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JimH February 4th 06 11:19 PM

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We am getting digital cable installed tomorrow by Comcast. Digital
receivers w/remotes will be installed on 2 sets, neither of which are HD.
We have a total of 8 TV's in the house, and I am hoping the picture quality
improves on the other 6 sets also.

Is there anything special I should make sure they take care of during the
installation?

TIA ;-)



JimH February 4th 06 11:23 PM

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" JimH" jimh_osudad@yahooDOT comREMOVETHIS wrote in message
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We are getting digital cable installed tomorrow by Comcast. Digital
receivers w/remotes will be installed on 2 sets, neither of which are HD.
We have a total of 8 TV's in the house, and I am hoping the picture
quality improves on the other 6 sets also.

Is there anything special I should make sure they take care of during the
installation?

TIA ;-)


Dammit....."We am..."???????? I originally typed "I am..." but changed it
to "We.."

Doh!

Edit to correct the mistake.



JohnH February 4th 06 11:33 PM

Don White and RCE
 
On Sat, 4 Feb 2006 18:23:03 -0500, " JimH" jimh_osudad@yahooDOT
comREMOVETHIS wrote:


" JimH" jimh_osudad@yahooDOT comREMOVETHIS wrote in message
...
We are getting digital cable installed tomorrow by Comcast. Digital
receivers w/remotes will be installed on 2 sets, neither of which are HD.
We have a total of 8 TV's in the house, and I am hoping the picture
quality improves on the other 6 sets also.

Is there anything special I should make sure they take care of during the
installation?

TIA ;-)


Dammit....."We am..."???????? I originally typed "I am..." but changed it
to "We.."

Doh!

Edit to correct the mistake.


I didn't notice much difference when I went to the digital boxes. The big
difference comes with the HDTV.
--
'Til next time,

John H

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***** Have a Spectacular Day! *****
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RCE February 5th 06 12:18 AM

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" JimH" jimh_osudad@yahooDOT comREMOVETHIS wrote in message
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We am getting digital cable installed tomorrow by Comcast. Digital
receivers w/remotes will be installed on 2 sets, neither of which are HD.
We have a total of 8 TV's in the house, and I am hoping the picture
quality improves on the other 6 sets also.

Is there anything special I should make sure they take care of during the
installation?

TIA ;-)


Your new digital boxes will be dedicated to one TV each. Viewing these TV's
will gain features such as the interactive program guide, pay for view and,
depending on what service you have, view on demand features. If either or
both of the TV's connected to the new boxes are digital or "ED", you should
see a picture quality improvement, *if* you connect it correctly to take
advantage of it. (see below)

Your other 6 TV's will not be any different than they are now.

If you have been experiencing weak or snowy pictures with your current
analog only service, you should see an improvement on the two TV's that are
connected to the digital box.

Other than checking for signal strength on the existing cable lines, there's
not much to do.

Connecting the TV to the Cable boxes:

If your TV has a component video input (three RCA jacks, blue, green and
red) and two audio inputs (RCA jacks, white and red) and the digital box
from Comcast has these outputs - use them. Don't connect the TV to the box
using the VHF "to TV" F-type connector. Then:

On your TV select the source to which you made these connections - (video
one, video two, or whatever). This is now how you will leave the TV and
your channel selection, etc will be done with the new cable box remote
control.

The mistake many people make is using the VHF output from the cable box.
All this does is sends the undecoded analog signal into your TV's
non-digital tuner (you have to leave it on Chan 3) and defeats the purpose
of getting digital service. If your TV does not have provisions for an
external component input, then you will have to be satisfied with analog
until you upgrade the TV

Make sense?

RCE




JimH February 5th 06 12:25 AM

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"RCE" wrote in message
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" JimH" jimh_osudad@yahooDOT comREMOVETHIS wrote in message
...
We am getting digital cable installed tomorrow by Comcast. Digital
receivers w/remotes will be installed on 2 sets, neither of which are HD.
We have a total of 8 TV's in the house, and I am hoping the picture
quality improves on the other 6 sets also.

