deale, MD


Old Chuck is just mad because the economy is showing signs of improvement, certainly
not what the libs want to see as the Presidential race is starting to heat up.

Being a proclaimed lib Old Chuck is also pro union and dreads good news coming from a
non union organization, especially one that has driven many union grocery stores under.

So Old Chuck will grasp at straws in trying to spin this positive story into a
negative.



JohnH August 14th 03 06:58 PM

OT--Wal-Mart Posts $2.44B in 2Q Earnings
 
On Thu, 14 Aug 2003 17:45:54 GMT, "Jim" wrote:


"JohnH" wrote in message
.. .
On 14 Aug 2003 14:37:58 GMT, (Gould 0738) wrote:

One retail theory is that when the economy is lousy, EVERYONE shops downward
one level. So, even if you prefer Lands' End t-shirts, you may settle for
Fruit of the Loom, or whatever WM sells.

It's the Puritan Work Ethic/ Depression mentality of our ancestors at work.
Most Americans feel compelled to seek out the lowest price. Buying from a more
socially responsible company that treats its employees fairly and isn't
contributing to the great suburban homogenization of America sounds like a
great idea......that somebody else should look into. We're all too busy saving
$15 on a color TV to give a
dang, personally.


Are y'all trying to tell me that the 'rich' are taking all their tax savings and
shopping at Wal-Mart? Is this really what you're trying to get us dumb neo-cons
to believe?

John
On the 'Poco Loco' out of Deale, MD


Old Chuck is just mad because the economy is showing signs of improvement, certainly
not what the libs want to see as the Presidential race is starting to heat up.

Being a proclaimed lib Old Chuck is also pro union and dreads good news coming from a
non union organization, especially one that has driven many union grocery stores under.

So Old Chuck will grasp at straws in trying to spin this positive story into a
negative.

Yeah. I sure wish Old Chuck, jps, Harry, etc would give me some advice on my
manifold and riser questions. Then I'd go spend some of my tax rebate money on
same.

John
On the 'Poco Loco' out of Deale, MD

Larry August 14th 03 06:59 PM

OT--Wal-Mart Posts $2.44B in 2Q Earnings
 
Might be good for the boat and motor companies, and their dealers, to
note that WalMart is successful because every consumer knows how EASY
it is to take back something that's defective or even if you just
don't like it, to WalMart.

I bought a set of Goodyear tires from WalMart a couple of years ago
for my Mercedes station wagon. 2 years later, I got a nail in the
left front tire. I had purchased WalMarts $9 extended road hazard
guarantee, so I took it to my local WalMart and pointed out the nail
to the service writer. "Hmm....that nail looks too close to the
sidewall for me. Joe, put this man on a new tire, will ya."

Joe could have simply plugged the hole and sent me on my way. Tire
dealers would have. Not WalMart. I got a new tire....

Guess where I'm going for tires for the other car and truck when they
need it.

A set of Goodyears from WalMart was $280, with the extra warranty good
forever until the tires are worn out. A similar set of Goodyears from
the Goodyear dealer was over $500 and, if I'd blown the tire in Kansas
for instance, I couldn't have gone into the local Walmart store to get
it fixed or replaced in any town......



On Wed, 13 Aug 2003 17:12:53 GMT, "NOYB" wrote:

"I am pleased our associates achieved record quarterly sales and earnings,"
said company president and chief executive Lee Scott.



...except in Rochester, right Doug?



Hehehe.




Larry

Extremely intelligent life must exist in the universe.
You can tell because they never tried to contact us.

NOYB August 14th 03 07:29 PM

OT--Wal-Mart Posts $2.44B in 2Q Earnings
 

"Larry" wrote in message
...
Might be good for the boat and motor companies, and their dealers, to
note that WalMart is successful because every consumer knows how EASY
it is to take back something that's defective or even if you just
don't like it, to WalMart.

I bought a set of Goodyear tires from WalMart a couple of years ago
for my Mercedes station wagon. 2 years later, I got a nail in the
left front tire. I had purchased WalMarts $9 extended road hazard
guarantee, so I took it to my local WalMart and pointed out the nail
to the service writer. "Hmm....that nail looks too close to the
sidewall for me. Joe, put this man on a new tire, will ya."

