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On Sun, 05 Feb 2006 20:06:22 -0800, jps wrote:
Small market teams are bad for leagues. Disregarding the game, I was curious. I don't think Seattle qualifies as a "small market" anymore. In metro-area population, it ranks 13 nationally. http://www.demographia.com/db-usmet2000.htm As a city, 23. http://www.demographia.com/db-uscity98.htm |
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On Mon, 06 Feb 2006 08:04:20 -0500, thunder
wrote: Small market teams are bad for leagues. Disregarding the game, I was curious. I don't think Seattle qualifies as a "small market" anymore. In metro-area population, it ranks 13 nationally. I don't care enough to verify my opinion with facts, but I think the difference is in small market and small market for the NFL. I'd think as far as NLF paraphernalia goes, Steelers crap outsells Seahawks crap 10 to 1. The average Neanderthal, Joe Six-pack sports fan relates much more to a gritty, dirty play team like the Steelers. What self respecting redneck would support a bunch of sweater wearing, latté sipping, book reading, free thinkers like them Seattle folks, whoever their namby pamby team is. Hey Bubba, you really gonna wear that Seahogs jersey to the NASCAR club? snicker. I think those better known folks in this group who took sides in the contest pretty well prove my point. bb |
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bb wrote: On Mon, 06 Feb 2006 08:04:20 -0500, thunder wrote: Small market teams are bad for leagues. Disregarding the game, I was curious. I don't think Seattle qualifies as a "small market" anymore. In metro-area population, it ranks 13 nationally. I don't care enough to verify my opinion with facts, but I think the difference is in small market and small market for the NFL. I'd think as far as NLF paraphernalia goes, Steelers crap outsells Seahawks crap 10 to 1. The average Neanderthal, Joe Six-pack sports fan relates much more to a gritty, dirty play team like the Steelers. What self respecting redneck would support a bunch of sweater wearing, latté sipping, book reading, free thinkers like them Seattle folks, whoever their namby pamby team is. Hey Bubba, you really gonna wear that Seahogs jersey to the NASCAR club? snicker. I think those better known folks in this group who took sides in the contest pretty well prove my point. bb The Super Bowl has to sustain football fever for about 6 months until the preseason games get underway. Suppose you were writing the script for the event. You have two choices: 1) One of the richest billionaires in the world accepts the Vince Lombardi trophy on behalf of a city that 90% of the folks in the US have never visited and many may only be half certain where it is located. The physical location of the nearest competing team is about 700 miles away in the SF Bay area and there is no pro football at all in three surrounding states and the adjoining Canadian province. There are no blood feud rivalries with any teams that might get some help selling out their stadiums when Seattle comes to town (You may as well just send the trophy up on the Space Shuttle and bring it back in a year for all the strategic good it would do the NFL.) 2) A little old guy whose family has owned the Steelers since the invention of the pig, let alone the practice of making footballs from pigskin, accepts the trophy and in the twilight years of his service to the sport lays claim to being only the third team to win five Super Bowl championships. Nobody likes billionaires, everybody likes a little ol' grandpa figure. Pittsburgh is within a few hours drive of any number of other football cities, and while Seattle has so many civic assets and advantages that an NFL team is just frosting on the cake, what the heck would you do in Pittsburgh on a winter Sunday except root for the local football team? A Steeler's win made much better television. After watching the refs subtract a touchdown from Seattle and add one for the Steelers yesterday, (and would have declared a phony "fumble" if Holmgren didn't demand a relook at compelling video evidence to the contrary) it occured to me why so many guys in the WWF are used up players from the NFL. The Steelers definitely won- but next year, I do think it would be helpful if the referees were prohibited from betting on the game. :-) |
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snip.. The physical location of the nearest competing team is about 700 miles away in the SF Bay area and there is no pro football at all in three surrounding states and the adjoining Canadian province. snip ** I'm not a fan of pro football...but fans of the BC Lions may argue with your above statement. http://www.bclions.com/ ** Pittsburgh is within a few hours drive of any number of other football cities, and while Seattle has so many civic assets and advantages that an NFL team is just frosting on the cake, what the heck would you do in Pittsburgh on a winter Sunday except root for the local football team? snip... ** This time of year, Pittsburgh fans should be more interested in hockey and the new whiz kid from my hometown. Football in February isn't natural... http://www.pittsburghpenguins.com/ |
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Don White wrote: wrote: snip.. The physical location of the nearest competing team is about 700 miles away in the SF Bay area and there is no pro football at all in three surrounding states and the adjoining Canadian province. snip ** I'm not a fan of pro football...but fans of the BC Lions may argue with your above statement. http://www.bclions.com/ ** Interesting web site. Just took a look, and it appears that several of the players are not certain whether they will "turn out" for hockey or football next year. Like a lot of sports, (including minor league baseball), the games at the lower levels are often more enjoyable than the "big league" productions and fewer of the players need a wheelbarrow to haul around either their egos or their rolls of cash. I'm sure the Lions games are very enertaining. I guess I should have said "NFL" football, rather than "pro" football. |
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Chuck! I think you are on to something. There must have been a conspiracy.