Is there anything special I should make sure they take care of during the
installation?

TIA ;-)


Your new digital boxes will be dedicated to one TV each. Viewing these
TV's will gain features such as the interactive program guide, pay for
view and, depending on what service you have, view on demand features. If
either or both of the TV's connected to the new boxes are digital or "ED",
you should see a picture quality improvement, *if* you connect it
correctly to take advantage of it. (see below)

Your other 6 TV's will not be any different than they are now.

If you have been experiencing weak or snowy pictures with your current
analog only service, you should see an improvement on the two TV's that
are connected to the digital box.

Other than checking for signal strength on the existing cable lines,
there's not much to do.

Connecting the TV to the Cable boxes:

If your TV has a component video input (three RCA jacks, blue, green and
red) and two audio inputs (RCA jacks, white and red) and the digital box
from Comcast has these outputs - use them. Don't connect the TV to the
box using the VHF "to TV" F-type connector. Then:

On your TV select the source to which you made these connections - (video
one, video two, or whatever). This is now how you will leave the TV and
your channel selection, etc will be done with the new cable box remote
control.

The mistake many people make is using the VHF output from the cable box.
All this does is sends the undecoded analog signal into your TV's
non-digital tuner (you have to leave it on Chan 3) and defeats the purpose
of getting digital service. If your TV does not have provisions for an
external component input, then you will have to be satisfied with analog
until you upgrade the TV

Make sense?

RCE




Sure does. Thanks.



Don White February 5th 06 12:59 AM

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JimH wrote:
We am getting digital cable installed tomorrow by Comcast. Digital
receivers w/remotes will be installed on 2 sets, neither of which are HD.
We have a total of 8 TV's in the house, and I am hoping the picture quality
improves on the other 6 sets also.

Is there anything special I should make sure they take care of during the
installation?

TIA ;-)



Years ago I ran a lot of the original coaxel cable and splitters myself
using Radio Shack connecters to the 'extra tvs.
I asked the installer to upgrade the connectors to what they are using.
I wouldn't count on the analog tv's getting better... just the ones
connected to the digital cable box.


JimH February 5th 06 01:09 AM

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"Don White" wrote in message
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JimH wrote:
We am getting digital cable installed tomorrow by Comcast. Digital
receivers w/remotes will be installed on 2 sets, neither of which are HD.
We have a total of 8 TV's in the house, and I am hoping the picture
quality improves on the other 6 sets also.

Is there anything special I should make sure they take care of during the
installation?

TIA ;-)


Years ago I ran a lot of the original coaxel cable and splitters myself
using Radio Shack connecters to the 'extra tvs.
I asked the installer to upgrade the connectors to what they are using.
I wouldn't count on the analog tv's getting better... just the ones
connected to the digital cable box.


So it is all in the digital receiver they lease to you?

Is it legal to buy these things and avoid the rental charge?



RCE February 5th 06 01:26 AM

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" JimH" jimh_osudad@yahooDOT comREMOVETHIS wrote in message
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So it is all in the digital receiver they lease to you?


Yes.



Is it legal to buy these things and avoid the rental charge?


No.

RCE



JimH February 5th 06 01:34 AM

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"RCE" wrote in message
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" JimH" jimh_osudad@yahooDOT comREMOVETHIS wrote in message
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So it is all in the digital receiver they lease to you?


Yes.



Is it legal to buy these things and avoid the rental charge?


No.

RCE


Check that last question............can one purchase and install a Comcast
digital receiver on the other TV's and receive digital quality pictures on
the.......thus avoiding extra receiver rental charges?

http://www.moviesoundscentral.com/so...ff/bueller.wav




RCE February 5th 06 01:41 AM

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" JimH" jimh_osudad@yahooDOT comREMOVETHIS wrote in message
...