Joe could have simply plugged the hole and sent me on my way. Tire
dealers would have. Not WalMart. I got a new tire....

Guess where I'm going for tires for the other car and truck when they
need it.

A set of Goodyears from WalMart was $280, with the extra warranty good
forever until the tires are worn out. A similar set of Goodyears from
the Goodyear dealer was over $500 and, if I'd blown the tire in Kansas
for instance, I couldn't have gone into the local Walmart store to get
it fixed or replaced in any town......



Speaking of Kansas...where's Skipper? Maybe you'd find him as a greeter at
the Kansas Wal-Mart?



Gould 0738 August 14th 03 09:37 PM

OT--Wal-Mart Posts $2.44B in 2Q Earnings
 
Are y'all trying to tell me that the 'rich' are taking all their tax savings
and
shopping at Wal-Mart? Is this really what you're trying to get us dumb
neo-cons
to believe?


Where did you come up with that??

Pretty weird, John.

What I am trying to tell you, exactly, is in the body of what I wrote. To wit:

It's the Puritan Work Ethic/ Depression mentality of our ancestors at work.
Most Americans feel compelled to seek out the lowest price. Buying from a

more
socially responsible company that treats its employees fairly and isn't
contributing to the great suburban homogenization of America sounds like a
great idea......that somebody else should look into. We're all too busy

saving
$15 on a color TV to give a
dang, personally.


Are y'all trying to tell me that the 'rich' are taking all their tax savings
and
shopping at Wal-Mart? Is this really what you're trying to get us dumb
neo-cons
to believe?

John
On the 'Poco Loco' out of Deale, MD





JohnH August 14th 03 09:47 PM

OT--Wal-Mart Posts $2.44B in 2Q Earnings
 
On 14 Aug 2003 20:37:04 GMT, (Gould 0738) wrote:

Are y'all trying to tell me that the 'rich' are taking all their tax savings
and
shopping at Wal-Mart? Is this really what you're trying to get us dumb
neo-cons
to believe?


Where did you come up with that??

Pretty weird, John.

What I am trying to tell you, exactly, is in the body of what I wrote. To wit:

It's the Puritan Work Ethic/ Depression mentality of our ancestors at work.
Most Americans feel compelled to seek out the lowest price. Buying from a

more
socially responsible company that treats its employees fairly and isn't
contributing to the great suburban homogenization of America sounds like a
great idea......that somebody else should look into. We're all too busy

saving
$15 on a color TV to give a
dang, personally.


Are y'all trying to tell me that the 'rich' are taking all their tax savings
and
shopping at Wal-Mart? Is this really what you're trying to get us dumb
neo-cons
to believe?

John
On the 'Poco Loco' out of Deale, MD



You left out this part: "One retail theory is that when the economy is lousy,
EVERYONE shops downward one level. So, even if you prefer Lands' End t-shirts,
you may settle for Fruit of the Loom, or whatever WM sells."

Economists are saying that the tax cuts are having a positive effect on consumer
spending. Wal-Mart is enjoying some of those fruits. The Libs (including you, I
believe) have been criticizing the tax cut as being 'only for the rich'. Thus my
question. Is it only the rich who are doing the spending at Wal-Mart? I was in a
Wal-Mart just last week. It's still the worst, except for K-Mart, place to shop
for anything. It is, however, much closer and more convenient than the other
shopping areas. Also, the parking spaces are nice and big.

If I were one of the 'rich' who were the 'sole beneficiaries of the tax cut',
there is no way I would set foot in a Wal-Mart for anything.

Most respectfully,

John
On the 'Poco Loco' out of Deale, MD

Gould 0738 August 14th 03 10:10 PM

OT--Wal-Mart Posts $2.44B in 2Q Earnings
 
You left out this part: "One retail theory is that when the economy is lousy,
EVERYONE shops downward one level. So, even if you prefer Lands' End
t-shirts,
you may settle for Fruit of the Loom, or whatever WM sells."