The Seattle Seabirds must have gone to the mat to help the Steelers win. I wonder how much the payoff was. Jim wrote in message oups.com... bb wrote: On Mon, 06 Feb 2006 08:04:20 -0500, thunder wrote: Small market teams are bad for leagues. Disregarding the game, I was curious. I don't think Seattle qualifies as a "small market" anymore. In metro-area population, it ranks 13 nationally. I don't care enough to verify my opinion with facts, but I think the difference is in small market and small market for the NFL. I'd think as far as NLF paraphernalia goes, Steelers crap outsells Seahawks crap 10 to 1. The average Neanderthal, Joe Six-pack sports fan relates much more to a gritty, dirty play team like the Steelers. What self respecting redneck would support a bunch of sweater wearing, latté sipping, book reading, free thinkers like them Seattle folks, whoever their namby pamby team is. Hey Bubba, you really gonna wear that Seahogs jersey to the NASCAR club? snicker. I think those better known folks in this group who took sides in the contest pretty well prove my point. bb The Super Bowl has to sustain football fever for about 6 months until the preseason games get underway. Suppose you were writing the script for the event. You have two choices: 1) One of the richest billionaires in the world accepts the Vince Lombardi trophy on behalf of a city that 90% of the folks in the US have never visited and many may only be half certain where it is located. The physical location of the nearest competing team is about 700 miles away in the SF Bay area and there is no pro football at all in three surrounding states and the adjoining Canadian province. There are no blood feud rivalries with any teams that might get some help selling out their stadiums when Seattle comes to town (You may as well just send the trophy up on the Space Shuttle and bring it back in a year for all the strategic good it would do the NFL.) 2) A little old guy whose family has owned the Steelers since the invention of the pig, let alone the practice of making footballs from pigskin, accepts the trophy and in the twilight years of his service to the sport lays claim to being only the third team to win five Super Bowl championships. Nobody likes billionaires, everybody likes a little ol' grandpa figure. Pittsburgh is within a few hours drive of any number of other football cities, and while Seattle has so many civic assets and advantages that an NFL team is just frosting on the cake, what the heck would you do in Pittsburgh on a winter Sunday except root for the local football team? A Steeler's win made much better television. After watching the refs subtract a touchdown from Seattle and add one for the Steelers yesterday, (and would have declared a phony "fumble" if Holmgren didn't demand a relook at compelling video evidence to the contrary) it occured to me why so many guys in the WWF are used up players from the NFL. The Steelers definitely won- but next year, I do think it would be helpful if the referees were prohibited from betting on the game. :-) |
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JIMinFL wrote: Chuck! I think you are on to something. There must have been a conspiracy. The Seattle Seabirds must have gone to the mat to help the Steelers win. I wonder how much the payoff was. This morning's press is not kind to the referees, and certainly not just from Seattle. Michael Wilbon, Washington Post, wrote: Ben Roethlisberger's third-down dive into the end zone simply was not a touchdown. Because less than two minutes remained, the call was reviewed in the booth. And everybody in the stadium plus everybody at home culd see, clear and conclusively, that Big Ben didn't get the ball across the goal line. It wasn't a touchdown, plain and simple. Yet the call stood and the Steelers had a touchdown. Another penalty, assessed to the Seahawks early in the fourth quarter, which negated a gain to the 1, also never happened. A penalty against Hasselbeck for blocking below the waist when, in fact, he was trying to tackly the interceptor, was also erroneous. It would be irresponsible to say the officials were intentionally cheating Seattle, but the bad calls killed the Seahawks. ** Jason Whitlock, Kansas City Star, wrote: The inevitable finally happened. A group of middle-aged executives trying to keep pace with a group of highly trained 20-something athletes destroyed America's sports holiday. Pittsburgh's one-for-the-thumb Super Bowl will be remembered as the game when physically overmateched referees and heads-buried NFL executives flipped non-Steelers fans an XL middle finger. ** Down your way, Mike Bianchi of the Orlando Sentinel wrote: Any other conclusion and it would have been like "It's a Wonderful Life" ending with Beorge Bailey actually jumping off the bridge and drowning. We wanted the Pittsburgh Steelers holding up that trophy. We needed the Pittsburgh Steelers holding up that trophy. If the Seattle Seahawks had won, it would have been the stuff of dull documentaries. The Steelers winning was the stuff of fantastic fairytales. ** And then finally from Bob Simisk at the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette (who naturally needs to be pretty careful with his choice of words): This one wasn't the splendid domination the Steelers had shown in three previous playoff games. This one, truth be known, was a bit ugly.......By winning in such a fashion, the Steelers proved just how good they are. It's takes a special team to win when it doesn't have its "A" game. *** Bob Simisk may be on to something. When the Steelers brought their "B" game and a crew of less than objective referees, it was more than Seattle could overcome with a "B" game of its own. Had Seattle played up to its recent standards, even the lousy calls would not have prevented the Seahawks from rolling over the "B" game of the Steelers. |
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On Mon, 06 Feb 2006 09:54:06 -0800, chuckgould.chuck wrote:
Michael Wilbon, Washington Post, wrote: Ben Roethlisberger's third-down dive into the end zone simply was not a touchdown. Because less than two minutes remained, the call was reviewed in the booth. And everybody in the stadium plus everybody at home culd see, clear and conclusively, that Big Ben didn't get the ball across the goal line. It wasn't a touchdown, plain and simple. Yet the call stood and the Steelers had a touchdown. Uh, someone should tell this guy, it isn't getting "the ball across the goal line". It's breaking "the plane" of the goal line. The difference is close to two feet (the width of the painted line, plus the length of the ball). FWIW, it looked like a touchdown to me. |
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