"RCE" wrote in message
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" JimH" jimh_osudad@yahooDOT comREMOVETHIS wrote in message
...



So it is all in the digital receiver they lease to you?


Yes.



Is it legal to buy these things and avoid the rental charge?


No.

RCE


Check that last question............can one purchase and install a Comcast
digital receiver on the other TV's and receive digital quality pictures
on the.......thus avoiding extra receiver rental charges?


To my knowledge, no. Legally you must rent additional boxes for each TV. I
think they are around 4 or 5 bucks a month. I know with Sat TV you can buy
your own receiver, but you still have to pay for the additional service.
Someone may correct me if I am wrong.

RCE



Don White February 5th 06 05:00 AM

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JimH wrote:
"Don White" wrote in message
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JimH wrote:

We am getting digital cable installed tomorrow by Comcast. Digital
receivers w/remotes will be installed on 2 sets, neither of which are HD.
We have a total of 8 TV's in the house, and I am hoping the picture
quality improves on the other 6 sets also.

Is there anything special I should make sure they take care of during the
installation?

TIA ;-)


Years ago I ran a lot of the original coaxel cable and splitters myself
using Radio Shack connecters to the 'extra tvs.
I asked the installer to upgrade the connectors to what they are using.
I wouldn't count on the analog tv's getting better... just the ones
connected to the digital cable box.



So it is all in the digital receiver they lease to you?

Is it legal to buy these things and avoid the rental charge?


No rental charge for the basic unit here. You just pay for the digital
service.
Different with my HDTV service. My choice was $9.95/mo for the plain
unit or $14.95/mo for the one that records on a hardrive.

Don White February 5th 06 05:06 AM

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JimH wrote:
"RCE" wrote in message
...

" JimH" jimh_osudad@yahooDOT comREMOVETHIS wrote in message
...

So it is all in the digital receiver they lease to you?


Yes.



Is it legal to buy these things and avoid the rental charge?


No.

RCE



Check that last question............can one purchase and install a Comcast
digital receiver on the other TV's and receive digital quality pictures on
the.......thus avoiding extra receiver rental charges?

http://www.moviesoundscentral.com/so...ff/bueller.wav



That might be possible. I took my Motorola digital cable box into mom's
room and hooked it up for a short test. Her crappy Sears 27" TV improved
slightly and she got all the benefits of digital service.

Don White February 5th 06 05:07 AM

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RCE wrote:
" JimH" jimh_osudad@yahooDOT comREMOVETHIS wrote in message
...

"RCE" wrote in message
...

" JimH" jimh_osudad@yahooDOT comREMOVETHIS wrote in message
...

So it is all in the digital receiver they lease to you?

Yes.



Is it legal to buy these things and avoid the rental charge?


No.

RCE


Check that last question............can one purchase and install a Comcast
digital receiver on the other TV's and receive digital quality pictures
on the.......thus avoiding extra receiver rental charges?



To my knowledge, no. Legally you must rent additional boxes for each TV. I
think they are around 4 or 5 bucks a month. I know with Sat TV you can buy
your own receiver, but you still have to pay for the additional service.
Someone may correct me if I am wrong.

RCE


You're right about the $ 5.00 per month. We're keeping the motorola
digital box to install on mom's tv when we upgrade to HDTV on Wednesday.
We will keep paying the $5.00 per month digital fee plus the HD fees and
cable box rental for our new Sony. %^&^% cable is getting expensive.

JimH February 5th 06 08:56 PM

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"Don White" wrote in message
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JimH wrote:
We am getting digital cable installed tomorrow by Comcast. Digital
receivers w/remotes will be installed on 2 sets, neither of which are HD.
We have a total of 8 TV's in the house, and I am hoping the picture
quality improves on the other 6 sets also.

Is there anything special I should make sure they take care of during the
installation?

TIA ;-)


Years ago I ran a lot of the original coaxel cable and splitters myself
using Radio Shack connecters to the 'extra tvs.
I asked the installer to upgrade the connectors to what they are using.
I wouldn't count on the analog tv's getting better... just the ones
connected to the digital cable box.