Economists are saying that the tax cuts are having a positive effect on
consumer
spending. Wal-Mart is enjoying some of those fruits. The Libs (including you,
I
believe) have been criticizing the tax cut as being 'only for the rich'. Thus
my
question. Is it only the rich who are doing the spending at Wal-Mart? I was
in a
Wal-Mart just last week. It's still the worst, except for K-Mart, place to
shop
for anything. It is, however, much closer and more convenient than the other
shopping areas. Also, the parking spaces are nice and big.

If I were one of the 'rich' who were the 'sole beneficiaries of the tax cut',
there is no way I would set foot in a Wal-Mart for anything.

Most respectfully,

John
On the 'Poco Loco' out of Deale, MD


The tax cuts aren't "only" for the rich, just highly biased toward the rich.
Bush's people are smart enough to know that an average guy needs a pittance in
savings too, or else the populace would be less willing to turn a blind eye to
a national debt that was climbing, just this week, at the rate of over
$1,000,000,000.00 a day.

Take that $1 billion a day, and divide it up by 250mm folks. About $4 a day
apiece, or $480 a month for a family of four. Hope your tax cut is at least $6k
a year, John- because if it isn't and if you've got a family of four you're
getting hosed the difference.
Oh, and by the way, the guy whose tax cut is $6mm a year? His per capita share
of the out of control national debtbacle is the same as yours.

But, if the government trickles a few bucks down on John Q Public, John Q will
be too busy buying Chinese Junks at WalMart to pay any real attention.

Bread and circuses.

JohnH August 14th 03 11:04 PM

OT--Wal-Mart Posts $2.44B in 2Q Earnings
 
On 14 Aug 2003 20:52:58 GMT, (Gould 0738) wrote:

Much snipped.


You need an emergency transfusion of CLUE. Driving the competition under is
"good news" as far as you're concerned?

Uh, just what do you guys think the prices at Wal-Mart will be when they're the
only game around? I already know, "Whatever the market will bear! It's a free
market!"
Yeah right.

The Walton Foundation opens up in a community and intially dumps the price so
badly on everything in sight that the local competition dries up. I know of
specific cases where stuff has been sold *retail* at WalMart for less than
competitors are asked to pay wholesale. WalMart can afford to lose a few
million dollars taking over a local market, but the local businesses can't
afford to lose the same few million trying to hold on to it.

Once the local appliance store, hardware store, shoe store, clothing store,
tire store,
and now grocery stores have thrown in the towels, *up* go the WalMart prices.

I just read where WalMart is now going to be opening the Bank of Walmart in
most communities.

Pretty soon, they'll just be everybody's company store. The few employers left
outside of WalMart won't even bother to write paychecks.....they will just
issue script good only at WalMart.

And you think this is a good trend.


So Old Chuck will grasp at straws in trying to spin this positive story into
a
negative.


No, Old Chuck will see yourt story for waht it is--- an isolated and
destructive example not indicative of the general trend.

Chuck, you seem to think that we, or someone, are singing the praises of
Wal-Mart. Whether WM is good or bad is not pertinent to the discussion. WM was
not the only retailer with good news. The point made was that none of you guys
bothered to comment on what the newspapers, including the Washington Post, were
reporting.

jps, normally the quickest off the mark to copy and paste anything, posted
nothing about the good news. Hey, at least the bad news has slowed somewhat!
That in itself should be good news.

You are, in effect, proving my point. Liberals, in general, don't want any good
news about anything. Good news of any sort must be turned around so that it can
become a power play. In fact, anything good should be prevented, if possible.

Again, respectfully,

John
On the 'Poco Loco' out of Deale, MD

JohnH August 14th 03 11:09 PM

OT--Wal-Mart Posts $2.44B in 2Q Earnings
 
On 14 Aug 2003 21:10:27 GMT, (Gould 0738) wrote:

You left out this part: "One retail theory is that when the economy is lousy,
EVERYONE shops downward one level. So, even if you prefer Lands' End
t-shirts,
you may settle for Fruit of the Loom, or whatever WM sells."

Economists are saying that the tax cuts are having a positive effect on
consumer
spending. Wal-Mart is enjoying some of those fruits. The Libs (including you,
I
believe) have been criticizing the tax cut as being 'only for the rich'. Thus
my
question. Is it only the rich who are doing the spending at Wal-Mart? I was
in a
Wal-Mart just last week. It's still the worst, except for K-Mart, place to
shop
for anything. It is, however, much closer and more convenient than the other
shopping areas. Also, the parking spaces are nice and big.

If I were one of the 'rich' who were the 'sole beneficiaries of the tax cut',
there is no way I would set foot in a Wal-Mart for anything.

Most respectfully,

John
On the 'Poco Loco' out of Deale, MD


The tax cuts aren't "only" for the rich, just highly biased toward the rich.
Bush's people are smart enough to know that an average guy needs a pittance in
savings too, or else the populace would be less willing to turn a blind eye to
a national debt that was climbing, just this week, at the rate of over
$1,000,000,000.00 a day.

Take that $1 billion a day, and divide it up by 250mm folks. About $4 a day
apiece, or $480 a month for a family of four. Hope your tax cut is at least $6k
a year, John- because if it isn't and if you've got a family of four you're
getting hosed the difference.
Oh, and by the way, the guy whose tax cut is $6mm a year? His per capita share
of the out of control national debtbacle is the same as yours.

But, if the government trickles a few bucks down on John Q Public, John Q will
be too busy buying Chinese Junks at WalMart to pay any real attention.

Bread and circuses.

I assume the $6mm a year guy is still paying about $50mm a year? Could you
calculate that for me, as I'm not a tax expert. His per capita share of the
debt may be the same as mine, but he's sure as hell doing a lot more paying on
the debt than I am. I know that is obvious to you guys, but you never seem to
mention it.

John
On the 'Poco Loco' out of Deale, MD

JohnH August 15th 03 12:31 AM

OT--Wal-Mart Posts $2.44B in 2Q Earnings
 
On Thu, 14 Aug 2003 19:09:03 -0400, Gene Kearns wrote:

Almost all snipped

However, what sort of ass would gleefully watch American families
and interests be hurt just for political expediency?

But the question above caught my eye. The answer is: Democrat/liberal asses who
want to regain/develop power. The same ones who decry the national debt but
want more and more costly programs.The same ones who will now say that we need a
platoon of guards, preferably civilian, at each power line pole in America. The
same ones who say we need more security forces at our ports. The same ones who
want to give every police/fire department in America all the money they can
spend. The same ones who say, no matter what is done, that it's not enough.

Respectfully,

John
On the 'Poco Loco' out of Deale, MD

Harry Krause August 15th 03 12:35 AM

OT--Wal-Mart Posts $2.44B in 2Q Earnings
 
Jim wrote:
"Harry Krause" wrote in message
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Jim wrote:
And the source of your quotes and information is?,,,,



"Harry Krause" wrote in message
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Jim wrote:

Isn't it funny how the libs all of a sudden grow silent when positive economic

news
like this is reported (during GWB's Presidency)?

What a coincidence!


Perhaps a taste of reality is in order here, eh?

Wal-Mart's second-quarter net income increased to $2.44 billion, or 56
cents a share, compared with $2.02 billion, or 45 cents a share, a year
earlier. That result included four cents in earnings from discontinued
operations, with a gain from the sale of its McLane grocery-wholesaling
unit.

Net income from continuing operations rose 15% to $2.3 billion, or 52
cents a share, from $2.0 billion, or 45 cents a share, the company said.
The result was in line with estimates given last week when Wal-Mart
reported July sales.

Sales increased 11% to $62.6 billion, while same-store sales increased 3.2%.

"Consumer spending remained sluggish for most of the second quarter, and
Wal- Mart struggled to rid itself of bloated inventories, which had
grown faster than sales during the previous quarter. Heavy markdowns
pressured profits, and inventory at the close of the quarter was up 9%
from year-ago levels - slightly less than sales, but greater than the
company's longer-term goal for inventory to grow at less than half the
rate of sales. Comparable-store inventories increased by a
low-single-digit percentage, Wal-Mart said.