We had the service installed this afternoon on 2 TV's (family room and our
bedroom) and the picture quality is indeed much better.

Per your suggestion I also had the tech change all the splitters I had and
change the connectors on the coax. The result is improved picture quality
in all rooms.

We are on a basic plan with some 200 channels including 7 Encore movie
channels that play movies recently running in the theaters. Although my
wife was reluctant on getting this she became pretty happy once she saw the
movies she could watch with this basic package.

Thanks to you and Richard for the feedback and suggestions. ;-)



JimH February 5th 06 09:08 PM

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"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
JimH wrote:
"Don White" wrote in message
...
JimH wrote:
We am getting digital cable installed tomorrow by Comcast. Digital
receivers w/remotes will be installed on 2 sets, neither of which are
HD. We have a total of 8 TV's in the house, and I am hoping the picture
quality improves on the other 6 sets also.

Is there anything special I should make sure they take care of during
the installation?

TIA ;-)
Years ago I ran a lot of the original coaxel cable and splitters myself
using Radio Shack connecters to the 'extra tvs.
I asked the installer to upgrade the connectors to what they are using.
I wouldn't count on the analog tv's getting better... just the ones
connected to the digital cable box.


We had the service installed this afternoon on 2 TV's (family room and
our bedroom) and the picture quality is indeed much better.

Per your suggestion I also had the tech change all the splitters I had
and change the connectors on the coax. The result is improved picture
quality in all rooms.

We are on a basic plan with some 200 channels including 7 Encore movie
channels that play movies recently running in the theaters. Although my
wife was reluctant on getting this she became pretty happy once she saw
the movies she could watch with this basic package.

Thanks to you and Richard for the feedback and suggestions. ;-)



200 channels? 200 TV channels? On Basic? That's a hell of a lot more than
we get on SuperRipoff, or whatever we have. Are you counting "music"
channels?


OK, you made me count the number of channels........it is actually 164, not
including the music channels.



Don White February 5th 06 09:49 PM

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JimH wrote:
"Don White" wrote in message
...

JimH wrote:

We am getting digital cable installed tomorrow by Comcast. Digital
receivers w/remotes will be installed on 2 sets, neither of which are HD.
We have a total of 8 TV's in the house, and I am hoping the picture
quality improves on the other 6 sets also.

Is there anything special I should make sure they take care of during the
installation?

TIA ;-)


Years ago I ran a lot of the original coaxel cable and splitters myself
using Radio Shack connecters to the 'extra tvs.
I asked the installer to upgrade the connectors to what they are using.
I wouldn't count on the analog tv's getting better... just the ones
connected to the digital cable box.



We had the service installed this afternoon on 2 TV's (family room and our
bedroom) and the picture quality is indeed much better.

Per your suggestion I also had the tech change all the splitters I had and
change the connectors on the coax. The result is improved picture quality
in all rooms.

We are on a basic plan with some 200 channels including 7 Encore movie
channels that play movies recently running in the theaters. Although my
wife was reluctant on getting this she became pretty happy once she saw the
movies she could watch with this basic package.

Thanks to you and Richard for the feedback and suggestions. ;-)


Don't you love it when something works out as advertized?
I bet in a year you'll be chaffing at the bit for HDTV on your 'main' set.
BTW.. spend a little time getting friendly with the interactive info
schedules. We use it all the time to set reminders for favourite
upcoming programs.

JimH February 5th 06 10:13 PM

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"Don White" wrote in message
...
JimH wrote:
"Don White" wrote in message
...

JimH wrote:

We am getting digital cable installed tomorrow by Comcast. Digital
receivers w/remotes will be installed on 2 sets, neither of which are
HD. We have a total of 8 TV's in the house, and I am hoping the picture
quality improves on the other 6 sets also.

Is there anything special I should make sure they take care of during
the installation?

TIA ;-)

Years ago I ran a lot of the original coaxel cable and splitters myself
using Radio Shack connecters to the 'extra tvs.
I asked the installer to upgrade the connectors to what they are using.
I wouldn't count on the analog tv's getting better... just the ones
connected to the digital cable box.



We had the service installed this afternoon on 2 TV's (family room and
our bedroom) and the picture quality is indeed much better.

Per your suggestion I also had the tech change all the splitters I had
and change the connectors on the coax. The result is improved picture
quality in all rooms.

We are on a basic plan with some 200 channels including 7 Encore movie
channels that play movies recently running in the theaters. Although my
wife was reluctant on getting this she became pretty happy once she saw
the movies she could watch with this basic package.

Thanks to you and Richard for the feedback and suggestions. ;-)

Don't you love it when something works out as advertized?
I bet in a year you'll be chaffing at the bit for HDTV on your 'main' set.
BTW.. spend a little time getting friendly with the interactive info
schedules. We use it all the time to set reminders for favourite upcoming
programs.


The tech showed us that feature and I am sure my wife will be using it. She
really loves this service.

Regarding the purchase of an HDTV set, I already had a plan:

Objective = Purchase a wide screen HDTV. The objective includes 5 steps.

Step 1 = Have digital service installed.
Status = Accomplished

Step 2 = Get wife excited about the new digital service.
Status = Accomplished

Step 3 = Explain to wife how realistic HDTV picture quality is vs current
15 year old analog CRT set.
Status = In progress

Step 4 = Get wife involved in selection of which HDTV we should purchase.
Status = Open.

Step 5 = Have wife go with me when purchasing our new wide screen HDTV.
Status = Open.

Difficulties to be overcome = Why replacing our family room TV is a higher
priority than replacing the furniture in the room.
Strategy = Get my friends and male family members involved.

Target for completion of Objective = March, 2007.

Yes, I have thought this out. ;-)







RCE February 5th 06 10:59 PM

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"Harry Krause" wrote in message
. ..
JimH wrote:
"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
JimH wrote:
"Don White" wrote in message
...
JimH wrote:
We am getting digital cable installed tomorrow by Comcast. Digital
receivers w/remotes will be installed on 2 sets, neither of which are
HD. We have a total of 8 TV's in the house, and I am hoping the
picture quality improves on the other 6 sets also.

Is there anything special I should make sure they take care of during
the installation?

TIA ;-)
Years ago I ran a lot of the original coaxel cable and splitters
myself using Radio Shack connecters to the 'extra tvs.
I asked the installer to upgrade the connectors to what they are
using.
I wouldn't count on the analog tv's getting better... just the ones
connected to the digital cable box.

We had the service installed this afternoon on 2 TV's (family room and
our bedroom) and the picture quality is indeed much better.

Per your suggestion I also had the tech change all the splitters I had
and change the connectors on the coax. The result is improved picture
quality in all rooms.

We are on a basic plan with some 200 channels including 7 Encore movie
channels that play movies recently running in the theaters. Although
my wife was reluctant on getting this she became pretty happy once she
saw the movies she could watch with this basic package.

Thanks to you and Richard for the feedback and suggestions. ;-)

200 channels? 200 TV channels? On Basic? That's a hell of a lot more
than we get on SuperRipoff, or whatever we have. Are you counting
"music" channels?


OK, you made me count the number of channels........it is actually 164,
not including the music channels.


That's still more than we get with Comcast under our "deluxe" plan.


Just wait until he gets his first bill.

RCE



RCE February 5th 06 11:02 PM

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" JimH" jimh_osudad@yahooDOT comREMOVETHIS wrote in message
...

"Don White" wrote in message
...
JimH wrote:
"Don White" wrote in message
...

JimH wrote:

We am getting digital cable installed tomorrow by Comcast. Digital
receivers w/remotes will be installed on 2 sets, neither of which are
HD. We have a total of 8 TV's in the house, and I am hoping the picture
quality improves on the other 6 sets also.