"Despite the markdowns, Wal-Mart managed to shore up profits, CEO Scott
said. The company reduced its rate of "shrinkage," or losses from stolen
and damaged goods, and continued to reap new benefits from increased
buying from cheaper manufacturers overseas.

"In addition, food margins improved even as domestic comparable-food
sales increased 7% to 9%. The company noted that sales of fresh food,
particularly at its Sam's Club unit, have grown swiftly. Fresh food
carries a higher-than- average margin at the company, noted Bill Dreher,
an analyst at Deutsche Bank Securities Inc. in New York."


Not that rosy a picture.










John
On the 'Poco Loco' out of Deale, MD




The New York Stock Exchange news story based upon statements from
Wal-Mart management and those who analyze Wal-Mart stock.

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Post a link. Otherwise you, as usual, are full of it.


Are you too lazy or too stupid to find the NYSE home page and check out
Wal-Mart?

Typical brain-dead Konservatrash..."if it doesn't have a URL, it doesn't
exist."



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Harry Krause August 15th 03 12:39 AM

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JohnH wrote:

On Thu, 14 Aug 2003 19:09:03 -0400, Gene Kearns wrote:

Almost all snipped

However, what sort of ass would gleefully watch American families
and interests be hurt just for political expediency?

But the question above caught my eye. The answer is: Democrat/liberal asses who
want to regain/develop power. The same ones who decry the national debt but
want more and more costly programs.


It is the ejaculate in the White House, a Konservative Republican, who
is rat****ting (yes, I know) up the national debt.

The
same ones who say we need more security forces at our ports.


Nah..why would we want to guard our ports?


The same ones who
want to give every police/fire department in America all the money they can
spend.



A bit of sour grapes there, John?


The same ones who say, no matter what is done, that it's not enough.

Isn't that the motto of the ejaculate in the White House?



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JohnH August 15th 03 12:48 AM

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On Thu, 14 Aug 2003 19:39:50 -0400, Harry Krause
wrote:

JohnH wrote:

On Thu, 14 Aug 2003 19:09:03 -0400, Gene Kearns wrote:

Almost all snipped

However, what sort of ass would gleefully watch American families
and interests be hurt just for political expediency?

But the question above caught my eye. The answer is: Democrat/liberal asses who
want to regain/develop power. The same ones who decry the national debt but
want more and more costly programs.


It is the ejaculate in the White House, a Konservative Republican, who
is rat****ting (yes, I know) up the national debt.

The
same ones who say we need more security forces at our ports.


Nah..why would we want to guard our ports?


The same ones who
want to give every police/fire department in America all the money they can
spend.



A bit of sour grapes there, John?


The same ones who say, no matter what is done, that it's not enough.

Isn't that the motto of the ejaculate in the White House?

Harry, your comments are too off the wall for comment. Notice, however, that I
didn't call you any names!

With utmost (snicker) respect,


John
On the 'Poco Loco' out of Deale, MD

jps August 15th 03 02:00 AM

OT--Wal-Mart Posts $2.44B in 2Q Earnings
 

"Gene Kearns" wrote in message
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On Thu, 14 Aug 2003 01:38:20 GMT, "Jim"
wrote:


"Gene Kearns" wrote in message
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So show me where I am viewing life with rose colored glasses Eugene.

Please provide
some facts showing the economy is on a decline.


First of all, the "facts" that you offer are figures released by
coneheads employed by the current administration to put a "spin" on
the current situation. Every administration does this... they have a
product to sell to the American public... themselves..... and they
hire the most competent spinmeister's they can hire. Offering some
Washington bureaucrat's figures as "fact" is, at the very least,
extremely naive.