Is there anything special I should make sure they take care of during
the installation?

TIA ;-)

Years ago I ran a lot of the original coaxel cable and splitters myself
using Radio Shack connecters to the 'extra tvs.
I asked the installer to upgrade the connectors to what they are using.
I wouldn't count on the analog tv's getting better... just the ones
connected to the digital cable box.



We had the service installed this afternoon on 2 TV's (family room and
our bedroom) and the picture quality is indeed much better.

Per your suggestion I also had the tech change all the splitters I had
and change the connectors on the coax. The result is improved picture
quality in all rooms.

We are on a basic plan with some 200 channels including 7 Encore movie
channels that play movies recently running in the theaters. Although
my wife was reluctant on getting this she became pretty happy once she
saw the movies she could watch with this basic package.

Thanks to you and Richard for the feedback and suggestions. ;-)

Don't you love it when something works out as advertized?
I bet in a year you'll be chaffing at the bit for HDTV on your 'main'
set.
BTW.. spend a little time getting friendly with the interactive info
schedules. We use it all the time to set reminders for favourite
upcoming programs.


The tech showed us that feature and I am sure my wife will be using it.
She really loves this service.

Regarding the purchase of an HDTV set, I already had a plan:

Objective = Purchase a wide screen HDTV. The objective includes 5 steps.

Step 1 = Have digital service installed.
Status = Accomplished

Step 2 = Get wife excited about the new digital service.
Status = Accomplished

Step 3 = Explain to wife how realistic HDTV picture quality is vs current
15 year old analog CRT set.
Status = In progress

Step 4 = Get wife involved in selection of which HDTV we should purchase.
Status = Open.

Step 5 = Have wife go with me when purchasing our new wide screen HDTV.
Status = Open.

Difficulties to be overcome = Why replacing our family room TV is a higher
priority than replacing the furniture in the room.
Strategy = Get my friends and male family members involved.

Target for completion of Objective = March, 2007.

Yes, I have thought this out. ;-)


Just don't forget to exchange the digital box for a HD box when the time
comes.
My brother sat for a month thinking he was watching HD when he was not.

RCE



JimH February 5th 06 11:14 PM

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"RCE" wrote in message
...

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
. ..
JimH wrote:
"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
JimH wrote:
"Don White" wrote in message
...
JimH wrote:
We am getting digital cable installed tomorrow by Comcast. Digital
receivers w/remotes will be installed on 2 sets, neither of which
are HD. We have a total of 8 TV's in the house, and I am hoping the
picture quality improves on the other 6 sets also.

Is there anything special I should make sure they take care of
during the installation?

TIA ;-)
Years ago I ran a lot of the original coaxel cable and splitters
myself using Radio Shack connecters to the 'extra tvs.
I asked the installer to upgrade the connectors to what they are
using.
I wouldn't count on the analog tv's getting better... just the ones
connected to the digital cable box.

We had the service installed this afternoon on 2 TV's (family room and
our bedroom) and the picture quality is indeed much better.

Per your suggestion I also had the tech change all the splitters I had
and change the connectors on the coax. The result is improved picture
quality in all rooms.

We are on a basic plan with some 200 channels including 7 Encore movie
channels that play movies recently running in the theaters. Although
my wife was reluctant on getting this she became pretty happy once she
saw the movies she could watch with this basic package.

Thanks to you and Richard for the feedback and suggestions. ;-)

200 channels? 200 TV channels? On Basic? That's a hell of a lot more
than we get on SuperRipoff, or whatever we have. Are you counting
"music" channels?

OK, you made me count the number of channels........it is actually 164,
not including the music channels.


That's still more than we get with Comcast under our "deluxe" plan.


Just wait until he gets his first bill.

RCE



It will be a little over $13/month more for the first 6 months, then about
$19/month after that. Not too bad.




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