The best "facts" I can offer is that every day I open the newspapers I
see more plants going out of business and laying off workers. Just
off of vacation, the first newspaper I see proclaims that a local
company has closed sixteen plants and layed off thousands of
workers/taxpayers. Since you are so local and have you eye out for
statistics...... check this out....
http://www.news14charlotte.com/conte...es/?ArID=38346
...how many of those people found jobs? Remember there were only
enough jobs to go around for 1 out of every 4 people..... that means
3 out of four families will have to go hungry or go on some form of
assistance. And notice..... this is in your back yard. Wonder what
those people think of the Gov. statistics?

I just helped put sixty highly qualified mechanics on the street....
prepared for jobs that don't exist in the current economy. About 85%
of the class is keeping their "student" job, tending bar, working at
the carwash, tossing packages, etc., because a bird in the hand is
worth more than a highly paid technical job somewhere out there in the
bushes....

Most states (NC certainly not the exception) have taken such a hard
hit with out of work people, falling inventories, and business unable
to sell their goods and services (WM is not the only business, you
know) that they are having to cut back on necessary services. Their
response is to raise taxes.... see that in Charlotte, yet? Wonder
why?

Can you find the vicious circle in this picture?

As you (should) know the current state of the economy, especially when

considering the
forecast state of affairs,


The point you so conveniently ignore is that these are "forecast state
of affairs" NOT reality. Show me performance.... don't make me
promises. If this isn't "form over substance," I don't know what is.

is about the worst the libs (come on Eugene, admit you are
one)


If it soothes you, feel free to classify me in any way that lends
comfort in you binary world. If pigeon holing me as a "lib" (whatever
that means to you) helps you sort out and order your world... feel
free... Most people, even color blind ones, see in shades of gray,
but if that doesn't work for you..... feel free to talk in terms of
white hats and black hats......

Problem is, people like Hopalong Cassidy, who wore a black hat......
I forget, "was he a bad guy, too?"

could imagine....Improved retail sales, drastic gains in the stock market

(DJ and
Nasdaq), increased productivity, lower unemployment, rock bottom interest

rates...the
list goes on.


I strongly suggest a little book I had to read many, many years ago in
college. It was entitled, "How to Lie With Statistics." It is a
quick read and might make you a little more critical and savvy about
taking all of those "rates" at face value. I find a little bit of
irony in your offer of "rock bottom interest rates" as a sign of a
strong (or recovering) economy....

And the economy is only expected to improve in the coming months.


I Certainly hope it does, but I don't see any quick fix for this dire
situation.

A libs nightmare when a Republican is President!

Right Gene?


No, I don't think so. I would hope that people of any political
persuasion would see the current situation as truly BAD for America
and Americans. True, a stunning turn around would bode well for the
current administration and the Republican party, in general. However,
what sort of ass would gleefully watch American families and interests
be hurt just for political expediency?

On the other hand, would you be pleased to see this sort of economic
turmoil during a "liberal" or Democratic administration just to prove
that the "conservatives" and Republicans were right? Would you feel
the moral imperative to teach these people an ideological lesson?
Would you feel justified? Satisfied?

While we are on the question of questions...... you have posted next
to nothing relating to boating. Where do you boat? What kind of boat
do you have? Have any recent boating experiences to share??



Excellent post Gene, thanks for taking the time to explain things from an
objective perspective (homage to Jesse Jackson).



NOYB August 15th 03 02:11 AM

OT--Wal-Mart Posts $2.44B in 2Q Earnings
 

"jps" wrote in message
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"NOYB" wrote in message
ink.net...

That's why the new section 179 limit will have such an immediate impact

on
the economy. It's brings future purchases into the here and now.


You said small business at Wallymart. Small business doesn't normally

spend
more than $25K a year.

Medium size $50mm/yr. and up sized businesses are in a much better

position
to take advantage of the increased section 179 but that ain't gonna be

spent
at Wallymart.


You're nuts. My business's capital expenditures have been averaging
approximately 4% of gross sales the last 4 years.


Any business doing 3/4 of a million and up could protentially benefit from
the new increased limit.





My bet is Sam's Club sold washers, dryers, refrigerators, air

conditioners,
and little do dads that mom and pop were getting with their child tax
credits. When the money is gone, so will the spike in business.






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